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Abrams is often mentioned as a composer and has IMDb credits, but there is no additional information in this article about his history as a composer. Can someone flesh this out a bit and include a citation? [[User:ThreeRocks|ThreeRocks]] ([[User talk:ThreeRocks|talk]]) 18:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC) |
Abrams is often mentioned as a composer and has IMDb credits, but there is no additional information in this article about his history as a composer. Can someone flesh this out a bit and include a citation? [[User:ThreeRocks|ThreeRocks]] ([[User talk:ThreeRocks|talk]]) 18:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Style
Is it appropriate to include something about J.J. Abrams' particular style, as least as it's developed so far?--Uncat 21:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Go for it. —Mulad (talk) 03:15, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
- My new goal in life is to figure out where they quoted J.J. as saying "Resolution is for suckers," or something similar.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.115.108.101 (talk) 23:24, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
J.J. v J. J.
I've moved this article to J. J. Abrams in line with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people), wherein it states that "For abbreviated names (if these are the most used) every abbreviation is followed by a point, and every point is followed by a single space". However, please comment if you disagree with this move - I'll monitor any discussing and go with the consensus. CLW 08:46, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. There should be a space between the two J's. —Lowellian (reply) 05:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree. And i am coming in some 40 months later on this discussion. Mr Abrams calls himself J.J. so who is Wikipedia to rename him? The naming conventions (people) section currently reads "There is no consensus for always using spaces between initials, neither for never using them. However, in most Wikipedia articles where the subject uses two consecutive initials, the space between initials is used; see Literary initials." The catch to that is the periods make it non-consecutive initials. I realise this is now a widespread matter but really my take on it is that no Manual Of Style should be renaming a person as it then becomes not the name they are known by but what the respective Manual Of Style wants them to be known as. Right now i have been working on turning the Alias episode lists into {{Episode list/sublist|List of Alias episodes}} and what a surprise, all of the writing and directing credits for J.J. that i have so far come across read as [[J. J. Abrams|J.J. Abrams]] so clearly there are other people here who disagree with this move but never saw this section to comment.
- On a personal level, I actually go by my initials in some circumstance and should i ever end up being notable and have a WP article the last thing i would want is WP to rename me. I would be reverting all edits that did such until i was blocked for disruption because consensus overrode my name. That being said i am not likely to ever be notable enough to have a WP article. :P delirious agus cailleadh ☯ 15:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- Why does J.J. Abrams get renamed and not k.d. lang? She doesn't have a space between initials. --Liquidmetalrob (talk) 23:37, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Frequent Casting
This section seems overdone and perhaps completely unnecessary, particularly the chart itself. In reality, only two of the 12 actors mentioned have appeared in more than two of Abrams' projects. I think this point could be made in a brief mention, rather than a whole section with a chart. --Johnsemlak (talk) 12:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, particularly you can see that Rosanna Arquette is only in two movies, and she is the only one on the chart who was in "Gone Fishin'", meaning that the "Gone Fishin'" column was included only because an actor who was in two of his films was in it. I suggest at the very least axing the chart, and possibly the entire section. (Not logged in on this computer, but I'm Paul Ganssle 24.7.67.75 (talk) 05:08, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Agree, axe the chart. There's a difference between noting an actor appears, and assigning a meaning to it. There could be a variety of reasons, an obvious one that is often stated in DVD commentaries is that a director is familiar and comfortable with an artist's work. I.e., that they are a known quantity. That, in itself, doesn't even particularly qualify as trivia. But it isn't necessarily the case that level of comfort has anything to do with it. It could be, for example, that the actor was under contract. Or that the director/producer/whoever insisted on using the actor. Or that the actor agrees to work for a very reasonable salary. The table doesn't impart any insight. Piano non troppo (talk) 08:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- I also agree with getting rid of the chart. Since there has been no objection in 4 months, I will do so now. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 12:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
- It seems this chart has been added back in to the article sometime in the past 8 years, if it was ever removed at all. I started a new discussion at the bottom since the name of the section seems to have changed.Closetsingle (talk) 16:19, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- I also agree with getting rid of the chart. Since there has been no objection in 4 months, I will do so now. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 12:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Scientologist?
On the trektoday.com message board, someone wrote he used to be. Back this up? - Darkhawk (25 April 2006 @ 21:58 EST)
- I think anyone in any way connected to Tom Cruise is being reported as a Scientologist these days. Mad Jack O'Lantern 07:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Alias movie?
too many damn plot holes in the finale
- In an Interview with SciFi he stated "I think at the moment, right now Alias is sort of going to rest in just the right way, so I think that it's the right way for it to go out." - Source Merlin5793 09:06, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Article Undersized
This article seems to be undersized, it lacks information and mostly shows technical data. I was expecting to see a mile long page but instead it was quite short, almost a stub. There have been entire hour long shows chronicling his life, I think we can muster a better article. TostitosAreGross 01:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- By all means, go for it. I think you'll find some editors will come out of the woodwork to give you a hand, if you get the ball rolling. --BCSWowbagger 03:15, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- WikiProject Screenwriters has all of the Lost creators under it's watchful eye. This article really should be shored up with more information. Where are all those fanatical Losties? :)-BiancaOfHell 15:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Palisades Charter High School.
Why is this in the trivia section? It seems to me that if its relevant, it should be in the bio proper.--LeyteWolfer 06:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
He is Gay
Nightbeast
When he was 15? Really? Source please.--Aresef 04:29, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
"Parasite Movie"
Removed external link to www.parasitemovie.com. Any evidence linking this site to J.J. Abrams upcoming "Cloverfield" project is circumstantial at best.
Eurotransient 23:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Is this really called Parasite Movie?
Was this really confirmed to be called "Parasite Movie?" I don't think it is right to give that name yet until it has been confirmed. Wachapon2 00:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Italic text
Home Video Cameras?
Where is it confirmed that the Cloverfield movie will be made by home video cameras? --Naruto134 00:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The Dark Tower
Should there be a section talking about him getting the rights to adapt Stephen King's The Dark Tower series? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shavron (talk • contribs) 15:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
If it can be verified then yes. --Illustrious One (talk) 16:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Fictional universe?
The drink Slusho has featured in Lost, Alias and Cloverfield so is it possible that all of JJ Abrams personal projects (or at least these three) take place in the same fictional universe? --Illustrious One (talk) 16:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
For what?
So he is a director, but for what. Go more in detail in the summary, meaning,i.e. mostly known for LOST and ALIAS. No one has the time to read your roman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.237.150.54 (talk) 09:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
He means do you think Cloverfield, Alias and Lost take place in the same fictional universe? Don't be so rude. With regards to the question I think it's possible but to say so on Wikipedia without verifiable sources would not be allowed on the grounds of OR. --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 19:30, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- JJ often uses many well established fictional brands in his work. Instead of getting sued by real life businesses, movies and other fictional media use fictional brands, and several of these brands have become well established. For example, Oceanic Airlines has been used in many different media for several decades, businesses called Acme have been used since the 1920s (think of the Looney Tunes own usage of it), Morley cigarettes for many decades (since the beginning of the 1960s with Dick Van Dyke and the original Twilight Zone), and beer brands Heisler, Penzburg, and Jekyll Island. Slusho and Apollo Bars are either previously used fictional brands, or ones made up at the moment and were reused when they were needed. The only fictional universe in play here is likely to be the Imaginationland of Hollywood type movies for the last century.
- — al-Shimoni (talk) 16:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
filmography
it looks like the filmography section was accidently put in twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.93.18 (talk) 13:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC) you forgot to include his NBC 2013 release, Revolution — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.255.159.6 (talk) 21:43, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Lost opening theme
It says that he wrote the opening theme for Lost - but Lost has no opening theme. Any idea what was meant here? Luminifer (talk) 15:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Lost does have an opening theme. It plays over the title of "Lost" as it zooms in. It's a discordant, simplistic melody, but it's still the Lost theme. ashedmaniac (talk) 23:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think it counts as a theme, does it? It's just one or two chords. I would call it more of a sound. Luminifer (talk) 18:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's described as the Lost opening title on the soundtrack, which also credits Abrams as the creator of the "song." ShadowUltra (talk) 05:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- "Opening title" or "opening theme"? Luminifer (talk) 20:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- It's described as the Lost opening title on the soundtrack, which also credits Abrams as the creator of the "song." ShadowUltra (talk) 05:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think it counts as a theme, does it? It's just one or two chords. I would call it more of a sound. Luminifer (talk) 18:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- The opening theme goes "Whoooshhhhh ennnn preee-wernuu-wernuu-wernuu-wernuu...". 24.68.50.170 (talk) 19:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Image caption
Should the caption say he's speaking when he's got his mouth shut? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.76.198 (talk) 11:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
why why why is he not doing the DT films?
19th jan 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.115.142 (talk) 03:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Why buy the right to the film (for 19 dollars)if he is not gonna do it, jj must have known when he signed up for this in 2007 that he was going to busy for a while so why buy the rights if he had no intention of doing it? I hope with all my heart he sells the rigths instead of deniying us the film we want to see with all our hearts, forget star trek, it was good but it doesn't compare to what DT could be. Please please if you don't make it let somebody else make it, soon please us fsns are aching for it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.115.142 (talk) 03:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
"Actor"?
Um, this page doesn't list a single thing he's acted in. He's an actor? -- Erroneuz1 (talk) 20:41, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Youtube
He is in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqz5dbs5zmo&feature=channel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alertfiend (talk • contribs) 01:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- A sentence about it has been added to the article a while back. ("Abrams was featured in the 2009 MTV Movie Awards 1980s-style digital short "Cool Guys Don't Look at Explosions", with Andy Samberg and Will Ferrell, in which he plays a keyboard solo.") --82.170.113.123 (talk) 13:15, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Comma Use
I've noticed in this article that whenever a film that Abrams made is discussed, there is an unnecessary comma before it. An example: "...Abrams also collaborated with some person to produce the film, Awesome Film Adventure."
The comma is wholly unnecessary, and actually obstructs the flow of the sentence. I'd be happy to go over the article later, but I thought I'd raise the issue now.Benkaplan42 (talk) 16:42, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- I understand your point, and in this example removing the comma is fine. But please be judicious; sometimes commas like the one above are quite commonly used, especially if the name of the film is in midsentence. Cresix (talk) 16:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Missing reference
"he has also donated $2,000 to the Republican Robert Vasquez.[21]" I went to the link that is cited for this, and I see no mention of Vasquez at all as part of his donations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.191.86 (talk) 01:29, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
LOCK THIS IMMEDIATLY
IT's confirmed he will direct the new star wars and this page is now welcome to a lot of vandalism. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MostlyUnrelated (talk • contribs) 23:35, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- Although The Wrap reported that Abrams would be directing the next Star Wars film, this news has not yet been confirmed by him, his representatives, Disney or Lucasfilm. Primogen (talk) 23:49, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- I agree to lock this until news confirmation. Kevgallacher (talk) 16:33, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Directing Star Wars
I don't want to participate in an edit war, but several editors have been writing that Abrams WILL be directing the next Star Wars film. However, while several news outlets (The Wrap was the first), have REPORTED this news, neither Abrams, Bad Robot, Lucasfilm, or Disney have confirmed it. Primogen (talk) 00:26, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
- Now that Disney and Lucasfilm has officially confirmed Abrams as SW7's director and producer, does anyone have any objections to the removal of the sentence, with its umpteen citations, reporting that he is reported to be close to signing the deal? Primogen (talk) 21:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
SFX Awards
Article mentions two "SFX Award"s. May not be noteworthy, because there is no SFX Award article, nor does the SFX (magazine) article (they give out the awards) even mention the SFX Awards. It even appears to be an on-line poll, see the 2013 version here. Do you agree the SFX Awards can be removed? --82.170.113.123 (talk) 13:07, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- WP:BB; I've removed the SFX Award mentions from the article. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Need to rewrite career section
Read through the career section of the article. It sounds like something that has been pieced together by 100 different writers with various intents and tones. It is pretty terrible. I think it is time to do a rewrite, incorporating the important elements and smoothing out some of the detritus (SEE MTV movie award appearance). 03:33, 15 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bottre73 (talk • contribs)
Please Read The peace Project Experiment by Dave Harrienger.
See above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:E:8700:1C4:19F9:6F1E:BD80:53A2 (talk) 03:39, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
The Stops Along the Way
Abrams's filmography lists a miniseries based on a Rod Serling screenplay, but it's unsourced. Do we have any way to verify this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.191.181 (talk) 13:45, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
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it mentions jj abrams started his career at 16,, he is now 49,, this would calculate to be a career that started in 1982 and not the 1990s as it is titled?? thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.230.193.169 (talk) 02:28, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
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Castle Rock is not mentioned
He's executive producing a Hulu series based on Stephen King's work called "Castle Rock". Can someone add that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.247.252.237 (talk) 10:51, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Frequent Collaborators Section
This section seems excessive. Notably, nearly 3/4 of the actors mentioned appear only twice. This hardly seems to match the term "frequent", especially when one of those two appearances is a sequel (see the two Star Trek movies). I suggest we remove this section entirely, as it's just a chart with no accompanying text suggesting it has any real relevance to JJ in particular. Lots of directors have worked with lots of actors on more than one occasion. At an absolute minimum (I still think it should be removed entirely), the chart should be reduced to only those actors with three or more appearances. Closetsingle (talk) 16:17, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Since there has been no new discussion on this topic I will remove the section. Closetsingle (talk) 16:10, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Tommy Gormley
I was surprised by Mr. Gormley's absence from the collaborators "list". I believe Gormley has been an AD for Abrams on a large number of projects. I'm going to put him in. No worries on a revert if felt to be necessary.THX1136 (talk) 23:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
2010's Section of Career Needs Reworking
Going off of what user Bottre73 said in an earlier section, this section of Abrams' career recap needs to be reworked. It's overly excessive and focuses too much on the polarizing reactions towards Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker to the point where it all feels cluttered and even a bit one-sided as if it was written with a specific agenda. The Wikipedia pages for these films already cover all those controversies.
Note how most other filmmakers' Wiki pages aren't even close to being this extensive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9001:8206:2BBC:A43E:7F5E:6315:129A (talk) 19:36, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
UFO Showtime
The new show from Abrams about UFOs, could that be added in?Chantern15 (talk) 05:38, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Chantern15
- Added it in as "executive producer"Chantern15 (talk) 00:31, 27 September 2021 (UTC)chantern15
Marcia Lucas
In 2021 Lucas ex-wife Marcia Lucas, whom earned an Oscar for her editing of the 1977 original film and edited the other Original Trilogy films, was highly negative towards Abrams Abrams by stating he ¨did not have a clue about the franchise¨, and calling his storyline "terrible".
This feels shoehorned in to push a certain POV. The emphasis on Marcia Lucas' role in the original trilogy seems to be here to make her criticism sound like it's coming from a place of authority. Does this mean JJ Abrams' article should include the criticism of EVERYBODY who worked on a previous Star Wars film? I don't think so. If nobody objects, I will remove it, but I want to ask beforehand. 46.97.170.112 (talk) 08:52, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Zjsjjd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.167.30 (talk) 20:11, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Applause and nooooo
My two grandchildren are named after Star Wars characters. I applaud your talent. On another note/ I heard about a play referring to abortion as a joke. It is the murder of a human being. Please, tell me that a man of such storytelling can and will support life. All life. Thank you. Rosedean (talk) 12:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Composer
Abrams is often mentioned as a composer and has IMDb credits, but there is no additional information in this article about his history as a composer. Can someone flesh this out a bit and include a citation? ThreeRocks (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
UFO Buho3 6 9•••∆. Orión •••
Señor director.me llamo Daniel de México ..Jalisco. ..ay alguien que lo quiere contactar..no es broma...le envío mi correo electrónico....le pido un favor..discreción..•∆•••. Búho 3 6 9 619...69 2806:261:496:8319:F141:2186:1D32:4566 (talk) 08:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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