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Does anyone happen to know the details of the relationship between [[Dani Klein]] and her bassist Dirk Schoufs, and what led to their falling out? It says in the article that they had a "close collaboration" but he left the band after a "serious falling out" and died a short time later from alcohol and drugs (and it's hinted in [[Time Flies (Vaya con Dios album)|another article]] that his death sent her into deep depression) -- does anyone happen to know more? Also, was he abusing drugs before the falling-out (as I surmise he was) -- maybe she tried to get him to sober up, and that's what led to their parting ways? [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8E01:515D:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B|2601:646:8E01:515D:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8E01:515D:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B|talk]]) 01:31, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone happen to know the details of the relationship between [[Dani Klein]] and her bassist Dirk Schoufs, and what led to their falling out? It says in the article that they had a "close collaboration" but he left the band after a "serious falling out" and died a short time later from alcohol and drugs (and it's hinted in [[Time Flies (Vaya Con Dios album)|another article]] that his death sent her into deep depression) -- does anyone happen to know more? Also, was he abusing drugs before the falling-out (as I surmise he was) -- maybe she tried to get him to sober up, and that's what led to their parting ways? [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8E01:515D:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B|2601:646:8E01:515D:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8E01:515D:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B|talk]]) 01:31, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

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April 21

Pop music that gets borrowed into Christian hymns?

Beethoven's Ode To Joy (classical) gets borrowed into the Christian hymn, "Joyful Joyful We Adore Thee". What about other musical genres? Are there rock-and-roll music, disco music, rap music, metal music, jazz music, or blues music that gets borrowed into Christian hymns? 140.254.229.116 (talk) 13:33, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Greensleeves, a traditional English folk song, has been made into Christmas songs. See Greensleeves#Alternative_lyrics. StuRat (talk) 15:22, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Quite a few folk tunes actually: Kingsfold, Londonderry Air, The Ash Grove and O Waly Waly spring to mind. Alansplodge (talk) 17:37, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you count puppet shows as hymns, here are two subverting "Rock and Roll All Nite" (and six other parodies of songs I don't know, but seem popular). InedibleHulk (talk) 16:58, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
This is not exactly to the point of your question, but if you weren't aware of them, Stryper might be of interest. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 18:46, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Or one of their flock. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:02, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
One does sometimes hear a hymn to Krishna being sung by some of the more happy-clappy sorts of Christians. DuncanHill (talk) 18:53, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The original tune being a hymn to a cute boy. --Jayron32 19:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There's a modern hymn called "Give Thanks" by Don Moen, which owes rather a lot to "Go West" by the Village People. Here's a video showing the similarity. Versatile song, also adapted as the rugby anthem Stand Up for the Ulstermen. --Nicknack009 (talk) 19:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In my misspent youth as an evangelical Christian, I knew quite a few kids who started bands doing covers of secular songs with rewritten Christian lyrics. This thread has prompted me to discover they're still at it, only instead of playing to a couple of dozen people in the church hall they're putting their cringeworthy abominations on Youtube. Here are rewitten Christian versions of Katy Perry's "Firework", Adele's "Rolling in the Deep", Lady Gaga's "Born This Way", Carly Rae Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe" and Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk". I am so, so sorry. --Nicknack009 (talk) 19:25, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Nicknack009: You should be sorry, those are terrible. "Born this way" is an odd choice for an evangelical re-write. Or maybe the perfect choice? Anyway, I thought you might appreciate Hank Hill's thoughts on the subject [1] :) SemanticMantis (talk) 21:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hank is wise. --Nicknack009 (talk) 08:40, 22 April 2016 (UTC) [reply]
There was a hodgepodge in California called Jesus music. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:08, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
Pachelbel's Canon begot "Christmas Canon" (and "Go West", kind of). InedibleHulk (talk) 19:13, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
(And Oasis's "Whatever") --TammyMoet (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"C U When U Get There" sort of feels like a sermon. Not exactly Christian, and Coolio's only some sort of monotheist, but "Shepherd's Paradise" by ApologetiX is definitely lifted from the good book. They screwed with "Wonderwall", too. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:59, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
Back in my teenage years I spent many hours writing Christian lyrics to modern popular music. Anyway, off the top of my head, the Christmas carol "While Shepherds Watched" often gets sung to the tune of "Ilkley Moor Baht 'At" in Yorkshire. And William Booth, the founder of the Salvation Army, is reputed to have said "Why should the Devil get all the good music?" when asked why he wrote hymns that were based on the popular music of his day. So you could say any Salvation Army hymn, really. And you could also make a case for spirituals becoming jazz tunes, especially as played in New Orleans or Dixieland Jazz. --TammyMoet (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Although Booth popularized the phrase, the original author is either Rowland Hill - not the chap who invented stamps - or George Whitefield. Tevildo (talk) 07:57, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I used Lean on Me (song) unchanged as the Recessional during a Catholic Mass once. Mingmingla (talk) 03:03, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I once heard Let it be sung as a tenor solo in an Anglican church service. Alansplodge (talk) 00:55, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Drew Carey Show silent end credits

I've been watching old reruns on Laff (TV network), and many have silent end credits. This seems unusual to me, as they have music during the opening credits and have even had musical episodes. One guess is that they originally had music, but didn't want to pay the royalties, so removed it. Another thought is that they were removed to allow for voice-overs describing upcoming shows (although they haven't actually done this so far). A third thought is that it's done as a tribute to somebody who died, but then I'd expect some text, too. Note that many episodes have the end credits over a final (gag) scene, but the episodes I noticed lack this scene, and often just have a still or even black screen as the credits roll. So maybe I should be asking why those episodes are missing this final scene. Any ideas ? StuRat (talk) 17:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any episodes on Youtube? If so, you could compare them, as they might be the original versions of shows. There is precedent for this. As I understand it, the DVD's for WKRP in Cincinnati lack some or all of the credits music, due to the royalty situation. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots03:17, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For WKRP, it's not just the end credits. One episode, I think it's the famous Thanksgiving episode, has Pink Floyd's Animals playing in the DJ booth. Arther Carlson comes in, looks at the album cover and says "There's a track on here called "Dogs"." To which Johnny replies, "I don't do requests." During the rebroadcast, the Pink Floyd music is replaced by some other music though the lines and scene are otherwise kept intact. Dismas|(talk) 16:07, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps if the plot of the episode ended on a tragic event, the episode ended without a gag and with a silent credit sequence. (Your question was posted at 1:13 PM Eastern time, right after Laff broadcast the Drew Carey Show episode "All Work and No Play" from 12:30 PM to 1 PM Eastern time. Wikipedia's List of The Drew Carey Show episodes says the plot of that episode includes Drew being in an accident and lists the next episode is "Drew's in a Coma".) But if you've seen many episodes with silent credits and no final gag, there are likely other reasons also. --Bavi H (talk) 03:26, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Interestingly, the "Drew's in a Coma" episode does have the gag reel at the end. StuRat (talk) 17:04, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Could well be a licensing issue. Google around for Grey's Anatomy, The Wonder Years, WKRP in Cincinnati. Those are just the most famous shows I know of where people have complained because the music in syndication/DVD is not the same as the music in original broadcast. SemanticMantis (talk) 19:27, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that is because they use "hit songs". That is, songs that are likely to make a profit. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:00, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

April 22

Prince changed his name to an unpronounceable symbol (File:Prince logo.svg, also known as the "Love Symbol"). Was this a legal name change? Or just a stage name? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:09, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It was just an element in his dispute with his record company. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots03:02, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. He changed his name due to a dispute with his record company. I am asking if he legally changed his name; or he simply changed his stage name. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:08, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There's no indication that he legally changed his name. Both "Prince" and that symbol were merely "stage names". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:52, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Prince" was his legal first name from birth, much like "Madonna". StuRat (talk) 05:22, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
True, but using just your first name amounts to a stage name. It's not unusual in the entertainment world: Dagmar, Fabian, Ann-Margret, Dion, Adele - a few others that come to mind. Sometimes pop stars become identifiable by just their first names, even if they normally use their full names. Elvis, for one. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots21:17, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"The artist formerly thought to be sane" is now "the artist formerly known as alive". StuRat (talk) 03:21, 22 April 2016 (UTC) [reply]
PS: Does anyone know if having a crazy character in the title will mess up archiving ? StuRat (talk) 03:23, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's a picture file, not a character, so the question is whether a picture file will be pulled into the archive. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots03:25, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This article claims that he didn't legally change his name. -- BenRG (talk) 18:21, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So, this brings me to my follow-up question. Which is: Can a person legally change their name to a symbol, or perhaps a letter, or a number, or a punctuation mark, or something odd like that? Is this allowed? (In the United States, but elsewhere would also be of interest.) Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:02, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They can try, but it doesn't mean they'll succeed. In general, in the US you can call yourself anything you want to, as long as there's no fraud involved. But legally changing your name is another matter. Marilyn Monroe was her stage name, but she retained her real first and middle names, Norma Jean, on legal documents. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots21:12, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Only her first and middle names? Her surname was never Monroe by birth or marriage. --69.159.61.172 (talk) 02:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, her surname changed every time she married. Norma Jean DiMaggo, for example. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:43, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In Sweden there is the famous case of Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Staecker (talk) 01:32, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It would be interesting in particular to know if people in China (or Taiwan or Japan) are allowed to change their name and invent a new character for it. --69.159.61.172 (talk) 02:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In Japan, only the roughly 3,000 kanji in the jōyō and jinmeiyō lists are allowed in names, so you can't just invent a kanji for yourself. I don't know the policy on names in foreign scripts. -- BenRG (talk) 05:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This article notes that a California man successfully changed his legal name to "Darren QX Bean!", but that a petition to be named "III" was denied. The California legal code seems to place no restrictions on what your name can be. Apparently the same is true in Pennsylvania. -- BenRG (talk) 06:09, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. As I was reading the above responses, it dawned on me that my question was ill-worded. Maybe I was not so much concerned with changing your name, but rather giving the name to a newborn instead (if that's even a distinction). So, can parents name their kid with a letter or number or the odd punctuation sign, etc.? That was the better question, really. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:50, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Was the TV show Hardcore Pawn cancelled?

Does anyone know anything about the Hardcore Pawn TV show? Is it still on? I can never seem to find it? I mean new episodes, not old repeats. But I can't even find the old repeats, either. The Wikipedia article states that it is still presently running. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like Ashley Gold has left the show, which hasn't aired since last April. So, while they haven't officially cancelled the show, it's on hiatus at the very least: [2]. StuRat (talk) 17:13, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't some of the guys from that show gotten into legal trouble recently? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots20:36, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, that was the other Pawn Shop show (which is called Pawn Stars). This guy's page (Chumlee) details some of his legal issues. I believe, domestic violence? Maybe drugs? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:56, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What year did CD's surpass vinyl record sales?

What year did CD's outsell vinyl records? --Augustous (talk) 22:51, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Several Internet sources (just google for "cds outsold vinyl") say it was 1988. --69.159.61.172 (talk) 02:48, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Timeline of audio formats has some further context. Just to note that, by the time CDs started outselling vinyl, compact cassettes had already surpassed vinyl sales (by 1983). CDs seem to have become the most popular media for music by 1988 or 1989, but they presumably must have surpassed vinyl before that. Here is a really good overview. Matt Deres (talk) 20:02, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

April 23

Tripping in the bathroom

Was there some recent incident in which a pop star stumbled in a bathroom, perhaps hitting his head or otherwise hurting himself? Most of the lyrics to Lorde's "Royals" make sense as general things (e.g. one often hears of a famous-for-being-famous person who trashes a hotel room), but "tripping in the bathroom" seems unusually specific and potentially accidental (anyone can trip in the bathroom; there are even lawyers specialising in it), so I can't understand how it fits into this song that otherwise mocks the lifestyle of the famous-for-being-famous crowd. Nyttend (talk) 04:04, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Probably open to interpretation, too, but see also meaning 7 of the verb "to trip": "To experience a state of reverie or to hallucinate, due to consuming psychoactive drugs." ---Sluzzelin talk 04:16, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The context of the Lorde song makes Sluzzelin's definition plainly clear. --Jayron32 23:49, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
From Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, a nice little scene with Flea_(musician) about tripping in the bathroom - [3]. Obviously lots of people other than Hunter Thompson have tripped in bathrooms, but if Lorde was intending to reference anything in particular, that's as good a bet as any. SemanticMantis (talk) 14:42, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note that getting high is often done in the bathroom at parties and such, where they can have some privacy from the police or others who might "bogart" their drugs. StuRat (talk) 04:43, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
^^ In which Stu advertises that he has never in fact gotten high in a bathroom at a party or such :) SemanticMantis (talk) 14:42, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That scenario seems to turn up in a lot of crime shows and the like. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Thomas of KIQQ

With all the Prince stuff in the news, I have to admit ... mostly what the name makes me recall were the "Prince Makes Me Puke" T-shirts from the 1980s. :) Searching these on the web, they come with the preface "KIQQ and Jeff Thomas say:" (I can't recall if that was true of the ones I actually saw, which were in the eastern U.S.)

Anyway, KIQQ is covered under KSWD (FM) - apparently the station lasted only a few years after the shirts before being doused with an "easy listening" format. Now there is something that will make you puke.

Question is, whither Jeff Thomas? Did he ever bury the hatchet with Prince? What happened to him? We have an article Jeff T. Thomas, who actually lives near Los Angeles, but I am 99% percent sure that's not him, because that guy is British and the YouTube recording I happened across of Jeff Thomas sounded very American. Wnt (talk) 13:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This site describes him as "Actor, now living in Los Angeles". I'm not sure what the range of "now" is. Unfortunately, as "Jeff Thomas" isn't an uncommon name and there are lots of actors in Los Angeles, more precise details are proving difficult to isolate. Tevildo (talk)
OMFG, it would take the Terminator weeks to go through all that. Wnt (talk) 17:41, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

April 24

Combat games: what is currently highly praised of a:

Combat Tank Simulator PC game
Combat Flight Simulator PC game
[Combat] Boat/Speed Boat Simulator PC game
[Combat] Helicoptor Simulator PC game
Combat Space Simulator PC game

Apostle (talk) 10:07, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Google searches like best Combat Tank Simulator PC game will probably give better results than asking here. Staecker (talk) 13:28, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I know, there are many web pages to go through in that way too. I kind of need to save my kbs for adult videos... Can you guys help if you guys don't mind please? -- Apostle (talk) 18:22, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
World_of_Tanks maybe. SemanticMantis (talk) 14:55, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
[4] -- Apostle (talk) 20:09, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not current, but highly praised in it's time: Star_Wars:_X-Wing_(series). SemanticMantis (talk) 14:56, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
☺ Only the name is good...nothing else... Who's the main character again? Is/Was he in the new Star Wars movie? -- Apostle (talk) 20:09, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know if there is any more peeps. Whatever is rated "good" in the websites... -- Apostle (talk) 20:09, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Whether there is [sic] any more peeps is a question not unlike "Is there honey still for tea". It depends. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 23:49, 26 April 2016 (UTC) [reply]
[5] -- Apostle (talk) 20:13, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

April 25

Word used in the film Philadelphia Experiment II

In the film Philadelphia Experiment II, the character Dr. Friedrich Mahler (played by Gerrit Graham) of the alternate timeline uses the word "Schomeague" (I'm not sure how it's spelt) for occupied USA. Any ideas what the word means (and what the proper spelling is) ? 194.74.238.137 (talk) 14:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How far into the movie was it used? -- ToE 15:26, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
At about the 5:30 mark of this segment,[6] Gerrit Graham refers to the US as "Show-Me country". Like Missouri's motto, "The Show-Me State". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this is what he said, but I believe he refers to the state of Missouri when he says "Show Me country", not meaning "country" as in "nation", but rather as in "area of land". StuRat (talk) 16:05, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Either way, he's saying "show me".
Near the end of the movie, Graham refers to himself as his father's (also Graham) "fili" or some such. Any idea what the proper German spelling of that word is? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots16:15, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Could it be Italian figlio /ˈfiʎːo/ 'son'? —Tamfang (talk) 19:59, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe a related word, or maybe the scriptwriter made a mistake. It's German, and it actually sounds like "fee-lee". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots20:03, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you know German, go to about the 35 second mark of this item.[7] The subtitles are in something other than English, but are not German. It says "FILI", which is how he says it, but I don't know how it would be spelled in German. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots20:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Game of Thrones April 24 (spoilers)

1. Where was Bronn? Didn't he leave with Jamie at the end of Season 5? 2. According to EW, Melisandre's body from the neck down was that of an elderly woman body double. I had never seen a nude elderly woman before. I noticed that her breasts were not wrinkly at all; they were quite smooth, although they sagged greatly. Is that normal -- do breasts not get wrinkly? 173.17.170.8 (talk) 14:39, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on the individual. Difficult to think of a Reliable Source, but assuming you're over the relevant legal age in your jurisdiction, go to one or other of your favorite porn sites and select the category or tag "mature". {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 18:25, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It should be noted that people do not all age in the same way. Some will get wrinkly and some wont. BTW as I was watching that seen I was taken right back to 1980 and the memory of watching this scene from The Shining for the first time. MarnetteD|Talk 23:07, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Silent film

Does anyone know the name of a surreal silent film from around 1910 with two people who fight, then paranormal things happen and then they disappear, while afterwards it shows, I think, inanimate objects coming to life.--46.198.188.133 (talk) 23:20, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is more than likely a film by the brilliant Georges Méliès. Unfortunately, what you describe is the story-line for several of his films. The films of his that still exists were brought out in a couple DVD sets last decade or you could check what is available to see on the net. Of course it could be another director but GM's films are among the most shown from that era. Also another editor may well know the title of the specific film you are asking about. MarnetteD|Talk 23:50, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He was working somewhat later, but surrealist film is also associated with Luis Buñuel. Category:Surrealist filmmakers may also lead you some places. --Jayron32 00:45, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The aesthetics of that film were almost certainly un-Buñuelish. 46.198.188.133 (talk) 01:40, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

April 26

11th overtone starting on C

Is it F or F?? I thought it was F, but one site says it's F. Georgia guy (talk) 14:32, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See eleventh chord. There are a LOT of conventions for constructing an 11th chord, and depending on which convention you use (basically which musical mode or musical key you are working from) than the 11th from C could be either an F or an F#. Just saying "what is the 11th from C" isn't enough information to determine if it should be an F or an F#. It depends. --Jayron32 14:48, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The 11th harmonic of C is almost exactly halfway between F and F, and it seems to me that one would get a better idea of its sound by thinking of it as Fhalf sharp (F-half-sharp). If you insist on picking one, though, it is 2 cents closer to F than it is to F. Double sharp (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On the keyboard, we don't have this note. But do they have it on instruments such as the violin?? Georgia guy (talk) 15:30, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure; just put your finger on the fingerboard close to midway between where it should be for F and where it should be for F-sharp. Double sharp (talk) 15:35, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Natural horns, bugles, alphorns have it, for example. German Wikipedia actually has an article on this tone: de:Alphorn-Fa. English WP doesn't, unfortunately, though it does have a subsection "eleventh harmonic" in the tritone article. ---Sluzzelin talk 16:29, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The technique of lowering the 11:8 (alphorn-fa) on natural horns by hand-stopping to 4:3 (the true perfect fourth) is not new at all, so the former pitch must have been known since the advent of natural horns and trumpets. They are even occasionally called for. In Mozart's A Musical Joke, the 2nd movement appears to have the first hornist mistake dolce for meaning "unstopped", and as a result boldly issues forth the quarter-tone-out 11th and 13th harmonics instead of the intended perfect fourth and major sixth! Double sharp (talk) 01:24, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • On the issue of half-sharps and the like: There are an infinite number of notes one can play on a violin; in just intonation and instruments tuned to such, it is trivial for a well-trained musician to match a tone by ear and then learn by muscle memory where to place one's fingers to recreate that note. For fretted stringed instruments or keyboard instruments, there are a finite set of notes one can play, generally these are tuned to a chromatic scale where each key is exactly one semitone above the previous key. This is actually impossible in true just intonation to do correctly, so a "fudge factor" needs to be put onto the notes to make the instrument tune correctly; this fudge factor is called a musical temperament and the one used in modern tunings is called equal temperament. On a piano, such a thing as a half-sharp is impossible to play. On a guitar or other fretted instrument, one can employ string bending to get to it. --Jayron32 16:50, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(Unless of course you retune your piano, but that's a very expensive solution, and tuning every string up a quarter-step will put enough extra tension on the frame to make playing it a very risky proposition!) Double sharp (talk) 01:19, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also, many popular synthesizers and Electronic_keyboards etc. allow one to easily change the tuning or scale, sometimes by very small increments such as a cent_(music) at a time. SemanticMantis (talk) 13:12, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

April 27

Formal musical term for that low-pitched sound at the end of a melodic progression of notes?

I have very little formal music education, other than the elementary-level piano lessons I took when I was younger or the recorder and guitar lessons in public schools. I don't know much about the formal terminology, so I can't articulate what I see on the sheet music or hear. Anyway, I observe that many music sheets have this one-note or two-note thing, played by the left hand, at the end of a melodic progression of notes, played by the right hand. Upon hearing these notes, they sound like a period of a sentence. If the music has lyrics, then the notes would appear behind the singer's voice or in the middle of a long held note.

Also, what is it called when the left hand's music seems to mirror the right hand's music like an echo? 140.254.77.204 (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're hearing Resolution_(music). That is not precisely about the low notes on the left hand -- resolution is generally about moving through a chord progression and returning to a chord with more consonance. However, often that resolution is accompanied a few low notes on the left hand, see e.g. the examples at the first link. But there may be other terms and things going on, so I too will be looking at further responses with interest :) SemanticMantis (talk) 14:48, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with SemanticMantis, and also you may find Ground bass and Cadence worth looking at. --TammyMoet (talk) 14:54, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In my experience, a common name for a single bass note at the end of a piece or song is button note, but I see we don't have an article, and googling finds nothing: does anyone else know this term? AndrewWTaylor (talk) 17:16, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To answer the second question, "when the left hand's music seems to mirror the right hand's music like an echo" is a Canon (music). Tevildo (talk) 20:15, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Father Ted - Ted calling Jack 'Father Jack' and 'Father'

In the Irish sitcom Father Ted, why does Father Ted Crilly call Father Jack Hackett 'Father Jack' and 'Father' rather than just 'Jack'? 86.169.72.176 (talk) 18:53, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Because that's what priests call each other, or so pop culture has it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots19:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

April 28

Vaya con Dios

Does anyone happen to know the details of the relationship between Dani Klein and her bassist Dirk Schoufs, and what led to their falling out? It says in the article that they had a "close collaboration" but he left the band after a "serious falling out" and died a short time later from alcohol and drugs (and it's hinted in another article that his death sent her into deep depression) -- does anyone happen to know more? Also, was he abusing drugs before the falling-out (as I surmise he was) -- maybe she tried to get him to sober up, and that's what led to their parting ways? 2601:646:8E01:515D:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B (talk) 01:31, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]