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Requested move 7 August 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved Michael Reiter → Michael Reiter (computer scientist), created dab page at Michael Reiter. Despite a surge in page views, there is little evidence for long-term significance of the officer. No such user (talk) 09:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

– A comparison of the pageviews shows that Michael Reiter (police officer) is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Although the computer scientist pass WP:NPROF, there is barely any WP:SIGCOV of him. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 18:25, 7 August 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 21:32, 24 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 22:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:18, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Michael Reiter (police officer) → Michael Reiter and support Michael Reiter → Michael Reiter (computer scientist). This does not appear to be a WP:ONEOTHER arrangement and. therefore, Michael Reiter should be a disambiguation page. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Roman Spinner, you say this is not a WP:ONEOTHER case. Why is that? Also, a disambiguation page would be pointless. There are no pages at Mike Reiter, Mike Ritter (redirect, non-notable fictional character), Michael Ritter, Micheal Reuter, or Mike Reuter. What is the point of having a disambiguation page with only two articles listed. As far as surnames go, Reiter (surname) is rare. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 18:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
C&C, WP:OTHERSTUFF does exist — just glance at the 314,719 listings at Category:Disambiguation pages with short descriptions. You can start with "A" — Aamer Bhatti, Aamer Iqbal, Aamer Manzoor, Aamer Munir or Aaron Garcia and continue to "Z" — there may well be 100,000 two-entry dab pages. Thus, there is obviously consensus for such two-entry pages and, while the police officer did gain recent Jeffrey Epstein-related attention, there is no indication that his own personal notability rises to such an elevated degree that he becomes the unquestioned WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I do agree, of course, that the computer scientist should no longer remain as the default primary. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:22, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I used Massviews to look at several of those cases. They appear to be cases in which neither gets pageviews or they both get similar number of page views. In this case, the police officer is getting 100x more views since the Netflix series and it is only going to increase with the continuing case of Ghislaine Maxwell. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 21:31, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support There is no doubt recentism is at play here, but given the computer scientist seems to get, on average, around 1 view per day I am ok deferring to the clear reader interest and use of the name.--Yaksar (let's chat) 16:01, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Michael Reiter (police officer) → Michael Reiter and support Michael Reiter → Michael Reiter (computer scientist) per Roman Spinner. Neither looks primary to me in terms of longterm significance, and it's also helpful for link sorting not to go straight from one bring primary to the other. — Amakuru (talk) 16:49, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There very few incoming links into Michael Reiter. Outside main space, almost all the links are caused by this RM. There are only ~7 income links from main space, one of which is caused by this RM. Link sorting is not an issue. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 04:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Clear primary topic by the evidence.Cúchullain ^t/c 15:24, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Michael Reiter (police officer) → Michael Reiter and support Michael Reiter → Michael Reiter (computer scientist), and make the base name a DAB. The academic should be disambiguated, there seems to doubt there. But the pageview arguments are unconvincing in view of recent and temporary attention given to the police officer. So best to disambiguate both. Andrewa (talk) 10:50, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Disambiguate per WP:NOPRIMARY. Neither of these topics makes a great case for primacy. BD2412 T 01:38, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.