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Question about the naming of a first part of a wikipedia article?

Hello what is the official name of the summary at the start of wikipedia articles? :) - Descria Air Calvary (talk) 04:03, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Lede or Lead. David notMD (talk) 04:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

C'est le "Lead". 115.96.216.203 (talk) 09:29, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

You'll find information at MOS:LEDE. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:21, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Why "lede"? "Lead" is fine, and matches normal English, but Wikipedia is the ONLY place I have ever seen "lede". My spellchecker doesn't believe it's a word. The first use of that word in the linked article is in a sentence that says " It is not a news-style lead or "lede" paragraph." HiLo48 (talk) 10:35, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

I've never seen it elsewhere either, but I assume it's to draw a distinction between the "lead" of the article and Lead the material or the concept of leadership. 331dot (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Correct "The introduction to a news article is called the 'lede' and is usually in the first paragraph as in an essay. The 'lede' is a deliberate misspelling of 'lead' to prevent confusion in the days when printing was done with lead type.". Theroadislong (talk) 10:53, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

WHERE is the introduction to a news article called the lede? (Yet again, my spellchecker wants me to correct that word's spelling!!) HiLo48 (talk) 19:50, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

@HiLo48 - wiktionary:lede#Etymology_2 would be a great place to start casualdejekyll 19:54, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Ah, so it's American! Didn't think it was real English. OK, moving on from my sarcasm, can American editors please recognise that is is NOT part of English in other parts of the world, and stop making absolute statements about its use as if it's a global phenomenon? HiLo48 (talk) 19:59, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

@HiLo48:, as a former professional editor who studied at the London College of Printing, I can assure you that "lede" is/was used in British publishing also. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 176.249.29.80 (talk) 06:23, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

@HiLo48: I didn't see anywhere where American editors made absolute statements about its use as if it's a global phenomenon - do you think you could point me to where this was? Perhaps a Diff? casualdejekyll 20:08, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

I think they were referring to the wiktionary entry you linked in which it states the term originated from the US. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:13, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

That's relatively clearly the exact opposite of that, though? casualdejekyll 20:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Not really. Based on their userpage they seem to have a strong dislike for Americanism. The word originated in the US and spread elsewhere. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:24, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

It's in the OED. Not sure what else you need to convince yourself it's an acceptable English word. The default windows spellcheckers don't accept it in US English either, btw (I just switched languages to check). -- asilvering (talk) 20:40, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

In newspapers, the lede is kinda like the hook to convince readers to keep on looking at your article. The summary is the nut graf, the second paragraph. KC-inator (talk) 18:18, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section/Archive 15 for an EXTENDED debate. Personally, I will use Lead from now on. David notMD (talk) 12:19, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

• When the first paragraph is set to music, it's referred to as the Lied. Elemimele (talk) 20:29, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Ba-dum, tish! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 176.249.29.80 (talk) 06:25, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

My mother made her career in journalism. I saw the word "lede," and my mother explained it as a bit of in-shop jargon, meant to make a clear distinction with "lead." My mother died in 1992--before there was Wikipedia, even before there was much of an Internet. Uporządnicki (talk) 17:30, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

WP : NPOV

Hi, I’m a bit strapped for time, also have zero experience as a Wikipedia editor so apologies and TIA if anyone is willing to help.

I’ve just come across a page which was has already been flagged for NPOV but hasn’t been touched since 2009. imv it would be worth updating this page to reflect academic criticisms as WP is making efforts to get pages up about women this seems a great page to update but I’m so newb it would be great to get in touch with an experienced editor focussed on psychology just to ask a few preliminary questions about the research involved eg. I cannot find any responses from her re: lit review through scholar.g She’s also done considerable work since 2009 in the same area of research but slightly tangential so it might be that I’m looking in the wrong place to find any response. best regards TIA EthicalAugur (talk) 09:03, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

EthicalAugur, which article is this? -- Hoary (talk) 09:24, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I was sure I posted the link, apologies, it’s WP:Sonja_Lyubomirsky

i don’t know if that’s how I’m supposed to link? EthicalAugur (talk) 15:14, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Sonja Lyubomirsky Sarrail (talk) 15:15, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Her book Layous & Lyubomirsky (2014). The how, why, what, when, and who of happiness.

and a lit rev. https://doi.org/10.1080/17439760.2019.1651888

which covers some of her research into gratitude and it’s relationship to happiness.

Can fill you in on details but basically I think that the page needs an update as this content in coming up in UG studies. EthicalAugur (talk) 15:22, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

EthicalAugur, I took a look at the article Sonja Lyubomirsky. I am not impressed. For example the lead tells us that she's the author of the bestseller The How of Happiness: A Scientific Approach to Getting the Life You Want, a book of strategies backed by scientific research that can be used to increase happiness. Well, booze, dope, exercise, "retail therapy" and more can be used with the aim of increasing happiness. This doesn't mean that they're efficacious. I suppose that what's meant by both Lyubomirsky and the cited source is that these "strategies" really are efficacious. And for all I know, they are. But what's the cited source? The institution of which Lyubomirsky is an employee. Not good! (It should be a disinterested source.) So feel free to improve the article. Start with minor and modest improvements (scrupulously referenced), and continue to rather more substantial improvements (also scrupulously referenced). Always click "Show preview" and check what you've done before clicking "Publish changes". You say that you think you may be "looking in the wrong place to find any response" relevant to Lyubomirsky's work. I'm not a psychologist and neither are most people looking at this talk page; a better place to ask would be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychology. -- Hoary (talk) 04:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Add a New Page

Im looking to create a Brand New Wiki Page. Not sure how to start. How would that process work? Koolbotkid91 (talk) 16:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Ello' Koolbotkid, you can go to the Article Wizard and start there. A word of thumb, must declare a conflict of interest when you write a Wikipedia article.

If I may ask, what do you plan to write about? A1139530 (talk) 16:33, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

@A1139530 That was a bit confusing, at least to me. The editor only needs to declare a COI if there is a COI, and that is determined by what the OP plans to write about. Your advice might have left the impression that an editor (or a new editor) always needs to declare that a COI exists. Maybe I was reading your message too strictly. David10244 (talk) 04:51, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I worded this very badly. I meant to write "If there is a COI, don't forget to declare it". Sorry @Koolbotkid91 for the confusion. A1139530 (talk) 19:07, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that makes more sense. Thanks. David10244 (talk) 11:15, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• Hello Koolbotkid91 and thanks for stopping by to ask this question. There's some good guidance for writing your first Wikipedia article at Help:Your first article. The most important thing to glean from that is step 1 is gathering all of your source material first before you begin to write and to cite your sources as you go. By far, the most common cause of deleted or rejected articles is a lack of sourcing, so start there and then get to writing. Good luck! --Jayron32 16:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

  Hiya Koolbotkid91! Writing a brand new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia. It's usually better to start with out tutorial so that you can get the hang of how the site works a bit. The number one reason I think articles fail is that the article fails to show how the subject meets our notability requirements. From my perspective, it is best to read through nor notability policies and find which subset of those requirements the article would fall under. Then, determine which notability statement(s) you will assert in that article, and then provide adequately independent and reliable sources that prove the assertion of notability. Good luck! UtherSRG (talk) 17:18, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

I Swore I Saw This Page

Hi, I'm a random person on the internet and swore I saw a page about children in the LGBT community. Can you give me the link or something? 130.41.216.131 (talk) 17:03, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello! Welcome to the Teahouse! Was the link to a Wikipedia article? - UtherSRG (talk) 17:11, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

There's an article on LGBT parenting. Maybe that was it? Larataguera (talk) 17:37, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

To answer these questions, I firstly don't know where it is. Secondly, it wasn't LGBT parenting. I remember it having a boy holding a transgender flag.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.41.216.139 (talk) 20:28, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello random person. Was that article on the wikipedia, or somewhere else on the internet? —usernamekiran (talk) 21:30, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

It was a Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.41.216.60 (talk) 21:57, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

This sounds like Transgender youth, @130.41.216.60 casualdejekyll 22:27, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

That's the page, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.234.187 (talk) 15:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Assistance

Myself Azhar Y. Tantary, a researcher by profession. I intend to publish a Wikipedia article for my book entitled "Wavelet Transforms: Kith and Kin" where the students and researchers can initiate useful discussions and any queries will be openly addressed. Could somebody assist me in this matter? Azhar92 (talk) 18:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Azhar92, welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a collection of articles on notable subjects, not a discussion venue or question/answer forum for those subjects; every conversation on Wikipedia should (in theory) be at least tangentially related to improving Wikipedia. If your book is notable per WP:NBOOK, it's possible to have an article on it, but you must declare your conflict of interest per WP:COI when making any related edits. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Azhar92 (talk) 05:49, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

COURTESY to Teahouse hosts: at Draft:Wavelet Transforms: Kith and Kin, Declined. Among many flaws, hyperlinks not allowed except in an Edternal links section; references must be embedded in text (see Help:Referencing for beginners); an article about a book requires references about the book (reviews, etc.), NOT the science; much less information about the authors. David notMD (talk) 21:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

@Azhar92 Thers are probably sites on the 'net where this can be done, but as mentioned, Wikipedia is not the place. Perhaps another host or lurker has a suggestion for where this can be accomplished. David10244 (talk) 04:58, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, David. Azhar92 (talk) 05:50, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Well, here's hoping that the Teahouse hosts will have some suggestions! David10244 (talk) 11:18, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Test

Was wondering if I can exist 205.56.181.196 (talk) 18:57, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP Address! Yes, you can exist. However, I do not believe this test is constructive to the teahouse. If you like, create a Wikipedia Account. A1139530 (talk) 19:00, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

This IP address has made hundreds of edits, dating back years, so yes, it exists. If you were the editor for any of those, I confirm that you exist, too. David notMD (talk) 21:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

If the IP is a bot or AI, it might exist, but not be sentient. Maybe it's asking for consciousness, but we can't help with that here. David10244 (talk) 05:00, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

This is genuinely the funniest thing I've seen today. But more to the point, what is the ip editor actually asking? Club On a Sub 20 (talk) 16:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Related to the IP possibly being AI, Wikipedia has Artificial intelligence, so why doesn't it have Natural intelligence? David notMD (talk) 16:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Great question @David notMD! In the spirit of Teahouse answers, "feel free to write the article yourself. Here are some links to get you started....." (just kidding) David10244 (talk) 11:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Saving a userspace draft

I'm working on a draft for an entry in my user space, and I'd like to save it since writing the entry is a multi-day process. The problem is that I don't see a "save" button (or anything else) in my user space, and I haven't been able to find the answer online. I wrote my previous article using my sandbox, so this didn't come up. I've just been leaving my window open, but this is making me nervous since I don't know how often or if Wikipedia autosaves.

Thanks! Dactyl123 (talk) 20:20, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Dactyl123, publish means save to this page. Everything is published even in user space since you agree to the usual terms for all writing and everything including user pages is discoverable by others. So, press publish, don't stress and keep on editing. Slywriter (talk) 20:28, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia settled on "Publish" so that it is understood that other editors can see (and edit) drafts, even if not yet submitted for review. David notMD (talk) 21:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! May I ask you a follow-up question? I'm writing a bio, and I want to add a sidebar for her birth, nationality, education, etc., but I've forgotten how to insert the box. I've been reading about templates and sidebars, but I haven't found the answer. I'm doing visual editing. Do you know how to do this? Dactyl123 (talk) 00:53, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Whew, I'm ready to quit for the day and save. Footnotes, footnotes, footnotes. Have a nice night. Dactyl123 (talk) 01:00, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

If this is about Sanna K, what you want is Template:Infobox artist. David notMD (talk) 10:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I wish I'd seen your reply earlier! I don't know why it didn't show on my notifications. I've just spent at least an hour (on top of the time I spent yesterday) figuring out that I needed an "infobox" rather than a "sidebar." Argh. Well, it's done now, and I'm close to submitting my entry. Just need to do some more corrections...famous last words. Thanks for your help. Have a good weekend. Dactyl123 (talk) 00:39, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hadale'ela Afar Ethiopia

I want to Recorrect my location's Name From Hadele Ele to Hadale'ela Afar Ethiopia Plz Help me to do it Wollo Media (talk) 22:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Please make your suggestion on Talk:Hadele Ele. On Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethiopia, mention that you have made the suggestion on Talk:Hadele Ele, and invite people there to comment on your suggestion. -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Hadale'ela Afar Ethiopia

Hadale'ela Afar, Ethiopia is one of the woredas in the Afar Region of Ethiopia. Part of the Administrative Zone 5, Hadale-Ela is located near the base of the eastern escarpment of the Ethiopian highlands, and bordered on the south by Simurobi Gele'alo, on the west by the Amhara Region, on the north by Dalifage, on the northeast by the Borkana River which separates it from Dewe, and on the east by Administrative Zone 3. Information is lacking on the towns of this woreda. Wollo Media (talk) 22:48, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

No point in responding again. OP is now indefinitely blocked. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:23, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

claim an anonymous correction

I saw an error in an article "Silicon" and I tried to log in. I could not remember my password so I logged in generically. Unfortunate I am at a tech college and the IP is shared by the college. Someone made a bad edit on an unrelated page and then my edit was flagged with a warning due to that bad edit from this IP, not by me. I since recalled my password and want to claim that edit. IS THIS POSSIBLE? IF SO HOW? I-mt (talk) 00:03, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

@I-mt: If you go to Wikipedia:Oversight you can contact the oversight team to ask to supress the IP address on the edit you made while logged out. RudolfRed (talk) 00:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I-mt, sorry if I misunderstand; but my (mis)understanding is that when not logged in at all you made an intelligent edit and that you did so using the same IP number as somebody else who made a stupid edit. If this is indeed so, then this won't cause eyebrows to rise. It's entirely normal for a particular tech college IP number to be used in close succession by one or more intelligent people and one or more nitwits. I wouldn't worry about your use of the IP number. -- Hoary (talk) 05:02, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. There is no way to reattribute an edit. You may if you wish put a note on your user page that that particular edit was made by you: you need to weigh up how important it is to you to "claim" the edit, against revealing an IP address that you used. ColinFine (talk) 10:53, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Article ends history of subject about 5 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_of_Dimes While making year end donations, I tried to research the March of Dimes. After finding several online article about a sudden and controversial defunding of researchers 9n 2018, I came to Wikipedia to see additional information. The history of the organization ends before the time of the controversy. It's as if it is 2017. This made me wonder if someone deleted or blocked the later history. It just doesn't "smell" right. 2603:8001:C900:8A0C:A5FD:A5E3:59D1:B70C (talk) 06:10, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

If you want to find out whether this has happened, look in the "history" of the article, particularly for any major deletions. -- Hoary (talk) 06:24, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

If no volunteer editor freely chooses to update an article since 2017, then the article will stay "frozen", as it were, in 2017. There are millions of articles that need updating and a limited number of volunteers. So, feel free to get to work, in compliance with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines. You are just as capable as anyone else to improve that article. Cullen328 (talk) 06:35, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

If you take a look at Talk:March of Dimes, you will see that the last substantive discussion of the article content took place in 2011, over 11 years ago. Cullen328 (talk) 06:40, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Global Block

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Dear Wikipedia Stewards,

My name is Alia Walsh, I am an equestrian who is very involved in the Equestrian Industry and I have a lot of knowledge on the current international equestrians. I recently joined Wikipedia to be able to make some slight changes to some equestrian's pages - who I am related to.

Unfortunately, I did not know enough about Wikipedia to make successful edits. This lead to my 'indefinite block'. I would like to have the chance to explain myself, to redeem your trust and have a second chance in the wikipedia community, which I very much want to be a part of.

First all, I would like to express my appreciation to wikipedia stewards like yourselves, as well as my admiration to the work you and the large number of editors do. Without your dedication, wikipedia would never be as successful as it is today, it is incredible the amount of impact and help that wikipedia has provided to many people all across the world.

After doing some more research on the topic, I would like to explain my actions and how I am going to amend them in the future, to be able to be part of the community in a non-disruptive way. Bearing in mind I did not have knowledge on wikipedia and how it worked, I have now learned that it appears I can some what be related to a conflict of interest with the article I edited: Cian O'Connor. I now understand that my conflict of interest violates wikipedia's policies. To make this right, if I am allowed to, I would like to declare having a conflict of interest and work to fix the issues that this has generated to the pages I have contributed to. As a first step I would request deleting the paragraph found under Cian O'Connor named as 'Karlswood Stables'. I now understand that there is not a neutral point of view and does not adhere to the 'biographies of a living person policy' and therefore should not be on the page. I would like to amend that, and to state that from now on I will put forward edit requests so that the eligible editors can review and edit my content if deemed relevant.

The following topic relevant for me to explain myself, is the fact I was constantly trying to upload pictures. I believed that since they were of my own source. I have now learned that all images uploaded to wikipedia must have one of the accepted licensing such as cc-by or cc-by-sa. I will not make this mistake again and I am fully committed to following the guidelines now that I am aware of them. I have researched images that comply with the licensing and I can suggest those to be used instead.

One of the biggest mistakes I made was to create a second account after my first block. I now understand this is a very disrespectful thing to do. I would like to mention I created the second account using my same name, with my work email address. I was not trying to have another identity, but only have access to the page to be able to edit my mistakes which I had already identified. However, I know that is no excuse and I would like to apologise for that.

Another topic to address, is the fact that I deleted the tags given to my post. I believed these were tags shown only for my account, not in a public way. I deleted them constantly, thinking that those were my warnings. I apologise very much for doing so, I would like to express that my mistakes are completely innocent, I did not mean to be disrespectful or be disruptive. I had simply not done enough research.

Additionally, I did not check my notifications during the time I was editing. That lead me to not seeing or answering any of the complaints and warnings posted to my page. I would never intentionally ignore warnings, in any case. I unfortunately did not know to check them. I now check my inbox on a daily basis, and I have replied to all the warnings immediately, as soon as I had realised my mistake.

I have learned that what I've done is wrong. I have done research and I have learned how to make meaningful contributions abiding by the policies. I strongly believe I can be a useful contributor to wikipedia and it's community. I would love a second chance and to work together with other editors, to be able to provide truthful and interesting edits to the pages related to the equestrian industry.

I would really appreciate the consideration of being unblocked, as well as the chance to talk to you stewards, perhaps through email, so I can communicate with you and be sure that I do not make any mistakes again, if I am granted with a second chance to be a wikipedia editor.

Thank you very much for your time, please feel free to contact me at any time. 86.43.64.234 (talk) 07:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

You are evading a block and in consequence, you are making matters much worse for yourself. We do not engage in substantive discussions with block evaders. You are not permitted to edit anywhere on Wikipedia while blocked and any further efforts to evade the block will make it much less likely that the block will ever be lifted. Please read the Guide to appealing blocks. You may need to read it multiple times until you understand it deeply. Do not continue trying to evade your block. Do not go there. Cullen328 (talk) 07:56, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

@Cullen328 & IP user, you may be referring to the Guide to appealing blocks. 💜  melecie  talk - 08:04, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I have corrected my typo. Cullen328 (talk) 08:12, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

SITUATION: Account is User:Aliawalsh22. History of warnings, indefinite block, global block and failed appeals are at User talk:Aliawalsh22. The query above by IP 86.43.64.234 is considered a block evasion. The only recourse for the editor is to submit a better block appeal at the original account. The Global block may need to be appealed first at stewards@wikimedia.org David notMD (talk) 11:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Bar or measure?

In the Piano Sonatas by Ludwig van Beethoven, I often find both "bar" and "measure" being used. Is there a consensus as to which one to use, or are both acceptable?

Thank you. ContributeToTheWiki (talk) 16:22, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

ContributeToTheWiki Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may wish to direct this question to the talk page of that article, Talk:Ludwig van Beethoven, where the editors that follow that article can see it and better respond. 331dot (talk) 16:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

@ContributeToTheWiki 331dot's advice is good, or you could ask on a Talk Page for classical music at WT:CM. I've searched their archives and there doesn't seem to be any discussion on that topic. However, given that Measure (music) is a redirect to Bar (music), I would think that the latter is the more common term. However both do seem acceptable and both are heavily used in articles. The lead of our article does say that measure is more commonly used in American English, so WP:ENGVAR may apply. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:35, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

WP:ENGVAR should certainly apply, even if the issue is not explicitly mentioned there. Measure is, as far as I know, never used by British musicians, unless they need to talk to Americans, whereas American musicians tend to talk about bar lines which separate the measures. The part of ENGVAR which enjoins consistency within an article is also doubtless relevant. ColinFine (talk) 17:56, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Per all of the above, when there are two equivalent terms, the only principle that matters is consistency. Bar and measure are basically pure synonyms, and both are in common use, so it's fine to use either one, so long as one is consistent. If there is a dispute over which of the two words to use, check the article history for whichever one was used first. That's usually a good rule of thumb. --Jayron32 18:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Geography Sections

The thing is, I’m very good at history/geopolitics stuff, and I’ve edited some pages like that, but the Geography Section that is in some pages is a bit confusing. I have the information, but I do not know the format to write it. Currently, this page is the Dubrovnik page.

Kindly help me with my doubt. Regards, Retiarus732. Retiarus732 (talk) 16:43, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

You'll find some advice at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure#Geography. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:55, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikitionary Question

Hello. I recently created a page for the etymology of the Persian word "رای." I was trying to enter my citations but i got an error stating that I was spamming. The error also said that I could get my account banned, which i obviously do not want. Could somebody elaborate why this is? or possibly enter the citation for me? this is the citation I would like to enter:

Qaemmaqami, A. R., & Khatebey, A. (2013, July 9). رای و رأی ([New Persian] rāy and [arabic] ra'y). Academia.edu. Retrieved December 9, 2022, from https://www.academia.edu/3992194/%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C_%D9%88_%D8%B1%D8%A3%DB%8C_New_Persian_r%C4%81y_and_Arabic_ra_y_

This is the link to the page: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C

There is also a Persian word "رای" of Arabic origin, however the words are distinct in their etymology and pronunciation. Maybe Wikitionary thought I was creating another page for a word that already has a page? I am very confused and would greatly appreciate some assistance. MarkParker1221 (talk) 18:55, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, MarkParker1221. Wiktionary is a separate project with its own policies and guidelines. You will have to ask your question there. The Teahouse is for asking and answering questions about editing the English Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 19:12, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Also asked at help desk. Replied there. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:11, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I see. Thank you. MarkParker1221 (talk) 20:32, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

How can I

How can I become an Administrator and become a good wikipedian — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAutumns (talk • contribs) 19:04, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheAutumns: Thanks for stopping by the Teahouse to ask this question. Information on administrators is found at Wikipedia:Administrators. It generally takes several years of very active, quality work at Wikipedia and a clear familiarity with Wikipedia's culture and behavior management processes as well. As a new user, it'll be a very long time indeed before you should even consider applying for adminship. In general, being a "good wikipedian" means following the 5 pillars of good editing, managing conflict properly when it happens, making solid contributions to the encyclopedia, etc. Help:Introduction is a good place to start learning how to do so. --Jayron32 19:19, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

"Good wikipedian" is that a new class of Good article? WHere's the nomination process! ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:44, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Maybe you can earn the title after collecting a certain number of service awards. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Another element to being a good Wikipedian is signing your posts on discussion pages such as the Teahouse, TheAutumns. You can do this by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

sorry Cordless Larry I don't got you well, and please another question how can I report such as harassing vandalisms — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAutumns (talk • contribs) 21:08, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheAutumns, vandalism and harassment are two different things. Vandalism is a blatant and malicious attempt to disrupt Wikipedia (WP:VANDALISM); harassment is offensive behavior directed against one or more people (WP:HARASSMENT). They are generally handled in different ways. Vandalism can be reported to WP:AIV, for example, if it meets the behavior, while harassment would probably be addressed at WP:ANI.

Please either use the "reply" button (which will automatically sign your post) or add ~~~~ to the end of your post. We have a bot that will sign posts for you, but it is not always reliable. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:41, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

First, be respectful and civil to your fellow Wikipedians. Then try to make constructive edits as you see fit. A lot of important stuff is outlined in Help:Introduction and WP:GUIDE. I hope you like Wikipedia and decide to stay. Professor Penguino (talk) 23:52, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Article: Sohan Pappu

Could you please help me with my first Article creation Johndharmadeep (talk) 19:25, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Well, all I can say is that it needs reliable sources and needs cleanup to comply the neutral point of view policy. Sarrail (talk) 19:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Could you please help me with it. Because I found this person in google very exiciting. At such age he has been into many news channels and interviews with his tremendous work. If I can suggest you respectfully, I request you to please create by your name. Johndharmadeep (talk) 19:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

In the feedback which you have received, the words in blue are wikilinks to detailed advice. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

One point to bear in mind is that the reliable sources need to be independent of the subject. Interviews with the subject do not demonstrate notability. Wikipedia is interested in what reputable independent sources say about the subject, not what he says about himself. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Could you please share me your mail sir? I will share the person details. I m new to this Johndharmadeep (talk) 19:44, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

No. Advice has been given here on Wikipedia. Note also that when alongside the "Resubmit" button on your draft it said "Please note that if the issues are not fixed, the draft will be declined again", that's what it meant. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:46, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

@Johndharmadeep: another point you should be made aware of is that "Which helps his project a lot for the social reasons." is absolutely the wrong reason for creating an encyclopedia article on Wikipedia. Quisqualis (talk) 21:13, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Teahouse hosts are here to advise, but not to be co-authors. David notMD (talk) 05:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Is this a bad username?

I was reverting some changes and found User:Kazakhstan, Greatest country in the world. I believe this is against the username policy, but I want some input before I strike. SniperReverter (Talk to me and what I've done) 21:49, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Doesn't seem violate anything. Also your contribution link doesn't work. Slywriter (talk) 21:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

User blocked indefinitely. Their edit filter log looks convincing. Sarrail (talk) 22:23, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, also @Slywriter how do I make it work? SniperReverter (Talk to me and what I've done) 03:39, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

SniperReverter, remove the | as I did above to your signature, or this, which is probably the better way. The | is part of the convention when doing internal links, where a space is used when doing an external link(arrow icon) as you currently have it setup. Slywriter (talk) 04:44, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

I would say that it contravenes WP:DISRUPTNAME, SniperReverter. ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Looks like the work of Борат Quisqualis (talk) 23:02, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Inuit sun and moon myth

A couple days ago the page Malina (mythology) looked like this. No proper citations.

So I looked into it, and tracked down several versions that cite where they heard the story from:

• The Arctic Sky (1998) has 2 versions, from the storytellers George Kappianaq and Hervé Paniaq, both from Igloolik.
• Knud Rasmussen's Report of the Fifth Thule Expedition 1921–24 has 2 versions, one from the Pâdlermiut storyteller Kibkârjuk and one from the Iglulik storyteller Ivaluardjuk.
• Franz Boas's The Central Eskimo (1888) has an Akudnirmiut and Oqomiut version of the story, though the storyteller's name is not cited.

What's not included in any of these cited versions is the name "Malina".

• Sister's name:
  • Unnamed (3 versions)
  • Siqiniq, literally "sun" (2 versions)
• Brother's name
  • Aningaat (2 versions)
  • Unnamed (2 versions)
  • Taqqiq, literally "moon" (1 version)

One more half-source is Frank Wilbert Stokes's painting in the Eskimo Hall of the American Museum of Natural History in 1909. It's the image that's the artwork for both the pages Malina (mythology) and Igaluk. In the pamphlet on it, the figures' names are spelled Ahn-ing-ah-neh and Sukh-eh-nukh -- clearly an early attempt to spell Aningaat and Siqiniq.

Plus, "Malina" doesn't even sound like an Inuit word. Initially I thought it was just an usual name. But with this as well, I now think it's an internet myth.

I've done a write-up of the cited versions here. Since the name Malina is wrong, and the page Igaluk is basically just a clone of it since its the same story, I think the best thing to do now would be to delete the pages and create a single new page called "Sun and Moon (Inuit myth)" or something. What's the protocol around such things? Eievie (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@Eievie: Start a discussion on the article's talk page, and get input from and consensus with other interested editors. RudolfRed (talk) 01:06, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@RudolfRed I already tried that, but as a low-traffic page I'm not getting anything. Eievie (talk) 01:22, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Eievie, I recommend moving the article to a more appropriate title and removing any names that cannot be verified. Cullen328 (talk) 01:31, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Eievie, I found this book published in 1923 that says In the myth the sun is called Malina , no doubt a derivative of the verb maligpoq ' she is pursued ' , the name of the persecuted woman in the cult; the name of the moon is given as Aningat , which signifies "their elder brother". So, it is not an internet myth. Cullen328 (talk) 01:43, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

In a 1970 book by Claude Lévi-Strauss and his colleagues, they wrote On sait que les gens du Mackenzie et les Groenlandais orientaux nomment la fille - soleil Malina (Maligna) , contrairement aux autres groupes qui lui réservent le nom de Seqineq (Suqunuq) My French skills are crude at best but it seems that this verifies the usage as well. Cullen328 (talk) 02:03, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

That's interesting, thanks. I'll work those sources in. That said, I still think it remains that the name "Malina" is a somewhat uncommon detail in versions of this story, not a consistent feature. That the Malina page and the Igaluk page have the same content also remains. I'm still basically of the opinion that merging and remaining them would be better. Eievie (talk) 17:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Why did Sinbot

please why and what is the essence of signing our comments or posts by Sinbot — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAutumns (talk • contribs) 05:33, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, the purpose of User:Sinebot is to help you sign your reply if you forgotten to do so. We are required to sign our reply in talk pages using ~~~~ at the end of every reply made, you read more about it WP:SIG. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:20, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Famous figure lying about age

Hi there. I keep updating the wiki page of Stephen Sharer to add his correct birthday as he is lying to children about his age. I keep adding his real age of 30 but it is constantly getting deleted and I am not sure why, thanks in advance. 2600:1015:B063:16E2:482B:3FC:52E6:BE4A (talk) 06:13, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Maybe you need to give a reliable source for his birthday! --Bduke (talk) 06:17, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

it's going trying to login with Google and try to log in with you doing with this every day I'm tired I've had it I'd rather just go without 2600:1700:DDD0:AE90:C58C:24BC:3956:268 (talk) 06:24, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi there , confused about your last message about Google, could you elaborate? He has wiped the internet of his real age and due to the fact that he works with children I think it is important to be added. This will sound crazy but would a link to a yearbook with photographic evidence work? I don’t seem to have any other way to prove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1015:B063:16E2:482B:3FC:52E6:BE4A (talk) 06:29, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Why does it matter "for children" if he is 24 or 30? His Wikipedia article does not include his age or birthdate, as far as I can see. David10244 (talk) 11:51, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Is am just worried for minors and am not sure what else to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1015:B063:16E2:482B:3FC:52E6:BE4A (talk) 06:32, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

We require an impeccably reliable source for a date of birth. This is mandatory and not negotiable. If reliable sources differ, we provide both and explain the contradiction. Being "worried for minors" is nice but does not justify straying from our policies and guidelines. Cullen328 (talk) 07:39, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't understand what the concern for minors is. 331dot (talk) 09:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

I guess that a 24-year-old might be thought less mature and less capable of dealing with children than a 30-year-old? Maybe? But quite a few 24-y-olds are themselves parents, and I'm sure we all know very immature quadragenarians, so... It's all very peculiar. --bonadea contributions talk 17:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. This discussion is probably more suitable for WP:BLPN. GiantSnowman 10:59, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

bingx.com draft improvement

Hi

hope you doing well

I need help for improving the draft of bingx.com article and please let me know exactly where my mistakes in this draft is and help me to modify it

thank you so much Sedrezahosseini (talk) 11:19, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Sedrezahosseini Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You have submitted it for a review; the reviewer will give you any feedback. A previous reviewer has left you comments on the draft as well. 331dot (talk) 11:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Likely not notable, and needs copyediting... which I am not inclined to do, since I predict the draft will be declined. That's my opinion; sorry. We'll see. David10244 (talk) 11:39, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

speedy deletion of "Dedert corporation"

hi there, wiki administration

First, I apologize for not understanding the copyright restrictions.

One of our company profiles should be posted on Wikipedia to assist our customers in finding information using Wikipedia's best detailed system.

So, I tried to include our firm profile and other information that is already on our website. I used several common words in both my online and wiki introductions. I saved it as a draft, but today I received information that a copyright issue had been transferred from our company's website to our wiki profile. However, we have not received any copyright notices or emails.

If you allow me to back up the work you've removed or construct a fresh one, it will be more beneficial to reproduce with the directions you've previously warned about.

Thank you to the wiki team for working on authentication and perfection. In the same way, guide us. We'll provide an excellent platform for the people.

Thanks

SM Faysal

web developer

Dedert Corporation Smfaysal1011 (talk) 13:16, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Smfaysal1011 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. First, you must make a formal paid editing disclosure; this is a Terms of Use requirement and mandatory.

Second, Wikipedia has no interest in aiding your customers, or in enhancing search results for your company. We don't have "profiles", not a single one. Wikipedia has articles, typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the subject. Any article about your company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Wikipedia is not interested in what a company says about itself. 331dot (talk) 13:26, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Any content deleted for copyright infringement will not be restored. First step is declaring paid on your User page (See WP:PAID). Then, use WP:YFA to create and submit a draft. References need to be independent from any content created by the company. WP:NCORP may help. Be aware that if you do succeed in creating a draft and having it accepted, after that milestone you are prohibited from any future editing of the article. Instead, you will be limited to making suggestions on the Talk page of the article, for an independent editor to accept or deny. Lastly, once an article exists, anyone can edit it. If there is valid negative published content about the company (lawsuits, etc.) that may be added. David notMD (talk) 16:19, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Your creation and Edit summaries for Draft:Swapno Sarothi make clear that you have either a WP:PAID or WP:COI connection, so declare that also. David notMD (talk) 16:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@Smfaysal1011 As for the "Swapno Sarothi" draft: Encyclopedia articles do not use the word "we". David10244 (talk) 11:44, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

David10244

pls review once again,

i think, this time all okay.

i thought i should wright as they talk on their website.

Thanks Smfaysal1011 (talk) 17:47, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

No, i'm not paid.

i took research and i know their activities. As a first time continuator, i took some wrong words.

Consider this situation as a new contributor. Smfaysal1011 (talk) 17:51, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Dave Bachinsky

Hey Good Morning, Draft:Dave Bachinsky

Trying to figure out the best way to update this page so it's approved. All the references are to real pages but it wasn't approved Roll Forever (talk) 17:36, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Roll Forever Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The reviewer left some advice for you on the draft. Do you have specific questions about it? 331dot (talk) 17:40, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

I just fixed all the links and updated some wording. Is there anything specific I should be changing? Roll Forever (talk) 17:49, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Among other things, nothing should be bold except his name. And delete all the contest history. And reference all the stuff at the top. and other stuff. David notMD (talk) 18:17, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Roll Forever. You need to remove all promotional language and bring the draft into compliance with the Neutral point of view. Sentences such as With precision transition skills and ability to huck down a massive set of stairs, Bachinsky has what it takes to be a top contender in any skateboarding contest. Insider jargon and slang like "huck" should be avoided. Cullen328 (talk) 21:48, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for revision. I'm just about to resubmit. Have an amazing weekend Roll Forever (talk) 01:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

This will be declined again. Everything from the top down to Shapethree needs to be referenced, and if not posible, deleted. David notMD (talk) 03:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

You should also go through the article and make sure every sentence is grammatically correct. In the "Shapethree" section, every one of the first five sentences contains at least one grammatical error. CodeTalker (talk) 04:04, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Table for species and how many of them

I am making a article about Cow Bayou in User:HelpingWorld/sandbox, and I am making a table for the species and the population of them. I got my info from this journal this pg 7-8. I dont know how to format the table all I need is the taxa/species and the number of it in the table, can anyone help? Thanks.`~HelpingWorld~` ^(👽🛸) 17:59, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Well, you seem to have made a competent start towards setting up a table, although I'm completely mystified as to what you have in mind to put in it. But apart from that, there's this problem. I looked at your source, and I don't think one can actually gather fish populations from it. It seems to me that what your source is saying is: FOR PURPOSES of the study, THIS MANY individuals of THIS species were caught BY THIS METHOD at THIS LOCATION. Unless I'm missing where the source extrapolates to total population, I don't think that's really usable. There's also the fact that the source is 45 years old, so even if it could give us an idea of fish populations from 1987, it probably isn't terribly relevant today. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:24, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@User:AzseicsoK, but your saying the fish species in the source still can be used correct cause last time I checked the same specieses are in the bayou.HelpingWorldMobile (talk) 22:31, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

childhood trauma and DNA methylation

Reason I am writing is that for the last thirty years I have worked as an executive coach/therapist in the UK and one of my initial trainings was in Family Therapy and how Family of Origin Dynamics plays out in the boardroom in both Government and the Corporate world.

However it now appears to me that most of that training has been overtaken by recent and emerging neurobiological research indicating how extended childhood trauma, or Complex PTSD, can lead to the Epigentic shutdown, via DNA Methylation, of the genetic capacity to produce Dopamine, Serotonin, etc ..

I've had a good look at the Family of Origin Dynamics of Putin, Trump, Johnson,( UK ),Bolsanaro, Mark Zuckerberg ,The Koch brothers and others , who all experienced extended child hood trauma. It appears to me that the Dopamine, Serotonin etc. shutdown findings to date correlate with and go a long way to explaining how and why these people behave in the toxic and dysfunctional ways they do. They evidently have large followings, as it also appears from emerging data, that approx 40% of the US adult population experienced extended traumatic child hoods making them very susceptible to strong aggressive leadership and easily triggered into a fight , flight or freeze response.

To me the implications of Dopamine shutdown as a result of Complex PTSD have huge mental health policy and strategic implications and there seems to be so little awareness of this emerging research.

Reason I am writing to you is that I am seeking further and current research findings that review and elucidate on the topic of DNA methylation and its affect on adult behaviour and psychology especially as I have a number of colleagues and journalists interested in the topic who wish to see more of the current research before going public with it.

Any current research papers or publications on the above topic you could refer me to would be greatly appreciated

I trust this email is received in the spirit of its intent

Many thanks

Sol Davidson B.SC. B.Ed. MBA, MACE (Redacted) SolDavidson (talk) 18:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

This almost certainly isn't the forum for this, but I'm curious. In your study, are you backing up your assertion that the individuals you name DO behave in toxic and dysfunctional ways? Or is that your starting point--an axiom, that not only doesn't need discussion, but is so preternaturally self-evident that it shouldn't even occur to anybody to discuss it? Uporządnicki (talk) 18:34, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, SolDavidson. I can suggest only two avenues for this within Wikipedia. One is to look at the articles we have on related subjects (eg Dopamine - you can probably find some more targetted articles), and see if there are any useful studies cited in them. The other is to ask at the science section of the Reference Desk, where it is possible that somebody can give you some pointers. (Like everything else in Wikipedia, this is inhabited by volunteers). ColinFine (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, SolDavidson. If Mark Zuckerberg suffered signicant childhood trauma, that is not reflected in his Wikipedia biography. Cullen328 (talk) 22:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

SolDavidson, our article DNA methylation has 128 references to discussion of the topic in the scientific literature. Have you read that article and its references? Cullen328 (talk) 22:06, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Name change protocol

Hi! First-time Wikipedia editor here. I created an awards table in the Gabrielle Zevin article. In 2005 she was longlisted for the Otherwise Award, which was then called the James Tiptree Jr. Award. The name changed occured in 2019. I linked to the wiki article on the award, link reads as Jame Tiptree Jr. Award, which is also the name I put down as the award category. Is this correct? And what's the general protocol for name changes? Thanks! Snowflower2 (talk) 18:29, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Snowflower2, and welcome to the Teahouse. You linked to the article, which is titled by the award's current name, and you made the display text the name of the award at the time. In my view that is exacttly the right way to do it. ColinFine (talk) 19:13, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! @ColinFine Snowflower2 (talk) 02:20, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Image width

Hi, on the UEFI article I used a multiple image template. I do want to make the logo a bit smaller though. But it seems that the width1 parameter is ignored. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. PhotographyEdits (talk) 20:38, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

How please and please

Wikipedia has many rules than any websites, Wikipedia is not such like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter e.t.c. these social medias you can do what ever you like but before you get blocked it is not common it is very hard. so why Wikipedia blocked people so fast? and how can I become useful to Wikipedia and to get respect by it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAutumns (talk • contribs) 06:25, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

@theautumns: check our introduction. lettherebedarklight晚安 06:34, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Also, Wikipedia is NOT social media. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:15, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

yeah I know Wikipedia is mostly close with google true??TheAutumns (talk) 11:23, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheAutumns No. Google is primarily a search engine, while Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. The rules are here so that Wikipedia does not turn into a social media or chat site. Wikipedia does not try to be Google or Facebook. You are certainly welcome here if you want to help build and improve this encyclopedia. David10244 (talk) 11:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Useful by learning the rules. Many new editors start out with having 'good faith' edits reverted due to ignorance of the rules, examples being adding content they know to be true, but without references, or inserting copyright protected content. Others do not comprehend neutral point of view, or want to create promotional/advertising type articles. David notMD (talk) 12:17, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

sorry please but I don't got what is this talking about what is the subject of this topicTheAutumns (talk) 13:21, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

I would take issue with the idea that it's very hard to get blocked in Facebook. You get kicked right off Facebook, if someone there doesn't like your name. Their rules are just to make you think they have rules and do things fairly, but it's pretty arbitrary. They don't tell you why; you just find you have no account one morning. And their "mechanism" for appeal is also just for appearance; it never leads to anything--not even a reply. The only time it's ever reversed is when they do it to someone sufficiently prominent that it makes the news. Then they put out a statement that--oh, it was a mistake!--and undo it.

Uporządnicki (talk) 13:32, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

How to align to center in the entire rows of a specific column in an existing large table.

There is a table of 100 rows and 5 columns.

I want to change the alignment of the 3rd column from center to left.

I know I can insert style="text-align:center" in a cell but doing this one hundred times is .. too much.

Can I do this once and apply to the entire rows of the 3rd column? Regpath (talk) 06:34, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Regpath. This cannot be done except in some circumstances with Wikipedia:TemplateStyles which has limitations and is difficult to use. Repeating code in every row is the normal way to format a column, also with hundreds of rows. A regular expression can often add the code in every row at the same time but it can be quite tricky to get right if the table code isn't very clean and systematic. Don't try it if you aren't already familiar with regular expressions. Which page and table is it about? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:27, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Article for review

i am aware of the procedure for reviewing of articles which get submitted to articles for creation. however, what about reviewing of those articles which get directly published? if my account enables me to create and directly publish an article (which it does), how do i request a review? is there any text that i am supposed to add to the article vis-a-vis its reviewing? would be glad to know. Dissoxciate (talk) 06:59, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

They get listed automatically at Special:NewPagesFeed. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:19, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

And from there they are either approved or deleted. If you want a new article reviewed then you need to create it through the draft process. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

alright. thanks for the input. Dissoxciate (talk) 09:13, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Redlinks and Women in Red

I have come across (or added) names of people, organisations, companies, and things that probably merit Wikipedia articles. Some are subjects of articles that already exist on other wikis, some are good candidates for WP:WiR, and a few just seem like obvious omissions that someone may wish to pursue. I will pick up what I can (time permitting), though it would take me years to contribute something about all of them. What are the best forums to bring these to the attention of others? Cheers Cl3phact0 (talk) 07:57, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Cl3phact0, there is requested articles, see WP:RA, but to be honest the list of articles already requested is enormous, and things languish there for extremely long periods. Most editors seem to pursue their own areas of interest, and fill in the blanks the encounter as they read around WP. Where articles exist on other Wikipedias, if they are of adequate quality for the English WP (which has more stringent requirements for sourcing than some), you can translate them, see WP:TRANSLATETOHERE for an overview. Elemimele (talk) 10:50, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I suppose I asked partially because the WP:RA list is so dauntingly long. Any thoughts about "Stubbing" best practice? I looked at this in passing and thought it might be a good way to get some of the articles started, but I am also wary of touching any invisible wiki-verse third rails (being fairly new to here). Cheers Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red has an extensive set of its own redlink lists: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Redlist index, which you can add to. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 11:02, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I've added a few to the list you shared. I also put a note with some others on the talk page of the project. Cheers Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:43, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Direct publish or AfC?

if i have created an article by publishing it directly; however, wish to seek a review at AfC, should i just copy the entire content of the article (which i already published), create a draft, paste it and submit to AfC? or something else? and if i do copy it to AfC, what should i do to the already published article? apply for speedy deletion or notify someone? hope the question is intelligible. Dissoxciate (talk) 11:30, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Dissoxciate. If you would like to return your article to draft status and then submit it to WP:AFC, the easiest thing to do would be to WP:DRAFTIFY the article. Basically, you will be WP:MOVEing the page from the article namespace to the draft namespace. Once you've done that, you can then submit it to AfC for review. If your question is about Journey's End (painting), then instead of submitting it to AfC for review, maybe ask for assistance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts. At first glance, the article doesn't look all that bad; so, maybe see what some of the members of WikiProject Visual arts think about it. If it's only in need of minor improvement and notability is not a concern, then there's no need to draftify it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

hi Marchjuly. thanks a lot for the response. this is exactly what i was looking for. personally, i do think there aren't any notability issues here; i just require some additional assistance. ill check at Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts. gracias! Dissoxciate (talk) 12:25, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Dissoxciate, I notice two chunks within Journey's End (painting) -- challenged the British academic system of art education and the physicality of the oil medium, and He was greatly inspired by the Mughal miniature traditions and the Japanese wash technique -- that are taken verbatim from this, but without quotation marks. (There may be other unacknowledged quotations too: I didn't look.) Use quotation marks for any quotation; and do so quickly. -- Hoary (talk) 12:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Hoary should i add quotation marks then, or just edit the chunks to make them non-verbatim? i think the latter should suffice. Dissoxciate (talk) 12:32, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Dissoxciate, you're free to do either. NB just changing the odd word here or there would not be sufficient; you'd have to do a thorough reworking. -- Hoary (talk) 12:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Future f1 champions

Hello my name is osvaldo and i wanna create a list of future f1 champions until 2050 can you go to the f1 champion list and give out every single driver that was f2 f3 f4 and karting and you know ill click on the future drivers page and check out their photos of them from wikipedia and observe them as future stars wouldnt that be nice because i really really want them please 2A01:C50F:2F00:1000:2152:C195:23A:2DB0 (talk) 13:46, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

So, to clarify, you want the creation of a list of future F1 champions until 2050? It's only 2022, why extend it to 28 years later? Sarrail (talk) 13:48, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place for predictions. See WP:CRYSTAL. Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:49, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

List of Formula One World Drivers' Champions lists champions 1950-2022. Only after a year is over is the list updated with one new name. List of Formula One drivers lists all drivers who were in at least one F1 race, with a green background for those currently active. As already mentioned, Wikipedia cannot predict who among them might win the championship in the future, or for race car drivers who have not yet competed at the F1 level yet, or not racing at any level yet, or not born yet. David notMD (talk) 14:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

This crystal ball's always cloudy except for when you look into the past. We do not engage in speculation for next year, let alone decades into the future. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 15:07, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

It seems to me more than likely that the future F1 champions of, say, 2045–50 have not even been born yet. {The poster formerly known as 83.81.230.195} 90.213.188.15 (talk) 17:52, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Get page accepted

Hi, I need help adding references and making my page better, so it will get accepted. Draft:Marry Me Ollymurswiki (talk) 15:49, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Ollymurswiki Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please see Referencing for beginners. Also note that YouTube is only rarely considered an appropriate source. 331dot (talk) 15:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

navboxes not rendering on mobile?

The article Lists of The New York Times fiction best sellers uses a navbox template, and it was just brought to my attention that the navbox isn't visible on mobile. (Unless you view on desktop mode.) Is this a known bug? I'm not sure where to take this. Thanks! -- irn (talk) 17:28, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

how do you become an editor

i literally was clicking random stuff Lol1234joejoe (talk) 17:28, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Would article be deleted after x number of re-submissions?

Hi everyone, good morning/afternoon/evening!

Would the articles that are still in-progress be deleted after a set number of unsuccessful attempts? Thank you for answering. HanaKaeKo (talk) 17:48, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Introduction

Hello everyone on Wikipedia. I would like to introduce myself. Thank you Scencter (talk) 17:49, 11 December 2022 (UTC)