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Repost -- Jreferee t/c 17:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I have an updated version of the DYK tool which addresses nearly all your recent comments. I've created a new history table, see Wikipedia:Recent additions 145/History. There's at least one anomaly I'm still chasing (Boosey & Hawkes). As usual, let me know if there's anything that looks like the tool should have caught. BTW - there are more multiple noms in Wikipedia:Recent additions 147/History than you noticed. I've added two more rows. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Hopefully, the updated version of the DYK tool can catch the multiple noms (however they are configured). I'll try to keep an eye out for multiple credits, like this one. I'll get on Wikipedia:Recent additions 145/History and use this thread to post any comments. -- Jreferee t/c 14:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The bot missed this nom Armed Forces (sports society) probably to the article name change. -- Jreferee t/c 17:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Lakes

You know, I think all geographic features such as lakes are notable, however inadequate the article. You might want to restore Siltcoos Lake that you speedy-deleted, and mark it as a stub. DGG (talk) 01:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you've been working on this article, for which thanks; I was trying to find the right stub tab for it, or alternately find some sort of Oregon group and get them to take this on. But thanks for adding the cites, I think that will save it from any further speedy tags. I'll keep looking for a way to get someone to adopt it. Accounting4Taste:talk 01:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. You found the right stub, you found the right project, and faster than I could even get started; I can tell this article is in VERY good hands. Thanks again. Accounting4Taste:talk 02:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol

After spending a long time on vandalism patrol I'm now trying New pages patrol. You reversed my db-bio nomination on Phil Williams (presenter) and that's fine. Even though I've read CSD, etc. It still takes experience to develop judgment. So I want to learn from my mistake on this one. Is there an objective criterion that I overlooked or is it just a judgment call? Is there any better way for me to learn the criteria and proper judgment except by being bold and continuing on patrol, making CSD calls as I see them? Could you please take a look at[1] and give me your opinion on the three articles I mention there? Thanks. Sbowers3 (talk) 02:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phil Williams (presenter) is on TV, so it seems enough importance/signifance. Another admin might have deleted it. Be bold. It's a team effort between those tagging and those deleting. If you tag it wrong and I see a different reason to speedy delete, I'll speedy delete if for the different reason. -- Jreferee t/c 02:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for both answers. Sbowers3 (talk) 02:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my CheapAssMTA pages BEFORE I could finish the talk page

Why did you do that AFTER I put a HOLDON on the page??? You totally ignored Wikipedia protocol! User:arfon

CheapAssMTA didn't have a holdon template on the page. I deleted it under CSD G11 Blatant advertisement masquerading as an article. See WikiSpam. It also could have been deleted under CSD A7 No reasonable assertion of importance/significance. -- Jreferee t/c 02:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It did have a "hold on", I copied and placed it per the instructions! 2nd, You deleted the page again EVEN THOUGH it was a copy of the Zimbra MTA page... When will that one be deleted????

I leave the CheapAssMTA article for another admin. -- Jreferee t/c 02:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CSD A1 versus CSD A7

I nommed Airgunsmith for speedy delete per A1, and you deleted per A7. Did it qualify under both, or was I mistaken in my nom? Thanks, Mr Which ^??? 02:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CSD A1 is for very short article with little or no context for the statements made. There seem to be enough context (although the time element was missing), although reasonable people could disagree. It qualified for A7. -- Jreferee t/c 02:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So you don't feel that my gut feel of an A1 violation was wrong per se, but rather that it was a more clear example of an A7. Is that a fair read of your take? Mr Which ^??? 02:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your A1 violation request was fine. Another admin might have deleted it under A1. -- Jreferee t/c 02:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help. I'm still finding my see legs, and I appreciate all the help I can get in IDing candidates for speedy. Mr Which ^??? 02:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You might also want to participate at WP:DRV. That's where the speedy deletions are challenged. -- Jreferee t/c 03:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template talk:Did you know backlogged

Template talk:Did you know backlogged, your attention would be appreciated. Benjiboi 17:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Privatemusings

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DRV notices

Are you doing these semi-automated? I just saw you leave a notice for RickK, who hasn't been around for a couple of years... EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:15, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Every now and then, I go through all the DRV listings and then post notices to each of the deleting admins. I'll try to be more careful. -- Jreferee t/c 20:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD closures

Rather than tell me how wrong I was to close certain afd's maybe your time would be better spent dealing with the current afd backlog Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. If my decisions were so wrong why haven't you re-opened them? RMHED (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jreferee, please review this comment on my talk page by an uninvolved senior editor. GRBerry 01:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you! I appreciate the userbox...I put it on my userpage. Nikki311 03:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Malayalam Miffed

I just got a little harsh with you on the Mappila Malayalam AfD. I researched every reference to that article, googled it 5 different ways and checked every link, researched it in outside biblio-sources, contacted a few people I know I Kerela both Indian and American that run orphanages there, and there is not one thing to substantiate that as a dialect in and of itself. It is being connected to Islam for some reason and some one on a the Malayalam page tried to create Buddhist Malayalam, Jewish Malayalam, Hindu Malayalam, etc. The primary contributor is confused along religious and ethnic lines and he is creating his own dialects and putting them Wiki. This is merely a case of someone making things up as original unacademic research in an area where a linguistics authority is needed.

I was a bit miffed that you posed that I censor my opinions and then I see that you are an established Admin. Not Kosher---Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 19:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Hey, thanks!!! :) Didn't know it got noticed... Anyways, I actually wanted to have YakBak in a crazy, colourful way, but my signature became toooo long to be acceptable. So I settled for yak. The concept got stuck in my head cos the band, Audio Adrenaline used to credit one of its members with actually doing the Yak-Bak on their records... Way too funky. :D aJCfreak yAk 21:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The NAS

Glad to see that the links to it are increasing! :) Acalamari 03:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, heh, good posting! I use my own userspace template, User:Acalamari/RFAcongratulations, to give to new admins, though I sometimes write a personal posting depending on the situation. My template gives them the Admins' T-shirt and a link to the school. Even if a new admin has been given more than one link to the school, I think that's a good sign because if more people recommend it, more people will visit the school. Good one for asking Deskana to include the school in his posting to new admins; I know that at least one bureaucrat, Warofdreams, includes a link to the school in his postings to new admins. Acalamari 17:17, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RMHED

He has now switched from controversially closing AfDs to controversially tagging every episode in TV series (currently Heroes and Star Trek) with Notability tags. Is this user in need of a block to let him know that WP is not about making points to others based on our own personal opinions? Mr Which ^??? 16:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you think RMHED's actions meet Wikipedia:Disruptive editing, perhaps explain your reasoning to RMHED on his talk page. If that does not work, try Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. -- Jreferee t/c 17:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried on his talk. He's flippant and clear that he doesn't care what others think. As for AN/I, we're not admins, and I don't care to wade into that morass. I went to an admin that had interacted with him (you), after trying to discuss his actions at his talk page. Mr Which ^??? 17:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear to me whether RMHED's actions meet Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. The best place to get an opinion on that is at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. -- Jreferee t/c 17:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I may take it to another admin, but AN/I isn't really an option for me. Too much drama. Mr Which ^??? 17:34, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Democrat In Name Only

Regarding your post on my talk page--I certainly believe everything I said about the article and would support having something there. However, generating content is not really my thing on WP, so I'm not going to take a stab at writing a new article. I hope somebody does, though. Croctotheface (talk) 04:33, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for supporting me! Please find your thank you card here, should you wish to see it. I'm honored to have received your support; don't know if you remember, but you helped me out with some questions I had early on, and I really appreciated it :) All the best, ~Eliz81^(C) 23:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: Signing with a different name

Hello, I noticed that you left a message on my talkpage and then deleted it, so I thought I would clarify the issue that you brought up. Danielrocks123 is my old user name, I recently had it changed to Dantheman531, which is how it appears when I leave my signature now. Hope this helps. --דניאל - Dantheman531 02:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I previously figured it out, so I deleted the message. But I appreciate your post. : ) -- Jreferee t/c 13:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Somewhat-Belated RfA Thanks

Tapadh Leibh (Thank You)...

Dean24

I would like to report this user for recreating an already deleted page...-Razorflame (talk) 17:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You posted {{db-group}} on the Badminton cricket club and the page was speedy deleted. There is are warning schemes at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. If any apply, just add the warnings as needed and the user automatically will be reported based on the posted warning level. -- Jreferee t/c 17:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Spime DRV

Precisely because I was a closing admin, it would be kinda pompous to "endorse" myself. I don't want to weigh in during the review, unless I am asked for additional explanations or I have to contest some statements. `'Míkka >t 19:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RfA question

Mouse strain. Tim Vickers (talk) 20:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your vote of confidence and feel free to add me to you Rolodex now, but you should know that Tim Vickers is a big molecular biology geek too.--DO11.10 (talk) 22:37, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

Did you delete Velvet Sky there were other sources that backed up her claims than MySpace and she's certainly notable considering she is one of the first TRUE TNA Knockout wrestlers, remember this is an encyclopedia not a ditatorship why did no one care to notify me that my creation was being deleted--KingMorpheus (talk) 23:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK backlogged again

Hi, Template talk:Did you know backlogged six hours (a full cycle), your attention would be appreciated. Benjiboi 22:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Generalized Ozaki cost function

Thx for your note on the above article. There about 289,000 "Google Scholar" hits for "cost function" but only 1 for "Ozaki cost function" (an article by the same author as for the "A Nonhomothetic Generalized Leontief Cost Function Based on Pooled Data" reference in the WP article). So, it does not seem to have enough scholarly attestation to survive a request for deletion of the article. Further, there is not even a "Cost function" article for WP. So, the above article would seem to have a very limited audience. Sorry. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 23:43, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moonriddengirl

Good job! But I pointed out how nuanced her good critcial thinking skills are.:) Cheers, 02:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Knicksfan4ever

I interacted with him early on, when he was screwing up while trying to keep his articles from being deleted. I came to the conclusion that he was a sincere, but truly frustrated newbie. I see that it has escalated pretty unpleasantly. I left him an offer to help, and I hope he will take it. You may not like me much, but you know that I'm a stickler for notability and proper sourcing. Kww (talk) 12:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I try not to take a personal interest in any thing I do on Wikipedia and my interest in things usually only last about three days. This combination keeps me from generating bad feelings and/or holding grudges towards others. I have no bad feelings towards you and I see it as that we merely had a disgreement. Knicksfan4ever is new and his/her reaction is typical of someone used to contributing on the Internet in places outside of Wikipedia. Most people have a rocky start with the Wikiway. I'm sure Knicksfan4ever will do fine. -- Jreferee t/c 15:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to both of you guys, you are correct with your assessments, I am a newbie trying to feel myself around and learn. I've been using wikipedia for about a year to do research on an array of subjects and found it to be helpful. Someone else created the article that was deleted and I found out about it, which is why I decided to join because I felt it was notable and I went through the proper channels to discuss, but instead of receiving help, it felt like I was being ganged up on. I was not trying to "wikistalk" or badger anyone, truly not the case. After receiving a response from the nominator I did some research and did notice that the edits that were made on certain pages, which made me come to the conclusion that it was personal, which is why I exchanged words (should I say text) with the person. I do agree it went a little too far and I may have let my natural human emotions get the best of me via the internet, especially about something I feel so passionately about. I do plan to correct the page along wikipedia's guidelines, I'm in the process of reading how it works, donate and have others donate to keep wikipedia going. It's a great tool!!! I just feel like everytime I make an edit to correct the page Lizz Robbins it will keep getting deleted, just like it was when I made the first edit. Thanks again, BTW, I am a female, but a huge tomboy at heart (smile)Knicksfan4ever (talk) 16:19, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Swalwell, Alberta

I'm reopening the AFD, even if it will likely end up being kept anyway. I will also admonish the user who closed it. --Core desat 19:28, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

spamming talk pages

Please stop.--Doc^g 23:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mass talk page postings

It may be a better idea to mention that on WP:AN or some other community page rather than mass posting a message (many people do not appreciate this). John Reaves 23:14, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, really, please stop. This would be far better off at a central place, and the last thing we need is you blocked for mass-messaging. Daniel 23:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, you are continuing and are not responding to concerns here. I've blocked you for 15 min. I'm happy to lift this if you agree to stop and talk this over.--Doc^g 23:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Too bad it came to this, but you were given ample time to respond. John Reaves 23:22, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John. I saw your and Docs' post at 23:17, 28 November 2007, stopped posting, and logged off as I had some pressing business. I wasn't aware I that you or anyone else was requesting a response as well. Doc's 23:19 block was two minutes after I stopped and logged off. Doc, why didn't you check my contributions before blocking me? Doc your block was wrong and you owe me an apology. -- Jreferee t/c 00:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have responded on my talk page. Daniel 01:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Me too, but since there's an accusation here about me, I will respond here too. I did check your contributions - maybe there was 69 seconds between my last refresh of your contributions loading and my finishing deciding on the duration of the block and what to write in the block summary. Sorry for that delay.--Doc^g 01:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is a reasonable explanation. No hard feelings. As I posted in several other locations, I regret the concern I cause in everyone. -- Jreferee t/c 02:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Classification of admins

My user name will probably be an orphan category. Aquarius  talk 01:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added myself to the Letter category (in case it isn't obvious,--and it isn't :P--A and O are capital because of Alpha and Omega). Cheers! · AndonicO ^Talk 03:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added myself too. :) Yonatan ^talk 15:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dlohcierekim

Wow. You made me blush. :) Thank you. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About “Justice as Fairness” and “Equity (Law)”. Rawls belongs in Philosophy of Law or Philosophy of Politics, not in Equity (Law).

Justice works by rules while equity works by discretion (two processes which are not mutually exclusive, more like interdependent). It is sort of like the duality of electricity and magnetism. You have some finite total energy to apportion between a rule which you adopt now but which only approximates the justice you seek to foster and a delegation of the rest to the discretion of the decision maker at the time subject to objection and application of further rules (hence the duality). Think lazy evaluation versus structure of computer programs for implementing an algorithm. --Jrgetsin (talk) 13:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your exhaustive support note with review

	Dear Jreferee, Thank you for supporting in my recent RfA. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Wikipedia, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 16:42, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: Classification of admins

I'd love to add my name, but I'm not sure exactly where it'd go (my intention is that it was to be unique and funny in a Who's on First kind of way, not to represent anything really, and the "0" for the "o" is so that it wouldn't be too confusing (and because "You" was already taken at a few websites I use.) Y0u | Y0ur talk page 20:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]