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:''[[Once Around]]'' (1991) maybe? It's been a long time since I saw it, so I'm not certain about the circling bit, but IMDb says the song is in there. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 19:35, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
:''[[Once Around]]'' (1991) maybe? It's been a long time since I saw it, so I'm not certain about the circling bit, but IMDb says the song is in there. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 19:35, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
:The synopsis mentions "Renata's father directs the funeral procession through several rotations on a traffic round-about", which may have been accompanied by the song. (Probably why my subconscious dredged up this movie.) [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 19:38, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
:The synopsis mentions "Renata's father directs the funeral procession through several rotations on a traffic round-about", which may have been accompanied by the song. (Probably why my subconscious dredged up this movie.) [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 19:38, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes! Once Around! Thank you all! -- [[User:Toytoy|Toytoy]] ([[User talk:Toytoy|talk]]) 00:13, 5 July 2019 (UTC)


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== Mangani language ==

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June 27

Dick Tracy

I heard a rumour many many moons ago that a Guns n' Roses song on one of the "Use your Illusion" albums has the lyrics, "...get the money motherf*****r, I've got no more patience..." and that this relates to Warren Beatty and the movie Dick Tracy. It was said that Warren Beatty, the director of said movie, had claimed that all of the profits from the movie would be given to charity and due to this, many famous and influential people, including Axl Rose (the fat red haired guy from Guns n' Roses) had agreed to participate. When the film was released, he took all of the profits for himself. This ended his career in Hollywood and while previously a prolific director, has had little or no real box office success since. I have scoured our articles but can't find very much to support this claim and certainly nothing to support the Guns'n Roses connection. Yet, I note our articles on both and that he appears to have only released 5 movies since 1990's Dick Tracy which would go some way to supporting this claim. Is there any truth to this rumour? Any additional information would be deeply appreciated. Thanks Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 09:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, for a start, Axl Rose had nothing to do with Dick Tracy, so that kind of scuppers your theory right from the off. There is, however, a connection between Rose and Beatty: Beatty was dating Stephanie Seymour but she left him for Rose (there's no accounting for taste). Rose seems to have harboured some deep animosity towards Beatty, as can be seen from his rant at the beginning of this clip from a 1992 concert. Beatty's thoughts on Rose are unrecorded. --Viennese Waltz 10:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dick Tracy is a Disney movie. It is impossible for the directory to claim all profits will go to charity when it is obvious to everyone that all profits will go to Disney. As for lack of a career, Beatty was in his 50s by the time he made that movie. In Hollywood, actors are over the hill by the time they hit 30. When they hit 50, they are assumed to be deceased. You can point to a handful of actors who continue making movies after 50, but look at the percent of all actors who continue after 50. It is a very small percent, primarily those who produce their own films. 12.207.168.3 (talk) 12:02, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with the two respondents above. Nothing about this adds up. Also, the song in question (Double Talkin’ Jive) was written by Izzy Stradlin, not Rose. Directors have no say about where the profits end up (other than their own payout, I suppose); if someone was going to make such a promise, it would have to be someone in production, such as an executive producer. The director makes the movie, but the producer is the money person. I'm also not sure I understand the supposed motive of the line; is Beatty supposed to be the motherfucker taking the money? Cause it kind of sounds like an exhortation to do so rather than a rebuke. Was the motherfucker supposed to take it from Beatty somehow? Matt Deres (talk) 14:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As it was explained to me in the late 90's Beatty took the money and Axl then wanted his cut (which should have been paid to charity) to be returned to him, hence: "...get the money (to me) motherfucker (Beatty)..." The above all makes sense and I agree. Thanks, but what was Axl's overarching problem with Beatty then? Just that he used to date his girlfriend?! That would be a bit lame, a "suck it up sunshine" situation. Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 15:22, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But why would Rose have wanted a cut of the profits if he didn't have anything to do with the making of the movie? As for why Rose had a problem with Beatty, the gossip rags said it was because Stephanie Seymour continued to see Beatty after she had supposedly left him for Rose. --Viennese Waltz 15:34, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
According to Axl in an interview with Del James, Izzy wrote that song in 1989, the year before Dick Tracy came out. 97.82.165.112 (talk) 00:34, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay but then in this clip this clip he clearly says the song is about Beatty so why, get the money mother... what money did Beatty owe Axl? Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 09:22, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Axl says a lot of crazy shit, and has for over 30 years. Band members often disagree on the writing of songs or on the meaning of their lyrics. As noted, Axl has no writing credit of the song, it was written by another band member before Axl ever had a beef with Beatty. I would take anything he says with a large heaping of grains of salt.--Jayron32 17:02, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's an advert on British television at the moment for Lotus Biscoff (a sort of biscuit had with coffee). In the advert the cups come to life and try to steal the chap's biscuit. The music sounds familiar - perhaps from a film. Can anyone tell me what it is? DuncanHill (talk) 22:35, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sugar Plum Fantasy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6p80mg2SX8 Nanonic (talk) 22:43, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Nanonic:, that is it. I think the advert stops before it gets to the more obviusly Sugar Plummy bit. DuncanHill (talk) 22:47, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(and just in case) this is basically the "Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy" from The Nutcracker. Simple English Wikipedia even has an article on it yay! There have been hundreds of musical references to this composition, and the dance also appears in Fantasia. ---Sluzzelin talk 22:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 28

Song Title was something Titicaca? But can't find this by that name, what is the name of this song?

Song on Vocaroo Many thanks, again the file from years ago was just Something Titicaca, all help is appreciated! RetroVector (talk) 04:28, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What's this music?

Hi, Can anyone tell me what this music is?

Youtube /xMDdaNLc8DU?t=44

It won't let me post the link, but I expect you can work it out. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.193.222 (talk) 13:29, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you're asking about the theme music at the start of the film, that is music specially composed for the film by Matt Morton (his name appears in the credits at the end). You can listen to extracts from the soundtrack here. The film is called The Last Steps and we don't have an article on it. --Viennese Waltz 14:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Viennese Waltz Tyvm, I greatly appreciate your answer. Perfect. Have a wonderful weekend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.193.222 (talk) 14:29, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, no worries. --Viennese Waltz 14:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved

86.20.193.222 (talk) 14:37, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Key of "Now the Day is Over", G or D??

Every note in the first and last quarters of the hymn "Now the Day is Over" (this song has no Wikipedia article; please do a Google search for info on it) is a D. The note G appears only a few times, all within the middle of the song; assuming there are 8 measures in 4/4 time they're all in the fourth and fifth measures. The fourth measure has 2 half notes (E-G) and the fifth measure is G-G-F-E (and all notes in measures 6-8 are D.) It clearly sounds more like it is in the key of D than it does like it's in G, but the song is officially in G as indicated by the chords (G-D7-G in measures 1-2, Em-B7-Em in measures 3-4, A7-D-G in measures 5-6, D7-G in measures 7-8.) How easy is it for the melody to actually sound like it's in G major without playing any chords?? (Do a Google search for sheet music.) Georgia guy (talk) 20:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A song's key is a notational convention and not a law of physics. Which is to say, when a song is assigned a key, it is done so because the performers of the song then know what kind of conventions to follow (notes and chord changes to anticipate). Technically, any song can be notated in any key, it just depends on how many accidentals you want to use when writing. If you don't read music, and are really good at either playing by ear or memorizing a song, the key is irrelevant. Some songs do fit comfortably in multiple keys. If you want to get better at understanding music theory like this, especially on the sometimes arbitrary and non-deterministic nature of music theory, there are a few really good YouTube channels out there. Three I can recommend are 12 Tone, which is probably the best entry level one, then bassist Adam Neely probably hits a mid-level understanding well, and engineer and producer Rick Beato does good as well, but his analyses often presume a higher level of understanding than the others, though his "What Makes This Song Great" series is approachable. I hope those are useful to you.--Jayron32 16:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That is clearly not what I'm talking about. What you're talking about is something like the following, which I have no problems with:

Here are 2 ways of playing the same melody on the piano; all notes are quarter notes except the last note of each line, which is a half note:

  1. C-C-G-G-A-A-G, F-F-E-E-D-D-C
  2. F-F-C-C-D-D-C, B-B-A-A-G-G-F

These are the same melody in different keys.

But that clearly is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a melody that sounds like it's in the key of D major accompanied by a G major chord progression. Georgia guy (talk) 17:14, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's clearly not what I was talking about either. I'm saying that there, given the same set of notes used in a song, one can call it any number of keys. A key is a notational and conventional thing. I don't know what you're talking about in your response, because it had nothing to do with what I said. What I was saying is that there are some songs that could be considered to be in different keys depending on perspective, and that assigning a set of notes to a key is useful but somewhat arbitrary anyways. Yes, if I write a 12-bar blues using the E, A, and B chords, it's nearly universal that music theorists would recognize that as the key off E, but that doesn't mean every song is so easy to categorize. After all, we have concepts like "accidentals" and "borrowed chords" and the like because there are many songs that defy easy categorization into a single key. What you are talking about in your recent response to me is key modulation, which I never brought up at all. I was talking about the fact that yes, there are times when one song will be difficult to assign a key to. Because music theory is not deterministic. It is a tool for analyses, and sometimes our existing conventions fall short of providing a facile analysis.--Jayron32 18:11, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think the question makes more sense than you are giving it credit for. I presume the tune in question is Merrial: music here, though in A major rather than G. To my ear, if I play or sing just the melody line, with no harmony, then the final E "sounds like" the fifth of the scale rather than the root. I can't put my finger on why this is the case: possibly it's because the Es in the previous bar sound like a phrase that would typically resolve to an A. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 07:46, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a name for this song?

I noticed that this song from Putt-Putt Goes to the Moon also is used in this episode of Adventures in Wonderland (skip to 8:36). Does it have a name?75.117.52.123 (talk) 20:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Both tunes (not "songs") are based around a whole-tone scale, which is often used for spooky or mysterious effects. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 07:33, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 30

Most goals scored by losing team in a soccer match?

I am aware that professional soccer has no "mercy rule", and so teams can run up the score indefinitely, as in, for example, [the U.S. women beating Thailand 13-0], or, for another example, Australia_31-0_American_Samoa. My question is, what is the most goals scored by the losing team in a professional soccer match? Let's say that I am watching a soccer match, but I only know how to count up to five, and anything higher than that is "many". Is that enough to be able to work out which team has won the match? (Assume that I am not "cheating" and going by which team seems to be celebrating, etc. I am only counting each team's goals.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.114.16.127 (talk) 05:49, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In England, the record is Charlton Athletic F.C. 7–6 Huddersfield Town A.F.C.. --Wrongfilter (talk) 06:31, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For the World Cup, the most seems to be Austria v Switzerland (1954 FIFA World Cup) 7-5 so I guess the OP can tell these apart [1]. BTW according to [2] there have been several 6-6 draws at the professional level. Nil Einne (talk) 15:56, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

July 1

Sales numbers or estimates for the Ouya

Are there any known sales numbers or estimates for the Ouya? During a 2013 interview, the company's CEO mentioned that they had sold "a lot" but declined to give actual numbers, while the NPD only said that the launch was "relatively light" but didn't seem to actually give any numbers. There do seem to be sales numbers for the games (for example, the console's best selling game Towerfall sold 7,000, not including those who downloaded the free version, and it was estimated that very few Ouya owners actually bought any games), but not for the console, at least according to the article. But do any estimates exist out there? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

July 3

Lang Leav poem

(Copied from Humanities desk) Does anyone out there know if the poem 'All Love' by Lang Leav appears in any of her books? The first line is, 'It's time to do what you've always wanted.' I've tried looking at previews of her books on Google Books and Amazon but can't see the contents pages. If anyone has access to her books and can find it, can you tell me the book title and page number please?

Many thanks Turner Street (talk) 14:34, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried contacting her directly at https://www.langleav.com ? Rojomoke (talk) 18:28, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I tried searching, but the best I can say is that its not listed in the table of contents for Love & Misadventure or Lullabies -- preview on Goodreads (here) & (here). —107.15.157.44 (talk) 22:36, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

July 4

Fly Me to the Moon

I remember the song Fly Me to the Moon has appeared in a movie of the 1990s. One scene was probably like they were driving around a circle while playing this song. What's the title of this movie? -- Toytoy (talk) 16:08, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This lists Wall Street and Space Cowboys though I suspect there are others. MarnetteD|Talk 17:36, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Once Around (1991) maybe? It's been a long time since I saw it, so I'm not certain about the circling bit, but IMDb says the song is in there. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:35, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The synopsis mentions "Renata's father directs the funeral procession through several rotations on a traffic round-about", which may have been accompanied by the song. (Probably why my subconscious dredged up this movie.) Clarityfiend (talk) 19:38, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! Once Around! Thank you all! -- Toytoy (talk) 00:13, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mangani language

I was reading the article Mangani and saw a section about the "ape language", which Burroughs developed. Now this whole "ape language" seems to be an enormous plot hole. Where could this language have come from? As far as I know, apes are incapable of human-like speech. JIP | Talk 21:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]