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Requested move 5 January 2018

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The result of the move request was: page moved and deleted the unnecessary disambiguation page as per Wikipedia:Disambiguation. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 18:56, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As of December 2017, Jeff Jarrett held another GFW event obviously showing he is still full owner of GFW and showing that the promotion isn't closed as some have assumed I feel under these circumstances the (2014—2017) should be removed from the titles name and should simply read Global Force Wrestling JMichael22 (talk) 18:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC) --Relisted. Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 16:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agree I feel this a very simple matter of, is the company closed or not and with recent events it's shown that it is not JMichael22 (talk) 18:34, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have struck out this vote. The nominator is making this look deceptive but voting to agree with his own statement. - Galatz ^Talk 19:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I was about chide him for the same thing but was edit conflicted. Support of he nominator is assumed. It's dishonest to put "agree" with yourself. oknazevad (talk) 19:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've struck it out a second time as he reverted the first. He does have history in !voting for his own motions. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 21:06, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - This was just discussed here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Archive 100#GFW article and there was a very clear non-consensus and thats why the page without the years became disambiguation. If you wanted to move to Global Force Wrestling (2014 company) than fine. But if your only reason to remove the years is that it still exists than just remove the end date. - Galatz ^Talk 19:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wait. One event, still in 2017. Jarret used a brand he owns, but that's not a company. It's just again to a piggybacking on others' events (he was not the sole promoter of that December event). Let's wait until it looks like a going concern first. Galatz summarized it well. oknazevad (talk) 19:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Oknazevad what other promotion held the event with GFW? JMichael22 (talk) 19:30, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To answer this two week old question, a local Tennessee promotion called "Tried-N-True Pro Wrestling". See here. Still not convinced that Jarrett has an actual company, not just a brand. oknazevad (talk) 20:44, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User talk: page discussion

How is my agreeing with the discussion deceptive User:Galatz? JMichael22 (talk) 19:32, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because its obvious that you are agreeing with the discussion since you started it. - Galatz ^Talk 19:35, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well User:Galatz the definition of deceptive is "giving an appearance or impression different from the true one or misleading" basically calling someone a liar. So just because i agreed with the discussion your calling me a liar? Learn to use proper words to describe the situation because no where in my agreement was it a lie JMichael22 (talk) 19:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Give the impression of 2 people feeling the same way when you are in fact only one person seems to fit your definition exactly. Now knock off the attacks - Galatz ^Talk 19:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

there is only one agreement on my behalf. i have one request move on why i feel it should be moved and then I put why I agree with it being moved there is no deception because there is still only one vote that I am entitled to do once again do not remove my vote you have 0 right to revoke my right to a vote iv been apart of multiple request moves i know that you can't dismiss my vote JMichael22 (talk) 19:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is a double vote. Period. You put your reasons for requesting the move in your request. That is your !vkte. You don't vote again. Period. That's not how this works. oknazevad (talk) 19:07, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think this argument could have been avoided had you said "Support as nom" instead of "Agree".LM2000 (talk) 05:22, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To editor JMichael22: you are invited to reread Wikipedia:Requested moves#Commenting in a requested move, bullet #4 under "When participating, please consider the following:". This is not a vote, this is a debate and your nomination is considered to be, and counted as, "support" for the page move by closers of these debates. So your entire argument in favor of a page move should be included within your nomination. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 15:32, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support My concerns raised in the WT:PW discussion turned out to be accurate. Jarrett intends to use the GFW name for future events so the current title is inaccurate.LM2000 (talk) 09:34, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support As LM2000 said, looks like Jarrett stills in the wrestling world. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support As per LM2000 & HHH Pedrigree. Not to mention, on the talk page referenced by LM2000, as has (WRONGLY) happened in the past here on Wikipedia, an editor (*cough*Galatz*cough*) has clearly, WRONGLY interpreted the final vote (two for option 1:Keep directing to Impact Wrestling as it has been since the name changed back., three for option 2:Update all links and then move Global Force Wrestling (2014–2017) to Global Force Wrestling, and one for option 3:Change it to a disambiguation page) that CLEARLY favors changing the article back to the non-dated GFW article as having a "clear lack of consensus" (which was NOT the case...AT ALL).

Also not to mention, the aforementioned user's closing statement in their initial comment ("I feel the first option is best since it is the most likely destination people would be looking for.") would be technically WRONG, as someone looking for Global Force Wrestling would NOT be looking for Impact Wrestling, but for Jeff Jarrett's GFW.

In fact, once the years are removed from the article for Jarrett's GFW & all links pointing to THAT article are restored BACK to it, I think the aforementioned user should be forced to apologize for their misinterpretation & be prohibited from ANY editing having to do with the article for Jarrett's GFW, as they've shown they CLEARLY cannot comprehend the information they are receiving. 2602:304:CEBF:8650:E004:548B:7400:5233 (talk) 10:05, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:NOTVOTE and then I will await your apology. The comments from LM2000 and HHH Pedrigree stating he is still in the business that you are agreeing with has no basis in WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so that argument gives no basis to move. The question is when people come to Global Force Wrestling what are they more likely to look for. There has not been one argument brought forward that says more people associate the name with Jarrett's promotion than Impact. I look forward to hearing your response using WP policy not your opinion as a response. - Galatz ^Talk 15:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jarrett retained the rights and ownership to his Global Force Wrestling promotion. Also, if he make a new event in 2018, we should change the name to GFW (2014-2018) or (2014-present). The fusion between Impact and GFW never happened. The rename was just for a few months. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:28, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As I stated above, I think it should be Global Force Wrestling (2014 company). I see no reason for an end date to be included. When TNA was known as GFW they had a nationally televised TV show. Jarrett's company does small non-televised shows. Just because he still uses the name, that doesnt make it the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - Galatz ^Talk 15:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's a claim to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC because they were treated as two different entities until Slammiversary.LM2000 (talk) 05:55, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It should clearly go back to Global Force Wrestling it a company that is back to its former self, don't know if you all know that he held another event under GFW for the Memphis Grizzlies at there special Wrestling Night.Jeff Jarrett And Jerry Lawler Wrestle At NBA Game, Impact Star Tweets Cesaro Throwback, Bate - Dunne JMichael22 (talk) 16:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an article with him talking about wwe helping him revive GFW by helping him with rehab Global Force Wrestling Returns, Jeff Jarrett Thanks WWE For Revival Of Company JMichael22 (talk) 16:12, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support He is holding events under Global Force Wrestling again WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is the claim, IMPACT Wrestling used the GFW name for what 3 months? They never owned the rights to the company name of logo Jeff owned it all throughout the impact run and once they broke ties he restarted GFW no years should be needed at all its just Global Force Wrestling but I feel a separate section on the page should have all the information regarding the Impact Wrestling / GFW merger. LovelyAngle (talk) 16:23, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Both Global Force Wrestling (2014–2017) and Global Force Wrestling are currently move-protected. This means that an administrator will have to move the latter to Global Force Wrestling (disambiguation), and the former to the latter. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 16:41, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support JARRETT STILL HOLDS THE RIGHTS AND IS CURRENTLY PROMOTING GFW. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.41.69 (talk) 17:30, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 19:31, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Going to review this article. MWright96 (talk) 19:31, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead

"The promotion ran several live events and television tapings for a potential television show." - reptition of television
"Impact Wrestling assumed the GFW name the following month, but the name was dropped " - but it was dropped

History

"As part of GFW's relationship with New Japan Pro Wrestling, GFW presented NJPW's" - reptition of GFW
"GFW's television program was "Amped". Amped tapings took place" - try not to begin the start of the following sentence like this
"sixteen one-hour shows filmed at the Las Vegas tapings and hoped to have the shows" - programs
"and with TVNZ Duke in New Zealand on February 18, 2016." - try and with New Zealand's TVNZ Duke on February 18, 2016.

That's my lot. Nothing major but it will be put on hold for the time being. MWright96 (talk) 18:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All done.LM2000 (talk) 04:31, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay then. Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 05:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another name change?

I'm not suggesting that we move the article, or even make any substantial changes, but in their press release for the Fite TV deal they call themselves "Global Force Entertainment" and "GFE". The article has a new GFE logo but the main website logo has not changed.[1] The official company name was always Global Force Entertainment to begin with, so this could be a nothing, but we should keep an eye on it.LM2000 (talk) 08:04, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Recent sources have used the GFW name again, so I'm going to assume they were using GFE while talking about the company's legal name.LM2000 (talk) 09:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request to rename the article to Global Wrestling Entertainment.

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The result of the move request was: not moved (page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 05:50, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Global Force Wrestling → Global Wrestling Entertainment – Jeff Jarrett stopped calling the promotion "Global Force Wrestling" months ago, and now has been using the name "Global Wrestling Entertainment" or "GWE" for a few months, including co-producing the NWA 70th Anniversary Show. It would help keep the article up-to-date and it would also help to avoid confusion with Impact Wrestling.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Epicneter (talk • contribs) 03:50, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicneter: I have replaced the inappropriate {{Rename media}} template with a requested move. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support move. This is a rather obvious case, as the founder has actively renamed it. ONR (talk) 07:45, 18 November 2018 (UTC) (Removing support 12:51, 19 November 2018 (UTC))[reply]
Oppose Where has this promotion ever been called "Global Wrestling Entertainment"? Did you mean "Global Force Entertainment"? As you can read from #Another name change?, I've been following this since early this year. Global Force Entertainment, inc. has been the official company name since day one and they've put out some confusing press releases since they separated from Impact in which they use both the GFW and GFE names. However, they have continued using the GFW name, including in the NWA 70 announcement.[2] It remains WP:COMMONNAME.LM2000 (talk) 08:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think Epicneter missed the name. I googled GWE and I found nothing. GFW looks like is the official name. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 08:58, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Nomination is based on a misunderstanding of the facts. "Global Force Entertainment" is the legal name of the company, "Global Force Wrestling" is the dba promotion name that hasn't been used much lately but remains the best known, and therefore WP:COMMONNAME. The proposed title is neither, and seems to be a plain mistake. oknazevad (talk) 16:45, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Based on WP:COMMONNAME and logic JC7V (talk) 02:12, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 November 2018

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. This was literally discussed in the previous RM with clear consensus that WP:COMMONNAME calls for the current title to remain. Really no need for an additional discussion.(non-admin closure) oknazevad (talk) 14:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Global Force Wrestling → Global Force Entertainment – Global Force Entertainment (GFE) owner Jeff Jarrett has stated multiple times that the promotion has been renamed to "Global Force Entertainment" or "GFE." Their name on Twitter is even "Global Force Entertainment^[1] and we even call the promotion "Global Force Entertainment" in the Wikipedia page. Epicneter (talk) 00:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Global Force Entertainment". twitter.com. Retrieved 26 November 2018.

Oppose - The issue was already discussed in the section above. Not to mention, the promotion's official website STILL references it as GFW. In fact, the actual Twitter handle for the company (@GFWWrestling) STILL references the company's GFW branding. Did you ever think that maybe Jarrett was referring to the company in a CORPORATE capacity? Now, I'd support the move IF its website referred to it as Global Force Entertainment/GFE & if its Twitter handle did the same. But, until that happens, I firmly oppose moving the page's name from its Global Force Wrestling/GFW branding. 2600:1700:C960:2270:A05E:DC74:77A1:D86A (talk) 04:53, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and speedy close The company name has always been Global Force Entertainment but they do business as Global Force Wrestling. The last move discussion was just closed and although you requested a different name in error we understood what you meant.LM2000 (talk) 05:27, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Global Force Entertainment". twitter.com. Retrieved 26 November 2018.

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