Talk:Tonya Harding

January 1994 incident

Seriously? Tonya Harding wouldn't be known by ANYONE today if it weren't for her involvement in the attack on Nancy Kerrigan, and her Wikipedia article buries this as "January 1994 incident"? I should go check OJ Simpson's Wikipedia page to see if it says, "Alleged scuffle with wife and waiter."

"SERIOUSLY," do you have a name? Do you exist in real life? If you do, then sign your freaking name to your posts. That way, we know you're not some elf cutely hopping in and out of Wikipedia controversies without leaving the imprint of its tiny foot. Thank you. Younggoldchip (talk) 17:09, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I agree that the attack on Nancy Kerrigan is what Tonya Harding is best known for and deserves more prominence in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.131.204 (talk) 18:47, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Tonya Harding became notable in her field in 1991 when she was the first American female to land the triple axel in competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8xdflx1Q0s She became notable in her field three years before the attack on Nancy Kerrigan, which occurred in 1994. Tonya's connection to the attack on Nancy Kerrigan -- which Tonya herself did not perform -- is not all that Tonya is notable for. Further, Tonya herself did not perform the attack on Nancy Kerrigan, and Tonya was never accused of personally performing the attack. The man who did perform the attack, Shane Stant, recently told Inside Edition that he never even met Tonya Harding, was never even in the same room with her, and no one ever said to him "this is what Tonya wants you to do": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx6bWVP4U5U Tonya was never found guilty of helping plan the attack. All she pled guilty to was hindering prosecution, which means that she didn't come forward as soon as she learned what had happened "after-the-fact." This is a biography of a living person and therefore must adhere to these rules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons There is absolutely no comparison possible between the situation with Tonya Harding, and the situation with O.J. Simpson. Nancy Kerrigan was not murdered, and Tonya was never on trial for murder. Andrew Parodi (talk) 03:13, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Undue weight

It appears to me that it is undue weight to give an entire section called "series of incidents." These incidents usually happened in the context of her competitions, which she usually won. I think these should be integrated into the larger body of the article. It seems unfair to give them an entire section of their own. Skatefan2014 (talk) 22:04, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of removing the section titled "series of incidences." As Tonya and Nancy are forever linked, it seems only fair to me that their pages be used as comparisons for one another. While Nancy's page does have a section about controversy she endured after the Olympics [1], there is no section in her article to match the "series of incidences" section in Tonya's article. And the post-Olympics controversy in Tonya's life is covered very well in the article already, integrated into the body of the section about the controversy in 1994 (as well as the "later celebrity" section: [2]). It just seems to be on the verge of defamation of character to have a section which consists of nothing more than a list of every misdeed in Tonya's career. We need to remember that this is a biography of a living person! Skatefan2014 (talk) 18:24, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Are you kidding? If it weren't for those incidents, Tonya Harding would be another in a list of thousands of Olympians that nobody's ever heard of. She's not famous, she's notorious. She chose that route, and it's completely accurate and correct that she be shown in her Wikipedia to be the infamous figure that she truly has become.

"ARE YOU KIDDING," you do know your name, right? So sign it. By the way, your comments have a wee POV problem in that you fiercely accuse Harding of mayhem without proof. Once and for all: she has never, ever, admitted to knowing in advance that her idiot husband was planning the attack. Nor does any proof exist that she did know. Her husband claimed that she did, after his lawyer explained to him the plea-bargaining benefits if he threw Harding to the wolves.And that is all we know for sure. Younggoldchip (talk) 17:17, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Attack on Kerrigan subsection: more undue weight

I believe another instance of undue weight is the subsection "Attack on Kerrigan." I'm not arguing that the attack shouldn't be mentioned. Obviously, it should be mentioned. I'm arguing that it is mentioned in the wrong section. The subsection "Attack on Kerrigan" is under the main header titled "Skating career," giving the false impression that the attack on Kerrigan was a part of Tonya's career -- which seems to imply that Tonya herself attacked Kerrigan! (Sarah Marshall writes that this is a new morph of the 1994 attack, some people believing Tonya did it herself. [3]) Kerrigan's page devotes an entire main section to the attack, with the general title of "January 1994 attack": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Kerrigan#January_1994_attack . I propose a similarly neutral section on this Tonya Harding page. Skatefan2014 (talk) 02:27, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Tonya Harding was not merely "implicated" in the attack, she was charged, convicted, and sentenced in a court of law. More on that (https://www.yahoo.com/news/never-seen-evidence-emerges-case-171446528.html). Attempts to diminish her role require both suspension of logic and willful ignorance of the facts.2601:281:C204:6170:F189:6463:4956:BE58 (talk) 19:31, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Tonya Harding has never been found guilty of the attack. She was found guilty of obstructing justice by attempting to protect her sleazebag husband, after learning of his involvement. Younggoldchip (talk) 17:22, 9 February 2018 (UTC)