User talk:Eddie891

"Stranger! if you, passing, meet me, and desire to speak to me, why should you not speak to me? And why should I not speak to you?" - Walt Whitman

Centering

Please don't use <center>...</center>. This hasn't been valid HTML since the 1990s. Most cases of centering (or centring, if you prefer) can be done with {{center}} AKA {{centre}}, including the centered note at the bottom of your "Good article drive notice" delivered by bot recently, and probably also all the centering instances on this talk page and your user page. Using "dead" markup impedes our migration to HTML 5. For more information on that, and to get involved, see WP:LINT and WP:HTML5 (the latter of which also has advice on more complicated centering tasks, in a section about that).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

OK, SMcCandlish, let's try this again: 1) Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I wasn't aware. 2) I've read through the pages you link and I get that it shouldn't be used, will make a mental note to avoid it. 3) I don't actually understand why it's 'wrong': It works, so why can't it be used? 4) I also don't get why we should care about a migration to HTML 5 and have no interest in getting involved, but thanks for the offer, I guess. Cheers and best wishes, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:32, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

It "works" in the sense that it visually forces content to be centered, in browsers that still elect to support deprecated elements, but this cannot be guaranteed, especially for WP:REUSE purposes; a strict parser will either choke on it or ignore it, and either way it will not have the desired effect. And it doesn't "work", in the sense that pages with <center>...</center> in them fail to validate as HTML, which can have undesirable secondary effects, like forcing various browsers into "quirks mode", in which they behave like old browsers instead of modern ones. This isn't really the place for a big spiel about using standards-compliant code. WP:HTML5 gets into it a little, and it relates to Semantic HTML, Semantic Web, Web 2.0, code portability and manipulability with XML tools, etc. Our own internal tools can also become simpler if the code is standardized.

By way of a more human analogy, most people (native speakers, anyway) will know what you mean if you say "thou" or "speaketh", but this obsolete English, and there generally isn't a reason to do it. People who are using the CSS and JS we've set up for detecting and fixing bad markup will see instances of <center>...</center> stick out like a sore thumb (as red, well pink, blocks). Kind of like how someone walking around talking Elizabethan all the time will grate on people. Heh.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  13:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

PS: I saw the original version of your response; to address the embedded question in it, the issue is that <center>...</center> isn't valid HTML. It's been deprecated for 20-odd years, in favor of using CSS for centering. In this respect it's like <font>...</font> and several other old obsolete HTML elements that only served a presentational not semantic purpose. Most browsers are written to be able to still understand the old markup, but that won't be true of more specialized parsers, and may not be true of general-use browsers forever. Unfortunately, the CSS for doing centering is a butt-pain, so it's much, much easier to do it with {{center}} (which is shorter than <center>...</center> anyway).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  13:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

SMcCandlish, Thanks so much for the response! It actually makes sense to me now— the analogy was very helpful. I'll take care to use {{center}} when centering things. Cheers, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Mother to Son

On 2 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mother to Son, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Langston Hughes's poems "Mother to Son", "Harlem", and "The Negro Speaks of Rivers" have been described as "anthems of black America"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mother to Son. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mother to Son), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Harlem (poem)

On 2 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Harlem (poem), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Langston Hughes's poems "Mother to Son", "Harlem", and "The Negro Speaks of Rivers" have been described as "anthems of black America"? You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Harlem (poem)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Negro Speaks of Rivers

On 2 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Negro Speaks of Rivers, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Langston Hughes's poems "Mother to Son", "Harlem", and "The Negro Speaks of Rivers" have been described as "anthems of black America"? You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Negro Speaks of Rivers), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Help Me

Eddie891 Hello Admin. I was working on a page called District FM which you recently deleted. Please can you help me move the deleted page to draft please so I can work on it better? Thank You, sirInnocentuzoma (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, before restoring to draftspace, I'd like to see the sources you feel are reliable, provide in-depth and independent coverage of the article. The consensus at the deletion discussion was pretty clearly to delete and not draftify, and No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. Bst, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln

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Your GA nomination of Hush'd Be the Camps To-Day

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Colorized Whitman

Saw this image of colorized Whitman and thought of your admirable work on his articles! Apologies on never getting to review "O Captain! My Captain!", I'll be sure to keep an eye out for any future Whitman work of yours at FAC. Aza24 (talk) 00:37, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Great to hear from you, Aza24! Hope you and yours are well. It is remarkable what they can do with technology these days — thanks for linking this over here, I really appreciate that you thought of me. I've got some more Whitman in the works, he's proved really rewarding to work on. Recently created a Good topic nomination for the Whitman and Lincoln topic and I might open a peer review for the main Whitman and Lincoln article in a month or so. Thanks for all the work you do and best wishes-- Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Help Inquiry

Hello! I wanted to come to you and see if you had insight on helping me add and create this article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nouveau_Shamanic Draft:Nouveau Shamanic / if it’s a valuable contribution to Wikipedia in your eyes. To me it adds significant information. Let me know your thoughts! Elvisisalive95 (talk) 23:26, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Elvisisalive95, seems like an interesting topic, but out of my area of interest/expertise, unfortunately. If you aren't having luck creating a stand-alone article, consider whether you can add anything to Nicolas Cage#Acting style. Sorry I can't be of more help. Bst, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you I truly appreciate your response and tips on what to do if I don’t have luck getting it approved as a stand alone! I hope you have a great rest of your week! Elvisisalive95 (talk) 23:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Mopping

Hi, I see on your user page that you've been an admin for just 6 months and are still learning the ropes. I've been an admin for 15 years and I often feel the same way :-) Don't sweat it, you'll figure it out. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Cheers, RoySmith, good to hear from you! Thanks for the message, It's reassuring to hear I'm not alone-- I learn something new every day, just about! I suspect I'll be learning the ropes for years to come, possibly indefinitely. Thanks for all you do and best wishes, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mildred Mottahedeh

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