Talk:Geert Wilders

Early life and career

In Early life and career, we find this:

Anthropologist Lizzy van Leeuwen analyses Wilders' Eastern heritage with the concept of displacedness, and classifies his standpoints as "post-colonial revanchism". This analysis is met with agreement in Indo communities.

I think psychoanalyses should be avoided in a bio, especially by people who've not had Wilders on the couch. //roger.duprat.copenhagen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.184.74.219 (talk) 06:05, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

That section has always seemed strange to me. Is Wilders Indo or was his mother a Dutch woman who lived in Indonesia? - Schrandit (talk) 08:42, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Can any one provide and info on whether or not he is indo? He really doesn't look it to me but what would I know. - Schrandit (talk) 07:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Wilder's mother's mother was apperently Jewish Indonesian. I don't see the relevance, though.

Dyed

Would be interesting if this article, apart from mentioning that the person it's about doesn't have natural blond hair, would also inform about when and why he dyed his black hair blond.VKing (talk) 03:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

A picture of Wilders. http://www.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hpdetijd.nl/images/2009-09/wilders_smoking.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hpdetijd.nl/2009-09-02/de-wilde-haren-jonge-jaren-van-geert-wilders&usg=__cRhDEWhuhL1qX1nKf8pWcsjq3pk=&h=720&w=1280&sz=459&hl=nl&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=ItsJ-GUpEa1epM:&tbnh=149&tbnw=227&prev=/images%3Fq%3DWilders%2Bjongere%2Bjaren%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dnl%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:nl:official%26biw%3D1104%26bih%3D452%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=118&vpy=98&dur=121&hovh=168&hovw=300&tx=175&ty=92&ei=ZK17TKCxMM_14Ab_yuDrBQ&oei=ZK17TKCxMM_14Ab_yuDrBQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=9&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0

He has brown or light brownish hair and not black.Noordin28 (talk) 13:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Indo people

I just removed this categorization, indo people the cat itself is in need of a description so that people know what adding the cat represents. I think he disputes this and the term is considered a bit derogatory, anyway I bring it here for discussion. Off2riorob (talk) 16:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

It says this, Wilders' mother was born in Sukabumi, Indonesia which was then part of Dutch East Indies , it seems to be presented as a simple fact but the attribution in the title is that it is according to some unnamed indies immigrants I can't listen to the talk or whatever it is as it is unaccessible to me. 'http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/geert-wilders-one-us-say-indies-immigrants. Are there other quality citations that support who and where and what his parents were/are? Off2riorob (talk) 16:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

The link saying he is indo is dead. Does anyone have a source? - Schrandit (talk) 08:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Jewish Indonesians or Dutch Jews that lived in Indonesia? - Schrandit (talk) 09:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

You can go to: http://archieven.blogspot.com/2008/03/kwartierstaat-geert-wilders.html Is a part of his genealogy but its in Dutch.

His grandmother was a Dutch Eurasian/mixed-blood from the Dutch East Indies, they were called Indo-Europeans because of their status,background,culture and their Dutch nationality. They were Dutch/Europeans with Asian/Indonesian blood and not Indonesians with Dutch/European blood. Also the grandmother belongs to an old Eurasian family.They had a high social standing unlike ordinary Dutch Eurasians. So,i think its better to use notable than famous: "his wife was of a famous"

Presumably they were Dutch Jews that converted to Catholicism and moved to the Dutch-Indies probably generaties ago(or converted in the Dutch Indies to Catholicism?) This Indo-European or Dutch Eurasian family began/started when a male ancestor of Geert Wilders had a relationship with an Indonesian/Asian woman 6/7 generaties ago.His offspring became Dutch Indo-europeans because he acknowledge them as his own.His children or this Dutch Eurasian family will only marry other Indo-Europeans/Eurasians or Europeans/Dutch. Noordin28 (talk) 13:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Why would you presume that his maternal ancestors were Jews who converted to Catholicism? Looking at the family tree, I can see nothing that looks like Jewish ancestry. His grandmother's maiden name, "Meijer", is a common ethnic Dutch name (the U.S. supermarket Meijer was started by a Dutch immigrant of the same name). "Ording", "Hoolhorst", "Maat", "Koppers", and "Visscher" (his mother's ancestors) are all non-Jewish Dutch names as well. Looking at his father's ancestry, it appears that Wilders' speculation that he was part Jewish isn't on the money either - nothing but non-Jewish Dutch names on that side, too. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Ording was Wilders grandfather,he married his grandmother(Meijer).His grandfather was a non-Jewisch Dutchman from the city Utrecht.The names Hoolhorst,Maat,Koppers are all from his side and not from the Meijers, they are all Dutch names.

The name Meijer is also used by many Jews or of Jewish ancestry.The name Canter Visscher is actually a Frisian name from the Dutch province Friesland.Canter Visscher married Elisabeth Bachet and this Bachet was from the family Goldman.Their daughter(Johanna Maria Canter Visscher) was the mother of the grandmother of Wilders.The Goldman's were orignally Jews from Prussia(Germany)Noordin28 (talk) 20:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Warning: "Anti-Wilders Hyve" calls up to edit Wikipedia

Opponents of Geert Wilders in The Netherlands call up to edit the Wikipedia pages on Geert Wilders and the PVV. See Anti-Wilders hyves. See esp. "Help mee maak de Engelse Wikipedia-artikelen accuraat" (Dutch) --JanDeFietser (talk) 04:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation

From the intro, pronunciation produces this?: Geert Wilders (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈɣeːrt ˈʋɪldərs];
I'd say: why not a voice? Jee. -DePiep (talk) 00:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)