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Many of these questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning the September 11 attacks. To view an explanation to the answer, click the [show] link to the right of the question. Q1: Is the article biased against conspiracy theories?
A1: Wikipedia is a mainstream encyclopedia so this article presents the accepted version of the events according to reliable sources. Although reliable sources have repeatedly reported on conspiracy theories, reporting on conspiracy theories is not the same thing as advocating conspiracy theories or accepting them as fact. The most recent discussion that resulted in the current consensus took place on this talk page in December 2011. If you disagree with the current status, you are welcome to bring your concerns to the article talk page. Please read the previous discussions on this talk page and try to explain how your viewpoint provides new arguments or information that may lead to a change in consensus. Please be sure to be polite and support your views with citations from reliable sources. Q2: Should the article use the word "terrorist" (and related words)?
A2: Wikipedia:Words to watch states that "there are no forbidden words or expressions on Wikipedia". That being said, "terrorism" is a word that requires extra attention when used in Wikipedia. The consensus, after several lengthy discussions, is that it is appropriate to use the term in a limited fashion to describe the attacks and the executors of these attacks. The contributors have arrived at this conclusion after looking at the overwhelming majority of reliable sources that use this term as well as the United Nations' own condemnation of the attacks.[1] |
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Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2021
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Since it crashed into a field, the exact building intended to be hit by Flight 93 is not decisively known although it has been believed by U.S. authorities that the U.S. Capitol or the White House were Flight 93's potential targets.
(Petition to correct the typo "decively" to the presumed intended word "decisively") 120.17.14.214 (talk) 04:21, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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There is a typo in the first sentence of the second paragraph. The letter f is missing from the word “four”.
“On Tuesday morning, our commercial airliners from the northeastern United States were scheduled to land in California.” 2604:3D09:97E:B200:AD62:FFE4:CFDD:5529 (talk) 07:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed. Thank you. Chewings72 (talk) 07:38, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
different flight times
How come timelines have different flight departures and crashes? For instance, the link here has Flight 93 taking off at 8:41 a.m. and crashing at 10:07 a.m. [2] 73.167.238.120 (talk) 14:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- recommend checking the Flight 93 Shanksville Memorial, for perhaps more accurate information about that flight. https://www.nps.gov/flni/learn/historyculture/index.htm Smela07 (talk) 21:56, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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In the first sentence of the third paragraph "The George W. Bush's adiminsitration [...]" sounds strange. It should be either "George W. Bush's administration" or "The George W. Bush administration". JamieFleming (talk) 00:37, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- I reversed a previous edit to the way it was a day or two ago -- "The United States" rather than "The George W. Bush's administration". Antandrus (talk) 00:44, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- Much better. Thank you! JamieFleming (talk) 00:53, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Geopolitical Impact
I don’t think this article dwells enough on the geo-political fallout vis-à-vis the West. There is no doubt in my mind that the attacks caused a lurch to the right in both the USA and Europe. The liberal order that had held sway was already under pressure given the rise of the right in America after Clinton, however the attacks accelerated the shift. It took Europe longer, but it no doubt had the same effect there. The attacks, and the bungled (re invasion of Iraq) response from the West emboldened Islamic fundamentalists all over the world.
Separately, it lead to a heightened tensions between the West and the Muslim world. The US invasion of Iraq resulted in the deaths of over 100000 civilian deaths, destabilized the Middle East, upsetting the balance of power between Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia that remains unresolved, ultimately leading to the Syrian civil war and the rise of ISIS. Iran emerged as a major actor in the region, shaping anti-West sentiment in tne region and putting pressure on Israel through Hezbollah and the Palestinians.
Further, one can trace much of the root cause of the current refugee/migrant crises Europe faces from ME countries, Afghanistan, Pakistan and North Africa to the 9/11 attacks.
I think these aspects need to be reviewed and documented. What would the geopolitical situation look like had the attacks not transpired?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c4:2696:8b00:a0fb:ac79:9949:e39d (talk) 16:35, August 11, 2021 (UTC)
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- As to your request, we would need reliable sources which discuss the matter before adding that content to the article. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 21:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
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