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June 12

Montreal newspaper

I'm looking to verify info on a 1969 blues concert in Montreal. What newspapers have a good online archive and might cover it? trespassers william (talk) 00:30, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

A number of newspapers which existed at the time have gone defunct e.g. the Montreal Star or Montréal-Matin, but La Presse, the Montreal Gazette and Le Journal de Montreal are still around. Others went out of business before the internet age, so it's unlikely someone has digitized their archives. I don't think any of the current papers have searchable archives dating back to 1969, however. You would likely need the help of a library with microfilm archives. --Xuxl (talk) 09:20, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

The Gazette is actually archived on Google News - here (you'll have to type in 1969 in the "date" box to get to that year). There are no archives for May and October, but the other months seem to be complete. Adam Bishop (talk) 13:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

June 14

Copyright?

After practising some piano tunes, I noticed in the music book I was using, it said that making a photocopy of the music was not permitted due to copyright. All sounds good and well, but I then realised that I was playing classical music from the 18th century. How, in any jurisdiction, is copying this music illegal? Isn't 250 year old music public domain by definition? What is going on with my sheet music? Should I sue the publisher for incorrectly claiming copyright? Pablothepenguin (talk) 14:59, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

I think you'd have no standing, unless they sued you for copyright violation. The notice does you no harm. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 15:45, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

The copyright is not on the music, but rests on the actual printed book itself, which is why photocopying is not permitted as you are infringing the copyright of the publisher of that book. --TammyMoet (talk) 18:19, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

But surely if it is public domain music, I should be able to copy it if I damn well please? Pablothepenguin (talk) 19:22, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Concerning US copyright, Q: Can a work that includes works in the public domain be copyrighted? A: Yes. However, the copyright protects only the original contributions added by the author. In your case, perhaps the current publisher reset the score, and their copyright claim is on the layout of the sheet music, not on the tune. -- ToE 19:42, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

(EC) The music may well be public domain, but all means is that a certain array of notes can be played in a certain order by anyone. It doesn't mean that any future publication that someone has spent time and effort designing, laying out etc is also public domain. It is the same concept as books of Charles Dicken's works; the original stories are all copyright expired but a publisher who compiles them, typesets them, designs a book layout, commissions cover art, pays for distribution etc should still be able to protect their work. Nanonic (talk) 19:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

We cannot give legal advice here on the reference desks, so we can't answer your last question -- that is, we can't suggest what you should do -- but we can give references to related situations. You may wish to read our Happy Birthday to You#Copyright status, particularly the subsection Happy Birthday to You#2013 lawsuit. In that case, which is still ongoing, standing was established via the plaintiff's payment of $1,500 (USD) to secure rights for use of the song in a documentary. -- ToE 19:23, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Pablo, did the notice simply prohibit copying outright, no ifs or buts, no qualifications? Or was there something there about "fair use" or similar provisions? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 19:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

No, fair use is not mentioned in the music book. Pablothepenguin (talk) 20:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Also, the book contains the Abrsm's 2015-2016 Grade 1 exam pieces, and is an official publication of the aforementioned organisation. Pablothepenguin (talk) 20:08, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

The reason I asked that is because I'm involved in performing pieces at eisteddfodau in Australia, where the usual requirement is that the entrant play from the original music and provide a photocopy to the adjudicator(s). Apart from enabling the judges to gauge the accuracy of the playing as printed on the page (because different editions of the same work can have different editorial additions), it's also to ensure that the music is from a commercial publication and not downloaded free from the internet or obtained from some other free source. If the latter were the case, it would involve the eistoddfod organisers being complicit in potential copyright infringement. But since the photocopying is an official requirement designed to avoid such issues, the mere act of photocopying the music in that circumstance can hardly be an issue in itself. This is no doubt covered by the "fair use" provisions of Australian copyright law. However, I stress that this applies in that very specific context, and I would not wish to advise you about photocopying music generally. The copyright laws in whatever jurisdiction applies to you will no doubt have some bearing on all this. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

• The phrase that has not been mentioned yet is typographical copyright which can forbid photocopying . So, it depends on where you live. One can down load free PDFs of blank staff paper (say here: [1]), on which to transcribe the music or go to a local archive and photocopy an old score which is out of typographical copyright.--Aspro (talk) 14:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

1980s/90s Series - The Path of Cocaine

When I was in high school there was a pretty graphic mini-series showing the path that drugs took from Central America into the US. It started on a drug farm deep in the jungle, made its way through the world of the drug cartels, then to an American private pilot smuggler, and eventually to the streets of America through crooked police. It was a great and powerful series; anyone recall the name? -OberRanks (talk) 02:00, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Possibly Drug Wars: The Camarena Story (1990) or the followup Drug Wars: The Cocaine Cartel (1992)? A description/review of the latter by Entertainment Weekly does state "The best parts of Drug Wars guide us swiftly through the mechanics of the drug world — the processing of the cocaine, the smuggling of it out of the country, the laundering of billions of drug-profit dollars, and the ruthless killing of anyone who gets in the cartel’s way". Clarityfiend (talk) 02:45, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Those were unfortunately not it, but I remember them as well. The Camerena series was extremely hard to follow. I remember it raised a stink showing a torture scene on network television. The series I am talking about, I remember ended with the brother of a boy in an inner city getting killed over drugs, the boy cries, and back in Columbia a little boy working on the drug farm hears the cry. -OberRanks (talk) 03:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

June 15

Need help about two photos

I recently uploaded several photos from the latest Cannes festival and I need some help to identify two persons. The photo on the left shows the cast and crew of the film High strung (not to be confused with the 1991 film of the same name, BTW). I identified the bearded gentleman on the left as Paul Freeman, who stars in the film, but I may be wrong. Could anyone confirm that it is indeed him or, if not, tell me who this is ?

So far, I could not identify the lady in the photo on the right (model ? actress ?). Does anyone have an idea about who she is ? Thanks a lot, Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 08:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

The other man is the director, Michael Damian, and the woman in purple between them is Jane Seymour. [Michael Damian's wife Janeen is on right.][2] I'm not so sure that's Paul Freeman, though. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood the OP's question. He's not asking about Damien, or Seymour. He's only asking about the man on the left (and the woman in the other picture as well). --Viennese Waltz 13:50, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't think Bugs misunderstood at all. The way I read it, he was just confirming that at least two of the other people in the picture are cast/crew of the same film. So, while it is conceivable that it is Freeman on the left, Bugs does not think so. BTW, I tend to agree with Bugs. I don't think it's him either. Dismas|^(talk) 14:03, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Well, yes and no. I went looking for corresponding pics in Google Images, but did not see any that looked like the woman in the blue skirt. I saw another pic with the Michael, Jane and the bearded guy, but it didn't ID him. Looking at photos of Freeman from recent years, the eyes and the hairline don't match. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:18, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Here are a batch of pics of Freeman young and old and none of them look like the man on the left. I tried looking for some of the people who were producers etc for the film and came up empty. Since Seymour and James Keach split up more than two years ago it is possible that it is someone she is dating etc at the moment but I don't follow that sort of thing. I mention it in case it helps others track down. MarnetteD|Talk 14:25, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I could identify Jane Seymour and Michael Damian. The blond woman is Janeen Damian, producer of the film and wife of Michael. It's just the bearded man I'm trying to identify (him, and the woman in blue on the other photo). Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 15:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Here's another pic of Jane with that guy, but annoyingly enough it does not say who he is.[3]. I don't think it's James Keach, although there are similarities. However, they are holding hands, so it's likely they are more than just co-workers. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:48, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, Jane Seymour and James Keach are separated (or divorced ?). Indeed, it is probable that this man is Jane Seymour's current boyfriend : even if that is the case, he might not be a public figure. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 09:50, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

What game is this?

Ok so, I seem to remember seeing a trailer years ago, I think with dev commentary, but I can't recall the name of it. All I can recall is it was some action game, I think for PC, and its niche was your inventory was accessed via your character looking inside an open trenchcoat, e.g. the camera actually tilted down and the coat opened and your inventory was there hanging inside the coat. Also I seem to recall water figuring in heavily too maybe but I could be mistaken. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 12:13, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I think you are thinking of Alone in the Dark (2008 video game). See a youtube video of the inventory mechanic here: [4] gnfnrf (talk) 13:07, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

derek jacobi

hello,

anybody knows how can one make contact with sir derek jacobi? perhaps via email or the Social networks? I'm a fan, and want to ask him something about I, claudius...

thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.11.199 (talk) 12:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

This page gives contact details for his theatrical agents. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 13:08, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Flexible chord progressions

Let's look at the melody of "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star"

F-F-C-C-D-D-C

B♭-B♭-A-A-G-G-F

C-C-B♭-B♭-A-A-G

C-C-B♭-B♭-A-A-G

F-F-C-C-D-D-C

B♭-B♭-A-A-G-G-F

Now, compare how the last line of the melody would sound if the following chord progression accompanies it:

C7-F-C7-F (where each chord accompanies 2 quarter notes or a half note)

...with how it would sound if the following chord progression were used instead:

Gm7-C7-F-Dm-Gm7-C7-F (where each chord accompanies a quarter note except the final F chord, which accompanies a half note)

Georgia guy (talk) 20:25, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Is there a question? --LarryMac | Talk 21:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

The question is: how will the chord progression affect how the melody sounds?? Georgia guy (talk) 21:22, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I think you'd be able to find a lot of possible harmonizations for this melody in Mozart's variations on this melody (KV 265/300e). There's ii-vii^o-I-vi-ii-V-I (theme and variations I and V; the second time variation V replaces the initial ii with V/V by sharping the first note, and variation XII does this every time); IV-V-I-vi-ii-V-I (variations II and IV); IV-vii^o-I-vi-ii-V-I (variation III), ii-V-I-vi-ii-V-I (variation VI); IV-vii^o-V/vi-vi-ii-V-I (variation VII); (minor) V (twice as long)-i-VI-ii^o-V-I (variation VIII); (each chord twice as long) V-I-V-I (variation IX); (sharping the first note) V/V-vii^o-I-vii^o/V-V (twice as long)-I (variation X); IV-V-I (twice as long)-ii-V-I (variation XI). Double sharp (talk) 13:24, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

This is known as "orchestration" to students of music. You might find this YouTube video useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXdAa-G4bo --TammyMoet (talk) 12:23, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Not really, Tammy. Orchestration is where a piece originally written for a solo instrument or small combination of instruments (I include the voice there) is rearranged for an orchestra of many instruments (which may feature a solo instrument or voice). Just playing a sequence of notes on, say, the piano that are different from those written in the music could, depending on the specifics, fit into modulation (music) or variation (music) or re-arrangement or, indeed, error. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:01, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

The melody is in F major. The first harmonization is the usual V-I cadence once repeated. When you insert the minor chords, as far as I can tell, it doesn't affect the melody much. Depending on the tempo, it may sound like a little excursion in D minor (the relative minor of F major) although I'll let people with more expertise determine if the feeling of D as a tonic is really suggested. The more symmetrical harmonization Gm7-C7-Dm-F-Gm7-C7-F where the minor chord falls systematically on the beat makes it sound almost like the end of a choral. The harmonization C7-Gm7-F-Dm-C7-Gm7-F where it is the major chord that falls on the beat is a bit weird, the minor chords sound redundant and unclear and inserting the ii chord in between V and I weakens the conclusive feeling of the cadence. The area of music theory that deals with these sorts of questions is harmony. Orchestration deals with questions such as how to distribute the notes of a chord between instruments or groups of instruments, for example in an orchestra. Contact Basemetal here 19:56, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

The second one is also rather strange in terms of functional harmony: in F major, it would be V⁷–ii⁷–I–vi–V⁷–ii⁷–I, but V as a dominant function leading to ii as a predominant is kind of the opposite of what usually happens. It weakens the cadence and, at least to me, makes the progression feel a bit more modal. Double sharp (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Off topic, but since orchestration was mentioned, and assuming you'd like to get a feeling for what orchestration involves, you could do worse than listen, side by side as it were, to the original version for soprano and piano and the orchestral version for soprano and orchestra (orchestration by Antony Beaumont) of Edgard Varèse's setting of the poem "Un grand sommeil noir" by Paul Verlaine, especially since they are both being sung by the same singer, Mireille Delunsch. Contact Basemetal here 20:35, 16 June 2015 (UTC

I agree that it doesn't change much. It substitutes the original simply-structured chords with chords that lie very close, sharing 2-3 identical notes, including the notes of the melody, and follows the logic of commonplace ii–V–I progressions (or vi-ii-V-I progression). I'm sure it can be done cleverly, and I guess you could use it for the final bars (the acceleration of the harmonic rhythm, now changing note by note, suggests this kind of use), but it doesn't add much. At least it doesn't sound as contrived as some exercises in reharmonization do more often than could be desired. ---Sluzzelin talk 22:45, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, as Sluzzelin noted Dm-Gm7-C7-F is (in F major) the very common vi-ii-V-I progression, which is a progression which descends the circle of 5ths step by step (that is the root of the chords progresses by descending 5ths). The longest such progression in non-modulating diatonic harmony is iii-vi-ii-V-I which in F major would be Am7-Dm-Gm7-C7-F. You can even harmonize the last phrase of your melody with that progression (so Gm7-C7-Am7-Dm-Gm7-C7-F) and see how you like it. You can then raise (sharp) the C of the Am7 chord to make it into an A7 chord (Gm7-C7-A7-Dm-Gm7-C7-F), which would accentuate the feeling of a modulation to D minor. There I would say the feeling of a modulation would be hard to miss. So you can have a little fun even with such a simple melody as "Ah! vous dirai-je, maman" (aka "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star"). Contact Basemetal here 00:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

It'd be a really short modulation, though, and you could equally analyze the A7 as just V⁷/vi – a secondary dominant.

Also, the full circle progression I–IV–vii^o–iii–vi–ii–V is perfectly possible in non-modulating diatonic harmony, isn't it? I can think of one in Schumann's Op. 124 No. 4, for instance. Double sharp (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

The root of a vii^o is not always the 7th degree. It can be e.g. a V7 with a missing root. But even if its root is the 7th degree, the movement from the 4th degree to the 7th degree is not a fall of a (perfect) 5th but of a diminished 5th. It is only by analogy that one calls that moving on the circle of 5ths. Contact Basemetal here 14:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict × 2) Yes, usually vii^o can be better analyzed as V7 with a missing root, but in the circle progression it makes sense to treat the 7th degree as the actual root. Agreed that the movement by d5 instead of P5 between IV and vii^o is only acceptable by analogy, though: I didn't notice you said "circle of 5ths" the first time, and simply responded to "progresses by descending 5ths". You'd need it far more often in minor keys, either between VI and ii^o, or between ♭II and V.

What would make another interesting question, is why d5 appears to be a very acceptable substitute for P5, but A5 isn't usually acceptable: in minor-key circle progressions, you see VII often, but not vii^o with the leading note instead of the subtonic (which would also require the subsequent use of III⁺). Double sharp (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

<Inane trekkie-comment alert!> For unexplainable reasons, I was reminded of how Jean-Luc Picard, and especially his love-interest Nella Daren interpreted "Frère Jacques" in "Lessons". She uses the canon to coax him into improvising, and does her own showy neat little fancy modulation on her portable rollable keyboard (which somehow fit the way she was portrayed and somehow also managed to annoy me at the time ;-). ---Sluzzelin talk 01:04, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Then how about this? And on John Peel! A twinkle amid the fall? Weird. And now Picard and Nella (mentioned by Sluzzelin). Star Trek is so puritanical! Why don't they just have sex? No such scruples here. Contact Basemetal here 16:21, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

(Singing Whaa O E, Whaa O E to the tune of "Three Blind Mice") Now, surely you didn't expect this not to be covered at Wikipedia, of all topics and places? ---Sluzzelin talk 16:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Banned

Is it possible to get banned so hard that you can't even access wikipedia? Do admins have that power even, like just firewall your IP address from anything wikipedia related at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WimmyJales (talk • contribs) 22:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

This isn't the forum for such questions; try the Village Pump; though anyone can read articles on Wikipedia even if banned. 331dot (talk) 22:21, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

June 16

What's the name of this movie?

I've seen this movie a long time ago, but I don't remember its name. Can someone please tell me? I remember a few parts of the movie. Hope this would be enough for finding its name.

In ancient times, in an hospital located in a church, a little girl with an injured foot meets a man also with injured foots (I call him The Man). The Man demands the girl to go and bring him a drug, in exchange to telling her an interesting story. The Man has fallen in love with a nurse.

In the story, a man, actually The Man himself, with two other men, are preparing to revenge from another man, whom I call The Cruel Man. They promise to each other, but the man lies to others, while he was twisting his fingers together (meaning that lying in this situation is not bad, this seems to be a key point in the movie). They find a mute Indian man and also a young black man. The Indian man's wife has thrown herself from an old mansion, killing herself. Wearing a mask at most times, The Man fell in love with The Cruel Man's wife, an immoral women yet beautiful. I don't remember the entire movie, but I remember that The Cruel Man has many soldiers, but all with unknown faces. I remember that the black man dies with thousands of spits in his back. In a long fight, The Cruel Man was killed in a pool by The Man with a knife. The little girl in the beginning of the movie, also appears in the story as The Man's little girl. I also remember that in a scene, an elderly man attacks The Cruel Man's castle, but he compromised and The Cruel Man's army chase him. He explodes a bunch of dynamites, killing himself and many soldiers.

Thanks -- 188.210.71.179 (talk) 23:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Most everything you mention occurs in The Fall (2006 film) though not in the same order. MarnetteD|Talk 00:07, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Not sure how long ago you mean. The Fall is nine years old. If you mean longer ago then that there is a possibility that you are looking for Yo Ho Ho. TF is based on it. I haven't seen YHH so I don't know whether the plot is close to TF or not. MarnetteD|Talk 00:15, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

June 17

Jordan Henderson

Please correct the page of Liverpool footballer Jordan Henderson as someone has written some incorrect and rude information on there about him.

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.238.155 (talk) 10:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

It's either already been corrected, or I can't find what you refer to - Jordan Henderson seems fine to me. I would suggest you add any comments like this to the actual talk page of the article as well Talk:Jordan_Henderson, as it's more likely to be seen by people who know what the correct info is... gazhiley 11:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

OP is probably referring to this vandalism which was put in just a couple minutes before they posted here and was reverted just minutes before your response to them. Dismas|^(talk) 11:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

sean connery

Has sean connery ever done audiobooks? Did he release his autobiography in an audiobook version?

thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.93.22 (talk) 14:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

How to watch old TV shows that have not been released on home media

Specifically, I'm interested in Twinkle, the Dream Being, but I want to know if there are any general ways of progressing when the show hasn't been released on home media. I am willing to pay.--Leon (talk) 20:12, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

There are many Internet sites that show such programs for free, but with ads, like Hulu. However, the video and audio quality is often poor. StuRat (talk) 21:17, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

As far as I know Hulu is only available in the United States. Contact Basemetal here 21:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

According to IMDB, ABC Family distributed that, at least in America. Part of the wider Disney–ABC Television Group. That doesn't necessarily mean they own it, but it's a fairly safe bet.

Buying a complete run of it from them may be hard. Entertainment companies are, in general, jealous hoarders. They'll sit on things they aren't selling, just in case they ever want to. Sometimes they buy great ideas and finished projects we've never seen, purely to keep other companies from releasing them. You're not a rival distributor, but you could share the run online. They don't really have a reason to trust you, but it can't hurt to ask to speak with someone. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:24, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Video of Rachel Dolezal

I read that there was an interview in which Rachel Dolezal was asked if she is Black, or African American (I forget which). Her response was "I don't understand the question." And she stormed out of the room. Does anyone have a link where this video is found on the internet? I checked YouTube, but no luck. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

[5] --Viennese Waltz 21:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that's it. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• Just noticed to Joe this is "Entertainment". Humor? Contact Basemetal here 14:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Not all entertainment is funny. This is like reality TV drama. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:48, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually wasn't sure where to ask the question, and my next stop would have been "Humanities". But, that didn't seem to fit, either. I was asking about locating the video itself; I was not asking about the larger issue of the woman's race claims. When I think of video, television, You Tube, etc., my first thought is "Entertainment". Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:57, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Cycling

Who is the first black African rider who raced at the Tour de France? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.202.251.29 (talk) 21:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

According to this article and this article from The Guardian, MTN-Qhubeka will be the first African team to compete in the race, due to start on 4 July this year. No Africans (or black people from any other part of the world) have competed in it to date. Tevildo (talk) 22:25, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

According to our article on Yohann Gène he "is the first cyclist of Afro-Caribbean and Sub-Saharan African descent to ever compete in the Tour de France" ("Meet Yohann Gène, the First Black Cyclist Ever in the Tour de France"). ---Sluzzelin talk 04:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

June 18

Why is contemporary music so bad?

duplicate question, please answer at the humanities desk
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
According to a scientific study, pop music has been trending to be more homogeneous since the 1970s. What is the sociological explanation for this trend? Czech is Cyrillized (talk) 02:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC) This has already been asked and answered at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Why_is_contemporary_music_so_bad.3F μηδείς (talk) 02:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

What's this Indian folk song?

Can you recognize this Indian folk song? Or at least can you recognize the language or what part of India it's from? (From the context I do understand it ought to be Punjabi since it mentions a lost river of the Punjab. But is it?). Contact Basemetal here 00:40, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

A pity no one could answer this question. No Indians here? No one knowledgeable about Indian folk music? I'd love to find out more about this style of Indian folk music. Are there any suggestions as to what other resources are available on the net for this sort of search? Contact Basemetal here 18:55, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I actually thought you had left out a timestamp and meant for us to listen through the 52 minutes in order to hear what you are talking about, but now I see you did set a timestamp, only, it doesn't work for me: This would work for me. Is that the spot you mean (tablas, bass flute, harp, etc.)? If so, My impression (but I'm no expert at all) is not one of genuine subcontinental folk music at all, but of a western composer's incidental music intended to give our western ears that mysterious ancient subcontinental feeling (the six composers credited for music at the end of the clip all have French-sounding European names). For what it's worth ... ---Sluzzelin talk 04:10, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

No your time stamp does not land where the song is of course (I can still tell the difference between background music and a genuine folk song; in fact a translation of the lyrics of the beginning of the song appears on the screen): that's because 1329 seconds does not amount to 13 m 29 s of course but to 22 m 09 s. Try this. Incidentally I wonder why my timestamp (number of seconds) works for me and not for you (both formats work for me). Contact Basemetal here 04:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Apologies to everyone for whom the timestamp didn't work and who thought I was expecting them to go through a 52 minute documentary (with no other clue as to where the song was!). Here is again the location of the song using two different timestamp formats: song (using number of seconds timestamp) and song (using minute and second timestamp). If neither timestamp format works for you: the song is 22 minutes and 09 seconds into the documentary. Maybe that explains why I had no answers? Contact Basemetal here 04:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Is "timestamp" is the appropriate technical term? I would have said "time offset" but since I don't know I just followed Sluzzelin; I trust everyone understands what we're talking about Contact Basemetal here 07:51, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

(Probably not appropriate, no! Youtube occasionally call it "start time" which makes sense). Sorry about assuming you had heard the "Jungle-Booky" sequence as folk music, by the way, I honestly had no idea 1329 meant the number of seconds, nor did I know one could set it like that at all (in terms of seconds only). I don't think I will be able to help you identify the music you are actually asking about (which I've now listened to, thanks) but I'll try to ask around. ---Sluzzelin talk 15:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

If you (or anyone else) can identify the language of the song that would already be something. Also, if the lyrics are from a pre-existing poem (as is often the case in Indian classical music and even in Indian folk music) an identification of the poem would also be great. I tried all that with Google, but maybe not in a very clever way or maybe even in a not very clever way. The little bit of lyrics as they appear on the screen is: "The goddesses of the Ghaggar River / If we accompany them on the land of gold to the blessed river / If we thank them for the fertile land they gave us / We'll see our reflection in the river where magnificent fish swim". I would not expect the English translation to be necessarily very accurate. My guess is it is from a French translation of the original (or even, who knows, maybe it is an English translation of a French translation of an English translation of the original) as the film is the English version of a French/Japanese production. Contact Basemetal here 17:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

What is her Name ?

Try as I might, I could not find the name of the Actress who plays Roy Biggins' Receptionist at his Aeromass Counter in the TV Sitcom Wings. All I can see is that she has short red hair, but since she never appears to have any lines, she does not seem to be given a credit, unless I have missed it. Any ideas, anyone ? Thank You. Chris the Russian Christopher Lilly 14:32, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

You might look for pics which include her, with captions. StuRat (talk) 14:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Is this the woman in question: [6], or somebody else on the show ? StuRat (talk) 14:44, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Trish Monaco is listed as the uncredited "Aeromass Gal" at IMDB, but I can't seem to find a picture to compare. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:42, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Quantum Leap mirror trick

On the US TV series Quantum Leap which ran from 89 to 93, how did they do the mirror trick, where Sam Beckett was looking into a mirror and the reflection was that of another person? Was Scott Bakula in front of a green screen during filming? How'd they erase the other actor's body when they stood in front of the mirror? 75.75.42.89 (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2015 (UTC)