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Her as nanny for Biden’s

How come nothing is said about this? 2601:580:4501:2910:F846:2537:B0E4:C930 (talk) 15:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is untrue: see this Snopes piece on it, for instance. Wasted Time R (talk) 16:44, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They were at least 50 miles apart when she went to high school right? 100.33.101.100 (talk) 06:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

False claim: "First wife of a vice president or president to hold a salaried position during her husband's tenure"

Hillary Clinton was a senator for the final 17 days of Bill Clinton's term, making this claim not true. Can I delete this? Zsrocks04 (talk) 05:32, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, don't delete this. The meaningfulness of the claim is about holding a real job throughout most or all of a first ladyship, not some tiny fraction at the end of a tenure. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And yet, it's simply not true. If your claim is about the meaningfulness, I'd argue that being a senator is a hell of a lot more meaningful than community college professor. I understand your point, and I'm going to change it to "during the majority of her husbands tenure". Zsrocks04 (talk) 00:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. This is why Wikipedia gets its reputation for pedantry. Hillary was First Lady of the United States for 2,922 days, of which she was a U.S. Senator for 17 days. Do you see how minuscule that is? It's about half of a percent. And here's the important part. Hillary maintained her career as a lawyer throughout her time as First Lady of Arkansas, and she could have continued on with that career once she became FLOTUS. But she chose not to. By comparison, Jill Biden did choose to continue her career when she became FLOTUS, and that career has become part of her first ladyship and her public image. That's the important distinction (and despite what you seem to think, community college professors can make a real difference in people's lives). Hillary has many important firsts – first and still only FLOTUS to run for office, to serve in elective office, to serve in a cabinet position, to get a presidential nomination – but first FLOTUS to hold a paying job is not one of them. That distinction belongs solely to Jill Biden. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Education and career, marriages and family

"They met on a blind date set up by his brother Frank,[20] who had known her in college,[27]" Needs to be amended as in Frank Biden's marriage announcement in 1985, he described himself as coming from San Francisco and as having studied at San Francisco State University. He is also described as having attended Cornell University and Pepperdine Law School in Malibu, California. <ref>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7961825/Meet-Frank-Biden-Joes-brother-place-inner-circle-resume-raises-questions.html<ref> Ladcor (talk) 10:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hagiography

Parts are written hagiography-like. I haven’t had time to flesh out the entire article, but I found two specific parts in “Education and career, marriages and family” problematic.

”…several of her students there later recalled her as genuinely caring about them.” and “There she taught English composition and remedial writing, with an emphasis on instilling confidence in students.”

First point is supported by cite 43, but not something that belongs in an encyclopedic article, and second point is not justly represented as per its source of 45.

This entire section of the article is hagiography-like, listing virtues. Username3505 (talk) 10:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Encouraging Joe Biden to step aside in 2024 presidential run

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Include reference to the very many publications pointing to Jill Biden's roll in convincing Joe Biden to step aside in the 2024 presidential race based on his universally panned performance in the June 27th debate with Donald Trump. See the New York Times for reference: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/us/politics/jill-biden-says-she-reassured-the-president-in-the-moments-after-a-dismal-debate.html?searchResultPosition=2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calengr1 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based at least on the article title, I think the actual situation was that she convinced Joe Biden not to step aside. Otherwise, yes it is information that can be added, though I don't have the time to do so myself. Liu1126 (talk) 05:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]