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New to Teahouse

Hi Sarah--thanks for inviting me to the Teahouse. I was doing OK with introducing myself until I got to the avatar part, where I thought I'd use an actual photo of myself. Seemed I couldn't upload anything unless I set up a Wikimedia Commons account, so I did that, but it's not like I want to put my picture up for all to see. I did put in a file name after Image: and I clicked on "Save Page," but since my self-introduction hasn't appeared I assume I must have done something wrong. What can you suggest?

BTW, my interests are pretty similar to yours. I'm a retired museum professional interested in American art, specifically historic California art and Anne Bremer, the woman artist I've submitted an article about twice. I used to transcribe oral histories for the Archives of American Art. I might be interested in getting involved in GLAM in some way, or other art-related wiki projects. I live in the SF Bay Area.

Ann Harlow, alias HarZim (talk) 23:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ann! Thank you for coming by my talk page! Welcome to Wikipedia. Perhaps you can link me to the image you were hoping to use? It's good that you created a Commons account, I'm actually very active there. I upload almost all of the images I take there for the world to use! Pretty cool to see images you've taken when traveling or around town illustrating articles on Wikipedia. It's also helpful for uploading public domain images of artworks or people you find, or stumble across.

I'm delighted to know you're a retired museumist! Even cooler that you've transcribed oral history for AAA - I've probably read a few of your transcriptions and perhaps even used them in articles. I will be moving to the Bay Area in June, actually. Related to that - I'd be delighted to meet if you ever did desire to do so, and I'm also co-planning a bi-monthly women's edit-a-thon event at the Wikimedia Foundation headquarters in San Francisco. The next one will be June 16 at the Foundation, I'll be sure to share information with you when we announce it. You're welcome to message me here, or email me if you wish (just see the Email this User button on the left side of the menu). Thanks again for coming by, I'm so glad you're here! Sarah (talk) 20:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Umm...

User talk:Sarah#Teahouse barnstar, e^xtra999 (talk) 06:13, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! That's what I get I suppose for changing my signature. It's the thought that counts. Thanks :) Sarah (talk) 20:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No change though. e^xtra999 (talk) 13:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Claire.degrazia

Don't bite the newbies! User talk:Claire.degrazia has created a well done article, but it is nominated for deletion, alleging that this user is a student at the subject business school. COI is a good policy, but there should be care taken with newbies. Please take a look. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:00, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This happens all the time. It happened to me with two new editors at an edit-a-thon I ran. I copyedited the article big time and removed the promo content. I also invited her to the Teahouse. Sarah (talk) 13:35, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good work. Thank you for the prompt response, and better yet, copy editing.--DThomsen8 (talk) 14:38, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo! Thanks for thinking of me to lend a hand, despite my busy schedule, it really doesn't take too much time to clean up an article or two from deletion! Sarah (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah, I thought of you in taking care of a newbie female editor who had created a well done article. I appreciate your help. --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:31, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help with women's national team articles

Hi. I'm working on some women's national team articles on my user space with the intention of taking as many of them as possible to DYK. (Hence the drafting on my user space.) If you have the time, could you help edit the articles listed below? I'd be happy to give you DYK credit for any articles you help improve. :) --LauraHale (talk) 20:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AFC

CAF

CONCAF

UEFA

Thanks Laura! What a feat and task! While sports isn't really my subject area, I'll do my best to contribute to one of these articles. Thanks and good luck. Go team! (bah-du-dum) Sarah (talk) 20:42, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse link?

Hi, SarahStierch, how are you? I can not see any link of Teahouse in User_talk:BrahmanAdvaita#Welcome_to_Wikipedia.21_Need_a_hand.3F? I feel the message and sign is breaking the link!--Tito Dutta (Message) 19:08, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is not it a general courtesy to reply? --Tito Dutta (Message) 23:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I took care of the problem, thanks Tito, sorry for the delay. I tend to let smaller things on my talk page sometimes get under the radar in lieu of other things sometimes, which is not a good thing. My apologies! Sarah (talk) 23:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, apologies not needed! Few days ago, in your Teahouse leaf 2, you forgot to close small tag after the signature, I manually corrected it in almost every page where you posted the message, see an example, most probably I did not inform about it in your talk page! But, after not getting any reply here too, I felt, messages are being deliberately ignored!--Tito Dutta (Message) 23:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Similar Interests?

Hey! I just wanted to drop by and leave a note for you. I was checking out Wikimania Submissions and was laughing because virtually every one I expressed interest in you were also listed. I know you're local (in DC) and I'd love to meet up if you and any other local Wikipedians are going out sometime. MyNameWasTaken (talk) 20:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks for coming by, and yes, very cool that we have similar Wikimania tastes :) I'm pretty swamped trying to wrap up school and planning a move across country, but, when I can I do go to meetups. I know the next one is May 5th: Wikipedia:Meetup/DC_31. I do think I'll be able to go, since I'll be done with school just before then. Anyhoo, I'm always down for last minute drinks and/or food even outside of meet-ups, so feel free to ping me on my email this user button and I can always gather some troops for drinks/editing/geeking out (Busboys perhaps!?). Thanks for coming by :) Sarah (talk) 20:47, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great! I'm on the list for the next meetup for sure, I've had to miss the last several sadly. So, I'll see you then. Also, while I'm here, what's the best way to get involved with the Teahouse? I've been spending a lot of time at WP:HD and C:HM and from what I gather the Teahouse serves a related purpose. I spend most of my time as an ambassador teaching people about WP anyways, so its a natural fit for me :-) MyNameWasTaken (talk) 02:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

SIA (was: Priscilla Fairfield Bok)

(replying here since you're more likely to see it)

Yes, seems a pity. I have a suspicion that she'll turn up in unlabelled photos with Harlow Shapley from the 1920s. Could you please reword the page? As currently worded, it implies that this is additionally a page to request archival searches for subjects that may not immediately show up in the SIA search (given you did just have a whole photo-ID workshop, I was hopeful that this was a way to request the services of SIA archivists...). Iridia (talk) 01:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Iridia! A large portion of the content that is in our collection is on our website, so, generally, if we don't find something about Bok on the website, she's most likely not in the collection. I will ask our archivist though tomorrow, promised! And I'll also ask her about Shapley. If they do find anything it'll take a few weeks for things to be scanned, but we'll do our best! I'll keep you posted. Sarah (talk) 01:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Currently awaiting a response from the archivists, hopefully we'll find out tomorrow! Sarah (talk) 20:51, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Sarah! Iridia (talk) 23:40, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hello SarahStierch,Thanks for inviting me to the Teahouse. Sincerely, --Hr.hanafi (talk) 14:07, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, Hr.hanafi. How is your Wikipedia experience going? Sarah (talk) 20:52, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just loves collaborative learning and this ability for me provide by Wikipedia --Hr.hanafi (talk) 13:20, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

5pm Thursday May 3 at the National Cathedral

But 1st you might want to send an encouraging message to User:Ellin Beltz

I don't know if you are still interested, but I'll be meeting with the Spring Flower Show people at the All Hallows Guild Carousel at the above time and place. Please join if you can. Rain date is 9am the following morning, and I may go Friday evening as well to get the carousel in action, with indistinct pictures of kids. I don't like the potential hazards of photographing identifiable kids, so my main thrust will be on the animal figures while the kids aren't there (i.e. Thursday). I also promised you and a couple others dinner - how about that Friday at an old NRHP firehouse in Georgetown, the Vigilant Firehouse (Washington, D.C.)? Smallbones (talk) 15:04, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SB! Thanks for the heads up about Ellin :( Also, I've put the 5 pm meeting on my calendar. Sounds great about dinner, too! This also might be the last time I see you before I move west, so I look forward to it! Sarah (talk) 20:57, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looking forward to it. Was considering Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 31 but that would make 3+ days on the road. Dinner on Friday. Smallbones (talk) 16:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Lucile Petry Leone

On 18 April 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lucile Petry Leone, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Lucile Petry Leone's successful establishment of the Cadet Nurse Corps in 1943 made it unnecessary to draft US nurses for WWII? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lucile Petry Leone.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 01:35, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Your Teahouse question!

I have posted an answer to your question here: Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Alphabetising_category. --Tito Dutta ^{Message Contribution Email} 02:06, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Issue with OTRS Tickets

Hey Sarah, thanks for the work you do for the OTRS team. :) I do have a concern though about how tickets in the permission queues are being handled, a specific example being Ticket:2012022210000342. I remember you sent a query to the mailing list looking for an admin to deal with a backlog of tickets, and I may have been harsh in my reply then. My apologies if it came across that way. But the tickets that I saw then, and now do not contain sufficient permission to be uploaded to Wikipedia or it's sisters. (A good reason for this specific ticket is mentioned in the private notes, which may of been what confused you) As far as I know there is a specific requirement for a license to be stated by the uploader and for it to be valid for us to accept it. Please understand that I'm not doing this to try and criticize your work, but I'm coming to you as a fellow OTRS member :) -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 03:45, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK DQ! Thanks for the information, and I don't take it personal, thank you! I don't have time to deal with OTRS stuff too much right now due to two jobs and finishing my masters, but I do appreciate being told when somethings weren't handled correctly. I haven't been able to deal with permissions in a while, it's so time consuming, so I'm sorry if I left messes to clean up :( (I also went through almost 200 tickets, so a few screw ups are bound to happen, I guess :( ) Sarah (talk) 03:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And also, things like this help me realize what I did and didn't do wrong with OTRS - which can be overwhelming when dealing with so much - sometimes I also need reminders about those internal notes we leave each other on tickets. Again, I'm sorry this caused problems! I appreciate your constructive criticism and input. Sarah (talk) 03:53, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, thanks for your understanding. And yes OTRS is so time consuming, I just act more as a consult, or by onwiki or offwiki request these days because of it. :P -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 03:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC Meetup & Dinner

Please join us for a Wikimedia DC Meetup & Dinner on Saturday, May 5. This will be a great opportunity to meet other Wikimedians from the DC area, discuss upcoming Wikimedia DC activities and events, and have fun over dinner and drinks. All ages are welcome! Kirill ^[talk] 04:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for joining WikiProject Article rescue squadron!

Hi, Missvain, welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying and rescuing articles and content that have been nominated for deletion. Every day hundreds of articles are deleted, many rightfully so. But many concern notable subjects and are poorly written, ergo fixable, and should not be deleted. We try to help these articles and content to quickly improve and address the concerns of why they are proposed for deletion. This covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated!

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again — Welcome! Northamerica1000^(talk) 11:00, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter Volume I, Issue III February 2012 Front cover \| Feature \| News and announcements \| Humor \| Want ads
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Hello!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :)

Thank you for stopping by to check me out...I can't make any editings this time because I'm busy making some preparations for our upcoming reunion. But after these, I hope I can find some articles that needed edits...Thanks you again and more power to Teahouse ~_^

Lightning monty (talk) 11:22, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Monty :) Thanks for the kitten and I look forward to you coming back to hang at Wikipedia, but..first and foremost, have FUN at your reunion! And on that note, I give you a cheesy 70's song about "reunions,": Peaches and Herb Ha ha ;) Sarah (talk) 21:01, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

		The Press Barnstar
		for the great outreach in media outside wikimedia, exemplified by the Q interview [1]. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 16:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Slow :) Sarah (talk) 21:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Interview ready

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/WikiProject desk/Interviews3 is ready for your answers about the Teahouse now! Answer any/as many as you like. PS: Don't forget to contact me whenever you have the Tea Leaf 3 coming out, so I can AWB it out. Thanks. Rcsprinter (rap) 16:15, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :) I will also ping you about the next Tea Leaf - no updates yet! Also, done with my responses! Sarah (talk) 21:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thank you very much! The interview is scheduled to appear on the 14th May - a little publicity for the teahouse won't go amiss, I'm sure! And thanks again for whenever you're ready with the Tea Leaf. Cheers, Rcsprinter (talkin' to me?) 15:19, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My treat...

Dirty White Mother Award

Much like the famed White Russian, the Dirty White Mother is two oz. brandy, one oz. Kahlua, and one oz. Bailey's Irish Cream. Four to the floor! Order four; fall to the floor. (Okay, it's smooth... so shimmy, get sassy... and sail away!) You won't be sorry. I'm in your corner and appreciate everything you're doing to hold down the fort in the storm. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 18:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You know me well Cindy :) Thank you! Sarah (talk) 21:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse Cheerleader!

	Mango margarita minus the mango award
	Sarah, here's a little something to sip on as a thank you for being such a great cheerleader with the Teahouse hosts. You are so supportive. Unfortunately, I couldn't find an image of a mango margarita, so you'll have to settle for this one instead. Cheers, amiga! Rosiestep (talk) 02:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! Rosiestep :) Between you and Cindamuse I'm not sure if could handle another drink, but who am I to say no? :) Thank you, you are really kind, I do what I can! And it's not too hard when you <3 some Teahouse :) Sarah (talk) 14:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John Merton Aldrich

On 19 April 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Merton Aldrich, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that John Merton Aldrich donated 45,000 flies to the United States National Museum? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John Merton Aldrich.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:38, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for inviting me to the Teahouse

Hi Sarah. Thank you for inviting me to the Teahouse. It's great to see that you guys have set up such a facility. Moderatelyaverage (talk) 10:50, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your'e welcome MA :) Glad to see you involved there already, thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! Sarah (talk) 14:56, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My contribution to Wikipedia

Dear Sarah,

Thank you for your invitation.

As you can see on my user page, I am a hobby botanist since my adolescence. My contribution to wikipedia consists mainly of

uploading correctly identified quality pictures of plants (see:My uploads),
identifying pictures of plants uploaded by other users, as Ghislain Chenais whom I am mentoring,
identifying that of Flora Batava, Netherlands (just completed).

Another main interest is Anton Bruckner, for the compositions of whom I have created several wiki-pages and improved the existing ones.

Best regards from Belgium, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:00, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Meneerke bloem! Thanks for sharing your interests and projects. I really do appreciate all of your great contributions - I also like to take photographs of flowers as well, and identifying them is the hardest, sometimes. It looks like we might not have any cross-over right now with my project at the Smithsonian Institution Archives, but, if I come across anything, I will surely keep you posted. We actually have thousands of scientific illustrations of plants that need identifying, but, alas, they are not scanned at this point (and probably won't be for quite sometime!). But, if you're ever in Washington and want to lend a hand onsite - do let me know! Sarah (talk) 15:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for creation/Paturi Sitaramanjaneyulu: Review request

Sarah, Could please review my article and let me know what I could od to improve it.

Thanks, Sri Sri pusuluri (talk) 13:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sri! I'll give you some feedback on your talk page. Thanks for coming by. It also looks like you went to the AfC Help Desk, which is surely the best place to go. But I'll do my best to give you come constructive advice too :) Sarah (talk) 15:04, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah, Thanks a lot for taking time to review my article. I will definitely make changes according to your suggestions. Sitaramanjaneyulus’s wife, though not famous is a very important person in his life. Most of the people who knew him in person know his wife and her influence on his works. So I would like to mention a few lines about her. Regarding the references and citations could you please confirm that what I got so far are acceptable to make the article public. Thanks, Sri Sri pusuluri (talk) 16:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sri! Oh, I think it's great that you want to mention his wife, for sure! I took a look at the links - the problem is that they are only for his books. For the article to make it through AfC (I think, I don't to reviews there, so, I might be a bad person to ask :) ) it'll need to have reliable secondary sources, and the sources don't have to be in English. Sources that I'm referring to are from newspapers, magazines, books - but they CANNOT be related to Paturi Sitaramanjaneyulu, they can't have been written by him or published by anyone related to him. Just searching in English I'm having bad luck, but, perhaps in his name language you might have some luck. I hope this helps! SarahStierch (talk) 16:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did mention an article written by Samavedan Shanmukha sarma. Also the other reference is regarding his award there is a link. Is that Enough. How many sources do I need to provide. Sri pusuluri (talk) 16:21, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to say it - but as many as you can? Right now, it just appears like original research, which we can't have on Wikipedia :( SarahStierch (talk) 16:22, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And do keep in mind - it's also up to the individual reviewer. I don't review the articles for AfC, so perhaps my thoughts don't matter, but, the more references the better :) SarahStierch (talk) 16:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah, Just to give you an idea of my strugle. Paturi Sitaramanjaneyulu a researcher . But he did not strive for fame he had a lot of quest for knowledge. Did not try to get into the crowd. But each of one of his works were historic linguistics works. I am in US and do not have access to any local magazines where I could find articles on Paturi. I tried to provide as much information as I could from online. I will keep trying to get more references. Sri Paturi’s areas of expertise include not limited to Mathematics, Astrology decryption of Hindu mantras based on the mathematical encryptions . Sri pusuluri (talk) 16:49, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your struggle! I frequently write about researchers as well, and sometimes I just have to step back and say "Looks like I'll have to hold this article in my sandbox until I find more resources," and I move along for the time being. If you have time to peruse, a good place to determine if your subject is "notable" enough to be in Wikipedia is here: Academics notability - this was developed to help people determine if academic subjects are notable enough to be in Wikipedia. I hope this helps, and if it doesn't seem to meet these guidelines, we might not be able to have an article on him at this time :( SarahStierch (talk) 16:54, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah, For now I would like to move it to my Sand box and bring it for review once I have more references I guess. Thanks for your supportive words. I will keep working on it. Sri pusuluri (talk) 17:06, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you Sarah for your invitation to join the volunteers in the Smithsonian Institution Archives project. I am very happy to have joined the project. Hopefully I will be able to help in some way. All the best. Figaro (talk) 06:09, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse invitation template

Hi. I'm not sure what is the template you used for a Teahouse invitation at User talk:Chocolate.social but, as you can see, it puzzled the user because it doesn't actually contain a link to the Teahouse. Maybe this has been fixed, because the two templates I can see now, {{Teahouse invitation}} and {{Teahouse invitation TW}}, do have links, but I thought I would mention it in case there is another that still doesn't. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 08:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks John. It was an operator error - I was utilizing a cut and paste template for a few specific "cases" (not worth explaining why) and I noticed a few didn't have links (go figure what the heck I did!) and I went back and fixed them - but failed to fix that one, and hopefully that is the only one. Thank you for lending a hand with the new editor and letting me know so I can go clean up any messes I made. I've been having some rough luck with templates lately..! :) SarahStierch (talk) 12:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, as long as the general templates have links. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 14:00, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many Thanks!

Your review of my starter page is much appreciated! Will attempt to puzzle out best routes to upgrading the thing, for while Lord Acton's adage 'If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing well' is axiomatically true, I'm a big fan of G.K. Chesterton's paradoxical corollary, 'If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing badly.' If I can conceptualize my question(s) succinctly, I'd broach it (or them) at the Teahouse. Thanks again!Onundtreefoot (talk) 20:23, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up on 64

Would it be useful to have this username list? I come away with the impression more training is needed. Is there a welcome template that can make cheat sheets and all easily accessible? It should include Teahouse info and link. KSRolph (talk) 22:32, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi KS. Are you talking about letting admins know about the students so this doesn't happen again? I'm not sure who you'd have to inform about the students usernames. It'd probably be a good idea to maybe talk with folks at the Wikipedia:Global Education Program (I'm not sure if they are strictly for colleges, but, it'd be worth reaching out to them). Let me know if you want me to introduce you via email to people. If you are referring to me having access to the students usernames, that'd be great, so I can greet them with the Teahouse welcome template. Unfortunately at this time we're not able to add the Teahouse link to any of the welcome templates. We can create our own, but, we're avoiding utilizing heavy text blocks with excessive links. Feel free to post the list and I'll invite them if you'd like! SarahStierch (talk) 22:38, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

p.s I posted an example of the invitation on your talk page. SarahStierch (talk) 22:39, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

bug in invitation template

Hi,

I dropped a note on a talk page, and it got swallowed by your invitation template. I added a line break,[2] and the problem disappeared. Very odd. Thought you should know. — kwami (talk) 04:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agh! Man, this has been a terrible week for templates for me. I'll clean up my messes. Thanks Kwamikagami! SarahStierch (talk) 05:01, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry la

Hi. I moved myself, I am not staff, I am not even in America. But anything on Palaeontology of Geology I can help with. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 05:23, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcoming blocked editors

Hi Sarah, apologies if someone else has already brought this to your attention, but would you mind not welcoming blocked editors? Aside from any question as to whether we want to encourage blocked editors, there is a real risk that a welcome and come to the Teahouse template could be seen as sarcastic when dropped on the talkpage of someone who is currently blocked. Cheers Ϣere SpielChequers 10:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Where seldom is heard an encouraging word..." keep on welcoming everyone, including blocked editors. has anyone complained of 'sarcasm'? rather we have the complaints of the vindictive, who can't stomach diplomacy rather than target acquisition, and target suppression. perhaps an FAQ is required. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 11:48, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you do want to welcome blocked editors why not add words to the effect of "when your block expires" or "when you've resolved those issues and been unblocked". That would make it clear that they are welcome at the Teahouse, just as soon as they've been unblocked. Ϣere SpielChequers 12:04, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

how much investigation do you want teahouse to do in its thousands of welcomes? do you want to caveat the welcome to everyone, so that the blocked are still on notice? what is the percentage of blocked editors welcomed - less than .1%? it's astonishing to me how being nice to editors can be criticised. a dialogue needs to be established, beyond the mindless warnings, if you want editors to improve. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 12:14, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, the editor wasn't formally blocked until shortly after the invitation had been placed in their talk page. But a quick glance at the top of their talk page before placing the invitation would have indicated that this editor waa neither "new" nor "promising" but a sock puppet of an editor blocked for repeated copyright violations and violating WP's policy on biographies of living person. Voceditenore (talk) 13:39, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This was absolutely an accident. At this point, I have invited over 2,000 editors to the Teahouse, and I think I've been pinged about now inviting two blocked users. So I must say, I'm not doin' too bad :) But, it's always great to get a reminder about this - as it reminds me not to invite users when I'm half asleep or not in the right mindset. And while I do believe that people can "repent" to become great editors - some are also a lost cause. Thanks all! SarahStierch (talk) 14:37, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One easy way of making sure you aren't inviting a blocked user is to add importScript("User:PleaseStand/userinfo.js"); to your user JavaScript (vector.js, monobook.js, common.js etc.): this will pop up a line of information about the user when you are looking at their user or user talk page. For instance, for you it says "An autopatrolled user, 5 years 11 months old, with 40,116 edits. Last edited 1 minute ago." (It also puts a male or female symbol next to their username which is also quite handy.) For blocked users, it'll say "A blocked autoconfirmed user..." etc. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:20, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Tom. Great idea. Do I just copy and paste that importScript that you posted there? I'm not very savvy with scripts. Thanks for the help. SarahStierch (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wait, I see I had to go to the script which is house here. Let's see here.. SarahStierch (talk) 16:24, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Argh. I'm confused. :( It says that it's for non-Firefox browsers? Because I use Firefox. And then there is a ton of script there, I don't understand if I have to copy all of it or what. Sorry to need so much help. SarahStierch (talk) 16:27, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, you just add the importScript line the bottom of User:SarahStierch/vector.js, on a new line.

Don't worry about the non-Firefox thing. I use Firefox and it works just fine.

(Also, incidentally, I realised you don't have rollbacker rights. So, congratulations, you have a magical new button to push. You may—HINT HINT—find it useful for a certain little thing User:Okeyes (WMF) has been working on.) —Tom Morris (talk) 16:29, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've done it. Here's how for future reference. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:31, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did it right after you did it. So I had to remove mine. Thanks! I don't understand what you're referring too? Are you talking about rollback? SarahStierch (talk) 16:33, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I've just granted you rollback. The new article feedback tool gives certain privileges to experienced users, and uses rollback to decide that. I figure that it might be useful as part of Teahouse. If there are any other experienced Teahouse folk who might need it, you might want to suggest that they get rollback before the new AFT launches as I'm sure they'd be invaluable in helping manage the AFT comments. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:36, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About "Smithsonian Institution Archives Program" Invitation

Thanks for your invitation. I will looking into it. Anyway I wonder how did you find my user in Wikipedia? I am not really active in Wikipedia recently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palaxzorodice (talk • contribs) 15:12, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I believe you're a member of a science related project, so that's how I came across you :) I do hope you'll join us (or perhaps it'll serve as a lure to get being more active again :) ) SarahStierch (talk) 16:23, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Thanks! Palaxzorodice (talk) 16:50, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Hi there! I believe you're a member of a science related project, so that's how I came across you :) I do hope you'll join us (or perhaps it'll serve as a lure to get being more active again :) ) [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch#top|talk]]) 16:23, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
+::Sure. Thanks! [[User:Palaxzorodice|Palaxzorodice]] ([[User talk:Palaxzorodice|talk]]) 16:50, 21 April 2012 (UTC)