Talk:Hinduism

please delete or add some sort of disclaimer to this section

>[Th]e history of Indian philosophy has been characterized largely by a series of crises of interaction between the invasive Vedic-Aryan and the non-Aryan, earlier, Dravidian styles of thought and spiritual experience. The Brahmans were the principal representatives of the former, while the latter was preserved, and finally reasserted, by the surviving princely houses of the native Indian, dark-skinned, pre-Aryan population."[73][note 12][note 13][note 14]

this part has been thoroughly debunked and is just rubbish.

>No evidence of massive migration has been found through examination of skeletal remains.[3][4][5] The ancient Harappans were not markedly different from modern populations in Northwestern India and present-day Pakistan. Craniometric data showed similarity with prehistoric peoples of the Iranian plateau and Western Asia,[6] although Mohenjodaro was distinct from the other areas of the Indus Valley.[7] According to Shaffer, archaeological evidence for a mass population movement, or an invasion of South Asia in the pre- or proto- historic periods, has not been found.[8][9][10] At best, there is evidence of small-scale migrations approaching South Asia.[11][12

this is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_migration

more importantly: >Around 1800 BCE, signs of a gradual decline began to emerge, and by around 1700 BCE, most of the cities were abandoned. In 1953, Sir Mortimer Wheeler proposed that the decline of the Indus Civilization was caused by the invasion of an Indo-European tribe from Central Asia called the "Aryans". As evidence, he cited a group of 37 skeletons found in various parts of Mohenjo-Daro, and passages in the Vedas referring to battles and forts. However, scholars soon started to reject Wheeler's theory, since the skeletons belonged to a period after the city's abandonment and none were found near the citadel. Subsequent examinations of the skeletons by Kenneth Kennedy in 1994 showed that the marks on the skulls were caused by erosion, and not violent aggression.[79] Today, many scholars believe that the collapse of the Indus Civilization was caused by drought and a decline in trade with Egypt and Mesopotamia.[80] It has also been suggested that immigration by new peoples, deforestation, floods, or changes in the course of the river may have contributed to the collapse of the IVC.[81]

=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Valley_Civilization#Collapse_and_Late_Harappan

this is just racist drivel. why is it on here as fact?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.194.67.10 (talk) 00:55, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Reply by JJ - It is given as a quote; I've added a note:

19th century Indologists hypothesized an Aryan invasion and forceful conquest of north-India by the Aryans.(Klostermaier 2007 p.18) Contemporary scholars find it more likely that is was a gradual migration of Aryan tribes.(Micaels 2004 p.33-34)(Possehl 2002 p.154) According to Possehl, there may have been a "complex pattern of movement"(Possehl 2002 p.154), with seasonal migrations back north into Central Asia and south into India, but also settlement of Indo-European peoples who "preserved their own heritage".(Possehl 2002 p.154)

Read also the accompanying notes; the emphasis is on synthesis and interaction. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:17, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

References needed

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This section, needs to be improved, the first line of the section is really unsourced, and if i removed it, the section will start lacking it's real meaning. You probably know about it, give your try :) . Bladesmulti (talk) 06:56, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Done! Thanks for noticing. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:13, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

This book[3] has gave the same 100% text that has been given in the section Hinduism#Diversity and inclusivism, and blamed on court, although i couldn't find if court provided that definition. Bladesmulti (talk) 08:54, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Two sources is sufficient, isn't it? Otherwise [4]. Great source, by the way, on Hindutva - I mean, very interesting to read and to get an "inside-impression" of Hindutva". This looks interesting too. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:28, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Main point was to highlight, if there's any source who says that these definitions are given by the court. Bladesmulti (talk) 11:29, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

May we replace the phrase "tipping of the hat" with the word namaste. Kanchanamala (talk) 05:05, 2 December 2013 (UTC)