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== Don't attack other's religious beliefs ==
== Don't attack other's religious beliefs ==


On [[Talk:Genesis creation narrative]] you called insulted other's religion by calling part of it a "fairy tale".
On [[Talk:Genesis creation narrative]] you insulted other's religion by calling part of it a "fairy tale".
See [[WP:NPA]]. Here is part of it(emphasis mine):
See [[WP:NPA]]. Here is part of it(emphasis mine):
*"There is no rule that is objective and not open to interpretation on what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are '''never acceptable''':
*"There is no rule that is objective and not open to interpretation on what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are '''never acceptable''': Racial, sexist, homophobic, ageist, '''religious''', political, ethnic, sexual, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities) directed against another contributor. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse."
*Racial, sexist, homophobic, ageist, '''religious''', political, ethnic, sexual, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities) directed against another contributor. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse."

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Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3

Thanks, and a request

Thank you for your help resolving the dispute between Aprock and me on the Ashkenazi intelligence article. It appears to be resolved at this point, but I do have one additional question. The topic of ethnicity and intelligence is a tricky one, and I've noticed that it's a challenging endeavor to find people who place improving the articles in line with policy above promoting their own viewpoints. I'm grateful that the person who responded to my 3O request was someone with a good handle on neutrality and adherence to policy. I'd like to ask: next time I'm in need of someone to mediate a dispute of this nature in this topic area, would you mind if I request your input directly instead of going through the 3O process again?Boothello (talk) 21:18, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. CityOfSilver 21:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You should provide a link to the discussion thread, which is Wikipedia:Ani#Propose community ban, and the editor is User:Noloop. TFD (talk) 00:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Death panel

Thanks for the compliment about the research. I think I've definitely researched the topic well! I guess I'm just waiting for a specific example and argument as to why a part of the article is POV. Until then, it seems there's just this general felling of "Hey! You're not giving equal validity." O well. Thanks. Jesanj (talk) 01:21, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really just about weight. Like I say, I agree with the POV but, for example, "false" or "falsely" occurs every other sentence in the first two paragraphs of the "prelude" subsection. I think the article has gone too far in hammering home the point that "death panel" is, all said and done, a bit of stupid sloganeering. That can be conveyed without taking such a severe tone, I think. --FormerIP (talk) 01:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Maybe it would be good for discussion purposes to bring that up at NPOVN. Each time I've used the word false I think there's a good source that used it or an equivalent. I did ask for a copy-edit to the article recently. Maybe that would help. Jesanj (talk) 01:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Third Opinion Award

The Third Opinion Award The Third Opinion Award
For your opinion today at Talk:Alan Grayson. Very good. — TransporterMan (TALK) 17:22, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yay! Thanks. --FormerIP (talk) 17:26, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback justification

All the Way to Reno (You're Gonna Be a Star) I rolled you back because Yellow River was written by Christie. —Justin (koavf)TCM00:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, my mistake. --FormerIP (talk) 00:54, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You've broken 1RR at Fascism

Hello FormerIP. You've been reported at WP:AN3#User:FormerIP reported by User:Local Panel (Result: ). Please revert yourself at Fascism to avoid sanctions. See Talk:Fascism#The WP:1RR rule is still in effect. You must surely have seen the large editnotice about 1RR which pops up when you hit the 'Edit' button. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You don't get the notice when you are using Twinkle. But thanks for the message. --FormerIP (talk) 03:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like Twinkle needs a new feature. EdJohnston (talk) 03:24, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe so, but it is worth keeping in mind if you are monitoring the article. If someone has "TW" in their edit summary, it may be an innocent and oblivious drive-by. --FormerIP (talk) 03:42, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


But it's the main point and should be cited. WP:COMMONSENSE. Lugnuts (talk) 14:07, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ER

Most of the anon's complaints are a bit beyond 3O on Elizabeth Rauscher, having been discussed extensively by multiple editors: Talk:Elizabeth Rauscher/Archive 1 and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Rauscher (2nd nomination), (e.g. anon's #2 is addressed by consensus here. Then there's the infobox, which anon has gone from one extreme to the other, from adding everything but the kitchen sink to removing all but one element. Anyway, your input is very welcome in addition to what everyone else has been discussing over the past several months. Thanks! Dreadstar 00:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, well I'll try to take all that into account. I haven't looked into it enough yet to no what response I will give, but don't forget that it is non-binding. --FormerIP (talk) 00:37, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

King Jamie

Hi, yes I have just moved the page, because I was asked to (see here User:Brendandh#Would you change title?). If my bad, then apologies. Yet there is consensus for the move, and the discussion has gone on long over time. Brendandh (talk) 14:21, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will though only through gritted teeth. Although, there is consensus for the move, and as I have written above this discussion has gone on longer than normal. This name, numbering and country is a perennial issue with the above monarch, and as a result no consensus has been reached regarding the name, however much a small band of editors suggest that that is the case. The move here is impartial and does no particular 'interested' parties down on their ownership of the memory of the man. Brendandh (talk) 14:54, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I asked Brendandh to move the page since I am not sure how to do it. It was a clear consensus that lasted twice as long as the suggested time and was a fair compromise as the page will clearly show. My apologizes to Brendandh for any discomfort I have caused her and apologizes to you for any confusion I have caused to you. Mugginsx (talk) 18:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, not to worry. --FormerIP (talk) 01:51, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RfC on Astrology

Because you have participated in a related RfC on this article, or have recently contributed to it, you are hereby informed that your input would be highly appreciated on the new RfC here: [[1]]. Thank you! Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 16:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. --FormerIP (talk) 17:25, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia: WikiProject Biography

Howdy FormerIP. Thanks for commenting on my proposals & not attacking me. GoodDay (talk) 02:46, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Albumcaps

I am requesting your further input here (or wherever the discussion may end up).—Ryulong (竜龙) 00:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roald Dahl task force!

Hello, FormerIP, We are wondering if you would like to join the Roald Dahl task force as you have contributed a lot to the articles in our scope. We hope you can join!

Your comment on the Wikiproject Ireland page

I would strongly encourage you to do what you said regarding the rfc, you would get a lot of support from a lot of editors, myself included, especially if it will resolve most/all of the petty disputes that the usual suspects initiate or provoke in which articles would get disrupted in the process. Sheodred (talk) 22:13, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I just noticed you do much of the work on various election articles. You totally deserve this. Cheers Tachfin (talk) 19:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hurrah! Thank you. --FormerIP (talk) 20:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad

If you'd care to check the discussion page, you'd see that this actually does have talk page support, and that a lot of work went into crafting this compromise proposal. For further enquiries, please check with User:Resolute, whose proposal this is. Cheers, --JN466 20:31, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Somatotype and constitutional psychology

Enforcement action taken vs Editor75439 (talk · contribs) banning further editing of said article... I had kind of suspected this would be the eventual result (the admin who did the topic banning commented "It's rarely this straightforward"), but was trying to assume good faith. Thanks for your efforts! Allens (talk) 19:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Thanks (re Somatotype and constitutional psychology) for doing your best - I don't think anyone could have done any better! Allens (talk) 19:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I appreciate it. --FormerIP (talk) 20:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Yep, you work harder than many kittens. Alatari (talk) 02:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. What did I get it for? --FormerIP (talk) 02:47, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Depictions of Muhammad and other original contributions that you tirelessly add. I find it to be a rare person who becomes an major contributor to the body of articles across many subjects and who writes in a concise NPOV voice. There are plenty of deletionists, one-sentence snipers, copy editors and talk page spectators but not enough main stay contributors. So I would like to reward these traits. Alatari (talk) 03:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please see ANI thread. Cheers, --JN466 03:52, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad images Arbitration request

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Muhammad Images and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

Thanks, -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 10:07, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If Arbcom open the case there will be an evidence period lasting at least 10 days or so. You'll have time to make your statements. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but that's only if they open it. --FormerIP (talk) 21:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You've entered into the looking glass on Muhammad issues, FormerIP. Even Jimmy Wales has had made his opinion known during the Everybody Draw Muhammad Day article creation because Pakistan and Indonesia were threatening to block all access to Wikipedia and Pakistan carried through. I would direct you to read the talk pages from there and the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy talk pages. Alatari (talk) 10:15, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Even Jimmy Wales? Wowzers! That must have been something... --FormerIP (talk) 12:25, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying to come up with a template to warn people they are going to encounter images of Muhammad and how to turn off the images on their local computer. Something like this: Template:MuhammadEditNotice place in the Page Notice content of an article with the aforementioned method of turning off browser images on several browsers. Do you remember where that tutorial is? I thought it was on the Depictions of Muhammad talk page but no. This kind of page warning is used on some sex articles so there is a precedent. --Alatari (talk) 05:07, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Email

Hello, FormerIP. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

—nothing urgent, and nothing that needs an answer at half two in the morning; just FYI. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:31, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

Apologies if my comments at AN and ANI yesterday came off as insulting. You are correct—it's not as if there were plans for anything better. Although I'm supportive of the principle, I figured the short time frame would doom that proposal from the start. Regardless, the snarky comments 'exceedingly poor planning' were not warranted. Swarm X 03:35, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. --FormerIP (talk) 11:17, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BLP

WP:BLP applies everywhere in Wikipedia; that includes article Talk: pages. I've redacted your BLP violation from Talk:Eurabia, but please don't do this kind of thing again. Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 08:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll go back later and include the sourcing. --FormerIP (talk) 11:17, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you answer a couple simple questions?

Where was consensus reached? Was there an RfC or was anyone notified of the change? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 03:38, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd prefer to keep it on the talkpage. However, so as to give you an answer, the wording you are objecting to was added by Tryptofish as the result of the discussion in the section headed "compromise". I think you were too quick to revert, though. Tweak, or else explain and discuss. --FormerIP (talk) 03:42, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad images arbitration case

An arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Muhammad images. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Muhammad images/Evidence. Please add your evidence by January 11, 2011, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Muhammad images/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 14:53, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Western Sahara

Hello - As you contributed to the DR noticeboard thread, I think you'd be interested in participating in the RFC about the flag of Western Sahara; see Talk:Flag_of_Western_Sahara Thanks --Tachfin (talk) 17:46, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at some point - it's an RfC so I'm assuming I have time on my side. --FormerIP (talk) 02:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

msg

Hello, FormerIP. You have new messages at Alatari's talk page.
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Use /Evidence

I think you should probably enter the mitigating circumstances and your promise not to repeat certain behaviors not only on Workshop page but on the Evidence page as well. You should probably give a link to the rather tame ANI thread on you. I think JN466 has omitted that. ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 10:56, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

User:ASCIIn2Bme/Mill You're welcome to contribute. I've also left a post that may interest you on Mathsci's talk page. ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 04:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty good job with the list, by the way. ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 05:09, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm not sure I understand the purpose of your sub-page, though. Is it to collect information about book covers? --FormerIP (talk) 01:13, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up

You may wish to take a look at these edits. The anonymous IP is almost certainly the same one whom you reverted here a few weeks ago. Prioryman (talk) 01:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. It looks like someone else has already reverted. --FormerIP (talk) 01:14, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I would like to inform you that the NPOV discussion about the List of oldest universities in continuous operation, to which you participated, was reopened on the NPOVN.

The current discussion is ongoing on Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#The List of oldest universities in continuous operation (again).

Regards,
--Omar-Toons (talk) 09:11, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to everyone who - whatever their opinion - contributed to the discussion about Wikipedia and SOPA. Thank you for being a part of the discussion. Presented by the Wikimedia Foundation.

An arbitration case regarding Muhammad images has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

  1. The community is asked to hold a discussion that will establish a definitive consensus on what images will be included in the article Muhammad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and on where the images will be placed within the article. As with all decisions about content, the policies on verifiability and the neutral point of view must be the most important considerations. The editors who choose to participate in this discussion are asked to form an opinion with an open mind, and to explain their decision clearly. Any editor who disrupts this discussion may be banned from the affected pages by any uninvolved administrator, under the discretionary sanctions authorised in this decision. The decision reached in this discussion will be appended to this case within two months from the close of the case.
  2. Ludwigs2 is prohibited from contributing to any discussion concerning Muhammad.
  3. Ludwigs2 is banned from the English Wikipedia for one year.
  4. Tarc is admonished to behave with appropriate professionalism in his contributions to discussions about disputed article content.
  5. FormerIP is admonished to behave with appropriate professionalism in his contributions to discussions about disputed article content.
  6. Hans Adler is reminded to engage in discussions about disputed article content with an appropriate degree of civility.
  7. Standard discretionary sanctions are authorised for all pages relating to Muhammad, broadly interpreted.
  8. The participants in the dispute about depictions of Muhammad are reminded that editors who engage extensively in an intractable dispute can become frustrated, and that it is important to be aware that as editors we are limited in our ability to contribute constructively to a deadlocked disagreement. Our exasperation with a dispute can make us unprofessional or unreceptive to compromise. We therefore encourage the disputants of this case to consider if their participation in the coming community discussion of depictions of Muhammad would be useful, and we remind them that if they disrupt the community discussion they may be banned from the discussion or otherwise sanctioned under the discretionary sanctions provision of this case.

Mlpearc (powwow) 16:12, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For the Arbitration Committee

File permission problem with File:Frog and saucepan.jpg

Thanks for uploading File:Frog and saucepan.jpg, which you've sourced to James Lee. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license.

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Mediation about the Muhammad images RFC

Just to let you know I've opened a request with the Mediation cabal about the Muhammad images RFC. Please see the mediation request if you want to comment. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 14:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted a number of times on the talk page of this article, and the consensus is for the current status quo. The article went through a period of slo-mo edit-warring (which I think you were party to) but has now settled down., so why have you reverted my edit? Has some new information come to light? JonCTalk 21:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposal to split Jeremy Bamber

Exok objects to the closure of the discussion about whether to split Jeremy Bamber into two articles — one about the murders and one a biography. He has requested that I make a formal proposal to split the articles on the talk page. I'm very sorry to ask this, but it would be appreciated if everyone who commented at the BLPN here could offer their opinion again at Talk:Jeremy_Bamber#Proposal_to_split_this_article_into_a_murders_article_and_a_biography. (Also, for some reason, that link isn't going directly to the subsection, so please scroll up a little to find it.) Many thanks, SlimVirgin TALK|CONTRIBS 21:43, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't attack other's religious beliefs

On Talk:Genesis creation narrative you insulted other's religion by calling part of it a "fairy tale". See WP:NPA. Here is part of it(emphasis mine):

  • "There is no rule that is objective and not open to interpretation on what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are never acceptable: Racial, sexist, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, sexual, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities) directed against another contributor. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse."