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May 20

chalk-marking thingie for sports field/pitch

Does Wikipedia have an article on this thing? Some models are called "line stripers" on google, but that redirects to Road surface marking which is paint-on-asphault. Some call them field chalk markers or dry line markers, but I can't seem to find anything on that, either. The article is The Tempestry Project which refers to an artist using one of these things in her work, but I had no idea what the source meant when it said she drew with a "chalk marker" until I found her website and a photo and went 'OHHH'. At any rate, I'd love to wikilink for other ignorant people if I could just find the article, if we have one. --valereee (talk) 13:03, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In the UK they're known as "line marking machines". Unfortunately on Wikipedia, that just redirects to "road surface marking", which is unhelpful. I don't think that we have an article, although someone will no doubt be along to point out my error. Mikenorton (talk) 16:54, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

With all the mainly-sports-interest-editors out there, I'm surprised there isn't at least a stub already lol! Maybe it's because to them this is DUH! territory --valereee (talk) 17:38, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Googling the subject yields "baseball field foul line dry marker" or some subset of those terms. There doesn't seem to be one predominant term. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:47, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Google results are dependent on the googler's location and past history. As another UK user, googling 'line marker' gives me mostly 'line marker(s) / marking machine(ry)' with occasional additions of words including 'sports' and/or 'field', as well of course as 'paint', 'liquid', 'spray' and 'dry line'. This seems to corroborate my personal experience (as a sports/athletics player and later as a facilities maintenance administrator) that, in the UK at any rate, 'Line marker' is the common and usual term. Unfortunately that title has already been employed for something completely different, so disambiguation will be needed. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 00:31, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Similar results on a search here in Canada. If there is to be a new article, I suggest naming it line marker (sports) and renaming the existing line marker to line marker (diving). --76.69.46.228 (talk) 02:26, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I'll create a stub, just to have something we can put a photo on. Thanks, all! ETA ugh, but notability...how on earth do I prove that lol? --valereee (talk) 12:07, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Does appearing in lots of online advertisements demonstrate notability? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:38, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Baseball Bugs, unlikely to, I'd think? I'm thinking there might have been coverage around the time it was invented, maybe? Or maybe something along the lines of a book on the history of sports field development? --valereee (talk) 14:38, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This may be helpful, and check out page 40 of the same book for a little on the history of their use. Mikenorton (talk) 14:18, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thanks, mikenorton! --valereee (talk) 14:39, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've created Draft:Line marker (sports), would love some input from people who have some expertise in sports, as I have none --valereee (talk) 17:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For another reference, see p. 5 of this publication relative to the maintenance of baseball fields [1]. The contraption is called a line marker and there is an illustration. Xuxl (talk) 19:01, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Xuxl, thank you! I'm hoping that'll be the third reliable source to prove notability! --valereee (talk) 19:20, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Don't exclude the marking of colored lines on a white surface, for hockey or curling. --76.69.46.228 (talk) 20:16, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

76.69.46.228, would love to include, do you have anything to source it? --valereee (talk) 20:25, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 21

John Wick 3 Plot Clarification

In John Wick 3, Sofia goes to see Berrada with 2 dogs. One is shot and shown laying on the ground. She leaves with 2 dogs. I saw nothing to explain what happened and it is nearly impossible to Google because anything that contains both Wick and Dog brings up unrelated topics. Was there a third hidden dog? Was the dog shot in a bullet-proof vest and, for some unknown reason, decided to lay still instead of acting like an injured dog? Is it a zombie dog? I assume that they shot the scenes of them leaving (with both dogs) before shooting the confrontation where the dog was shot. Instead of editing out the second dog, they just assumed nobody in the audience would realize that 2-1=1 and accept that 2-1=2. 12.207.168.3 (talk) 17:58, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If it wasn't in the movie, then you'll need to find a forum that speculates on such things - and this ain't it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:08, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, though I will say that, given the character, it's unlikely that the subject of a dog being killed would be something that got left unresolved or forgotten. It was a major feature of the first film and has been widely used in memes and jokes ever since. Matt Deres (talk) 12:38, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. My name is John Wick. You killed my dog. Prepare to die. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:32, 23 May 2019 (UTC) [reply]

It definitely was wearing a vest. Speculation would be either that it was trained to remain still (we see Sofia plant a gun on the dog in an earlier scene, possibly for such a scenario), or that it was genuinely hurt and needed time to recover. Mingmingla (talk) 02:30, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 22

Soviet Chainsaw

Hi All. Please would someone be able to tell what is happening in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLZUeaIR38

between 20:24 and 20:27 he appears to apply a liquid and and an electric current to the item. What for? What is the aim of this and what is the desired outcome? What is the liquid applied. Unfortunately I can't watch this with volume and suspect it may be in Russian anyway. Any help would be great. Thanks all Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 14:24, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

At 20:57 if you turn on cc, the subtitle says "orthophosphoric acid + zinc battery case". --TrogWoolley (talk) 14:54, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To what end?

That is a very cheap way to do zinc electroplating. He turned phosphoric acid and zinc into zinc phosphate (and hydrogen, which bubbled away). The zinc phosphate solution is applied to the blade using electricity to get the zinc ions to stick. I assume it works fine, but I haven't seen anything that uses zinc in zinc plating for a long time. Chromium is used in just about everything that I know of, but it is still called zinc plating to differentiate between plating and going full chrome. 12.207.168.3 (talk) 15:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just to note, zinc plating is commonly called galvanization; technically all electroplating would be "galvanization" (since it involves using a galvanic cell to accomplish the plating process), but AFAIK, the term has evolved to refer only to the zinc plating of iron or steel. Zinc can also be "chemiplated" rather easily without any electric current; I have used two separate methods (one using zinc in boiling concentrated sodium hydroxide solution, and another using zinc in boiling concentrated zinc chloride solution) to chemiplate zinc on copper coins like pennies. It works relatively well and easily in a school class setting. If you put the coins in a flame or on a hot plate after plating them, they turn a brilliant gold color from the alloying of copper and zinc to form brass.[2] --Jayron 32 17:50, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Star Trek

I saw part of a Star Trek episode on TV last night and wonder what series it was from. The main things I noticed was that the crew members wore purple uniforms and the captain (or maybe one of the crew) looked sort of like Tim Allen, and the ship itself was like a more bulbous version of the TOS and TNG Enterprises. I've seen some of TOS, TNG, and DS9 but there are more that I've only slightly heard of, so thanks. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 20:11, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

After some clicking I think it may have been Voyager, but I didn't notice Captain Janeway on the screen in the bit that I saw. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 20:16, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it was Tim Allen and what you saw was not Star Trek but Galaxy Quest? --Wrongfilter (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I just looked at a youtube clip of Galaxy Quest and it's sort of possible. That would explain Tim Allen. But I found the purple uniforms on the TV show to be "colorful" as it were, and the YT clip wasn't like that. Oh well, if it's on again I'll try to notice. I saw less than a minute of the show and wondered what it was. Thanks. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 20:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Orville has more colorful uniforms and a captain that faintly resembles a 40ish Tim Allen. 97.82.165.112 (talk) 20:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I hadn't heard of that show but again I found a youtube clip. It might be that. I remember thinking the thing I saw had to be ST because the ship resembled the TNG Enterprise so distinctly (though it was blobbier). I couldn't quickly find clear shots of the Orville but it imitated ST in so many other ways that it might have done the same with the ship. Thanks. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 21:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The starship Orville on the series of the same name has a distinctive body shape with loops at the rear. I presume this shape was chosen precisely because it was not a design commonly seen on Star Trek. I don't actually remember what the starship Protector in Galaxy Quest looks like, although I've seen it multiple times, because it's not seen much from the outside in the movie; but this is what it looks like according to a fan website, which I assume is correct. I like the guess that it was actually Galaxy Quest. As to uniform colors, here's a shot from the movie with four of the principal cast members (L-R: Sigourney Weaver, Alan Rickman, Tim Allen, Tony Shalhoub). --76.69.46.228 (talk) 22:27, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I don't remember about the loops but the engine nacelle looks Treklike enough that it's possible that it was the Orville that I saw. I also remember there was an alien or two aboard the ship, whose getup was around halfway between the TNG "nose bump" aliens and Babylon 5 full-on prosthetics, so I figured it was a post-B5 Star Trek. Although, TNG had Ferengi. It could still have been Galazy Quest I guess too. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 22:52, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think the only alien-looking character (loosely speaking) in the main crew in Galaxy Quest is the one played by Alan Rickman; see my link above. (More precisely, he's played by the character played by Rickman). Alien species on board The Orville include Maclins and a Xelayan. Does that mean it's The Orville after all? --76.69.46.228 (talk) 23:52, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Say, do you have access to TV listings from last night that would enable you to just look it up? --76.69.46.228 (talk) 23:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking about that and the answer is I don't know. I'm not much of a TV watcher these days. There's listings on xfinity.com but that site doesn't like the browser I'm using. If it was a rerun it might be on every night, so I could just check if it's on tonight. Those aliens might be the ones I saw, so the Orville theory sounds promising, but I can't be sure without seeing it again. I'm glad to find out about it even though I don't feel likely to become a regular viewer. I'm surprised and amused that they got away with making such a show. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 01:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, we are being silly, just focusing on what things look like. What can you say about the story in the bit that you saw? Can you remember any dialogue? --76.69.46.228 (talk) 09:48, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Afraid I don't remember any dialogue, and the TV sound might even have been off. I do remember there was a space battle where the enemy (or maybe allied) ships were sort of spherical, not Death Star spherical but a little more Miyazaki-like. That supports the Orville theory perhaps. I'll look on youtube again. I mostly remember wondering what the show was, seeing what I thought was a USS Enterprise-inspired ship, and figuring it was a Star Trek descendant of some sort. It didn't occur to me then that it might be otherwise. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 04:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I see Voyager is on now. I'm not 100% certain it's the same show I saw a couple nights ago, but it looks pretty likely. The ship looks about right and the uniforms fairly close. I also noticed the ship had a loop in the back like the Orville, though the on-wiki pictures don't show it, hmm. Anyway, thanks for all the help. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 07:25, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, no loop on the back of Voyager. Anyway, you're welcome. --76.69.46.228 (talk) 07:47, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kate Mulgrew looks like Tim Allen? Clarityfiend (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No there was another Allen-resembling character on the screen. Mulgrew wasn't in that scene or else I (probably) would have recognized her. I've seen a few Voyager episodes though I found the show pretty dull. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 05:36, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Was it Star Trek: Discovery? (Assuming that the blue uniforms are kind of purple-ish, maybe Anson Mount looks like Tim Allen, there was one episode were both sides were fighting with spherical drones...not sure about the ship with the loop though) Adam Bishop (talk) 10:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A remote possibility is Andromeda. The Andromeda Ascendant does have loops. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:41, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just added for amusement: in this quiz published in the last few days on Sporcle.com, on on the Star Trek question, one of the decoy answers is Galaxy Quest. --76.69.46.228 (talk) 06:42, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The episode where I saw (or thought I saw) a ship with a loop was a couple days after I posted this question. That episode was definitely Voyager. I have no way to be sure about the earlier episode and can't rule out Discovery, which I don't think I've seen at all. I'll try to watch some Discovery clips tomorrow I guess. I hadn't heard of Andromeda but it doesn't seem that likely. It was interesting and nice to see that Majel Barrett Roddenberry got to make some shows of her own though. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 08:49, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 24

Missing Album

I am trying to find an album which I believe was released in the mid 80's. The genre is similar to Joan Baez; Judy Collins; Joni Mitchell etc. The album cover is mostly whit and shows the artist standing on a street in Autumn with a large hat. My memory is sketchy on the details such as the album cover being mostly white, my mind's eye recalls it as such but I may be mistaken. I discovered Judy Collins yesterday in my search for this album, and was sure it must be her, but alas it does not appear in her discography. I know the details are vague, any help that can be provided would be deeply appreciated. Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 08:35, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about the mid-80s part? The heyday of those singers was the '60s and '70s. The mid-80s was not a great time for sensitive female singer-songwriters, except for Suzanne Vega, and it's not her. --Viennese Waltz 09:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right, its not Suzanne Vega! I recall this as being in the mid eighties when my mother told me hat this was her favourite album and artist of all time. The woman in the picture is wearing a dress and hat reminiscent of the early 80's. Thanks

Do you have an approximate age of the singer? There were young singers, such as Tiffany and Debbie Gibson (who had a thing for hats) as well as older singers such as Joan Jett and Bonnie Raitt. Having an approximate age would help a great deal in narrowing it down. 12.207.168.3 (talk) 12:38, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking up other singer-songwriters from the 1980s I could think of, like Mary Chapin Carpenter and Lucinda Williams and Sophie B. Hawkins and Kate Bush, and none of them have album covers like you describe. Still hunting though. --Jayron 32 14:19, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Damn. I think I have it. Is it Carly Simon's No Secrets? It's a decade earlier than your requirement, it was released in the 1970s, but otherwise checks off all of the boxes: female singer-songwriter, mostly white, giant hat, vaguely autumnal. --Jayron 32 14:31, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My God Man! That's amazing Jayron! Someone buy this man a beer! Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 14:40, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. I would have got that if I hadn't been misdirected by the false mid-80s claim. I said in my first post that the album was probably from the 60s or 70s, not the 80s. And I thought of Carly Simon and went through all of her album covers from the 80s, but didn't go back as far as the 70s. --Viennese Waltz 14:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Further claiming that a basic 60s folksy floppy hat is "reminiscent of the early 80's". Hats were not popular at all in the 80s. There were flashes of fads, such as Madonna's beret and Roth's fedora, but nothing stuck. 12.207.168.3 (talk) 16:12, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Au contraire, mon frère, the 80s had their hat trends, as any other decade did, some rather notable ones include the painter's cap, which you couldn't swing a dead cat in 1988 without hitting someone wearing one of those, and that black hat that Debbie Gibson made a thing in in like 1986-1987. --Jayron 32 17:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's as may be, but the hat worn by Carly Simon in that picture was not at all reminiscent of the 80s. Furthermore, none of the 80s female singers who wore hats were of the singer-songwriter genre. --Viennese Waltz 19:42, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but fashion in the 80's was just generally cringe-worthy, like pleated polka-dot skirts and big hair

May 25

Screenplay writing

In a screenplay, how do you denote that you specifically want a character to communicate his/her line(s) in a foreign language (e.g. German, Vietnamese, Elvish, or maybe even Morse code), with subtitles in English? I already tried asking this question on a moviemaking forum, but I could not get a coherent answer there. 2601:646:8A00:A0B3:D572:F62A:ECB8:F316 (talk) 02:24, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you not simply write the character's dialogue in the required language, and add the desired English subtitle text below? Example:

CHARACTER

La plume de ma tante est verte.

[Subtitling]

My aunt's pen is green.

This site, although it doesn't itself mention subtitles, does mention several comprehensive published guides to writing screeplays that will surely do so. Anyone seriously contemplating writing and submitting a screenplay would probably benefit from studying a copy of one, just as anyone intending to submit a book MS would be well advised to follow either a standard style manual or the House style manual of the particular publisher concerned. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 04:49, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above example would work just fine for French or German, but not so well for Korean or Vietnamese (at least in my case -- I have zero knowledge of Asian languages, but quite a bit of European ones) -- and as for dialogue in Morse code (which would be required in any movie which has a railroad signalman as a character -- a lot of railroad communications are by telegraph, and in fact they use not only Morse code but also a second code reserved exclusively for the absolute block system), I don't know if the above example is even workable in principle. For example, if the dispatcher is sending an emergency message to the station "Cassil's Siding" to hold the second section of Train #2, am I supposed to write the following:

DISPATCHER (taps the following on the telegraph key)

-.-. ... -.-. ... -.-. ... .---- --... .... --- .-.. -.. ..--- -. -.. -. ..- -- -... . .-. ..---

[Subtitling]

C. S. (Cassil's Siding), C. S., C. S., life-and-death, hold 2nd Number 2

In that case, is that what it's supposed to look like? 2601:646:8A00:A0B3:D572:F62A:ECB8:F316 (talk) 11:11, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Most languages, even those that do not primarily use roman characters, can be rendered in them (c.f. Pinyin), and if not could be rendered in IPA. If someone wants to create a screenplay with some dialogue in a language they are unfamiliar with, presumably they would consult someone who is. If something like Morse code is being depicted, it would not be dialogue, but a sound effect that would instead be descibed in the action directions. I will not respond further to introductions of yet more additional unusual circumstances (though others are welcome to do so): I again advise you to obtain a professionally written textbook on this subject. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 08:31, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As a matter of fact, that was all I needed to know at this time -- thanks! 2601:646:8A00:A0B3:D572:F62A:ECB8:F316 (talk) 02:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

At whom was the Hungarian waiter aiming at when he fired the gun? The Hungarian General, or Jim Prideuax. And was the General killed at that time? --213.205.242.170 (talk) 21:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you had seen the mini series or the film, then you would know that the plot is very complex and scenes are not shown in chronological order. Therefore it takes a great deal thinking to understand completely. Btw, i didn't say bb was stupid, just that he made a stupid remark. But if the cap fits......

80.2.21.134 (talk) 12:48, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The answer might be different depending whether you are asking about the novel, the film or the TV miniseries. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 08:39, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

the film. It's not explicit, but from another account, it seems the waiter was aiming at the general and missed causing the bullet to richochet off a wall and hit prixdeux in the shoulder.80.2.21.36 (talk) 11:08, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 26

Ian Rush

Why did Ian Rush leave Juventus ? Bonecruncher (talk) 16:07, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I typed your question into Google and found (first result): Ian Rush & Juventus: Lessons for a Welshman abroad. Alansplodge (talk) 21:19, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 27

Silent film stars with unattractive voices

The basic plot of Singing in the Rain is a film studio converting from silent films to talkies, the difficulties inherent therein, and the relationships among the principles. The studio's leading lady has an unattractive voice, and another woman's voice is dubbed on top of hers.

In real life, was this approach followed much at all? Sound film gives an example of someone whose career died because of an unattractive voice, Anny Ondra, and Sound film#Labor mentions others who suffered similarly, but all I could find regarding dubbing was related to poor recordings, e.g. there's a bad recording in a scene that was filmed well, so they just re-record the same actors in a sound booth. Google found me [3] and [4], but they're largely talking about dubbing for other languages, e.g. making an English picture in Spanish. I can't find anything on the idea of dubbing an attractive voice on top of a star's unattractive voice, aside from [5], which talks about Singing in the Rain but otherwise has just a couple of quick notes about The Jazz Singer and Blackmail. It would be interesting to see if there were other major motion pictures that used such a technique in the silent-to-sound transition era. Nyttend (talk) 00:05, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not from the right era, but see Hercules in New York.--Jayron 32 03:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dubbing singing in movies was quite common (different actors for voice and songs) Even The Lion King did that. Often the singer got no credit. Marni Nixon sang for Anna in “The King and I,” Maria in “West Side Story”, Eliza Doolittle in “My Fair Lady", as Mary Poppins, Grandma Fa in Mulan, etc. Rmhermen (talk) 03:41, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One point of fact: Marni sang in the Mary Poppins movie, but not as Mary Poppins. Julie had that covered. A relatively recent overdubbing of non-singing was Klinton Spillsbury in his Lone Ranger movie, where another actor overdubbed his lines. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:13, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but apparently I wasn't clear. In Singing in the Rain, Monumental Pictures concludes that their star can't function in the talkie era with her own voice, so they try to save her career by overdubbing her lines with the voice of another person and don't mention that it's not her voice. Beyond The Jazz Singer and Blackmail, were there any studios that tried to save the careers of good actors with unattractive voices by overdubbing with someone else and not mentioning that it was someone else's voice? Nyttend (talk) 11:00, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In The Jazz Singer, was Bobby Gordon overdubbed because of an unattractive voice in general, or was it just that he couldn't sing very well? Audrey Hepburn could sing, her voice just didn't have the richness that the producers wanted. She did sing one of her own songs, "Just you wite, 'Enry 'Iggins…" while the others were done by Marni. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:26, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

When Jack Hawkins lost his voice due to surgery for cancer in 1966, he still made about 20 more movies with someone else's voice overdubbed. I seem to recall this was well known at the time, but I sort of doubt there would have been any acknowledgment made in the movies themselves. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 11:15, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 At whom was the Hungarian waiter aiming at when he fired the gun? The Hungarian General, or Jim Prideuax. And was the General killed at that time?
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-:If it wasn't in the show, then no one here can answer it. But you knew that. And you call ''other users'' stupid and facile? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 00:03, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 ::If you had seen the mini series or the film, then you would know that the plot is very complex and scenes are not shown in chronological order. Therefore it takes a great deal thinking to understand completely. Btw, i didn't say bb was stupid, just that he made a stupid remark. But if the cap fits......
 [[Special:Contributions/80.2.21.134|80.2.21.134]] ([[User talk:80.2.21.134|talk]]) 12:48, 26 May 2019 (UTC)