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:::::::Absolutely. I've asked ResearchEditor politely to discuss his preocupations only in his user talk page (or presenting his complaint in ArbCom). —[[User:Cesar Tort|Cesar Tort]] 14:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
:::::::Absolutely. I've asked ResearchEditor politely to discuss his preocupations only in his user talk page (or presenting his complaint in ArbCom). —[[User:Cesar Tort|Cesar Tort]] 14:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
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(undent) However, you did not simply close a discussion. You implemented a ban and later added the condition of closely related pages. See below - |
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"Per the consensus below and as noted at WP:RESTRICT, ResearchEditor is banned from Satanic ritual abuse, closely related articles, and their respective talkpages... there is no consensus for any other editing restrictions. With the time frame of the restrictions not being discussed, I am implementing the ban for Moreschi's suggested duration of six months. east718 // talk // email // 12:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC) |
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In my opinion, the substance of the dispute should have been understood by anyone implementing a ban on my editing. [[User:ResearchEditor|ResearchEditor]] ([[User talk:ResearchEditor|talk]]) 22:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== Of possible interest == |
== Of possible interest == |
Revision as of 22:17, 22 August 2008
Question
Hello, it appears you deleted the original image I posted on wikipedia - biogas pipes. I wanted to know why? its a good quality image that I took personally and it looks good on the anaerobic digestion page--Alex Marshall (talk) 15:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, and apologies for the delay. The image wasn't actually deleted, but moved to Wikimedia Commons. Now, every project can use it, instead of just the English Wikipedia. Thanks for contributing high-quality free photos! east718 // talk // email // 23:40, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ahhh I understand now, it confused me at first! --Alex Marshall (talk) 08:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Rfb question
I've posted my answer to your remaining question. Sorry it took so long, but it's been a crazy week for me as you can imagine. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:12, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
grawp hunting...
I was bored at work and clicked on the "recent changes" link... Nearly half of those were you in a grawp fighting spree. Great effort, keep it up!! May grawp yiff in hell... (wait, nevermind) Lucifer (talk) 20:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
RfB Thank You spam
Thank you for participating in my RfB! I am very grateful for the confidence of the community shown at my RfB, which passed by a count of 154/7/2 (95.65%). I have read every word of the RfB and taken it all to heart. I truly appreciate everyone's input: supports, opposes, neutrals, and comments. Of course, I plan to conduct my cratship in service of the community. If you have any advice, questions, concerns, or need help, please let me know. Again, Thanks! — Rlevse • Talk • 08:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC) | |
Image:Acadian Ambulance Service Logo.png
Please restore Image:Acadian Ambulance Service Logo.png and add {{logo fur}}
to it. Thank you. I didn't know that it was going to be deleted until after it had been deleted. Thank you. The image belongs in Acadian Ambulance. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 01:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I undeleted and FUR'd it. MBisanz talk 14:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Article idea for Diplomatic missions in Houston
After reading Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of foreign consulates in Oklahoma City, I would like some advice. I want to start an article about the diplomatic missions in Houston that lists consulate generals and their equivalents (Taipei TECO), but does NOT list honorary consulates. What else should I add to this article in order to make it worthy of Wikipedia? Surely someone wrote a history of diplomatic missions in Houston somewhere.
I might start it soon, but it would not strictly be a list. It would also contain general information too. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like you found one of my first AFD closes. :-) I'm not too knowledgeable about the topic so I can't judge the article's suitability, but if you're not listing the less notable honorary consulates, I guess it'll be OK. Just gamble and see if it survives article-space! east718 // talk // email // 23:42, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
My IP Address is Blocked
Why is my IP address blocked from editing? Benbenbenben (talk) 02:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, you were most likely logged out. If you log in, you won't find yourself the accidental target of IP blocks. east718 // talk // email // 23:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
User:Mitrebox/AdultSwim
Back in February you blocked User:Mitrebox with the summary "until assurances are made that malicious bots will not be used". Mitrebox, frustrated with the situation, evaded his block with some additional accounts. The latest account, User:AdultSwim, is asking that this block be reviewed. See WP:AN#AdultSwim is asking for a review of his block. His socking has been to evade blocks, and never to support himself in a discussion or to edit war. The indef. blocks he's received were given simply because he was blocked as Mitrebox. I think it would help the situation if you could review the original block, see if Mitrebox/AdultSwim/Lemmey have given you enough assurance regarding malicious bots. This original block is pretty much the only reason he's blocked now. -- Ned Scott 06:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Ned, and sorry for taking so long to get back to you, but I'm on break. I do think Mitrebox should be unblocked for a variety of reasons, but I also think that the community is rightfully a little raw over the constant block evasion. If Mitrebox can stay away for a couple weeks, I'll be willing to campaign for an unblock. - east 91.198.174.201 (talk) 04:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Images on common
I saw that you delete 'Image:LGen Andrew McNaughton, 1942.jpg' from english wikipedia because image was on commons. I import this image on commons because the license allow it and I have to use it on my french traductions. Could you please delete 'Image:H.D.G. Crerar.jpg' and 'Image:General Guy G Simonds.jpg' from english wikipedia for same reasons. If you could not do it, please explain what I have to do to delete it. How can I delete images imported to commons by myself? Thanks for your answers. --Beepertemp (talk) 00:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Could you please help me or suggest me an other helper for this task? Salam aleikoum --Beeper (talk) 06:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Done. east718 // talk // email // 23:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks --Beeper (talk) 07:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Done. east718 // talk // email // 23:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
71.107 unblocks
Those are all IPs used by banned User:JarlaxleArtemis a/k/a Grawp. He acknowleged that the 0/18 range was his range here (look at the link and remove the Q, since the site is blacklisted. Judging from the contributions, the separate IPs have never been used by anyone but Jarl/Grawp (I did get *one* email from a blocked registered user, and promptly unblocked him). Immediately after you unblocked the ranges, we started getting tons of Grawp pagemoves (check the move log for August 4). I would like to reprotect these IPs unless you can give me a really good reason not to. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 03:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, Nawlin. That /18 range is currently hardblocked as part of an even bigger range (71.107.128.0/17). I've also title-blacklisted all the user talk pages in that range to prevent the edit summary vandalism that Grawp was using to trick administators into softblocking individual IPsion that range (which he'd then use accouts from). Also, those other 71.107 and 71.108 IPs you've been blocking aren't static: they're actually part of a very dynamic Verizon DSL range for SoCal. I hope you don't mind the lack of discussion on my part, but I know you are very busy administrator, and didn't want to bother you with the nuances of network engineering. :) - east 91.198.174.201 (talk) 04:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like you've got it under control. Thanks! NawlinWiki (talk) 04:20, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
718smiley.png
Was this based on something or is it 100% original? Because I see this smiley or one very much like it everywhere now. http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/imagestore/2008/7/24/d87abb00-2532-4a86-86ee-91380f6d01c1.jpg for example. --Random832 (contribs) 14:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's one of my pics from SA from a while ago. Anyway, I tried to get the damn thing deleted, but Commons wouldn't have it. east718 // talk // email // 23:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Deleted Image (Image:Maya & Miguel logo.png)
I am writing to appeal the deletion of this image under CSD-I6. I am aware that it was unjustified under FURG, but I have experience dealing with FUR objects and preparing FUR's. Would you please be kind enough to undelete the image and allow me the opportunity to assemble a Valid FUR for this picture. Thanks. Thor Malmjursson (talk) 17:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- I've restored the image (but left the I6 tag on). Please add a fair use rationale soon, and remove the tag when done or it will risk being speedy deleted again (East asked if I would deal with this for him). VegaDark (talk) 18:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks VegaDark - I will get that done now. Thor Malmjursson (talk) 19:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi East,
I noticed that you deleted Image:Ringleader.jpg because it was a non-free image not in use for seven days. The article on which it was previously used has been recreated. Would you mind restoring the image?
Thank you,
Neelix (talk) 21:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
History of Georgia article
Can you please help the article page of History of Georgia (previous article, before it became disambiguation page) → History of Georgia (country) (current article). I moved the current article nearly three years ago. Can you please cut and paste of the merge history of previous article to the current article without the talk page.
Sorry, my internet connection is on and off. --ApprenticeFan (talk) 00:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi! I've completed the history split and merge for the article, but left the talkpage alone because of the insignificance of attribution wrt it. east718 // talk // email // 23:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
William Hanna FAC preps
I've taken this article from this to this, in preps for filing it for FAC. I could use some help now with:
- finding a free image of Hanna
- some good copyediting
- expanding the lead
- and when that's done I'll unlink the repetitive links (things can change during ce, so I don't want to do now), then file for FAC.
Any help is greatly appreciated. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
One of your AfD closes has been mentioned at WT:AFD
Hello East718. Your name was mentioned in this thread. You could take a look there if you want. EdJohnston (talk) 18:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Second Annual WikiNYC Picnic
Greetings! You are invited to attend the second annual New York picnic on August 24! This year, it will be taking place in the Long Meadow of Prospect Park in Brooklyn. If you plan on coming, please sign up and be sure to bring something! Please be sure to come!
You have received this automated delivery because your name was on the invite list. BrownBot (talk) 20:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
718 bot error
The bot is apparently looking for the substring "class=", which caused it to make this erroneous edit. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hey Tito, I've unblocked the bot and am cleaning up the mess.
- Cool. I was about to point out that it screwed up this edit as well. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Note from your ol' pal Libsy
Hey how are ya? Noticed your AGF on the 3RR report on Be Black Hole Sun. Did you notice he rv'd the page (his 5th for the day) after receiving his 3RR warning? Five previous blocks for 3RR, and generally just being a d*nk, in the past he is an editor who shouldn't have to be warned... I think anyways. But then again I am just an old Wiki-hardass. He has received umpteen WP:CIVIL warnings too. If the concern posted in the 3RR report is valid then he used his floating IP range to do another rv as well... also after receiving his 3RR warning. Can you do an old mate a favour and re-visit the last few days history on the page. BBHS has been editing warring with other people besides that old f*rt Wiki libs. :-). I think he needs an old fashion Goodfellas b*ll-busting if you ask me. But, then again I think 90% of Wiki editors could use that treatment every now and then :D. Have a nice day! Libsy 156.34.142.110 (talk) 00:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, Libs. If BBHS isn't edit warring anymore, there's really nothing that can be done... a warning would also be useless as they presumably already know 3RR (their previous blocks are testimony to that). I do agree though that any more edit warring will lead to some Casino-style disciplinary action being taken... but I will just have to wait and watch. :D Also, if you want to check out the IP angle, I'm sure you know about WP:RFCU. Don't be a stranger! east718 // talk // email // 01:06, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- I may be strange but I am never a stranger. PS. BBHS has done at least three more rv's since my last post. All to revert back to his personal version of the page. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 13:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
79 hours? Hmmm? Which wiseguy movie is that? :-D Appreciate your intervention on that article. I have watched it go back and forth for several days and did not want to get involved. As a word of some support. Be Black Hole Sun invited me to partake in the WikiProject Rock music. I have found him to be confrontational but also very productive. Can I request, on his behalf, that he be allowed to return sooner. If I offer to try and offer him etiquette and policy assistance I have some AGF that he will learn from his past mistakes. Feel free to contact me on my talk page for discussion. Cheers and take care. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 14:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think the easiest way for BBHS to get unblocked immediately would be to promise to stay away from the article in question; unfortunately, his last two requests have been mildly hostile and uncompromising. east718 // talk // email // 15:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Understood. Actually I looked back on his talk page history. His negative edit attitude goes back further than I thought. My own first meeting with the user was to report him to ANI. But after that was resolved he did come back with a friendlier tone to me. Maybe he just chooses to be tactful when it suits his needs? Again, thanks for taking the time with the article overview. After Be Black Hole Sun cools down for a few days I will approach him and see if he will accept my assistance. Cheers! 67.103.105.208 (talk) 15:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC) Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 15:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
VengeancePrime
Just noticed your note and block on User talk:VengeancePrime. Was there an RFCU or any other discussion? Not that I mind either way, but apparently, the account was blocked on a false alarm before. user:Everyme 01:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, Everyme! There was no on-wiki RFCU, but I ran it past two different checkusers. You'll have to ask Matt about the "false alarm" before; I don't really share notes with him or anything. east718 // talk // email // 01:20, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Nevermind, just wondered when I saw the previous block and subsequent unblock. user:Everyme 01:22, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
User:VengeancePrime -- vigilanceprime
has appealed to me for advice/perspective regarding his block as a sockpuppet. Of course, he denies any involvement and says he has not edited any "pedophilia" elated topics. I did see where he edited 1993 something or other about Michael Jackson. Musta forgotten that one.
I've had previous involvement with this user stemming from his deletion tagging and AFD proposing. I have had trouble following his reasoning on occasion, but had not figured him for a ban evader. He had my sympathy until he laid on the praise mixed with the "don't get involved for your own good stuff." If you could just bring me up to speed so I can stop thinking about, I'd appreciate it. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 14:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK, begging pardon if I'm missing something really big (general fatigue would probably be to blame for that), but what exactly are you asking of me? If it's the relevant evidence, VengeancePrime was brought to my attention earlier, and I had them checked against VigilancePrime on a gut feeling. I believe in second chances and was hesitant to block them until troublesome edits like the ones at promise ring popped up. Most confusedly yours, east718 // talk // email // 14:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Any confusion is more likely due to my fatigue then anyone else's. My brain is definitely in low gear. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 15:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Got your email - I'll reply to you soon. east718 // talk // email // 15:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Any confusion is more likely due to my fatigue then anyone else's. My brain is definitely in low gear. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 15:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
You might discuss this with Morven. I'd exchanged a couple of e-mails with him on the subject not too long ago, and he was of the opinion that the two were not connected. Avruch T 18:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- A couple days ago, I sent arbcom-L a very long email concerning this and other recent developments regarding pro-pedophile activism; Morven is presumably a member on that list. east718 // talk // email // 01:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
User:ResearchEditor topic ban
You closed the discussion at WP:AN and implemented a topic ban on Research editor for only the Satanic ritual abuse article and its talk page. I note, however, that Moreschi was proposing to ban Research Editor from related topics as well. It seems to me that this part of the proposal had consensus as well. Are you sure there was no consensus for a broader ban? I note that Research editor is still, apparently, continuing his behavior at related pages; see WP:AN#ResearchEditor still pushing. Mangojuicetalk 14:49, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I just read that thread again and can't proffer a single excuse as to why I missed that little detail... I've amended the ban to reflect the correct outcome of that discussion. east718 // talk // email // 15:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for the prompt attention! Mangojuicetalk 17:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I believe that it is unfair to extend the ban to additional pages. I did not even have a chance to defend myself regarding this allegation. I believe that Treating Abuse Today is a reliable source. Many respected researchers have published there. See here. To extend the ban because of an edit I made at McMartin around this edit is unfair, especially without giving me a chance to defend my actions at the other pages. ResearchEditor (talk) 03:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- You may, or may not, be interested in my reply, and the fact that Treating Abuse Today has been dealt with before. WLU (talk) 12:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- I believe that it is unfair to extend the ban to additional pages. I did not even have a chance to defend myself regarding this allegation. I believe that Treating Abuse Today is a reliable source. Many respected researchers have published there. See here. To extend the ban because of an edit I made at McMartin around this edit is unfair, especially without giving me a chance to defend my actions at the other pages. ResearchEditor (talk) 03:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- I have read both discussions mentioned above. Your opinion in the first discussion is only one opinion. Others in the second discussion disagreed with you and felt that TAT was a reliable source. Even if it wasn't, one edit is not proof that there was any edit warring or problem at the McMartin page. The extension of the ban to other pages was not fair and had no factual backing. ResearchEditor (talk) 04:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Guys, I'm pretty uninterested in the actual substance of the dispute - all I did was close a discussion. If you have a problem with my closing we can discuss that, but any actions that may be taken as a result of my closing and ban implementation are remanded to the administrative corps at large and should be discussed with the community. east718 // talk // email // 05:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- I have read both discussions mentioned above. Your opinion in the first discussion is only one opinion. Others in the second discussion disagreed with you and felt that TAT was a reliable source. Even if it wasn't, one edit is not proof that there was any edit warring or problem at the McMartin page. The extension of the ban to other pages was not fair and had no factual backing. ResearchEditor (talk) 04:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Absolutely. I've asked ResearchEditor politely to discuss his preocupations only in his user talk page (or presenting his complaint in ArbCom). —Cesar Tort 14:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
(undent) However, you did not simply close a discussion. You implemented a ban and later added the condition of closely related pages. See below -
"Per the consensus below and as noted at WP:RESTRICT, ResearchEditor is banned from Satanic ritual abuse, closely related articles, and their respective talkpages... there is no consensus for any other editing restrictions. With the time frame of the restrictions not being discussed, I am implementing the ban for Moreschi's suggested duration of six months. east718 // talk // email // 12:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion, the substance of the dispute should have been understood by anyone implementing a ban on my editing. ResearchEditor (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Of possible interest
This may be a cross wiki issue if I'm correct! Cheers --Herby talk thyme 15:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Could you please email/PM me those deleted contributions so I can spot this botnet better? :] With regards to that other cross wiki issue I wanted to talk to you about... I've been helping Kanonkas recently with detecting proxies/anonymizers/zombies and botnets, reading scan results, etc. and advised him to block the AS36351 /16 route... I didn't realize that Commons doesn't have the blockexempt flag though, and inadvertently gave him bad advice. Please heap all abuse on me... :D I've now instructed Kanonkas to seek CU advice when considering blocks of large ranges. east718 // talk // email // 15:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, thanks for the help east. Regards, --Kanonkas : Talk 18:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Deleted Image
I saw that you deleted the image Kazakhs.gif. I'm not sure of the exact reason, but it was a very useful and accurate image. I wish you had notified WikiProject Central Asia, instead of simply removing it. We could have found the image's source, and if need be created a new map which would met copyright requirements. As an admin, is there any way you may recover this image (or is it on commons somewhere) so that the good, accurate information this image provided might still be saved? Otebig (talk) 18:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, I've uploaded the image here temporarily. The image was uploaded by somebody with a questionable history when it came to licensing, and there was no indication as to the source of the image. If you can track down the original and confirm its license, I've got no problem with you reuploading it - of course, creating a new map from scratch would be much appreciated! Thanks, east718 // talk // email // 01:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Re-created AfD article
This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so I'm not sure of the protocol. I noticed that an AfD that you closed with a result of "Redirect" was subsequently undone. Since that time there's been some editing (all by the user who undid your redirect), but all the article editing in the world won't make this group any more notable, and that was the reason for the AfD. Cmadler (talk) 19:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'd look the other way if the new article was better, but it's the exact same thing! I've restored the redirect for now. east718 // talk // email // 01:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
TKD
The whole thing (for better or worse and including the RfC on JJL) seems to have gone quiet, and be back to the usual removing spam links, Thanks for the offer of help but it seem everyone has got board of circular arguments (at last..). --Nate1481(t/c) 13:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Cool (sorry about the boredom though). If things flare up again with the Japan-Korea nonsense, just let me know. east718 // talk // email // 05:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The World Ends With You image
Why did you delete this? Just yesterday I put the image back up (after another user had removed it to replace it with a duplicate image he had uploaded). So it had only been a few hours. If anything, the other image should have been deleted for being a duplicate. This is one of the downfalls to currently only having access to Wikipedia for about an hour a day and for 4 days. Take a look at the images and I think you will agree. TJ Spyke 16:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like a technical glitch - when editing during peak hours, sometimes the "file links" counter on the image's page won't update for a while (see Help:Job queue for the nitty-gritty). I've restored the image and removed the orphaned tag from it. east718 // talk // email // 01:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
good attempt!
Your offer to unblock the $20 professor is a sign of good customer service. I am willing to discuss with him about the $20 edits. I come totally unbiased as I have not looked at the $20 edits. May I suggest that he will be allowed completely free editing if he discusses the $20 edits with me first and comes to an agreement with me? I have much incentive to have him not edit poorly about the $20 bill because I don't want to have egg on my face. It would also eliminate any feeling that the Wikipedia establishment is trying to muzzle him.
I do have a disclaimer to make. Two of my articles are about professors. One of them a psychology professor and the other one a history professor. I do not worship professors but some of them have good ideas, particularly Professor Shanteau and Professor Sealander. 903M (talk) 03:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Your posting on that talkpage is manifestly unhelpful. I don't care who you are, but please go back to your main account. east718 // talk // email // 05:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
This is my main account. I have consulted with a senior person in Wikipedia (senior person, please refrain from commenting here at this time) notified that person that this is my only account as the other account is retired. Don't ask me if it was because the other account edited porn articles. I'll let you take over the matter with the $20 professor. If you think a person other than you should do day to day supervision, I am happy to do it. Good luck. 903M (talk) 05:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Socks
On Sunday you blocked User:Be Black Hole Sun for 79 hours. Today, with many hours still remaining on his block, Be Black Hole Sun made an IP revert here whilest stillest insidest his 79 hour block. Me thinks that is not proper. Sayest you??? Libs (talk) 15:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- On it. east718 // talk // email // 05:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Homer
Oh dude, once again I can only marvel at the things you make MediaWiki do. However, I noticed Homer's nose is displayed as a square, at least for me. user:Everyme 16:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
SOCKS
Hey east, I was wondering if you could help me with SOCKS & such things, thank you. Regards, --Kanonkas : Talk 17:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)