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Redirect doesn't make sense. This date shouldn't like to a specific event. [[User:Merlinsorca|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Merlin'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Merlinsorca|<span style="color:black"><sup>'''''s'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Merlinsorca|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''orca'''</span>]] 18:25, 16 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 18:25, 16 October 2023
October 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 16, 2023.
7 October 2023
- 7 October 2023 โ Operation Al-Aqsa Flood ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Redirect doesn't make sense. This date shouldn't like to a specific event. Merlinsorca 18:25, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
๐
- ๐ โ [[:wikt:๐]] ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Is Wiktionary the best target for this redirect? On the talk page User:Error suggested that List of age restrictions might be better, and at Apple Color Emoji the symbol is linked to Age of majority#Age 18. Previous RfDs failed to reach a consensus on the best target (there was consensus that Eirin (the Japanese film rating system) was not an appropriate target) and so it was deleted, it was recreated as a soft redirect following a 2021 deletion review. 18+ redirects to 18 rating. I'm undecided as local targets are generally better than Wiktionary ones but this Wiktionary entry is directly relevant and high quality. Thryduulf (talk) 18:22, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- I've just spotted that the page history also has Minor (law) as another possible target. I'm actually now wondering whether a disambiguation page might be best here? Thryduulf (talk) 18:25, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
๐
- ๐ โ Mathematical Alphanumeric Symbols ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
I propose disambiguating. Any opposition? Formigable (talk) 18:05, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- What other article(s) are you proposing to disambiguate this with? Thryduulf (talk) 18:09, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- What do you mean by disambiguating? Do you mean a dab page with at least two targets? in this case, what are the other targets? Your proposition may also be understood as a suggegtion for renaming the redirect. In this case, what is the suggested title? D.Lazard (talk) 18:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Rheobatrachus silus
- Rheobatrachus silus โ Gastric-brooding frog ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Im going to create an article about this species of frog, for some reason the species name is a redirect to its genus. Delete. V.B.Speranza (talk) 16:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- @V.B.Speranza, you can just remove the redirect by blanking the page, then adding new content. The redirect does not need to be deleted unless you want to move a page over it, which qualifies for speedy deletion and again is not dealt with here. Schminnte [talk to me] 17:04, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Don't Join
- Don't Join โ List of Star Wars characters#DJ ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Redirect for discussion. Apparently this is the full name of the character "DJ" in The Last Jedi. The lack of disambiguation makes me think there could be better targets for this redirect (like an anti-war, anti-draft slogan or something), but I don't have any great suggestions. Perhaps this already has the best target. TNstingray (talk) 14:35, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete rather than looking at it as a redirect one might ask "Is this a plausible entry point?" My feeling is that it is not, whatever the intended target. ๐บ๐ฆย FiddleTimtrentย FaddleTalkย toย meย ๐บ๐ฆ 14:42, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Star Wars
- Arligan Zey โ List of Star Wars characters#Arligan Zey ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Lucka Solange โ List of Star Wars characters#Lucka Solange ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Iri Camas โ List of Star Wars characters#Iri Camas ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Yendor (Star Wars) โ List of Star Wars characters#Yendor ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Strono Tuggs โ List of Star Wars characters#Strono Tuggs ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Bargwill Tomder โ List of Star Wars characters#Bargwill Tomder ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Utterly non-notable characters that are not and will never be listed on this page. Just because they exist doesn't mean it belongs on Wikipedia. That is why we have Wookieepedia. Delete. TNstingray (talk) 14:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC) (edited to combine entries: TNstingray (talk) 15:51, 16 October 2023 (UTC))
- Weak delete all I am torn over "disk space is cheap" and allowing these redirects to remain, but I feel they service little or no useful purpose, given the lack of notability of the characters. Marginally more likely entry point than Don't Join (subject to a marginally different discussion), but unlikely even so. ๐บ๐ฆย FiddleTimtrentย FaddleTalkย toย meย ๐บ๐ฆ 16:00, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Heteronomity
- Heteronomity โ Heteronormativity ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Missing 5 of the letters, to the point where I would not call this a plausible typo of the current target. If anything, I'd think this is a closer fit to Heteronomy, to which this title has two EXTRA letters, although the addition of the "it" between the m and the y makes this also a stretch for that title as well. I'd suggest deletion as while it might sound like a normal word, I feel it's a bit too far off to be plausible, and unclear what exactly is the intended target.
Google searching this typo "Includes results for Heteronomy". Utopes (talk / cont) 04:53, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Instead of speculation, let's look at the evidence. In my searches, 100% of the results used the term is a synonym of "heteronormitivity", and I see no evidence that it's a typo rather it's an intentional word choice. Thryduulf (talk) 09:37, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- We may be getting different results, because out of the 13 results on the first page, for me it hovered around 11/13 to 13/13 results about "heteronomy" exclusively, with the other 0-2 about heteronormativity. As for it being an intentional word choice, it cannot be in my eyes, as the word "heteronormativity" hinges on hetero normalization. The key functionary being "norm", which is misspelled as "nom" in the current redirect, and the suffix is over-condensed beyond that point. "Heteronormity" is likely more arguable, which doesn't exist. Utopes (talk / cont) 15:27, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. "Heteronomity" if it means anything doesn't mean the same thing as "Heteronormativity", and the term is mentioned nowhere in Enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:55, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 06:49, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Spelling notwithstanding, since "heteronormative" exists a number, likely a significant number, will look for "heteronormity". I'll bet that some will look for "heteronormaty". It's a likely entry point.
Troops (village)
- Troops (village) โ Voiskovitsy ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
No evidence that this village was called "Troops". Was never mentioned in the stub's lead, and was moved by the page creator a minute after creating the page at this title. Could have been a placeholder because of this, as it isn't mentioned and Google searches give all different results for "Troops village". Utopes (talk / cont) 04:45, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8B&op=translate Nyttend (talk) 05:33, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Deleteย โ Settlement names aren't typically literally translated. For example, despite Glasgow's etymology section stating it means "green-hollow", green-hollow doesn't redirect there. Even beyond that, the translation is not correct: under modern Russian grammar, the name of the village is the noun ะฒะพะนัะบะฐ (meaning "troops") turned into an adjective with the -ะพะฒ possessive suffix, turned back into a noun with the -ะธั suffix and pluralised. Instead, it approximately means "objects that are characterised with being possessed by troops". Randi๐ฆTalkContribs 14:48, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- So it's Troop's village rather than Troops (village)? - Darker Dreams (talk) 07:29, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Hะพฬrai
- Hะพฬrai โ Mount Penglai ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Seemingly normal redirect, except the o with macron character was typed via the Cyrillic script, and Hลrai already exists. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:19, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and WP:MIXEDSCRIPT. Duckmather (talk) 00:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:58, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep WP:MIXEDSCRIPT is clearly intended to prevent English characters from being replaced with non-English characters. However, Hะพฬrai and Hลrai are functionally identical for many native English users. - Darker Dreams (talk) 08:07, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 06:47, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:MIXEDSCRIPT and nom. TNstingray (talk) 14:23, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
List of indian films
- List of indian films โ Cinema of India ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- List of Indian films โ Cinema of India ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Lists of Indian films โ Cinema of India ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Delete List of indian films and List of Indian films and retarget Lists of Indian films to List of lists of lists ยงย Lists of Indian films. There is no such list at the target. โCopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 01:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget all to Category:Indian films, which is more complete than the entries at List of lists of lists. The miscapitalization and the use of singular "List" seem perfectly plausible - there's no reason for the reader not to expect us to have only one list. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget all per Pppery. Thryduulf (talk) 09:43, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget List of indian films and List of Indian films to Category:Indian films per Pppery, but retarget Lists of Indian films to Category:Lists of Indian films. I did not think of categories, and it seems they provide more entries than articles do. I have also noticed that many other countries have their own lists of lists of films, as seen at List of lists of lists ยงย Lists of films by country; perhaps Lists of Indian films could be expanded into an article. โCopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 16:02, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have no objection to retargeting Lists of Indian films to Category:Lists of Indian films. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:14, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget per @CopperyMarrow15. - Darker Dreams (talk) 08:14, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Create Lists of Indian films from the material at List of lists of lists ยงย Lists of Indian films, and target #1 and #2 there. Do not create a cross-namespace redirect to a Category: a Category is not a list. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:04, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Shhhnotsoloud, I would not be opposed to this either. If this article were to be created, however, would it only list the contents of List of lists of lists ยงย Lists of Indian films? Why would it not also list some of the other lists listed at Category:Lists of Indian films, such as List of Indian animated films? List of lists of lists lists only lists of lists, but the category lists other lists as well. Phew... โCopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 21:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget somewhere? Create an article?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Duckmather (talk) 03:37, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Shhhnotsoloud: This looks like the best solution to me. - Presidentman talk ยท contribs (Talkback) 16:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Methionylthreonylthreonyl...isoleucine
- Methionylthreonylthreonyl...isoleucine โ Titin ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Methionylthreonylthreonylglutaminylarginyl...isoleucine โ Titin ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]
Two more quite-long-redirects for Titin that include a separating ellipsis. I would combine these with the previous, however, these two seem to contain the proper spelling throughout and could be worth discussing separately for that reason. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The separating ellipsis brings up accessibility concerns. TNstingray (talk) 14:24, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete I made similar comments on yesterday's log page: These are implausible search terms as the insertion of ellipses is arbitrary in addition to the sequence being ambiguous. I won't search for any examples, but I guarantee the sequences MTT*I and MTTQ*I match many other proteins. If these are kept it would suggest that all proteins should be searchable by their sequence on Wikipedia either spelt out like this or by short forms (i.e. WP:PANDORA). โ Synpath 17:20, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Exuperius negator (bishop)
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was speedy delete. CSD G7 Liz Read! Talk! 02:39, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Exuperius negator (bishop) โ Exuperius negator ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Recently created WP:XY redirect resulting from a round-robin move that went poorly. The species name "negator" has nothing to do with the bishop, and the disambiguator (bishop) has nothing to do with the species. Plantdrew (talk) 00:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).
Wikitable
- Wikitable โ Wikipedia:Tables ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]
- Wikipedia Tables โ Wikipedia:Tables ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]
Per 67.70.25.175's suggestion below (I probably would not have nominated these otherwise, but I agree they should be deleted). * Pppery * it has begun... 15:46, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Seriously? A redirect I created however long ago, and which is a one character deviation between the name and the target page, is a huge problem for some people? The Vital One (talk) 15:58, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete both as redirect for the editorship and not the readership, non-reader content in articlespace -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 04:04, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to the dab page at Table, which includes a link to the project page for those who are looking for that while everyone looking for Wikipedia content about some form of table will find a link there. Thryduulf (talk) 10:39, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not opposed to keeping "Wikitable" as is, per Skarmory, but I do still think Wikipedia Tables should be retargetted. Thryduulf (talk) 10:51, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
CommentI made the Wikitable redirect. My thought process was the specific syntax ofwikitable
is shown in countless articles that I would imagine any curious reader would notice. I would have to disagree with 67.70.25.175. I'm surprised there's nothing explicitly pointing the syntax back to WP:TABLES or WP:WIKITABLE. The only example I can think of syntax is infobox, and that brings up its Wikipedia use as well.With that said, Thryduulf's suggestion seems like the best fit.โ The Grid (talk) 13:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Second thoughts striked out. Keep for
wikitable
and delete forWikipedia Tables
. I want to also note for the closer that I'm the creator of thewikitable
redirect. โ The Grid (talk) 15:36, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Second thoughts striked out. Keep for
- I think retargeting to Wikitable to Table is frankly pointless. I can maybe see the argument for Wikipedia Tables, but all we're doing for Wikitable is redirecting people to a DAB page where there is one applicable link, and there's no expectation for a new applicable link to show up any time soon. What's the point of doing that, other than to avoid an XNR because XNRs are bad? Nobody searching Wikitable is going to be looking for any item on that DAB page other than Wikipedia:Tables, unless I'm missing something. Assuming I'm not missing something, there is zero benefit gained by routing us through mainspace to reach the only target someone searching Wikitable will want. I lean towards keeping over deleting per The Grid and because I think this XNR is a net positive (it doesn't show up in search results for a while, at least right now, so it's not going to be particularly obstructive). Wikipedia Tables I'm ambivalent about, and I don't really care much what happens to it โ I can see the arguments for keeping, retargeting to Table, or deleting. Skarmory (talk โข contribs) 21:02, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Wikitable, there being no other plausible target per Skarmory. The other one can be deleted. This, that and the other (talk) 22:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 17:22, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete all: the mainspace and the rest of WP should be kept separated. Veverve (talk) 21:58, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep both Wikipedia Tables is literally a one character typo off from the intended target. While it is a substantial technical difference; choosing automated process ease and strict adherence to policy what appears to be disregard for newer user's experience is a set of reasoning which will have long term negate consequences for wikipedia. If appropriate mainspace retargets can be identified (and cross-namespace links placed if necessarry), that would be acceptable. I was leaning towards deleting Wikitable, but the creator made what I feel is a strong argument for its retention. Again, redirecting would be an acceptable alternative. I encourage an anchor be put at the relevant entry on the disambig. - Darker Dreams (talk) 05:59, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete these cross-namespace redirects which are either errors, or are not required. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:12, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep, strong oppose retargeting 1st, delete 2nd: Oh boy, how I love XNRs. Lacking guidance, I think the first is plausible enough with nowhere else to target. Strong oppose retargeting as this is the only mention. The 2nd one is miscapitalized and not plausible enough for a CNR. Clyde [trout needed] 23:26, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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List of administrators
- List of administrators โ Wikipedia:List of administrators ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- List of admins โ Wikipedia:List of administrators ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]
This search term is not exclusive to Wikipedia. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:46, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk ยท contribs (Talkback) 19:53, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Delete per nom.โCopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 23:13, 1 October 2023 (UTC)- Delete per nom, too much Wikipedia bias -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 04:06, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Category:Administrators, which provides a list of administrators in general (outside of Wikipedia). Duckmather (talk) 18:14, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - Especially on this topic and for this title, I suggest it may be worthwhile to discuss alternatives to deletion? As a cross namespace redirect, this may be one of, if not the most "sought-out" list located in the Wikipedia space that would be searched for deliberately by new users and/or people unfamiliar with the WP namespace convention. Even though the title doesn't include any additional qualifier before or after the word "administrators", which might make this be technically considered vague, searching for this term ON Wikipedia I feel makes it abundantly clear what is being looked for. (This could possibly be WP:COMMONSENSE, although it could also very well be my own personal bias / experiences). Both of the two redirects have averaged a noticeable 10 views a month after being around for 8 years. Sure, this may be a towards-Wikipedia bias, but at the very least this appears to be a title that will be searched and therefore it seems to be worth it to at least accommodate for the views, as there can very well be a topic here.
- All this being said, yes. This terminology is not specifically exclusive to Wikipedia. There are many articles that detail lists of various administrators... so, a set index article consisting of lists of administrators could possibly accommodate the different types of admins? Alternatively, targeting the category for Category:Administrators itself per Duckmather also seems very doable for this title, (which also handily includes a link to Category:Wikipedia Administrators). In any situation though, it feels strange to me to remove the existence of this search term, as it serves a lot of good use in my eyes in regards to being a cross-namespace redirect, and one of the better examples of what types of XNRs would be most helpful, even if the title isn't as specific as it could technically be. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Don't delete I agree with Utopes that this is a search term that inexperienced users who are looking for a list of Wikipedia administrators will use, and as such it should be a blue link that leads to somewhere with a clear link to that. Whether that is the present target or some other page (e.g. a set index the category) with a hatnote to the present target I'm not sure, but outright deletion is definitely the wrong action here. Thryduulf (talk) 10:35, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Category:Administrators and add a big bold message pointing to WP:Administrators (or some better place). That's the best we can offer without going too out of line. J947 โ edits 10:40, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think a set index would be ideal here, though I'm not sure how practical it is. For now, I agree with Utopes that having some way to get to Wikipedia admins is probably useful, and deletion makes that difficult, so the category is probably the best target for now. Skarmory (talk โข contribs) 18:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Strong oppose retain as major Wikipedia bias. I do suppose that a soft redirect to Category:Administrators would be fine for now, but I do not support a "big bold message" at the top; a simple hatnote would do. I'm leaning toward a list of lists similar to Lists of presidents at some point. โCopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 22:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete unlike Three revert rule the word "administrator" isn't a Wikipedia specific term, that said I agree it may be useful. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:17, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to administrator. Admins redirects to this DAB. There is a hatnote for the Wikipedia admins and provides a list of various types of admins which removes the Wikipedia bias. โ The Grid (talk) 13:55, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Category:Administrators; there is nothing relevant at the Administrator disambiguation page, but a category page can be used as a list as it lists the category members, and there is not a list article. Peter James (talk) 18:22, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Category:Administrators per above --Lenticel (talk) 01:05, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Category:Administrators or to Administrator and add hatnote or other navigational aid. - Darker Dreams (talk) 06:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete all. These WP:CNR are ambiguous and not required. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:15, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Very weak retarget, strong oppose keeping: A CNR to catspace seems like the least evil here. Administrator is not unique to WP, and Administrator contains nothing useful. Clyde [trout needed] 23:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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MediaZilla
- MediaZilla โ Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]
- Mediazilla โ Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]
It hasn't been called "MediaZilla" in over a decade. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:46, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- It was never called "mediazilla", this was only a nickname. Keep per WP:RECENTISM and there being no other plausible target (until the media software company becomes notable) but delete as an obscure cross namespace redirect. Take your pick... This, that and the other (talk) 22:04, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like there's an existing website and app with the same name. (which a WP:SPA with the same name tried to change on the MediaZilla redirect) If those aren't notable, I would agree with keep per This, that and the other. โ The Grid (talk) 14:05, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete all: the mainspace and the rest of WP should be kept separated. Veverve (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep without prejudice to retargeting or building a page if needed. - Darker Dreams (talk) 06:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete these unnecessary WP:CNRs. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:16, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete: Not plausible enough for a CNR imo. Clyde [trout needed] 23:35, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete as unnecessary CNR --Lenticel (talk) 01:07, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Egafd
- Egafd โ Template:EGAFD actress ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
Mainspace -> template cross-namespace redirects can sometimes make sense if they are reader-facing templates or exceptionally common ones like Cite journal. This is none of those. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:04, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 07:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete seems to be an acronym for European Girls Adult Film Database which was deleted in an AfD. --Lenticel (talk) 08:08, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Either delete and also delete EGAFD, or retarget to Pornography in Europe consistent with EGAFD. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Pornographic film actor lists the European Girls Adult Film Database in the external links, but Pornography in Europe does not mention it at all. So both should retarget to Pornographic film actor if kept -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 12:04, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- I added the external link to Pornography in Europe. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:38, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Pornography in Europe. - Darker Dreams (talk) 06:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Dora the Explora
- Dora the Explora โ Dora the Explorer ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Dora the explora โ Dora the Explorer ย (talkย ยท linksย ยท historyย ยท stats)ย ย ย ย ย [ย Closure:ย keep/retarget/deleteย ]ย
- Bundling the lowercase version. Mdewman6 (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Retarget, people who search for "Dora the Explora" are more likely to be looking for the Pink Guy song. Also, having a hatnote that leads to an album where many of the songs are about sex on an article that is probably frequently viewed by children may be contentious. 108.21.221.8 (talk) 11:53, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The proper hatnote at Dora the Explorer is to Dora the Explorer (disambiguation), where the song is listed, so the hatnote isn't an issue. Mdewman6 (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Mdweman6. Hatnote isn't an issue, and it points to the DAB page where the song is listed. CycloneYoris talk! 00:25, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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