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Re your comments: I am a subject matter expert in the field and can attest the notion of "Foundation Models" is real and increasingly impactful in AI.

The primary source is not peer reviewed because it is a position paper, not a journal article. Not every primary source is necessarily peer reviewed. Note too how the primary source authors include some of the most authoritative figures of the field: Andrew Ng, and others.

The second source points to the Stanford-based Institute that originated the concept of "Foundation Models", and who then organized the collective position paper publicly formalizing the notion: the primary source. So it is valid and unsurprising that the Institute's foundation precedes the position paper its members then coauthored. Put in another way: First came the Institute formed around the notion, -then- the came authoritative position paper formalizing it.

Consider reevaluating your decision, or assigning it to another editor for a second opinion. It is fairly discouraging to take the time to make a pro bono and genuinely valuable encyclopedic contribution to Wikipedia, only to be dismissed for unsound reasons. Thank you.

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Hello! I appreciate you editing my article. I just had some questions about the comments you made. In your comment, you mentioned "almost none of the content is actually supported by the references". However, I went through and confirmed that the citations are referenced in each spot they appear within the article. Do you have an example of where this is not successful so I know what to better fix? Additionally, I have worked to include other outside references. Because much of the detailed information comes from the college's website, that is why I include a handful of those. However, I have multiple notable mentions in various news outlets to showcase the topic's notability. I just wanted to follow up so I can better make edits. Thank you!

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Stuartyeates

Thank you for creating Katherine Singer Kovács.

User:Scope creep, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Hi, You need to split the two list out of this articles, into two seperate articles. The awards are notable, they have massive. If you can expand this article with biographical, it really neeeds. If you need any help please contact me.

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scope_creepTalk 12:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep: Alas I'm unable to make any of the excellent changes you suggest due to the fact that I'm currently topic banned from BLPs. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Stuartyeates: Thanks for getting back to me. I never knew that was a thing, to be honest. I guess I will need to do it. She seems to be major cultural figure. I'll leave an attribution so they know it was you that created the article. scope_creepTalk 20:44, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your work. No need for any explicit attribution, it's all in the edit history. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:46, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Are you learning new tricks? :-) Schwede66 05:30, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User:Schwede66 I'm trying to take a moment to develop. WP:TWA is completely abandonware to the extent that I couldn't get it to work. OTOH, I've done ~ 2000 non-BLP edits since my topic ban, but WP:AFC queues don't seem to be getting shorter... Stuartyeates (talk) 07:29, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. I wasn't aware of the state of TWA. Schwede66 08:32, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If may have been a brwoser issue. not sure. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Stuartyeates,

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Decline of the draft of QualCoder software

I would like to justify why the draft should be accepted.

Firstly, when assessing the article, it should be taken into account the nature of the subject. As we talk about CAQDAS software, it is rather natural that most of in-depth sources are related to the software websites, blogs, manuals, etc. So, they have not secondary character. In turn, most secondary, independent sources are the journal papers which applied the specific software. However, they are quite dispersed. In other words, most independent and secondary sources relatively shortly describe software and mainly apply them in research.

Secondly, acceptance of the QualCoder article is justified by the character and sources of the already accepted articles on Wikipedia. I done some work and analysed articles on the three of the most famous commercial CAQDAS: Maxqda, NVivo and Atlas.ti. Sources to the articles are as follow:

Maxqda:

Total number of references: 7 (1 in literature section, withour reference to specific fragment).

Number of NOT independent references (product website): 4

Notes: first paragraph without ANY reference

Number of in-depth independent references: 1

Number of short independent references: 2

NVivo:

Total number of references: 8

Number of NOT independent references (product website, articles of software developers): 4

Not-working links: 2

Notes: second paragraph without ANY reference

Number of in-depth independent references: 0 (!)

Number of short independent references: 2

Atlas.ti:

Total number of references: 17

Number of NOT independent references (product website, articles of software developers): 12

Not-working links: 1

Notes: first paragraph withour ANY reference, the whole second section without ANY reference

Number of in-depth independent references: 2

Number of short independent references: 1

References withour mentioning the subject: 1

QualCoder (this draft):

Total number of references: 21

Number of NOT independent references (software website): 2

Number of in-depth independent references: 2 (I added one recently)

Number of short independent references: 14

To sum up, comparing three already accepted articles of most famous, commercial CAQDAS, and the draft, it is worth to stress that:

- the draft has the smallest number of dependent references (2 vs. 4, 4 and 12)

- the draft has the higher number of independent short references (14 vs. 2, 2 and 1), including also at elast 7 peer-reviewed articles, sometimes with high impact factor.

- the draft has 2 independent in-depth references, while existing articles has 2, 1 or even not at all.

This relatively good support of indepednent sources results from the fact that, as I am a PhD student, I conducted systematic literature review on this software package, including all sources from Google Scholar, as well as general Google sources. The number of in-depth independent sources is 2, however, it is not low number, taking into account nature of the subject and existing Wikipedia aritcles. However, number of shorter sources is exeptionally high, as well as number of developer-related sources is reduced to the minimum, what cannot be said about existing Wikipedia articles in this field.

To sum up, the draft provide holistic and reliable overview of the subject by providing indpendent, in-depth, as well as shorter but very reliable and diversified sources. In this way, contrary to the three already accepted articles, it provides not only good overview of the software, but also in-depth insight into actual use of the software (empirical journal articles), recommended use of it (methodological journal articles), and educational use (libraries sites).

In fact, the draft not only meets the existing level of the Wikipedia articles in this field, is relatevely exemptionally and can serve as an example of good practices of articles grounded in diversified, reliable, and independent sources. AndrzejSN (talk) 20:04, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]


  • I assume that we're talking about Draft:QualCoder here. If not, ignore the rest of this.
    • WP:GNG says A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. This is the core of the issue.
    • Both of the articles you mention are currently tagged as having issues. They are not exemplars to use.
    • If you find articles in main space that appear to lack independent references, you're welcome to tag them as such.
    • The standard for inclusion in an academic literature review is not directly equaliavent to any wikipedia standard.
    • If you believe that I personally have made an error or hold a grudge of some type, Wikipedia:Teahouse is a place to go for newbie-friendly advice and to find editor who may take another look at things.

I believe that your best approach to getting the article accepted it to find new sources with independent in-depth coverage. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:11, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your detailed explanations. Actually, I do not discuss your review conclusion itself, but I see very problematic the fact that other articles on the similar subject were accepted despite being at the lower level than article that was declined. It seems quite arbitrary and generate gaps in Wikipedia coverage of specific field, in this case the CAQDAS software. But, I understand that you assess the articles individually, not in relation to others. So, I do not suggest that your decision is arbitrary, but the total effect visible at Wiki. Thank you for advices! AndrzejSN (talk) 22:57, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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19:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-29

22:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Bror Friberg for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bror Friberg is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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StartOkayStop (talk) 07:27, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification StartOkayStop. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:31, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Dougal McNeill for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dougal McNeill until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Gusfriend (talk) 11:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2022-30

19:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Talk about Draft:OnionShare

So is it alright? Is there need for improvement? I think the notability part is pretty good? Greatder (talk) 07:13, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would like it to be an article, so I improved it in couple of obvious ways. Am I convinced that it would survive AfD right now? No, which is why I didn't promote it to user space. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Greatder there are a couple of recent pieces on https://sempreupdate.com.br/, which look suitable but I don't speak Portuguese. More generally there's coverage in Google News that I'd add. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:13, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

CryptoSlate article

I appreciate the timeliness of the review of the Draft:CryptoSlate article. You stated:

  • Comment: I waded through a dozen sources and none of them were independent secondary sources, which is what we're meant to be basing out articles on. Throw out the primary sources and interview-based puff pieces and write based on secondary sources with in-depth coverage of the org. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have been talking with other Wikipedia reviewers and guidance is mixed across the community. I removed primary sources originally but then readded to include links to the editorial policy etc. following the discussion on CoinDesk talk page. I added the references to policy and advertising guidelines as it was noted that there has to be a question of trustworthiness for crypto news outlets. While I understand this sentiment, the sole purpose of CryptoSlate since 2017 has been to provide a respected news source that is verified and edited by an independent team with deep experience in traditional financial news.

There are several secondary sources in the CryptoSlate draft showcasing other notable companies citing CryptoSlate as a respected source. However, I understand the strict guidelines for notability at Wikipedia. CryptoSlate is extremely well known within the industry and I believe its important for it to be listed on Wikipedia. 0xCryptoDegen (talk) 09:56, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The "trustworthiness for crypto news outlets" can in no way be based on what they say about themselves. Someone else talking about their editorial policy maybe, but not themselves. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The Signpost: 1 August 2022

Submission declined on 1 August 2022 on "Draft:AliceVision"

Hello @Stuartyeates

Regarding your comments on our Draft:AliceVision :

Peer review articles by the creators of the software and software repositories are not secondary sources. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:19, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1- the main article "AliceVision Meshroom: An open-source 3D reconstruction pipeline" has been reviewed by the committee of the prestigious ACM Multimedia Systems Conference and has even received the "Best Open Dataset and Software Paper Award".

See the nomination award here : https://2021.acmmmsys.org and the award copy.


2- Most of the academic publications quoted in our draft have not been written by the creators of the software. They are trusted academic publications with their official DOI or ISBN. For instance, these are the 25 references 5 to 29 in our article.


I would like to hear about your explanations for why they are not trustable "secondary sources". BMaujean (talk) 17:54, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Answered at Draft:AliceVision. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:34, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2022-31

21:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Gravity Spy resubmitted

Hello, I have resubmitted a draft which you have declined Draft:Gravity Spy after resolving the issues that you pointed out. Please review the article once again to find any more issues or whether this article needs more secondary sources. Thank you. EnIRtpf09bchat with me 12:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on Draft:Gravity Spy. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:07, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NPP drive award

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This award is given to Stuartyeates for 40 reviews in the July NPP backlog reduction drive. Your contributions played a part in the 9895 reviews that took place during the drive. Thank you for your contributions. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 09:03, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This Month in Education: July 2022

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

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Tech News: 2022-33

21:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Request on 03:24:01, 16 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Commevsp


Re your comments: I am a subject matter expert in the field and can attest the notion of "Foundation Models" is real and increasingly impactful in AI.

The primary source is not peer reviewed because it is a position paper, not a journal article. Not every primary source is necessarily peer reviewed. Note too how the primary source authors include some of the most authoritative figures of the field: Andrew Ng, and others.

The second source points to the Stanford-based Institute that originated the concept of "Foundation Models", and who then organized the collective position paper publicly formalizing the notion: the primary source. So it is valid and unsurprising that the Institute's foundation precedes the position paper its members then coauthored. Put in another way: First came the Institute formed around the notion, -then- the came authoritative position paper formalizing it.

Consider reevaluating your decision, or assigning it to another editor for a second opinion. It is fairly discouraging to take the time to make a pro bono and genuinely valuable encyclopedic contribution to Wikipedia, only to be dismissed for unsound reasons. Thank you.

Commevsp (talk) 03:24, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]