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==[[J. Milton Dyer]]==
==[[J. Milton Dyer]]==
Nyttend, just the man I was looking for! Hey I just added your [[Tavern Club]] photo to the above article. I need more photos though, and help figuring out which buildings are which and what they're called now and if they have articles or photos. Let me know if you want to help. :) [[User:ChildofMidnight|ChildofMidnight]] ([[User talk:ChildofMidnight|talk]]) 01:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Nyttend, just the man I was looking for! Hey I just added your [[Tavern Club]] photo to the above article. I need more photos though, and help figuring out which buildings are which and what they're called now and if they have articles or photos. Let me know if you want to help. :) [[User:ChildofMidnight|ChildofMidnight]] ([[User talk:ChildofMidnight|talk]]) 01:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:Oh wait, nevermind. I see there's a whole category at Wikipedia Commons. I thought I checked, but maybe I spelled it wrong (I keep trying to insert a W). Do you want to dig up some photos for the other Ohio architects I've been working on? [[User:ChildofMidnight|ChildofMidnight]] ([[User talk:ChildofMidnight|talk]]) 02:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

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New MD NRHP template

Hi Nyttend: I've created Template:National Register of Historic Places in Maryland to include on the various MD county / Baltimore NRHP lists. I see you recently created the template Template:Maryland NRHP topnav. Would youu have any objection to my adding the map coordinates and date for lists sections from your template back into the NRHP list and replacing the existing NRHP template with mine at the bottom of the pages? This way the MD lists will match those in PA and NY. For an example, see National Register of Historic Places listings in Tioga County, Pennsylvania.--Pubdog (talk) 16:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rosamond Bernier article (deleted without discussion)

Dear Nyttend, Not so long ago I stumbled across an already extant-stub article about Rosamond Bernier and had begun expanding it. I had not yet been able to work on the career section, due to the holiday season and personal illness, so when I returned to begin work on it again today, it appeared to have been speedy-deleted without recourse to discussion mere days ago, shortly before you went on holiday. Would you please send me a copy of the article you deemed deletable? I would like to improve it, as I had planned, with a large section re her distinguished career as a publisher and founder of the art magazine L'Oeil, as well as other career highlights. I had only managed to work on her background and marriages before the article was deleted as being without merit. Many thanks.72.43.213.227 (talk) 16:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll recreate it in a user subpage, once I know where to do it. I see in the article history that User:Camgenea edited the article twice: are you Camgenea? If so, I'll create it as a subpage there; if not, tell me and I'll see what we can do. Nyttend (talk) 01:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnegat Light

Welcome back -- no rush with this, you'll have a lot of photos to upload.

When you get settled in, would you please move Barnegat Lighthouse to Barnegat Light, the official USCG name? I can't do it because there's a dab page at Barnegat Light, with only two entries, the lighthouse, and Barnegat Light, New Jersey, the town which is named after the light. (I tried by blanking the dab page, but as I suspected, the system is smarter than that.)

I've taken care of dab with an {{about}} in both places. I'll repipe the entry in the county NRHP list after the move. Thanks, . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talkcontribs) 13:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Welcome back - thanks to your suggestion, I wrote NRHP and they fixed the Pending error for the York County bridge. More here. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tonawanda

Hi. I have been repairing incoming links to the dab page Tonawanda, and let me tell you that is a majorly tedious chore, largely because so many people confuse Town of Tonawanda and City of Tonawanda. It does not help that the Wikipedia articles on these two places tend to omit mention of Town and City. I have now posted WP:RM on both articles. --Una Smith (talk) 18:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi --- thanks for attempting to educate Ms Smith on naming conventions for cities and towns in New York. I've had to now correct the remaining NRHP entries because of this and thanks for taking care of U.S. Post Office (Tonawanda, New York). My home town, by the way,--Pubdog (talk) 02:25, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HABS pics notes

Hey, Nyttend, regarding this diff, technically yes you are right of course that mentions of "HABS pics avail." are not encyclopedic. However it is convenient to mark them there in the photo column of the list-table, and then to request User:KudzuVine to zip through and put up HABS pics for all of them. I don't want to build a separate cumbersome machinery at the Talk page. This happened very quickly, over just a couple days recently, to identify and add HABS pics at the NRHP list for New London County CT. I did notice, and not mind, your removing one stray leftover note there, where KudzuVine chose not to upload a HABS pic apparently as there was already a different pic, and neither he nor i removed that note. Figuring out which if any HABS pic is available helps build the 'pedia, okay? doncram (talk) 19:22, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To remedy the situation since it bothers you, could you notify KudzuVine that there are HABs pic notes ready to be addressed? I would rather wait until i accumulated a batch of them, like until i had done a good try of going through HABS search on "Fairfield CT" to try to identify matches. It is much more efficient to mark them in the photo column, an available structure, and then for KudzuVine to find and replace those easily by searching the page for text-string "HABS". If i copied the whole list-table to the Talk page and marked "HABS pics avail." within that, that would be awfully cumbersome and make more work for KudzuVine who would have to find them in the Talk page and then lookup specific name over in main page. I hope you will please be a bit flexible on this. Is there some other wording or note or symbol that you would prefer? I need to indicate that a HABS pic is available and in some cases to specify its title, where not obvious that the given HABS pic is the one that is in a given HD. doncram (talk) 19:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added more HABS notes, in order to try to address the whole batch of Fairfield ones quickly, in my way trying to respond positively to you and your concern. And I followed up with KudzuVine, who immediately continued on to do another HABS pic, and presumably was going to continue. Now I see u misunderstand, or think differently, or something, and u erased the notes, interrupting progress that was addressing the notes. I asked u above if you would prefer some different language and u did not answer. I restored the notes, hope you don't mind allowing me and KudzuVine to proceed in developing the List of RHPs in Fairfield article. doncram (talk) 04:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, i got ur new message at my talk page. This split discussion involving assertions of who said what when, is hard to follow. Can we just discuss here, or if u want copy all this to my Talk page and just discuss there. For now, I am copying ur 2 notes there, to here:

I just don't see notes about HABS as belonging in the mainspace: they're strictly for editors and not part of the encyclopedia, so they shouldn't appear there. Why couldn't such a comment simply go on the talk page? Or couldn't you leave Kudzu a note as to which places have pictures available? Nyttend (talk) 19:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I said above that nothing should appear on the page: no wording, no symbols, no anything else. These pages are meant to provide information about these properties, not to give information to editors. Would you like it if you found internal editorial notes in a printed encyclopedia? There's no reason for anything to appear on the main page, especially since we have a talk page where such notes can appear. Nyttend (talk) 04:26, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To respond to your second comment, yes in your original communication u had not suggested a different wording. You did not respond until now, to my immediate followup to yours.

I actually did change what i would have worked on tonight, to spend instead hours of time going through the HABS search screens and comparing the Fairfield list-articles, in order to try to address all the Fairfield stuff in one big batch, more promptly, as a way of responding positively to you. I thot u'd appreciate it being done that way, rather than over several days which was the way i was going to go.

About the current situation, i think u should just let it be, and it will be cleaned up in a short time.

About doing the same or not in other NRHP list-articles, I see positive benefit to the efficient approach i was working with Kudzuvine, which has worked well elsewhere. Do you want to get other opinions? This should not be the cause of a big conflict. I am a bit tetchy due to unrelated matters, by the way, sorry if i have been abrupt here. I would like to work forward positively building, and not be told how not to do something when my way was in fact working fine. Sometimes it seems unavoidable, to be involved in arguing how something should be done, how someone should be acting, but really is this one a case like that for you or me? --doncram (talk) 04:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Nyttend. I wanted to ask for a clarification on your decision to decline the speedy deletion of this article. You mentioned that the article now claims that he's played professionally, which is true, but there is no evidence to support that claim (and it appears to be clearly erroneous - just as similar claims were erroneous in the AfD). Is it enough to require a 2nd AfD that one editor (who has reposted the same article three times following the AfD) claims he has played professionally when it is unverifiable at best? I'm willing to go back to AfD, but it seems a waste. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 04:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I don't see any material changes, but perhaps there were. Jogurney (talk) 21:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pierre Gadoua and requested speedy

Sorry! I didn't explain the speedy request at all well. The name, Pierre Gadoua, does not relate to the new location in any way that I can determine. I will correct some misinformation in the other article to clear that up but the site above has no purpose in the article beyond possibly being a misspelling of the woman's husband, Pierre Gadoys. Could you look at this again? Thanks in advance. --Stormbay (talk) 04:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Courthouse Photos

Hi Nyttend- Hope you had a good vacation! You may have already seen it, but the USDA has a boatload of county courthouse photos at http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Population/Photos/ Many are on the NRHP, and these should all be Federal public domain. Bill Whittaker (talk) 17:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. What about the {{hangon}}, I asked on the talk page for a few minutes to look at references, etc. You deleted while I was working on it..... Is it not OK to assume good faith on the original authors and my part - I was attempting to find info which would allow the article to stay....  ???? Regards, Ariconte (talk) 00:09, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nyttend. You have new messages at Ariconte's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Hello, Nyttend. You have new messages at Ariconte's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Service awards proposal

Master Editor Hello, Nyttend! I noticed you display a service award, and would like to invite you to join the discussion over a proposed revamping of the awards.

If you have any opinions on the proposal, please participate in the discussion. Thanks! — the Man in Question (in question) 18:15, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Indiana War Memiorial plaza

Actually, I didn't take that photo, though it is pretty impressive. I saw it posted on Facebook, and I asked the photographer if I could use it here, and he let me. I don't think the Chase Tower has an observation floor or anything, but I do think it is open. My dad used to work on the 42nd floor, so I would get to go up occasionally. Reywas92Talk 23:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was on Facebook. I gave him all of the information and he agreed to it. I suppose I could try to find him again. (And, technichally per Facebook's policies, you have no control over anything you upload to a public page). Reywas92Talk 23:33, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bridge between East Manchester and Newberry Townships

I saved the PDF and can email it to you if needed. I do not see a box/field labeled "location". The text in the box with the UTM coordinates is "USGS Quad York Haven, UTM's Zone 18, E 3 5 3 5 6 0, N 4 4 3 7 9 9 0". Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:13, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Municipalities field says (wait for it): "East Manchester and Newberry Townships". Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:14, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for clearing that up. I still have not figured out CRGIS or tried too hard. Is the NRHP form for Allegheny River Lock and Dam No. 3 (officially the C.W. Bill Young Lock & Dam) in CRGIS? It was not in ARCH. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:37, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't worry about it - I will try to find it with CRGIS and download it (gives me a good excuse). Travel safely, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:11, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much - it will be useful for Allegheny Islands State Park's history section too. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great find, I have photos of the hotel and the cave that i need to upload though the German photos of the cave are nice- it is also of interest as the source of Penns Creek. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I could work on translating it in user space. Not sure how long it would take, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(out) I have never imported an article before - I have translated a few, but they were from the Translation needed page. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 18:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NHRP CITATION

How would I cite the documents I've obtained from NHRP? Hell In A Bucket (talk) 05:48, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mazwi Nzimande article deleted without discussion

Hi, I only saw the notice that the article would be deleted after it had already been deleted. I think that an argument could be made, based just on the online media coverage (in the US and South Africa) on this person, that there should be more consideration on this article. I had created the stubb and had hope that others would have developed it further.

Your advice on this is appreciated. Thanks

talk —Preceding undated comment added 12:30, 9 January 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks so much. It would be very useful if you could give me the text of the article so that I can work on it further, and address the notability issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sekwanele 2 (talkcontribs) 13:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removing little number (Graphic Lab/Photography workshop)

Hi Nyttend, I take your request at Graphic Lab/Photography workshop, please have a look to the discussion, thank you. Ivan Akira (talk) 02:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

King vs. Chain O' Lakes-King

I'd love to get your opinion on this issue at Talk:Chain O' Lakes-King, Wisconsin. Cheers, --BaronLarf 05:34, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

David Leon Block

Hey, I put the CSD on that article, but i'm having problems finding the template to let the user who created it know, I don't want to be bitey. I was wondering if you could help. Doc Quintana (talk) 03:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno what you are seeing in Google streetview, but the coords for this historic district place it in a wooded area southeast of town (on Google maps and in streetview). I haven't looked in NRIS for the boundaries or area of the HD, but since this particular HD (one of a bunch of NRHP listings in Council Grove) supposedly relates to the stop on the Santa Fe Trail, it stands to reason that it's not in the center of town. --Orlady (talk) 20:16, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, it turns out that it's a National Historic Landmark. --Orlady (talk) 20:35, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're right about the coordinates being wrong. The NHL list and the county NRHP list have two completely different sets of coordinates. The tourist map that I found on the KSHS website shows that HD includes several discrete sites strung out across town. --Orlady (talk) 20:49, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grinnell location reference

I don't understand your concern about the location reference.[1] In my browser, the reference for the location in the References section looks exactly the same for the current version and the previous version:

  1. ^ "US Gazetteer files: 2000 and 1990". United States Census Bureau. 2005-05-03. Retrieved 2008-01-31.

Am I missing something? JonHarder talk 00:15, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, I missed the part that the reference was also for the various areas. It looks like the WikiProject Cities/Guideline was changed based on the much earlier discussion at WikiProject Geographical coordinates,[2] and hasn't been challenged. I do prefer to remove the redundancy and have that information in the infobox. JonHarder talk 01:50, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel E. Krause Stone Barn

I love the new article, and I nominated it for DYK! Great job and a fascinating topic! Royalbroil 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

re: Photo request

Next time you're out photographing NRHP sites in Chester County, could you try for the North Warwick Historic and Archeological District? It consists of Pennsylvania Route 345 and Harmonyville, Bethesda, Hopewell, Piersol, Trythall, and Northside Roads, in Warwick Township near Hopewell Furnace NHS; coords are 40°11′18″N 75°46′8″W / 40.18833°N 75.76889°W / 40.18833; -75.76889. Nyttend (talk) 05:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to, but it will take a minimum of a week - it's a far away from me as anyplace in Chester County. Today was a mess - bridges out, heavy traffic, no parking on dangerous country roads, got lost several times, and I told myself to clean up my plate and remember that this isn't a sprint but a long term project - there must be 1000 NRHP's within 50 miles of Philly! That said, it's #1 or #2 on my list
On the positive side, the old East Fallowfield Bridge is now free of construction debris and I got rid of the old Penndot photo.
Only 12 feet long, but beautiful if you climb down into the ditch to see it. 1826?
Smallbones (talk) 05:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cope's Bridge being address-restricted is hillarious. It's been there since 1807. Somebody probably noticed where it is by now! And it's on Strasburg Road, which more or less follows the Great Minquas Path, an Indian trail that could be called the oldest road in the State (1630s?). Off to bed. Smallbones (talk) 06:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nyttend, just the man I was looking for! Hey I just added your Tavern Club photo to the above article. I need more photos though, and help figuring out which buildings are which and what they're called now and if they have articles or photos. Let me know if you want to help. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wait, nevermind. I see there's a whole category at Wikipedia Commons. I thought I checked, but maybe I spelled it wrong (I keep trying to insert a W). Do you want to dig up some photos for the other Ohio architects I've been working on? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]