Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 1

January 1

Category:Proposed National parks in Wales

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 9#Category:Proposed National parks in Wales

Category:21st-century Kurdish people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 18:58, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:21st-century Kurdish people by occupation to Category:21st-century Kurdish people

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one occupation in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 22:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:47, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Chechen sportsmen

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 9#Category:Chechen sportsmen

Category:Street gangs by ethnicity

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The result of the discussion was: rename as per nom (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Street gangs by ethnicity to Category:Street gangs

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 22:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alt merge to Category:Gangs by ethnicity. AHI-3000 (talk) 09:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, the content is already in that tree as subcategory of Category:Hispanic gangs. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then merge Category:Latino street gangs into Category:Hispanic gangs as a bonus. AHI-3000 (talk) 20:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- What would be the reason not to keep a separate street gangs subcat for Latino? If not kept, at least also merge to Category:Street gangs. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Gangs are a topic in which ethnicity is often actually defining, but as demonstrated above the content is already categorized as such through other, better, means. Place Clichy (talk) 10:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Celebrity concepts

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Celebrity concepts to Category:Celebrity
Propose merging Category:Transport concepts to Category:Transport
Propose merging Category:Political economic concepts to Category:Political economy
Propose merging Category:Industry (economics) concepts to Category:Industry (economics)
Propose merging Category:Deviance (sociology) concepts to Category:Deviance (sociology)
Propose merging Category:Medical sociology concepts to Category:Medical sociology

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Only has one (or two) pages in them, which isn't very helpful for navigation. I'm on the fence about whether these categories are defining or not... Mason (talk) 22:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pavel Roman Memorial

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 ^T--C 08:59, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Pavel Roman Memorial (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category containing only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:09, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:C2F. This could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wars involving the Donetsk People's Republic

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The result of the discussion was: delete.. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 ^T--C 09:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Wars involving the Donetsk People's Republic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Wars involving the Luhansk People's Republic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Battles involving the Donetsk People's Republic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Battles involving the Luhansk People's Republic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Both the DPR and the LPR were created during a single conflict: the Russo-Ukrainian War. Therefore, all these categories are meaningless. Yorkporter (talk) 19:25, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. These have never been sovereign state parties, they have always been de-facto controlled by Russia, and their militias have always been staffed by Russian officers and under Russian command. And these militias have only been involved in one war, the Russo-Ukrainian War, as Russian proxies and alongside Russian forces. The categories are meaningless and misleading. —Michael Z. 04:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, overlaps with Category:War in Donbas. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. These entities were defined by that war, not the other way around. Place Clichy (talk) 10:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Merano Cup

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Merano Cup (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category containing only one article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Foreign-born politicians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Foreign-born politicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Apart from the Australian, Canadian and New Zealand subcategories I've nominated below, the only other contents remaining here are four US-specific lists (one omnibus list and three sublists for cabinet members, state governors and senators). Even those lists are still of questionable necessity — I'll grant the "natural born citizen" restriction on the presidency as a US-specific factor, but (a) that isn't applicable to cabinet members, state governors or senators at all, and (b) being physically born on foreign soil does not automatically make one not a "natural born citizen" as the citizenship status of the parents comes into play as well, so those lists are not across the board synonymous with "holders of lower offices who were ineligible to run for president" — but I'm not listing them for deletion here and now, and incidentally Category:Foreign-born American politicians has been previously brought to CFD and deleted.
But it's highly doubtful that they would need a dedicated category for them, as they're all already somewhere in the Category:Lists of political office-holders in the United States tree as it is, and even if a category is warranted it would have to be US-specific since there's no legitimately defining basis for categorizing people this way in any other country. So this needs to be either deleted, or renamed to something exclusively American. Bearcat (talk) 16:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the subcategories aren't kept (see other discussions) then this one might be repurposed to Category:Lists of foreign-born United States politicians. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. (fwiw, I created this parent category to gather all the child categories together.) I don't have an investment in the concept and agree that it isn't really defining. Mason (talk) 22:06, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. List articles appropriately cover the topic, when and where it is a topic. Placing this category on individual people's articles is an inappropriate WP:LABEL. Place Clichy (talk) 10:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment just a comment as I'm too unfamiliar with the policies discussed, but, for example, the European Parliament allows someone foreign born to be elected, Carles Puigdemont comes to mind, some local elections in Europe does too, simply based on a place of residence. Respublik (talk) 22:55, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Foreign born Australian politicians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 ^T--C 09:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Foreign born Australian politicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Foreign born New Zealand politicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Categories for a non-defining intersection of unrelated traits. I'm bundling these separately from the Canadian sibling I've nominated below, as Australia does have a rule that a foreign-born Australian citizen has to renounce any foreign citizenships before they're allowed to hold some Australian political offices -- however, that's such a minor, easily-attainable process that can typically be completed within a matter of days, so the question of whether they were born in Australia or outside of it is basically just a minor speed bump rather than a permanently defining characteristic of a politician's entire career.
New Zealand also doesn't have any rule barring foreign-born citizens from holding political office in Aotearoa, either, although I don't know whether they handle it more like Australia or Canada -- but it's still unlikely to define a Kiwi's entire political career. Bearcat (talk) 16:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, trivial intersection, country of birth does not pre-determine one's political views. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 22:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. List articles appropriately cover the topic, when and where it is a topic. Placing this category on individual people's articles is an inappropriate WP:LABEL. Place Clichy (talk) 10:12, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Patent holders

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 9#Category:Patent holders

Category:Circle (TV network) affiliates

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Circle (TV network) affiliates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: OTA network is going away 12/31; becoming a FAST service Mvcg66b3r (talk) 06:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this be renamed then? Mason (talk) 22:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (as I understand it, please ping me if I got something wrong). The service does not appear to have been renamed, it appears to have ended without a replacement. However, that is not a reason this category should be deleted. We categorize based on past characterizations all the time; as just one example, Category:Trump administration cabinet members. House Blaster^talk 23:14, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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@Mvcg66b3r: we probably need more explanation from your side (see above). Marcocapelle (talk) 16:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, the network is now a FAST service and no longer has any OTA affiliates (many of them have switched to The365 or Outlaw. So this category should be deleted. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is primarily a response to HouseBlaster. We have precedent in this field that suggests categorizing stations by former network affiliation is not useful: see this CfD from 2020. If main-channel networks like ABC and CBS had no leg to stand on, then Circle—a digital multicast television network slotted into subchannels of stations—has even less of an argument. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was unaware of that precedent. Delete per Sammi (and thank you!). House Blaster^talk 00:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And because I realize that the original argument is also full of unfamiliar acronyms to non-topic editors, a quick roundup. Circle, until 12/31, was a diginet. It's now a streaming-only free ad-supported streaming television (FAST) online channel not offered by TV stations and thus has no affiliates. For further precedent, see Category:Twist (TV network) affiliates, for a diginet that just folded. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:17, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cultural depictions by nationality and gender‎

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting:

Propose merging:

more categories nominated

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCEGRS, a split of cultural depictions by gender is rather trivial and cultural depictions of men of any nationality or of women of any nationality are not a notable topic in themselves. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC) (signed a day later)[reply]

Merge per nom. Also, @Mason, I think you forgot to sign the Cfd. I don't know whether it is important/required but I thought I should let you know either way. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Actually this isn't me. It's too nicely organized 🤣 Mason (talk) 18:43, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Smasongarrison, sorry! I guess I misread the page history

! Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:53, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: None of Category:Cultural depictions of Scottish men, Category:Cultural depictions of Welsh men and Category:Cultural depictions of ancient Roman women were tagged.
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Category:Cultural depictions of female monarchs

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus on whether gender is defining in this case. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:13, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Cultural depictions of female monarchs to Category:Cultural depictions of monarchs
Propose merging Category:Cultural depictions of male monarchs to Category:Cultural depictions of monarchs

Nominator's rationale: Follow up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_28#Category:Cultural_depictions_of_noblemen Mason (talk) 06:29, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Manually merge per nom, per WP:OCEGRS. Most content is already in a country subcategory of the target, hence manual. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Spliting by gender is the most logical spliting there is, especially historically, almost nothing defines a monarchs life as much.★Trekker (talk) 10:29, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Country defines a monarch much more, I would rather argue that monarchs of the same gender of different countries have nothing in common. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. This seems to be a perfectly reasonable division of the content. BD2412 T 15:37, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as defining. This is not a list of Monarchs, but of cultural depictions. Respublik (talk) 23:03, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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People by populated place in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: rename , using the alt rename targets where applicable.There is weak consensus to use the alt rename targets, with no prejudice against another nomination focusing soley on those. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:People by populated place in the United States to Category:American people by populated place
Propose renaming Category:People by populated place in the United States by state to Category:American people by populated place and state
Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by populated place in the United States‎ to Category:American sportspeople by populated place
Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by sport and populated place in the United States‎ to Category:American sportspeople by sport and populated place
Propose renaming Category:Sports coaches by populated place in the United States to Category:American sports coaches by populated place
Propose renaming Category:People by census-designated place in the United States to Category:American people by census-designated place
Propose renaming Category:People by census-designated place by state‎ to Category:American people by census-designated place and state
Propose renaming Category:People by city in the United States‎ to Category:American people by city
Propose renaming Category:People by city in the United States by state‎ to Category:American people by city and state
Propose renaming Category:Lists of people by city in the United States‎ to Category:Lists of American people by city
Propose renaming Category:People from the United States by county‎ to Category:American people by county
Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople in the United States by county‎ to Category:American sportspeople by county
Propose renaming Category:People by island in the United States to Category:American people by island
Propose renaming Category:People by metropolitan area in the United States‎ to Category:American people by metropolitan area
Propose renaming Category:People by town in the United States‎ to Category:American people by town
Propose renaming Category:People by town in the United States by state‎ to Category:American people by town and state
Propose renaming Category:People by unincorporated community in the United States‎ to Category:American people by unincorporated community
Propose renaming Category:People by unincorporated community by state to Category:American people by unincorporated community and state
Propose renaming Category:People by village in the United States‎ to Category:American people by village
Propose renaming Category:People by village in the United States by state‎ to Category:American people by village and state

Nominator's rationale: rename, with splitter at the end like we usually have, and with "American people" similar to parent Category:American people by location. Follow-up on this earlier discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_1#Category:People_from_the_United_States_by_state. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

copy of speedy discussion

Category:People from the United States by county to Category:People by county in the United States – C2C; matches name of the parent category and other categories in the Category:People by populated place in the United States. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this become Category:American people by county? And the other one Category:American people by populated place? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:24, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this category has been renamed in full discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_1#X_by_Y_in_Z. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcocapelle, I would indeed agree that it should be "American people by" but shouldn't that be discussed at full Cfd, since the rest of the categories in Category:People by populated place in the United States also stated with "People of the United States by..."?

Also, I don't think this particular category was discussed in the discussion you linked. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:44, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was, see [1]. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I completely missed that. Thank you! I wasn't aware of this. But I would say that the other categories should also be named with such a format. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:15, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Omnis Scientia: pinging contributor to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:42, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, I agree in principle but did you name the two "Sportspeople" categories (the third and fourth ones) correctly? I'm rather confused by those renamings. Omnis Scientia (talk) 06:49, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for paying attention, I have corrected them. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  No worries! It happens.
  
  Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Support per nom Mason (talk) 15:48, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

and support alt rename below for relevant categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alt rename the following to use by state or territory, per parent Category:American people by state or territory and WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 1 § Category:People from the United States by state.

Propose renaming Category:People by populated place in the United States by state to Category:American people by populated place and state or territory
Propose renaming Category:People by census-designated place by state‎ to Category:American people by census-designated place and state or territory
Propose renaming Category:People by city in the United States by state‎ to Category:American people by city and state or territory
Propose renaming Category:People by town in the United States by state‎ to Category:American people by town and state or territory
Propose renaming Category:People by unincorporated community by state to Category:American people by unincorporated community and state or territory
Propose renaming Category:People by village in the United States by state‎ to Category:American people by village and state or territory

There's no reason we should leave out Washington D.C., historic territories and insular areas. Agree with using American people. Place Clichy (talk) 02:45, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcocapelle, your opinion on these ones. I'm rather torn because they specifically point to populated places in states.

Washington, D.C. would have areas within it but likely no city or town or village, etc. and the insular areas have their own divisions in Category:People by insular area of the United States. So I think this is a seperate conversation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:43, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware that many categories are currently being renamed from "by state" to "by state or territory". I do not have a particular opinion about it, apart from preferring to maintain consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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@Qwerfjkl, support alt rename as well as the original nom. Per an objection to the "state or territory" renames in speedy, I support the original renames but NOT the alt renames until there is a further discussion on the matter. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:15, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(after relisting) @Omnis Scientia: do you actually oppose the use of by state or territory, or do you just acknowledge that one user opposed some of your own speedy renamings of other such categories not listed in this discussion? There seem to be strong arguments for the inclusion of places like Washington D.C. and the Alaska Territory in American categories diffused by geography, and unfortunately some pernikety users keep removing them from such categories when they just use by state because they are not states. CfD is "stronger" than speedy discussion, if I may say, so of course we are not prevented to agree on a new name for these categories because of the speedy objection. We had that discussion before several times (example). Place Clichy (talk) 13:24, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Place Clichy, I don't oppose the rename personally because I think it makes sense but a few users did strongly oppose all speedy renames to "state or territory" (I did a handful but most were done by @Aidan721 and @Smasongarrison) regardless of what the subject was a while back and it was suggested that this go back to full discussion with the WikiProjects of insular areas involved this time.

The conversation is in "Opposed requests" here if you want to see for yourself. They feel quite strongly about it and the Cfd which decided on "state or territory". Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Support rename and think that this rename should intentionally include "Washington D.C., historic territories and insular areas" as there's really no reason to exclude them Mason (talk) 22:09, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alt suggestion to replace American people to Americans (in the context of people of United States) in any final suggestion per main page Americans. Respublik (talk) 23:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kentucky Territory judges

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (Not sure why I relisted.) (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:19, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Kentucky Territory judges to Category:United States territorial judges

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one person in the entire Kentucky Territory Tree Mason (talk) 14:46, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No objection, as category creator. Upon reviewing the history of the matter, Kentucky was admitted as a new state very shortly after splitting from Virginia (which was already a state), and therefore had a very short time as a territory. It appears that the lone subject of this category was the only person who was officially the territorial judge of this territory. BD2412 T 15:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Foreign-born Canadian politicians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 ^T--C 09:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Foreign-born Canadian politicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining intersection of unrelated traits. Canada does not place any limitations on the eligibility of foreign-born citizens to hold political office, so the question of whether they were born in Canada or outside of it is not relevant to these people's political careers at all. Bearcat (talk) 15:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, trivial intersection, country of birth does not pre-determine one's political views. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 22:09, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1190s establishments in the Ayyubid Sultanate

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Categories were populated. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:1190s establishments in the Ayyubid Sultanate to Category:1190s establishments in Asia and Category:12th-century establishments in the Ayyubid Sultanate and Category:1190s in the Ayyubid Sultanate
Propose merging Category:1170s establishments in the Ayyubid Sultanate to Category:1170s establishments in Asia and Category:12th-century establishments in the Ayyubid Sultanate (Adding to older nom Mason (talk) 18:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC))[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. Not helpful for navigation to only have one page in here Mason (talk) 02:52, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~Merge~~ per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:25, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose obviously a redundant cleaning work for a category which could be expanded and populalated. Just added another entry and more establishments in 12th century Ayyubid Sultanate. Those maintanance deletions of cateogories which can be populated (easily) is not helpful for Wikipedia.GreyShark (dibra) 18:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Still not enough to justify diffusion beyond the century level. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 03:58, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment @Greyshark09, LaundryPizza03, and Marcocapelle: added another category with same issue.Mason (talk) 18:22, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge both per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Question - how many categories in this tree can I add and how many articles to abort this proposal? 3 are not enough?GreyShark (dibra) 11:48, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge -- Usual solution for small categories. The normal minimum is five. I have occasionally argued for less where there is no obvious merge target, but usually there is one. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:48, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Both now have enough articles (each).GreyShark (dibra) 18:38, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I suppose this nomination is meanwhile moot. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:58, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Australian mid-20th century modern painters

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:33, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose splitting Category:Australian mid-20th century modern painters to Category:Modern painters and Category:20th-century Australian painters

Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. I don't think that the intersection between century, nationality, and artistic movement is defining. If kept, it should be renamed Australian modern painters Mason (talk) 02:42, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge but I think to Category:20th-century Australian painters only (as Modern painters seems a too broad target), unless this concerns a very specific artistic movement. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:37, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to both Modern art is a collection of similar movements. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 04:00, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ok, let's merge to both, for now, but I think that Category:Modern painters needs to be containerized because painters in the root category aren't typically characterized as a modern painter or a painter of modern art. @Johnbod: what is your opinion? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for asking! This is always going to be super-messy. Category:Modern painters "Painters who have played a role in the history of modern art, dating from the late 19th century until (approximately) the 1970s", which I think is ok. I looked at a few random entries (there are approaching 2,000 in the head-cat and sub-cats) and they all met that definition, though none actually used "modern painter or a painter of modern art" in the lead, but more specific terms (or no term at all). Many could no doubt be moved to more specific categories, although of course a category like say Category:Abstract expressionist artists very often won't match an artist's whole career. Johnbod (talk) 13:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Just so it's said: There really is not that much of a difference between performer by performance, and artist by style, or writer by genre. All three concepts should probably be listified/deleted. That said, I suppose I can see an argument for categorizing artist by Art movement. Which, I think is what we're talking about here. So Split/Merge per the others above. - jc37 05:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Free and open-source software programmed in C

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Category:Military commanders by war

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:33, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Military commanders by war to Category:Military leaders by war

Nominator's rationale: Not a helpful distinction. When I made it, I didn't really think through the fact that every other page (than the single child category) was called military leader Mason (talk) 05:06, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

support. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 10:25, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Respublik (talk) 23:21, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Swiss military personnel by war

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:34, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose splitting Category:Swiss military personnel by war to Category:Swiss military personnel and Category:Swiss people by war

Nominator's rationale: Mason (talk) 05:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Austro-Hungarian military personnel by war

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:34, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Austro-Hungarian military personnel by war to Category:Austro-Hungarian military personnel

Nominator's rationale: Mason (talk) 04:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Yugoslav military personnel by war

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:34, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Yugoslav military personnel by war to Category:Yugoslav military personnel
Propose merging Category:North Korean military personnel by war to Category:North Korean military personnel
Propose merging Category:Iraqi military personnel by war to Category:Iraqi military personnel

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one war in here, which isn't very helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 04:55, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kim Yu-sin

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 ^T--C 09:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Kim Yu-sin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization. This is a category with only two pages in it, the subject and a shrine dedicated to them. Mason (talk) 04:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. VegaDark (talk) 05:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lieutenant field marshals of the Austrian Empire

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:35, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Lieutenant field marshals of the Austrian Empire to Category:Austrian Empire military personnel

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. The specific rank isn't defining. Mason (talk) 01:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just delete, the article is already in Category:Generals of the Austrian Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Marcocapelle. Respublik (talk) 12:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Polling places

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 ^T--C 09:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose Deleting Category:Polling places

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCVENUE and WP:NONDEFINING

A polling place is school, firehouse, other public building, or private location that temporarily place to vote on eleciton day then returns to it's normal function the next day. This category was never populated but WP:NARROWCAT is not a problem: in the 2018 elections there were more than 230,000 polling places in the United States (sourcel). - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:24, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's definitely not defining. Mason (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:State land commissioners of the United States

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Category:Frisian handball competitions

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:36, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Frisian handball competitions to Category:Frisian handball

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There are only two pages total in the Frisian handball category tree. Mason (talk) 01:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dual merge, also to Category:Handball competitions. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
per Marcocapelle · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 10:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Underwater diving associations

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Category:Underwater diving on Guam

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Category:Diving accessory equipment

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:38, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Diving accessory equipment to Category:Diving equipment

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining Mason (talk) 00:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge for now, only one article and a redirect, without prejudice to recreation of the category when it can be better populated. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Clarify, Please explain what non-defining is intended to mean in this context. There are several articles and possibly other redirects in "Category:diving equipment which would reasonably be considered diving accessory equipment, but it is not a big deal either way. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 07:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I assume you mean not a defining characteristic. Debatable, but lets just go with Marcocapelle to avoid the debate. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 10:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Military tents

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:39, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose splitting Category:Military tents to Category:Tents and Category:Military equipment

Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. Do we really need to tents by who developed them? Mason (talk) 00:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge for now, only one article, without prejudice to recreation of the category when it can be better populated. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
per Marcocapelle. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 10:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Team Handball League

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Team Handball League (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Team Handball League seasons (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Team Handball League history (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose merging Category:Team Handball League templates to Category:Handball league templates
Propose merging Category:Team Handball League navigational boxes to Category:Handball leagues navigational boxes

Nominator's rationale: Empty Category associated with a now deleted page Team Handball League. The deletion note explains that "While there were several hits for the generic term, team handball league, I couldn't find a single reference for this particular league" Mason (talk) 00:46, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/merge per nom, although I am skeptical of the usefulness of the templates in the merge candidates - It is likely those should similarly be deleted if the article in question about the league has been deleted, but I suppose that can be a decision for TfD. VegaDark (talk) 18:16, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've also nominated the templates. I agree that the templates aren't useful, but the merge allows them to not be orphaned in case someone else disagrees. Mason (talk) 22:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Category:Team Handball League seasons is emptied which looks like it occurred through article deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:19, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Search and rescue

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 ^T--C 09:04, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Search and rescue to Category:Rescue

Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories Mason (talk) 00:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, the target is far broader, it also contains e.g. Category:Hostage rescue operations and Category:Rescue of Jews. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Many rescues do not involve a search, and many searches do not involve a rescue, Intersecting categories, but not at all fully overlapping either way. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 09:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the category is kept, I think it would be helpful if the category creator added some parent categories. I initially found it with just Human activities. Mason (talk) 22:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Search procedures

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Category:Austrian Empire military personnel of the French Revolutionary Wars

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:41, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Austrian Empire military personnel of the French Revolutionary Wars to Category:Austrian military personnel of the French Revolutionary Wars
Propose renaming Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars to Category:Austrian military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars

Nominator's rationale: rename, the current name is anachronistic since the Austrian Empire started in 1804. The subcategory may also be renamed to "officers" instead of "military leaders". Marcocapelle (talk) 00:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Mason (talk) 00:38, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom without prejudice. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 10:10, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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