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Better late than never

Athaenara,

I'm not sure why we haven't run into each other before. But since it's always "Better late than never" - keep up the good work! Smallbones_(smalltalk) 02:47, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, man. – Athaenara ✉ 13:58, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Footprint Features

Back in July, another employee at Footprint Features tried to start a page without disclosing a conflict of interest. The company has been featured in more sources since then, with another Netflix Original film coming out next month. Would it be possible for me to run another draft of a page with sources past you? Please let me know.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KindnessOfStrangers (talk • contribs) 20:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you asking me? – Athaenara ✉ 01:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It shows you as having deleted the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KindnessOfStrangers (talk • contribs) 01:16, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted the draft page (once), Jimfbleak deleted the article (twice). What makes you think that I would want to help you establish an article in this encyclopedia (it's not a euphemism) to promote your company? – Athaenara ✉ 01:21, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway, never mind that. You can post your concerns on WP:COIN. – Athaenara ✉ 01:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chromocell Corporation

You recently recommended deletion of a page that I created for "Chromocell Corporation"

I would like to ensure that I adhere to Wikipedia policies and did not intend for the article/submission to come off as an advertisement of sorts. I have re-worded the article and attempted to write from a neutral point of view. I have copied and pasted it below (not sure if you would have time to, or are able to review it here before I re-submit for review). I just did not want to keep submitting if it is nowhere near ready for publication. I would really appreciate any feedback you can provide. Thank you so very much.

[spam redacted]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kushalmshah (talk • contribs) 19:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you're trying to use this encyclopedia to promote your company, you'll get no help from me. – Athaenara ✉ 19:14, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly appreciate that you are preserving the integrity of Wikipedia. This is why I am genuinely reaching out and asking for help. I am by no means trying to use this as a platform to promote the company. I am hoping you can help me to understand the portions of my writing that are coming off as promotional so I can correct before re-submitting. Hope you can help. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kushalmshah (talk • contribs) 16:57, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Recommendation: post your concerns on the conflict of interest noticeboard. – Athaenara ✉ 20:18, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Muneesh Sappel

Hi,

I would like to inform you that this article is false and utter rubbish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muneesh_Sappel and should be deleted immediately. In future, we should make it the point that only admin can create this article.

I am sending you because you are in this article’s View History and you took initiative earlier to delete this article and ignored it later. Muneesh Sappel took advantage of this and written more rubbish than his previous articles.

He is using wikipedia page for his publicity and propaganda. I am quiet shocked there is no article about him on Indian newspapers and on google, what you find one …. Is only one liner. Even images on google also posted by him….. not a single newspaper photos.

In his article most of the awards has won by other cast/ crew but he is showing in his article like he won!!!

Please do see his sixth article which he has written again in 2015: He says he is “Indian and International production designer, art director, costume designer, hair and make-up artist” but there is not a single hint about AWARDS. In his recent updated version he won so many awards, he has become now Indian production designer, art director and costume designer from previous claiming being INTERNATIONAL production designer…

Now he has become an actor, writer, director, poster design, publicity set construction, theatrographer, production assistant, art director… blah blah….

His article deleted many times since past (10 – 12) years and I see he writes article about himself again…. than some same user:Sapna Shrivastav: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SAPNA_SHRIVASTAV who use to write earlier on fake name user:Shruti Narayanan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shruti95Narayanan takes-over…..

“CONFLICT OF INTEREST”

He is a paid IMDB member, which you can understand… if you are not IMDB paid member. You can’t write anything. Rediff References are bullshit because Sapna Shrivastav works at Rediff. Just see how cleverly he created and designed false newspaper article for reference on his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=551791188210278&set=a.345572122165520.79274.100001382062100&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=542341122488618&set=a.345572122165520.79274.100001382062100&type=1&theater

How someone could use his website as reference, he used it: http://www.indianproductiondesigner.com/PL/profile.php?ref_=nm_awd

For your reference (since 2010 his articles are getting deleted.): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Muneeshsappel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Muneeshsappel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.59.158.153 (talk) 20:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why you posted here. Other than having deleted one of his spam pages in 2015 (log), I've never heard of him. – Athaenara ✉ 20:36, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If it makes you feel any better, two other users and I got the same cut-and-paste tirade from another IP in that range. [1]

Is there enough evidence for WP:SPI about those WP:SPAs that were IMDb-carpet-bombing that article? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My technical knowledge of SPIs is nearly nil, I just remember seeing comments here and there that some accounts are "too old" to check, and most or all of those four accounts are old. I think the tags and the resulting category links are useful with or without SPIs and with or without creating the actual category.

We could block all those SPAs and just await events. He/they will either give up or come back and register yet another account to re-create content which some naive administrator gave him/them or which he/they saved somewhere else.

Or we could do nothing and await events (if any). – Athaenara ✉ 22:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Noraft

I don't understand this edit of yours. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Magnitude Software

Athaenara,

Excuse me, but who are you to delete a page purely on speculation? Don't you have better things to do? I don't know who Chandalupa is. It's true that I work for Magnitude Software but I don't work in Marketing and I am not paid for editing the Wikipedia. Besides, who else is going to work on the company's page if not for the people who work there? Did you also delete IBM and Informatica's pages for "unambiguous advertising"?

I made some updates to the page because I like my company a lot and I'm passionate about what we do. I am sorry if the changes I made weren't "encyclopediac" enough; I am very new to editing on Wikipedia. Still, that is no reason to eschew communication and proceed directly to deletion.

Why didn't you talk to me before deleting this page? I am more than willing to put in the work to make it meet your editorial standards. But I am honestly furious that you had the gall to do this and I will do everything in my power to get it back. Explain yourself!

P.S. I can prove that I am not Chandalupa. Google "Sara Singh Magnitude Software" and you will see my LinkedIn. I started at the company in October. Chandalupa was making edits to Magnitude/Noetix as far back as 2011. In 2011, I was 14 years old. Please untag me from the sockpuppets list and restore the Magnitude Software page.

Ssingher (talk) 18:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I disabled the sockpuppet tag on your user page. Unfortunately, there is no earlier version of the page about your company to be restored which is not unambiguous advertising or promotion. – Athaenara ✉ 21:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, user Chrissymad (talk · contribs) brought the page to Wikipedia administrators' attention by adding the {{Db-g11}} tag to it. You might drop her a line asking her to warn editors of such pages with a {{Db-spam-notice}}. – Athaenara ✉ 21:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Athaenara I did notify the creator and I'd hardly call the few promotional edits to it significant enough to go down the whole list of everyone though. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 21:52, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. I noticed the three single-purpose accounts in the page history, so those are the ones I would have notified. – Athaenara ✉ 21:56, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are lucky that Athaenara did not block you and the creator for being spam-only accounts. It is the approach I have started taking to obvious spammers of G11 articles. I do not want to speak for her, but if you decide to recreate it, try the WP:AFC process, and don't publish directly into mainspace. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please explain what exact language was so unambiguously promotional? The only part I can think of is the brief section on awards/recognition. I can take that out, but I honestly don't see how the rest of the article could possibly be construed as unambiguous advertising. It isn't any less neutral than the articles for other technology companies. I'm sorry we don't have more scandals to talk about. Why does the whole page have to disappear because I mentioned an industry award? On Informatica's history section, it says "In December 2015, Gartner recognized Informatica in its December 2015 Magic Quadrant for Data Masking Technology report." And look at IBM's brand and recognition section! Is this not a double standard? They didn't get taken down, so how was I supposed to know not to model the Magnitude page after the pages of similar companies? Ssingher (talk) 14:39, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Just to say that Informatica no longer says that. WP:OTHERSTUFF is a common argument, but doesn't hold any weight here. SmartSE (talk) 15:26, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The No Spam Barnstar
	For your work on the admin side of the spam issue. We have so much to fight against in this field, and a relatively small group of admins who are working there. Your presence is noticed and appreciated. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks! – Athaenara ✉ 22:02, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Imosley/sandbox Text Retreival Request

Hi Athaenara,

I didn't realize that I published the article in my sandbox, and didn't think anybody could see it but me. I was under the impression that I just saved it. I still have a bunch of editing to do and was going to transfer the text over to the legitimate page I was working on once completed and reviewed by my peers. May I have the text back? I spent a lot of time working on it and would hate to have to start over. I will make sure not to publish and just save my sandbox going forward. Thank you!

Best,

Imani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imosley (talk • contribs) 14:34, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It was unambiguous advertising and promotion and as such tagged by Adityavagarwal (talk · contribs) and deleted by me. – Athaenara ✉ 22:10, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As it's obvious you're intent upon advertising and promoting the "Bridge Investment Group LLC", I strongly recommend that you post a {{paid}} disclosure as required, pronto. – Athaenara ✉ 22:30, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Imosley We look forward to your new article! Also kindly see WP:REFUND so that you could receive your deleted article on mail. Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Imosley is a COI SPA trying to promote her company on Wikipedia; see more extended discussion on her talk page. – Athaenara ✉ 06:03, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of coffee for you!

For blocking A vandal in India related articles Adamstraw99 (talk) 13:53, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Dujdidijdbsbsnsoaoso/somthing.js

Hello. Thank you for speedy deleting the userpages a short while ago. I wondered if you could have a look at this JS page? There is some text in the middle, which appears to be advertising pizzas. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 11:54, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Very odd page, and sole contrib from that user. Thanks for the heads up. – Athaenara ✉ 12:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Icelandic Provisions

Page Deleted

Hi - johnsaavn here! Want to make you happy and will absolutely play by the Wikipedia rules! You have removed a page Icelandic Provisions based on a7 and g11 objections (notability/advertisement). Let me make some alterations - happy to improve the page - but also, let me share some info first. Re: notability. This is a product with ~100,000,000 USD or so in annual sales in major stores across the USA. I'll see if I can get some stats on that (which should solve the notability issue). Also, it's been written about in sources (many of which I cited) like New York Times, Bon Apetit, WSJ, Marie Claire, Food Network and such. Many were already cited but happy to add more... On the advertisement part, I will re-do the page to make sure all citations do not have a PR-flavor; we did a lot of that already, but we can strip out adjectives and such to make it strictly fact-based to meet the requirements better. Give me a couple of days, and we will do better. Thank you for upholding Wikipedia standards; sorry if we erred on our initial foray here, but we will make changes requested to address your concerns and hopefully, get the page live. I will make you happy here - I promise! Thanks! Johnsaavn (talk) 18:48, 27 February 2018 (UTC)johnsaavn[reply]

The version I deleted in June 2017 had been written by Osaeip (talk · contribs). I had not seen your version until after you brought it to my attention here.

I have to thank you for giving me a laugh today, I feel like the mother in that ad where the kid comes to the door telling his parents about his extremely minor accident and how brilliant they were for getting that insurance coverage. What's her line, no car for ~~two~~ four* weeks? – Athaenara ✉ 01:18, 28 February 2018 (UTC) A. 02:16, 28 February 2018 (UTC)*[reply]

Speedy deletion of Ericom Connect

I'm the author of the Ericom Connect page that you deleted. I see from what you posted on your talk page you don't like paid editors. We all can have our biases, but I believe as long as an article otherwise meets the criteria for publication on Wikipedia, it shouldn't be deleted. The above referenced article had valid citations from sources other than the company's website. The page was deleted so quickly I didn't even get a chance to contest it. New Dork City tried to delete the page, and Chrissymad stopped him. I thought it was taken care of, so I was quite surprised to the page actually got deleted after that. If there is a problem with the citations or some other issue with the page, please let me know, and I'll correct it. I think it's very unfair for someone to just say, "well I think this is promotion" and delete an article. The article I did for Ericom was very similar to the article about Citrix's XenApp - XenApp . I'd also like to get a copy of the deleted article back. I wasn't aware of how quickly an article could be deleted, I now know to archive it myself as HTML. I can redo it and repost the article, but it's rather tedious doing so from Word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabcfi (talk • contribs) 21:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby Kalotee

Bobby kalotee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Bobby Kalotee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Draft:Bobby Kalotee (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (Mfd)
Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 128#Draft:Bobby Kalotee
Special:Contributions/Sagar vaibhav, Commons:Special:Contributions/Sagar vaibhav

Hello Athaenara kindly review my sandbox where I've edited my page on Bobby. Let me know if his passes all the Wiki tests and requirements. If possible kindly point what exactly conflicts and what needs to be edited. Your help is highly appreciated and will enable me to launch my first wikipedia page and contribute in a correct way to the world's largest encylopedia. Sagar vaibhav (talk) 20:49, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Draft: Volt Europa

Hi Athaenara, you deleted my draft of Volt Europa on the grounds that it was unambiguous advertising. To be honest, first, I don't think this is true. The article is framed neutrally and is stating facts without any positive judgement. There are multiple references to other sources. I cannot quote any critics because so far we have none and also won't make up criticism for the sake of ambiguity. Second, a number of people from our movement would like to work on the draft which you made impossible by deleting it. I don't know what is wrong with your principles but why would you just delete a draft and not provide a copy for us to edit? We are a small political movement with the best intentions and people sabotaging this without reason is the last thing we need. So I'd be really thankful for some comments on the deletion and a copy of the draft.--TiberiusvVS (talk) 10:24, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Vascon Engineers

183.87.184.139 has asked for a deletion review of Vascon Engineers. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 19:33, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Omar El Abd

Hi Athaenara, Hope all is well, I am managing Omar El Abd (omrr), recently you deleted both pages, i would like to clarify that omrr is the stage name of Omar El Abd, i setup the pages where omrr redirects to Omar El Abd, please let me know if it's possible to fix any issues and get it back online. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisemenandthepainters (talk • contribs) 06:30, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message,

I would like to clarify that the article created was not influenced by any means, Here on Wikipedia, editors helped and re-wrote my draft before approving, they made the necessary changes to make sure it complies. Hope you can re-consider. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisemenandthepainters (talk • contribs) 07:49, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Paris, New York and Me

Please restore Draft:Paris, New York and Me. I have found a reference that states the album was certified gold in France. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted as an abandoned draft, restored by Graeme Bartlett a few hours ago. – Athaenara ✉ 08:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Shapr (app)

Draft:Shapr (app) Please restore the page as I intend to work on it or email me the content.Davislee20 (talk) 01:09, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of InfoTrack

Hi Athaenara, You have removed a page InfoTrack based on a few objections. There is significant new information that has come to light since the creation of the article so please let me improve the page. This is a growing company across Australia and one which has been in the media a lot recently.The Company is well known in the legal industry and has been written about in a number of sources that I have cited. I can redo these to make it more fact-based and non-promotional to meet the guidelines. Please make the page live so that appropriate changes can be made. Thank you. Thehub2017 (talk) 04:10, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Will Phillips

Don't forget to clean up your leftovers when you delete a page. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:20, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shahab Pishanidar

Hello

I’m Shahab Pishanidar’s manager , he is an famous athlete from Iran. He has an Wikipedia account , Shahab pishanidar . There are always Profitable persons who wanted to get account by his name so that his main account has been blocked. He has Wikipedia in Persian but i want to restore his main account in english.if you need more information about him , i will get you any license you want to certify that it was his, himself , and it mistakenly blocked. How can i restore his main Wikipedia account? Soulmaz AP (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help to submit

Dear Athaenara, why i can’t submit article for Shahab.pishanidar ? His Account is block or his name? So many fake accounts tried to submit articles for him. He is an famous athlete in Iran, in car racing he got so many champions. How can i submit articles for him in Wikipedia English? Would you please help me do it ? Soulmaz AP (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You seem not to have read any of the replies to you and messages posted on your talk page about the inadvisability of the kind of promotional editing in which you have been engaging. If you wish to pursue this further, I recommend that you post your concerns (and be as clear as possible about who has been using which accounts) on the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. – Athaenara ✉ 04:09, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dear Athaenara Soulmaz AP (talk) 12:16, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion of Rajatsubhra Majumdar

Hi Athaenara, You have removed a page Rajatsubhra Majumdar based on a few objections. There is significant references added in the article so please let me improve the page. All the informations added in the article are true and authentic. I have deleted the copyrighted images as per the guidelines. Please make the page live so that appropriate changes can be made. Thank you.--Aparajita Majumdar (talk) 11:33, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Kropschot page

Hello,

The reason given for the previous deletion of the page for Joseph Kropschot was that he was considered non notable because he was an amateur mma fighter. That reason is nonlonger valid, as he is now a professional fighter. Is there a new reason why his page should be deleted? NorCal4Life (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Going pro in 2018", had his first professional fight and won it. I don't know why you're promoting him. My best advice is to wait until he acquires (if he does) sufficiently more notability to survive another AfD. – Athaenara ✉ 04:33, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Kropschot has six fights total as indicated on the wikipedia page, including his most recent fight after he turned professional. His overall fight record is 6-0, 5-0 as an amateur and 1-0 as a professional. I listed plenty of links that demonstrate this on his page. Before turning pro he was the number one ranked amateur in California. He also competes in professional grappling competitions, and is 2-0 in the professional grappling Fight to Win series. He has competed in and won numerous other grappling competitions. I am an MMA expert and pay particular attention to MMA in Northern California. Joseph Kropschot is, without a doubt, a notable MMA fighter, and any MMA expert or even casual fan would agree. I'm not trying to 'promote' anybody, but I would like people that want information on this fighter to have a non-biased source for this information. Considering the reason for the original deletion is no longer valid (Amateur fighters are not considered notable), and the original deletion was quoted as a reason for this deletion, I would like a new (valid) reason for the deletion of this page please. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NorCal4Life (talk • contribs) 22:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you would like to see Joseph Kropschot on television, he will be competing in the EBI Combat Jiu Jitsu competition this Saturday, September 29, 2018, available on pay per view and also televised on UFC Fight Pass.

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	Joseph Kropschot has six fights total as indicated on the wikipedia page, including his most recent fight after he turned professional. His overall fight record is 6-0, 5-0 as an amateur and 1-0 as a professional. I listed plenty of links that demonstrate this on his page. Before turning pro he was the number one ranked amateur in California. He also competes in professional grappling competitions, and is 2-0 in the professional grappling Fight to Win series. He has competed in and won numerous other grappling competitions. I am an MMA expert and pay particular attention to MMA in Northern California. Joseph Kropschot is, without a doubt, a notable MMA fighter, and any MMA expert or even casual fan would agree. I'm not trying to 'promote' anybody, but I would like people that want information on this fighter to have a non-biased source for this information. Considering the reason for the original deletion is no longer valid (Amateur fighters are not considered notable), and the original deletion was quoted as a reason for this deletion, I would like a new (valid) reason for the deletion of this page please. Thank you. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:NorCal4Life\|NorCal4Life]] ([[User talk:NorCal4Life#top\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NorCal4Life\|contribs]]) 22:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->		Joseph Kropschot has six fights total as indicated on the wikipedia page, including his most recent fight after he turned professional. His overall fight record is 6-0, 5-0 as an amateur and 1-0 as a professional. I listed plenty of links that demonstrate this on his page. Before turning pro he was the number one ranked amateur in California. He also competes in professional grappling competitions, and is 2-0 in the professional grappling Fight to Win series. He has competed in and won numerous other grappling competitions. I am an MMA expert and pay particular attention to MMA in Northern California. Joseph Kropschot is, without a doubt, a notable MMA fighter, and any MMA expert or even casual fan would agree. I'm not trying to 'promote' anybody, but I would like people that want information on this fighter to have a non-biased source for this information. Considering the reason for the original deletion is no longer valid (Amateur fighters are not considered notable), and the original deletion was quoted as a reason for this deletion, I would like a new (valid) reason for the deletion of this page please. Thank you. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:NorCal4Life\|NorCal4Life]] ([[User talk:NorCal4Life#top\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NorCal4Life\|contribs]]) 22:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			If you would like to see Joseph Kropschot on television, he will be competing in the EBI Combat Jiu Jitsu competition this Saturday, September 29, 2018, available on pay per view and also televised on UFC Fight Pass.

Numbered archives	discussion topics / subjects
0000	moving files to the commons
000	adminship
00	deletions
0	did you know, signatures, meetups
1	miscellaneous
2	biographies of living persons
3	third opinion project
4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11	conflict of interest