Talk:Salma Hayek

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Dyslexic

I have read a few times now that she is dyslexic. Is there any plans on this? Is it an urban legend? I have done some reading on it, but the only thing I can find are those Celebrity Fact Sheet pages, and they aren't exactly reliable.

If we can find enough supporting information to add it, we might also want to add her name to the dyslexic page, under Famous dyslexics.

heritage

Question: What is Salma´s father in origin? I heard that her father´s Religion is Maronit-Orthodox that is a christian Religion. The most christian Lebanes are Aramean(Syriacs). Can anybody help me with the truth?

PS. Syriacs are not the inhabitants of the land Syrian, Syriacs means the Arameans.

Answer: her father is maronite, maronites have nothing to do with the orthodox sect. They are Catholics.

Her grandparents are Maronite Assyrians (otherwise known as Syriacs, Arameans, Chaldeans see Assyrian naming dispute) who lived in Greater Syria (which is now infact Lebanon today for simplicity's sake) which makes her father of Assyrian-Lebanese descent. ILLeSt 14:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Neutral?

The glowing description of 'Frida' is a bit flowery. Not inaccurate per se, but a little overdone, maybe.

I agree adding a section on her dyslexia (she is dyslexic) would be a good touch

matthew perry a foreign star?

matthew perry was born in massachussetts and holds duel us/canadian citizenship

Foreign-ness is all relative. He is foreign to me, since I'm Australian. --Thexeber 17:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Hayek

Is Hayek her real last name? Its a German name not Mexican or Lebanese so I assume it isn't. Does anyone know her true name?

It is her real last name. It's not German, it's Lebanese. Her father's parents were Lebanese. --Vizcarra 23:23, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

It's actually a Levantine-Assyrian surname popular with the Syriacs in Lebanon

What about Friedrich von Hayek?

Yep.. Hayek (????) is an Arabic word and a common name especially in Lebanon.

It's a coincidence that happens a lot between arabic and German, in Arabic Hayek means someone who sews, other examples of words that have the same sound in arabic and german but never the same meaning would include (Viel, Herr, Bis, Kalb, Loch, Kuss, ... etc)

Images

This is really crazy: Almost whatever page I have a look at these days (see, for example, Teri Hatcher), the PD images or fair use screenshots have been replaced by "better" (ha) images, and immediately someone else comes along and tags them {{unverified}}. Haven't we got better things to do than working against each other?

I'm wondering if someone has an idea how to handle this problem in the future. If we don't do anything about it, it will rise exponentially. For the time being, I'm going to use the old Salma Hayek image again here, ignoring both Image:Salma_hayek.jpg and Image:Salma.jpg. My guess is that it'll take about two hours until it is removed again. <KF> 00:23, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but when you put images up that are copyright violations, you are the one working against the project. Removing the illegal images is not working against each other, it's doind what needs to be done. You can't ignore the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/law">law</a> just because you want a prettier picture. DreamGuy 03:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Wake up, DreamGuy, and read again what I have written. <KF> 20:27, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

PS And also have a look at the following talk pages:

• Talk:Michelle_Pfeiffer
• Talk:Nicole_Kidman#Images_and_missing_images
• Talk:Audrey_Hepburn#Images. <KF> 20:42, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

-Okay, so can someone find a nice picture of Hayek that's usable? ASAP? Heh.

Cleanup

I've tried to clean up the language to a more professional standard of English, and removed some of the more "fannish" turns of phrase in favour of neutral language. Mhacdebhandia 03:37, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

-Made several corrections in grammar, spelling. gspawn 16:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Relation to FA?

This question will probably have a "no" for an answer but is Salma Hayek at all related to the famous nobel laureate economist Friedrich Hayek, AKA F.A. Hayek? --Atlastawake 19:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Does she look like she would be related to anyone from an old prominent German/Austrian family? (unsigned by 24.141.217.93

Yes, she does. --Vizcarra 06:21, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

You never know....it might be a second cousin or something.--Atlastawake 01:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Picture bis

er... does one of the most beautiful women there is hava to have such an awful picture on her article? Jules.LT 23:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree, that picture is terrible! Where does one fine GFDL compatible pictures of actors/actresses? Gflores ^Talk 23:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

That's exactly the problem. See Talk:Salma Hayek#Images above. We've come full circle now. <KF> 23:17, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

So-called nuns and expulsion from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/search.php?q=school">school</a>

Hayek supposedly “terrified” so-called nuns. (Non-cloistered religious women should be called Sisters.) I guess readers are supposed to laugh at that loaded word "terrified" when it happens to religious Sisters. That word “terrified” is repeated in the vast majority of other Hayek bios on the Internet, and it’s unfortunately <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/present">present</a> here. (Who copied whom?)

Some sites specify the reason for Hayek’s expulsion: she pulled pranks on the so-called nuns such as setting their clocks back after entering their convent. This all sounds apocryphal to me and cries out for verification before such a story is ever entered into Wiki’s Hayek bio. What’s the name of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/search.php?q=school">school</a> in Louisiana? Which city? Was she formally expelled, or did her parents decide to remove Hayek? What year? Why did her parents decide to send her to the U.S. for schooling? Has even one Sister been asked to verify this whole story? Not a single site I found answers any of these questions. One should be extremely skeptical about what even Hayek claims, since celebrities (or should I say humans) are notorious for twisting the truth for their benefit. Hayek could have devised this supposedly cute story simply as a cover for her aversion to studying at the time. Or maybe it's entirely true (although I strongly doubt it). Perhaps someone writing an in-depth article or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/book">book</a> on Hayek has done or will do the necessary legwork and verification.

Why am I annoyed by this passage? I suspect it’s the typical sexist drivel aimed at college-educated women, a number of them with masters and doctorate degrees.

woah, that last paragraph kinda came out of nowhere :) Sexist? Why don't you stick with unverifiable :) Oreo man 16:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I went to school there and she was in my class for those two years. She, like most of the spanish speaking boarding school students, only planned to stay two years to learn and improve English skills. To the best of my knowledge, her exit was planned, not forced. Sally, A.S.H. Class of 84, 04:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

2005 Oscars

The line "At the 2005 Oscars, Ms. Hayek was easily the most beautiful on the red <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/carpet">carpet</a>." was removed due to bias.

Arabic and Portuguese fluency?

Where did this claim come from? She's obviously fluent in Spanish and English, but I hadn't heard of her speaking Arabic or Portuguese. I tried to find some more information online, but couldn't find a good source. f(x)=ax²+bx+c 06:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think she speaks Arabic, I have seen an interview with here made by an Arabic channel and she spoke in English.

Lebanon Inmigrants were coming to Mexico in the early 30's. They're very well known in Mexico City as custom made tailors and clothes/textil traders. Her Grand parents came from Lebanon. Is it that too hard to understand?

Religion/Ramtha?

There have been many rumors about Salma's invlovement in RSE, or the Ramtha <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/search.php?q=school">School</a> of Enlightenment. These rumors are very well founded, as she calls Yelm, Washington her <a href="http://www.hrena.com/search.php?q=home">home</a> for at least a month out of each year. That is a rumor as well, but it is reasonable because I personally have helped her find landscaping ideas at my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?page=job">job</a> in Yelm. One of my co-workers lives two doors down from her. I don't know how much internet digging will do, as I'm not sure she wants this information publicly avilable, but the wiki entry isn't necessarily complete.

http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060716/NEWS/607160343 http://www.ramtha.com/createyourday/

"devoutly Catholic family". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maronite_Church - 217.21.53.237 22:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Fansite

Regarding the "one fansite if necessary" rule of thumb, as I said, I was aware of this; however, I did not necessarily think that the existing one was better just by virtue of its already being on the page. Upon examining them both a bit, the new one which was added seems to contain more information, as well as having been online since October 2004, while the other has only been online since July 25, 2006. This in itself obviously doesn't make it inferior, but may speak to the depth of the contents. I did not research either site in-depth; any other opinions on which to keep? Shannernanner 05:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I have no problem with that site replacing the other, I just didn't want to have multiple sites listed. As to which one should be listed, I can't say I looked into the matter too deeply either. I thought the one that was already listed looked nicer, but both seemed to be fairly well updated. If the one you replaced it with does indeed have more depth, then it's probably best to leave it there. f(x)=ax²+bx+c 07:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

'most important actress'

I find this sentence 'She is arguably the most important Mexican star in Hollywood today.' very strange. What does does make an actress 'important'? She might be the biggest or highly paid actress, but important is subjective, therefor: not NPOV.--Soetermans 19:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. I wouldn't call it NPOV, but definitely weasel words. Cburnett 05:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Measurements

Her measurements are missing. Many sites list it as 36C-25-37 with source as Celebrity Sleuths Magazine. Is there a verifiable source? InTeGeR13 18:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure the Encyclopædia Britannica has documented proof of Ms. Hayek's breast and backside measurements...you could start there. While we're at it, the articles of Katie Couric, Diane Keaton, and Condoleeza Rice are missing breast and backside measurements as well. Sigh. I think I'm going to stop reading these talk pages for a while........

Well, I dunno much about her measurements, but what I know well is that she's 157cm tall! Hope this bit of info will be useful for you... ;) Damn, she's so attractive! Asharidu

First paragraph very awkward

The first paragraph is difficult to read. It should be simplified to the awards she has won and let the nominated ones fill in elsewhere. Morenooso 20:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

February 13 2007 edit concerning Ramtha

Where in the citations does it read she is/was a member of Ramtha? I can find no reference. Ronbo76 05:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Reference #6 doesn't mention Hayek AFAICT. Xiner (talk, email) 16:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

::It is also referenced by #5 which is to the general page on Ramtha. If no valid citation exists, this comment should be removed as it becomes POV. Ronbo76 16:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Fiance

Link under personal life changed to François-Henri Pinault, who is her fiance. Previously linked to his father, François Pinault, who is married.--Harropc 22:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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did you know she recently became an american citizen? it is not included in the artcile.

Edits regarding nationality

Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Opening paragraph. It states:

Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.

In Hayek's case, she is very notable for being a Mexican actor who has taken the international stage through her varied accomplishments. Ronbo76 01:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Please note that despite the notation in the edit summary left by the user, I do not endorse the edit's made by Armyranger. Furthermore, Mexican is a nationality, not an ethnicity, and should be included per #3 in the MOSBIO referenced above. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Concur. Ronbo76 10:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

did you know she got us ciizenship? read the vdare article

Despite limited fluency in English, Hayek moved to Los Angeles, California, in 1991 to study acting under Stella Adler, hoping for a career in Hollywood. Robert Rodriguez and his producer wife Elizabeth Avellan soon gave Hayek the break she needed, a starring role opposite Antonio Banderas in 1995's Desperado. The movie caught Hollywood's attention, as moviegoers proved to be as dazzled by Hayek as Rodriguez had been. Due to Salma's loyalty to the director she would later decline playing the role Catherine Zeta-Jones eventually took in The Mask of Zorro after Rodriguez abandoned the project.

Fair use rationale for Image:El callejon de los milagros scene.PNG

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Fair use rationale for Image:Frida ashlejudd.jpg

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Academy Awards

The article said she was one of only three mexican actresses to have been nominated for an oscar.Hayek is the first and only mexican to be nominated for an oscar and the second hispanic female to be nominated for one.

    First Mexican Actress to be nominated for an Oscar was Katy Jurado (died in 2006). The second one scapes from my mind this moment. Salma was the Third. And this is a true Fact.  But she was the first nominated for a LEading Female Role. That's Different.

Salma Hayek is the second of three Mexican actresses nominated. The first was Katy Jurado and the third was Adriana Barraza. The article previously mentioned Hayek as one of four Hispanic actresses nominated to an Oscar. The truth is closer to one of eight to ten. Other than Hayek, Jurado and Barraza other Hispanic actress nominees include Rita Moreno (Puerto Rican), Norma Aleandro (Argentine), Rosie Perez (of Puerto Rican descent), Catalina Sandino Moreno (Colombian) and Penelope Cruz (Spanish). There is also winner Mercedes Ruehl (partly of Cuban descent) and Fernanda Montenegro (as a Portugese speaking Brazilian not technically Hispanic but a Latina indeed).Light Bulb 08:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Powerful?

"She is considered as the most powerful mexican in the United States." By who? What does that even mean? She's an entertainer. Could she have me killed? --Howdybob 03:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Broken Link

Source #23 is not working, i.e. the link does not work.

Tetty2 21:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Images

I have put new images up of Salma Hayek.C6758 03:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Please do not use copyrighted material in violation of policy, thanks. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 04:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

He, sorry for the inconvenients I made of cause. I'm much appreciative for the time you have taken overseen this article. As an individual I can understand the necessity for standards and as such I will do my very best to follow all conventions and reguletions set foot by Wikipedia. However, it seems it has became the norm withing this article to remove images. I hope all edits of this aricle ramain imparcial. As for the images in question, no longer will they be depicted within the article itself. In addition I will be greatefull if you can give me additional information on how I can better use copyrighted material and images as I will continu to edit this article. C6758 06:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)