Talk:Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Introduction

This section contained information duplicated in the early life section, so it was removed for redundancy. --Jbossbarr (talk) 22:40 5 April 2008 (UTC)

UCLA

I believe he made his varsity debut in Fall of 1966. Article says 1967. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.189.83.207 (talk) 02:59, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 07:13, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Coach Wooden

It seems misleading to say he had a strained relationship with coach Wooden. It compounds the problem by mentioning the incident when he was called a "nigger" without context. Reading the source shows that he liked his coach and, it seems, they had a good relationship.

If you read his book it is clear he has the utmost respect for Coach Wooden now. Wilt10013 (talk) 09:51, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@Wilt10013: I think you misread it. It was talking about his relationship with his high school coach, not Wooden.—Bagumba (talk) 10:19, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I tried to edit this to clarify it, but it was reverted. I would like to redo it to address the verbosity. I don't think a wholesale reversion was justified given the confusion the previous language was causing, as evidenced by the above comment, and also my own experience when I read the article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Trbdavies (talk • contribs) 08:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@Trbdavies: Regrding you most recent change, it seems redundant to not use a pronoun when it's in the high school section, it's talking about his high school career, and the only coach referenced up until that point was Donahue—his high school coach. It's unnecessarily repetive to keep repeating his proper name. As for the "n-word", I'm ambivalent, but WP:UNCENSORED is a site policy.—Bagumba (talk) 08:53, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@Bagumba: I would agree with you as a general matter. However, in this case, there is confusion introduced by the reference to Coach Wooden in the next sentence. When I read it, I mistakenly thought Coach Wooden had used the n-word. The anonymous comment at the top of this thread also indicates someone else experienced this confusion. Therefore, I think a little redundancy in the form of repeating Donahue's name is justified, to distinguish him from Coach Wooden. This is a serious matter, and readers will come away from the article with a false impression that Wooden uttered the racial epithet if it is not explicitly clarified.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Trbdavies (talk • contribs) 09:10, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@Trbdavies: Perhaps a better solution is to remove the book's name. Per the guideine WP:INTEXT: It is preferable not to clutter articles with information best left to the references. I don't think the timeline of when he said it or where he said it is particularly significant here.—Bagumba (talk) 10:12, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@Bagumba: Okay, I have removed the name of the book, but kept the reference to Donohue's name in the previous sentence, for clarity.Trbdavies (talk) 23:57, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2021

NBA Legend George Gervin has also called Kareem Abdul Jabbar the greatest of all time when he was on the B.S Report with Bill Simmons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KS29 (talk • contribs)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Run n Fly (talk) 20:43, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

"then called Lew"?

Is anyone reading the opening line here? "Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (born Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr.; April 16, 1947), then called 'Lew,' is an American former professional basketball player"? What the hell does "Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, then called 'Lew'" mean? 69.113.166.178 (talk) 04:39, 9 July 2021 (UTC)