Talk:Atlantis

Alan Cameron quote

The quote "It is only in modern times that people have taken the Atlantis story seriously; no one did so in antiquity" is contradicted in the previous paragraph and in the ancient reception section. How come it is still here?Halbared (talk) 13:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Dating of Timaeus

Hi - not necessarily about Atlantis itself, but surely the writing of Timaeus cannot be said for sure to be 360BC? Even if so, should this not be referenced? AJCottrell (talk) 23:04, 23 December 2009 (UTC)AJCottrell

Proclus

Re your Atlantis item.

Proclus/Proklos was NOT a Christian historian, but a Pagan philosopher, a neo-Platonist. 77.250.218.217 (talk) 18:57, 12 January 2010 (UTC) Han Kloosterman.

Technologically advanced?

Weren't Atlantians technollogicaly advanced?--Adam "Purz" Purzynski (talk) 21:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

It's possible. Americans are technologically advanced compared to Haitians.Halbared (talk) 13:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Depends on who you ask. Remember that there were no real Atlanteans, they're mythical. It's a staple of recent depictions that Atlantis was a technologically advanced society; this isn't in Plato, although some features of his account may have inspired the idea of advanced technology. --Akhilleus (talk) 02:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't say so. Some documents say that Plato might of visited Atlantis himself.So,change of thought now?--Adam "Purz" Purzynski (talk) 23:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

What documents? given he never made such a claim himslef?Slatersteven (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Another example is from Otto Muck, an Atlantis searcher, said that the Mayans were colonists of Atlantis, and he used the Mayan calender to pinpoint the exact time of the natural disasters: around noon on June 6th, 8498 BC.--Adam "Purz" Purzynski (talk) 01:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

How could Plato have visited Atlantis, given he lived between 428/427 BC – 348/347 BC ? Just to be as a speculative "fringe" support to Maya "theory"; http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?search_string=turkey&search_type=any&ss=1 Logos5557 (talk) 21:46, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

New Modern Source for 'Further Reading' section

Shirley MacLaine's 2001 book entitled 'The Camino: A Journey of the Spirit gives a detailed account of Atlantis gleaned from vivid past-life experiences she had while on her pilgrimage on the Camino de Santiago.

I realize it's not a 'scientific' account, but we're talking about Atlantis here. Also 1.past-life experiences and 2.Shirley Maclaine's spiritual acumen are documented well enough that I think it deserves mention.

Does this fly with the rest of the wiki folk? Isoughtajam (talk) 01:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Not with me. Dougweller (talk) 16:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Might be a place for it in a mysticism section. But certainly not as fact.Slatersteven (talk) 23:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Atlantis in Mediterranean?

I read somewhere that sometime in the last 10,000 years the Straits of Gibraltar opened an let the ocean flow in, filling a vast valley. So, would it be possible for Atlantis to have been flooded because of that event? 69.255.136.19 (talk) 23:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I believe geologists today think something like that happened, but it was more than 5 million years ago. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

We would need RS to include this in the article.Slatersteven (talk) 13:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.4d3eaceb94e76f30f9e2b75555025c27.3d1&show_article=1 This says 5 million years ago, which would place it outside the interest of this article. I think. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I should have made it clearer, what I meant was that this has anything to do with Atlantis.Slatersteven (talk) 23:29, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Etymology / Origin of the word Atlantis

The etymological explanation of ATLANTIS contradicts the OED, http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=atlantis&searchmode=none and also the Atlantis articles on Wikipedia in other languages. Which one is correct?

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"Recent Times" section

I clicked on the link of that source, and Googled the authors; by the looks of them, they are archaeologists, not geologists, so they lack the necessary qualifications to make an "impossibility" assertion. Besides, the documentary "Life After People" demonstrated to everyone, how easily even an advanced civilization can dissapear without a trace. With volcanoes and the ocean involved, that only increases the likelihood. I need to present everyone with a challenge; what if the people of Atlantis, were black? It would certainly turn racist ideas on their head, if it were true. Also, what if, at the time Atlantis existed, the ancestors of whites were all pathetically primitive? Just throwing it out there; I wonder how white people would react, if what I just said where ever "discovered" in the year, say, 2012. If I'm right, lets see you be full of yourselves then.

67.148.120.84 (talk) 14:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)stardingo747

Professor Willy Ley

In the 1960s the late Prof Ley reviewed the whole of Platos story about Atlantis and decided that it was indeed a poltical allegory and based on Tartessos in spain and the invasion of the Sea People into what is now Levant. He titled his work "View over Atlantis".

The only part that I might disagree about was Tartessos. Plato was an educated Greek and would have been aware of most of the Mediterranean area including the cities. No author starts witha completely blank sheet and the description of circular moats is possibly based on the docks at Carthage.

This was the era before the Punic wars and carthage was a thriving city with trading contacts with Greece.