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Did you know?[edit]

An impression of the abstract concept of WikiLove
An impression of the abstract concept of WikiLove
  • ... that if it wasn't for people like you then wikipedia woud not be so much fun Well done. Victuallers 07:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! and I like the heart. I'll put it on my user page. -- Jreferee (Talk) 07:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jon Stewart[edit]

Hello, I reviewed it and it appears all the vandalism has been taken care of so far. (There's some recent good faith edits that could use cleaning up though.) What I can do is track down the vandals and put vandalism warnings on all their pages. I love to do that! I appreciate you asking for my help. MrBlondNYC 08:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Heine[edit]

I thought that you might be interested in knowing that I have nominated it for deletion here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ben_Heine -- Karl Meier 15:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help?[edit]

You seem to be pretty good at finding reliable sources. Our stub on the Cardinal Kung Foundation was deleted under A7 back in December. They are generally considered a reliable source for what is happening in the underground Roman Catholic Church in China, so almost everything I find google searching either a news agency or blog quoting them about what happened to somebody. ("The Vatican press office said it had no information on the death, but noted that the Cardinal Kung Foundation has been a reliable source of information about the underground church in China in the past." [1] I think we ought to have an article, but can't readily find sources to make an AFD proof article. GRBerry 19:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Disruption of WP[edit]

Excuse me, the rules as far as I know them are:
  • After 5 days the discussion may be closed.
  • WP is not a bureaucracy.
  • The issue didn't have a snowball's chance in the first place.
  • The result was posted with respect to the obviously prevailing view.
Hey listen, I am not playing games here at WP.
That insurmountably prevailing view on the issue had established itself several days before I closed the discussion APPROPRIATELY. I also know that the "administrative" types involved were taking actions AGAINST the prevailing view, in closing the second discussion. I was seriously concerned that it would close with a different conclusion.
The move that occurred during the discussion is exactly where the material has ended up after the discussion, APPROPRIATELY. Furthermore, the case for deletion is always stronger for a less-improved version, than an improved version of anything. So therefore, the foolish revert only served the agenda of trying to impose the eponymous cat policy, NOT IMPROVING THE WP. My move consisted in an improvement, and it (and all of my actions) came with appropriate notice.
Proposing to delete categories on which people are working is DISRUPTIVE. Halting the improvement of articles, in order to undergo an obviously futile administrative process, is DISRUPTIVE. As further evidence of my good citizenship here, I have proposed to amend the policy which was originally foolishly applied. We are here for the content, not the bureaucracy.
I have read the policy you cite in warning me WP:DPR#NAC. It appears that I have acted substantially IN ACCORDANCE WITH IT. Furthermore, the policy that requests for non-admins to not close CfD discussions appears to do so because of technical limitations that DO NOT APPLY in this case.
You have cited WP:OWN, a policy of which I am thoroughly aware. You cite no actual REASON for citing it. Please explain this accusation or rescind it please. Your giving me this inappropriate warning implies to me that perhaps YOU have some ownership issues. You can't handle an non-administrative close with plenty of notice, and a slam dunk conclusion?
Your notice to me consists entirely in bureaucracy for bureaucracy's sake. My actions were obviously in good faith, nonharmful, and NON DISRUPTIVE of any meaningful contributions to WP.
I realize that your communication to me is meant in a good spirit, and that this TYPE of warning is necessary on occasion. However, in this case it is NOT appropriate. Please remove your accusation. I will continue to edit Wikipedia in a respectful manner. Be well, Greg Bard 23:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Louise Glover[edit]

I looked over the article and made some grammatical corrections. I went through a couple of the edits and some of the POV material had actually been taken out. So it looks good to me. Thanks for the heads up! Dismas|(talk) 05:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jreferee, I noticed you posted a message on Mel Etitis' talk page regarding some edits to Good Girl Gone Bad. Since Mel Etitis hasn't edited since July 1, I've decided to respond for him. What's actually the problem with the article? It seems fine to me; disruptive edits have been reverted. Acalamari 18:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mel Etitis had significant contributions to that article and, given the recent heavy activity to that article, I thought it would be beneficial for Mel to give the article a read through should he happen to see my post on his talk page. -- Jreferee (Talk) 19:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine then; thanks. Acalamari 20:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: AfD concerns[edit]

I'm sorry but I just ran a quick test and I can't seem to figure out what the problem is. When {{subst:afd3 | pg=PageName}} is used, it generates the proper code. I'm probably missing something; could you be more specific? --MZMcBride 02:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I think I see what you're talking about. Give me a minute. --MZMcBride 02:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed the problem by removing an errant vertical bar. Honestly, I have no idea how that code was able to function previously using the old plainlink code, but it was. Hopefully that will be the only issue found from the recent updates to Template:plainlink. Cheers. --MZMcBride 03:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use disputed for Image:Happy Slip Logo.JPG[edit]

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Karnataka wikirage[edit]

Thanks for your note. For a moment, I thought you were the new bot on the block. Appreciate your taking time out to leave me a note. Thanks also for letting me in on that tool. Didnt know of it before. :) Sarvagnya 06:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at it and going from the last edit on the 10th here by Gscshoyru to the IP edit here the total changes over the 3 days came out to nothing. Weird. By the way the stat page is a bit deceptive, I added very little to the page and 27/28 of my edits were nothing more than reverting vandalism. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jreferee,

Before everything I was impressed by the dedication you have in Wikipedia. You really deserve appreciation. The problem with Islam and animals is like that of many other articles in that area. There is certainly an edit war going on there; not that there has not been any discussion on the talk page, to the contrary. It seems that no agreement has been achieved and edit war has surfaced again. I think the best way to proceed is through mediation and/or involvement of new editors. A page protection sometime helps towards mediation but in many cases it simply adds a delay to the system. Edit wars start once the article becomes unprotected. What is most needed I believe is involvement of new good-faith, experienced editors, not only here but in many other Islam related articles.

Best,

--Aminz 07:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, the "wiki-rage" image is funny!!!!! [2] LOL :P --Aminz 08:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Desinicization, the vandalized version[edit]

you protected the vandalized version, some important information was deleted by the vandal. you shoudl revert it back before you protect it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.1.246.192 (talk) 08:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help with the AfD. Great sources by the way. Fosnez 08:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope this dosn't count as spam, but have you considered joining the Article Rescue Squadron? Fosnez 14:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please tell me what is wrong with the article of Biterside. As far as i know I did not use any copyright violations. I'v also placed a proof in the talk page to state that the band Bitterside is notable.

I would like that you do not delete the article, since I put time on it. If there's something wrong please let me know, and I change accordingly.

Thanks! JEPAAB 08:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest hard block[edit]

User 220.245.131.209 has had far to many final warnings pursuant to vandalism. The Twins article is a current example of his or her vandalism. Albion moonlight 11:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC) Albion moonlight 11:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I figured that it might be possible that there were a lot of anonymous editors. That hit in the middle of the night though when most are asleep (I had a hard time staying up for the 12:15 CT/1:15 ET advisory) and by surprise to many. CrazyC83 14:26, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This FA has seen some anon edits in the recent past. Best thing is to put a soft lock. that will help in the short run. I am watching out for edit warring on this article and will surely help if necessary.Dineshkannambadi 15:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notifying users when pages are receiving lots of edits.[edit]

J, I noticed you have referencing wikirage a lot to other users when pages receive lots of edits. I am looking into your other edit history (velocity) requests but would also like to hear how I could make this job easier and possibly automated for you. w3ace 16:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merrydown[edit]

I have class today so I am getting ready for that, but I reverted the last vandalism and set the article up for myself to edit tomorrow when I have a free day to do the proper research.--Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 18:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your message[edit]

No, I don't think full protection is required. It was recently released, so it's normal for it to have a lot of edits, and I've been editing it for about half a year now, so I am used to reverting the vandalism there. Also, if it is protected, I won't be able to edit it anymore, since I'm not an admin. LOL. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

House of the Scorpion[edit]

Wow, when you said heavy editing by unregistered users, you were definitely right. However, considering all those edits were identified as vandalism and reverted, the article is exactly the way it was before it got vandalized.
I do appreciate that you semi-protected the article. We really needed that. The vandalism had been going on for about a year, I think. Slartibartfast (1992) 21:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, wait... you're not the one who semi-protected the page. Well, thanks for warning me of the tons of edits. Slartibartfast (1992) 23:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message. I do think the article could be improved if new and unregistered users were blocked from editing it. The problem with many of the unregistered edits is that they are in violation of NPOV and RS policies. Where possible, I try to improve sourcing of statements and show alternatives if both have RS. This article has become a target for activists seeking to insert all manner of partisan vitriol. JoeFriday 21:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use disputed for Image:Happy Slip Logo.JPG[edit]

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Re: Beer pong[edit]

Thanks, will do. --AW 00:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You forgot to add the protection template to the page when you protected it. Please add it.--SefringleTalk 02:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You might want to keep an eye on things there, something not-quite-right is going on, and I have some interesting information, should you want to look into it further. — Timotab Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!) 02:24, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

I did some edits on black hole which were reverted by you. The edits were made anonymously, sorry about that, but at least the first of them is essential to correct an embarassing confusion in the current version of the page. The "Fireball" at RHIC is not a black hole in the traditional sense of the word, nobody thinks that it is, and the article makes it seem both that it is a "micro black hole" and second that it is a "questionable" phenomenon. It is neither. It is a well established phenomenon with an analogy to black hole physics. I left a summary of edits on the talk page for Black hole. Hope at least the first edit gets put back--- its really misleading in the current version. Likebox 02:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Just wanted to drop in and say thanks for protecting Desinicization campaign. I actually brought that to another administrator's attention the other day (Jmlk17), the constant edit warring between purely anon editors, and the unwillingness to follow policy and guidelines, was making anyone else's contributions impossible. I very nearly requested protection at WP:RFPP, but I thought I would try a post on the talk page and see if that helped first. Since you've picked it up, it now has excellent references, which was the main issue, with only one reference (in Chinese) it was impossible to know what was fact and what was POV. I have to say I'm really happy you got involved, because I don't know a thing about this subject, and it would have been very hard for me to "fix" it, lol. Excellently done! ArielGold 02:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on my talk page, but I'll repeat it here as well. Yes, it is a genuine anthropological interest article, but in the form it was when I found it, I would say that it provided little, if any, valid or interesting information for the average reader. And thanks again for all the work you did on that, it will make it much easier to manage POV edits now, and your work was simply excellent! ArielGold 03:18, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, I'd like to thank you for protecting Anna Wilding, lol. I was also asked to review that situation, and I'd like you to take a look at the conversation on Timotab's talk page regarding it. It is worrisome that the editor in question has made some threatening comments, regarding police action. While I don't put a lot of stock in such threats, they should be reviewed by an administrator, perhaps. The editor strongly appears to have a connection to the subject, so I've dropped a note regarding some of the important policies, guidelines, and other issues, (WP:RS, WP:BLP, WP:COI, WP:NPOV, etc.), in the hopes that at least it may help the editor be aware of some core issues. But I'd still like an administrator to take a look at some of those concerns, and perhaps add anything they feel is appropriate. Thanks again! ArielGold 03:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE Searching alternative weekly newspapers[edit]

As you requested, I've set up Template:Alternative newspaper search. It works the same way as Template:Search, but for four newspapers I selected at random from List of alternative weekly newspapers. Obviously, someone else could add more newspapers, but the template seems to work OK. Is it what you wanted? WaltonOne 08:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh boy... alright, you ready for the next chapter in this saga? lol. I believe that immediately after I requested on the talk page, for 71.156.32.55 to create an article, they did so, with the name Adka92 (see contribs for both to compare times), and then, that user, realizing that they could no longer revert your redirect from Desinicization (I requested protection, as it was being reverted and the POV article being re-created), proceeded to create a brand new article, copying and pasting the old Desinicization article into it, De-sinicization, replacing the link on Sinicization to that, instead of to the old article. This is just getting ridiculous, and allowing yet another version of the same article. They are not happy with the renaming and moving, and I don't know enough about the topic to debate the issue. I hope you can figure this out, but it really appears to be unconstructive. ArielGold 09:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing saga update for you: De-sinicization was reidrected and protected. Now the editor has created Desinicize, again re-creating the original POV article, under a new name, Qpiuqwe . Alright, perhaps it could be another editor... but my Spidey sense says... probably not. lol. ArielGold 11:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Concern:[edit]

I would like to point out firstly, that I hardly call the "change" I made on the CN Tower page, "vandalism" And 2, if you look the facts up, the CN Tower is 181 stories tall. The skypod, which is the last observation deck, is 147 stories tall. But the "Tower" itself is equivalent to 181 building stories, trust me, I live in Toronto. I don't appreciate the threat when clearly you have not checked out the facts, and call my subtle change, Vandalism. I will take this higher if I need to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.146.167 (talk) 17:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Linkin Park[edit]

Currently, I am not really working on the article as much as I did a few months ago. I have noticed that the vandalism is disruptive at time, but also fairly manageable. I do not think it needs any protection right now, but thanks for the suggestions :). Oh, however, could you look into why the Jingle All the Way has a full protection lock? Its been locked for quite sometime now. I tried to contact the editor who locked it, but I have yet to get any feedback. Thanks --ShadowJester07Talk 18:33, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jingle All the Way[edit]

Will do. Thanks for the help. --ShadowJester07Talk 19:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: heysan![edit]

A little more than four words. Here is another article below with a photo. And some other articles on heysan. Can you please remove the protection now?

http://hyperisland.blogspot.com/2007/05/sign-up-for-heysan.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18628572/site/newsweek/?pg=4#nwk_070510_CompanyBrill

http://appleuniverse.mypodcast.com/2007/09/Apple_Universe_Episode_51_Mobile_Messaging_with_Heysan-41490.html

http://www.imessengr.com/2007/07/heysan-another-iphone-compatible-mobile.html

http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2007/07/13/heysan-a-lightweight-approach-to-iphone-im/

http://www.download.com/Heysan-AIM-MSN-ICQ/3000-13592_4-10710926.html

http://www.everythingiphone.com/iphone-application-directory/communications/heysan!-aim,-msn,-icq/details/

http://www.modmyiphone.com/apps/heysan/


--Ouvriere 16:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I protected it at Wikipedia:Protected titles/September 2007/List. I have no objection if you wish to restore it. By the way the editor has followed the correct format and posted it at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 September 18#Heysan!. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do i go and restore it? --Ouvriere 04:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any time! :)[edit]

Well thought, my dear J, and glad I could be of help :) I'll keep an eye on that AfD, and if I can offer my assistance in any possible way, you know just where to find me, right? Have a beautiful weekend! Love, Phaedriel - 22:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thankee![edit]

Thank you for the wonderful thought, my friend! :) While I'm visiting you, I'll share my own favorite quote about our project with you. Sometimes, I've been pointed out by a few people that caring for our fellow editors is a waste of time, because all that matters is building our encyclopedia. I've always believed that a little spark of warmth is indeed important in that goal. I feel this reflects it quite nicely, in a rather humorous way:

There's a difference between treating Wikipedia like a playground, and treating it like a place where you can whistle while you work.

I cannot think of a better way to say, if we're not here to enjoy our time, then we shouldn't be editing in the first place. It's not to make others and ourselves miserable; but to build our project while sharing the fun of it with those we're blessed to meet here. At least, that's a belief I'll always live by as a wikipedian. Have a beautiful weekend, dear J! :) Love, Phaedriel - 22:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I hadn't looked at it in many months. Dunno what all the anon fuss was about, I've done some light cleanup to the text but the only glaring worries I found were sloppy syntax :) Gwen Gale 22:45, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chocolate[edit]

Thank you for semi-protecting the page (I've added a semiprotection notice so people not able to edit would know why it is so). I must say that my appearance as a top editor is more due to vandalism reversions rather than additions (you can take a look at the Chocolate talk page under the thread "semiprotection" to see how bad it got before a previous semiprotection period). Currently I am busy in my life outside the net but I will try to get a reread in a week or so. Eldar 23:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RFA Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the note about changes to this article. I removed some things from it which I later saw you had added, and I added two new sections to the talk page where the removals can be discussed. I really do appreciate your note. Noroton 04:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Computer Software[edit]

I just checked the history looks like the article is in the same state it was as of Aug 29. Thanks for the heads up. Phatom87 (talk contribs) 15:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Blak Jak[edit]

Okay, thanks. It looks like I'm losing my latest case (Single File (band)), which was the last one I had on the burner, at least for now. I appreciate this, because the deck is always stacked against my favor at DRV, rather than automatically being stacked in my favor against the sharks in the water at Special:Newpages (who tend to stay away from cited sources and chart positions). Chubbles 19:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm so sorry to try to drag you in on this, but I'd really appreciate some Administrator oversight on the above article and the associated talk page. I'll not say anything more than that, right now, but feel free to ask questions if you have any. Thanks. — Timotab Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!) 19:21, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. There appear to be legal threats on User:Real77's talk page, although difficult to tell because of the poor writing. And he speaks of himself in the first person plural all of the time, excusing it by saying his wife is in the room, but I think something else is going on. KP Botany 20:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked David to forward the evidence he was sent, given his recent declaration that he's not going to work on the article. Also, given that Real77 has several times accused me of "locking" the article, could you please explain on the Wilding talk page that it was you that protected it, why you did it, and that it's only semi-protected which means that Real77 can still edit the article as long as they are logged in (but if they try to edit it as an IP as they seem to like to do, it won't work). Thanks — Timotab Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!) 13:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Userification of article[edit]

Hello Jreferee. When you get a chance, would you be able to restore Bob's Discount Furniture to my userspace, preferably with history (cf. Wikipedia:Deletion review/Content review#Requests to restore content to userspace), so I can work on an improved version as you have suggested at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 September 9. Thanks.--GregRM 19:26, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Low Spark of High Heeled Boys (song)[edit]

Hi, now I'm *really* confused. I read WP:Delete which seemed to suggest this was the route to proceed. Can you help? --Rodhullandemu 19:32, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, what did you read at WP:Delete that suggested deletion review was the way to go? -- Jreferee (Talk) 19:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • This Bit :Deletion discussion

Pages that do not fall in the above three categories may be deleted after community discussion. This includes contested speedy or proposed deletions. Here, editors who wish to participate can give their opinion on what should be done with the page...... --Rodhullandemu 19:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice - so do I have to start again in AfD? --Rodhullandemu 19:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wilding[edit]

Hey Jreferee - I'm going to do some work on the Wilding article. I've spoken to Anna Wilding on the phone. Much of the problem is that Tim is right in much of what he is doing, but the Real77 editor, who is a newbie and thus unaccustomed to "our ways" is also representing Wilding (she is in touch with him). It's not that Real is putting on incorrect stuff; he is putting on stuff for which there is little third party evidence. I am going to probably do--she has tentatively agreed--an interview with her, which with my Wikinews accreditation allows me to do original journalism. I think that once we do that as a third party source, many of the issues will be ironed out. Right now, the article is an utter mess, but I don't think there is a rush to do anything with it, if Tim and Real would take a bit of a break from it. I am about to paint my apartment and I also have a friend in from Spain, so it probably won't be until tonight or tomorrow morning. I hope you are doing well. --David Shankbone 20:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not having anything more to do with the Anna Wilding article. I feel completely harassed by Wilding and the head of her Official fan page, and to be honest, I am at a point where I don't even care if the article is deleted. In fact, it probably would be better that way to just delete it. --David Shankbone 11:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. - I'll see what I can do about a photo for Albert Reed. --David Shankbone 11:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scrolling[edit]

Well, while I'm not sure when you'd want to do this - in order to center the scroll box just put <center> </center> tags around it (i.e. <center>{{scroll box ...}}</center>--danielfolsom 20:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry - I didn't know the stuff inside the temp couldn't be centered - try this: <center>{{scroll box ... |text=<span style="text-align:left">YOUR TEXT </span>}}</center>--danielfolsom 05:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... perhaps if you showed me the exact thing you're trying to do, I could figure it out a bit more easily.--danielfolsom 14:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request lock on "iPod touch" article[edit]

Hi,
I'd like to put in a request for semi-protection on the iPod touch article as written by you on my talk page. The article frequently gets updated with incorrect information, mostly by anonomous IP users.
Thanks,
DogGunn 05:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nike Inc.[edit]

Gwernol has been on wikibreak since July. I happen to know the SEOs who work on the Nike account and am wondering if they may be involved in this. If it looks like a PR/SEO job, let me know and I will send them a clue. - Jehochman Talk 13:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your message. The milkshake article seems to attract vandalism because there is a pop song with the lyrics "my mamas milkshakes bring the boys into the yard". New and unregistered users seem to have a compelling urge to go to the milkshake article and replace it with that phrase! Please protect the page from these vandals... Thank you....Nazamo 13:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A late thanks[edit]

Though the barnstar came nearly a month ago, I've just seen it, and wanted to say thanks! -- Natalya 20:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pure Pwnage[edit]

sorry, i have extreme lack of motivation to edit wikipedia. it seems OK though. :) -- infinity0 20:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indian rupee[edit]

The Indian rupee article received heavy editing today by new/unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. The article may benefit from a good review. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee (Talk) 07:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have done what I think is necessary. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I don't know much about the Indian rupee specifically. But I do feel strongly about formatting and structure sometimes. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikirage protections[edit]

Hi Jreferee. You seem to be indefinitely protecting articles based on wikirage, such as [3]. Could you, instead of basing protection on high levels of edits reported by another website, base it on our normal protection policy and practices. Could you review your recent protections and either unprotect them or set an expiry. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 16:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

Updated DYK query On 17 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Desinicization campaign, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Elkman (Elkspeak) 21:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Smalls notable? Hah[edit]

How could you fail to honor the speedy tag on Smalls? Notability is not asserted by any method recognised in WP:BAND.

  • No independent works
  • No charted hit
  • No certified gold record
  • No international tour
  • No released albums
  • No notable members of other bands
  • No "Most prominent member" status
  • No Grammy/Juno/etc.
  • No contest win
  • No performance on notable work
  • No rotation on radio network
  • No half hour broadcast on TV or radio

Kww 04:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CSD A7 is about asserting importance/significance. CSD A7 does not require asserting Notability. -- Jreferee (Talk) 04:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I don't understand the speedy deletion. I've added references to Cnet and Newsweek(!). How can that not "of no significane". What is your criteria of a signiciant source? Loopt is an example of another article about a similar company that has NOT been deleted.

- Gustaf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ouvriere (talkcontribs) 05:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh crap...[edit]

Thank you for point that out to me. I accidentally put a template Template:WikiProject The Who up for deletion. I reverted it as fast as I could but I guess it's spreading to all the pages where it was placed. I'm really sorry about this. Anything I can do to help fix this? - Rocket000 06:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I know, kinda wired.. I still new to template design, but I didn't think that could happen. I'll look into more. - Rocket000 06:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Mehdi[edit]

Hi, that was my first page, i don't understand why you delete that, its about a pakistani fashion designer. if i done something wrong kindly u correct it by ur self, i m typeing the text below for that page. i have also upload the picture mmehdi.jpg. Best Regards & Thank in Adv. Jugnu.

After completing his degree in 2001,Mehdi took up his passion for sculpture and pottery but decided to switch to fashion designing in 2002,by creating a small collection.Its success led to the launch of the label Mehdi in 2004,with a solo Mehdi fashion show ,which is more than most newcomers have done in the beginning of their careers. Today Mehdi is one of the top most brands of Pakistan,producing and delivering the most stunning and glamourous designs for the people in love with fashion.Mehdi has a loyal clientele and admirers of his work,both from home as well as abroad,who trust only him,with their designing. Last year Mehdi’s show titled “Vanity Fair”met tremendous success and fame in Lahore,Karachi and Islamabad.After that he showed that line in New York,Houston,Miami,Chicago and California with all the top models from Pakistan.He received great appreciation and a long queue of clients.The designer proved there that our country has a true sense of fashion and it will be recognized as one of the most tasteful countries of the world soon.His “Viva Glam”the spring summer collection in citric colours won the hearts of many showed at the beginning of the season.Mehdi creates western outfits,evening wear,formal dresses,Sarees and bridal dresses.Mehdi will also be introducing his ready to wear line in the market here and abroad towards the end of 2007. www.mohdmehdi.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jugnu5 (talkcontribs) 07:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dreadstar RfA[edit]

Thanks for your support! I took the easy way out of thanking everyone by stealing borrowing someone else's card design...but know that I sincerely appreciate your support and confidence in me! What a great comment about "the chosen ones"...it was a nice spot of humor that I really needed...! Thanks for the lol..! (and shhh, no worries, I'll beam you up with me...;) Dreadstar 07:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My successful RfA[edit]

Thank you for the nomination. :) I will proceed with caution. I appreciate your support, and I will do my best to live up to it. --Moonriddengirl 13:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PROD[edit]

Hello, I would just like to let you know I removed your PROD tag on Melbourne Press Club, but as you may, feel free to send it to AFD. I have provided a list of sources/references on the Talk page, and there are plenty more around. Thanks! Phgao 14:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Um could I ask why you placed your comment at the top, lol, I was trying to find it, and I couldn't! Is it something to do with my box? Phgao 16:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC). Also have you had a squiz at the page? As there is a list of references, I am wondering why as you say they "do not appear to be independent of the Melbourne Press Club", could you please elaborate what it means to be independent? Phgao 16:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I posted it at the bottom but a Wikipedia software error occuring just after I hit "Save Page" and before the page was actually saved apparently resulted in the post being placed at the top of your talk page. I deleted the post. -- Jreferee (Talk) 16:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok sure, I can add it to the bottom of my talk if you want? Wow that's a new for me, yes those database errors have been occuring more often...hmmm, time for another fundrasing drive? Phgao 16:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can I take it that you don't think it is suitable for AFD anymore, as you haven't replyed? Thank you. (Ok that wasn't a good edit as we all aren't our computors 24/7) Phgao 16:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do not plan to send the article to AfD. -- Jreferee (Talk) 16:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problem at Brett Favre[edit]

There is a user who was community banned quite a while ago (User:Starwars1955), and he keeps creating sock puppets to edit the Brett Favre article. Many of the admins who I knew around the time this guy was causing trouble are either retired or wikibreaking extensively, so I was hoping you could step in and start blocking his socks when they come up. Most recently is User:800 Home Runs. If you feel uncomfortable blocking a user without quite knowing what's going on, you can take a look here and here. Thanks. –King Bee (τγ) 15:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, well... in the meantime, please block this latest incarnation. Thanks. –King Bee (τγ) 11:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For me to block User:800 Home Runs, I would need to spend some time reviewing Starwars1955's post and comparing those to 800 Home Runs's posts. -- Jreferee (Talk) 14:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

VTEL[edit]

Hi,

Just wanted to inform you that the article VTEL that you had deleted has been brought back by the author. -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 16:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh![edit]

I knew I shouldn't have been posting messages so late at night...! Thanks for pointing that out, hopefully I didn't make that mistake on very many of them...holy..holy..! Dreadstar 16:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whew! Luckily, I only did that on one other page...and nothing bad came out of it...man..not a good way to start...thanks so much for notifying me! Dreadstar 16:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
~*Ariel giggles*~ ArielGold 16:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about it. It was an obvious mistake, of which admins are more likely to make given the rapid work admins perform. -- Jreferee (Talk) 16:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hee hee, I'm sure Dreadstar knows I'm just teasing, but I'll state it just to be sure, . ArielGold 16:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
lol..! Surely thou jesteth, m'lady..of course I knew thou wert making a funny...thine giggles are most divine and most welcome..! Dreadstar 17:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scholarpedia history[edit]

The history of the article has been restored. If you need anything else, please let me know. Thanks, Can't sleep, clown will eat me 18:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Logic participants roster[edit]

The logic participants roster was moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/Logic/participants. If the page history can be moved along with it, that would be wonderful. This is consistent with the rest of the philosophy task forces. Be well, Greg Bard 20:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You copied the page. You did not move the page. The effect is to give you credit in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/Logic/participants]] page history for making posts that you in fact did not originally make. Help:Moving_a_page#Wikipedia-specific_help explains why you should not move or rename a page by copying/pasting its content. Please read over Help:Moving a page. There is a tab at the top of the original roster page that says "Move". Click on that and move both the contents and the page history to a new page. If you are unable to move the original roster page, please let me know and I will do it for you. -- Jreferee (Talk) 21:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jreferee, just wanted to let you know that the PROD you placed on Chris Rush yesterday has been removed by an IP, who, in my opinion, has actually made the article much, much worse. I came across this in preparing to nominate the article for deletion myself. I'm somewhat familiar with Rush, and he did no found National Lampoon as the article claims. Furthermore, the article makes several claims which may violate WP:BLP, specifically the "His Downfall" section, which makes several unsubstantiated claims of drug and alcohol abuse, as well as some POV in that section, i.e. he found himself not the entertainer he once was. I'll leave this to you as to whether this should be nominated for deletion or not. Cheers, faithless (speak) 15:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm learning from a master. :) faithless (speak) 15:46, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hee hee[edit]

Did your paste go nuts here? Or do you want horizontal scrolling with all those dates? (Ignore me if you meant to do that, it just looked like perhaps you hadn't noticed, lol) ArielGold 15:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I meant to do that and was trying to center the string of dates as well, but couldn't. Please center it if you can. Also, if you know of a better appearing date/time post, please post that as well. And if you have other improvements to my user page, please feel free to post them, too. Thanks! -- Jreferee (Talk) 15:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay I fixed the string of dates. I also took the liberty of changing the background color to a tan/beige color, rather than that screaming loud blue, as the other parts of the page were done in browns/tans. If you hate that, and loved that bright blue, just holler at me, and I'd be happy to change it back. But, if you like it, and if you'd like the page to be more standardized with those colors, I'd be happy to do it similar to the page I made for Jakew, it would be no problem and I love doing stuff like this, so hey. ArielGold 18:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Have at it. Also, can you tone down my signature to the normal blue and perhaps move the talk down and use (T/C) or something like that? -- Jreferee (Talk) 02:54, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

I have followed your suggestion about the image in DelRev. Seemed reasonable. DGG (talk) 18:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello![edit]

Hello Jreferee! Are you online? I have a problem. Reply. Thank you. RS1900 04:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have a problem. I created the category just few minutes ago. I made an error when I made it. Thank you. RS1900 04:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's deleted. -- Jreferee (Talk) 04:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Jreferee. Now, I will recreate it. Once again, thank you. RS1900 04:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Signature[edit]

Signature with Jref bold, linking to userpage, eree not bold, leading to talk, and (c) for contribs:

Jreferee (c)

(Because we're on your talk page, the "eree" appears bold here, but not on other pages.)

Jreferee all bold, all leading to userpage, with (t) and (c) following for talk/contribs:

Jreferee (t) (c)

I wasn't sure if you wanted to change the font face, so if you wanted to go to a different font:

Jreferee (t) (c)

You can mix and match colors/fonts from these examples, let me know what you think. ArielGold 10:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have dealt with the copywrite issues so please don't delete the page thankyou --Braunold 10:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article: "50 Song Challenge"[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of 50 Song Challenge. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Quinkysan 16:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC) Could you not at least have waited for someone to answer my question about what sort of "evidence" you needed to accept the article? It was the last thing on the talk page. I find it kind of ridiculous that moderator opinion counts for more than, well, fact. The Challenge exists and is relevant. I am not the creator, and I have nothing to gain from promoting it. Just because you haven't heard of it and maybe can't see how it could be significant doesn't give you the right to deprive people of the information about it. Quinkysan 16:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Date header[edit]

What do you think of this, for a header at the userpage, to replace the line of {{date-}} templates:

Today is Thursday, May 9, 2024, 13:35 (UTC/GMT).
There are 6,821,658 articles on the English Wikipedia.

Maybe I could even add information about what numbered day into the year it is, how many days left, etc. Could put it into a centered table with a border or something maybe. Thoughts? ArielGold 10:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, if you hate it, I'll , but I hope you'll be . Check your userpage. I didn't try to make it too different, mostly just moving the sections into small cells of different color, but keeping the overall layout. I also updated your RfA page, as Dragon's wasn't working anymore, so I put on Tango's which updates the half hour of every hour. Also, I moved the top navigation bar into a subpage so it is easier to add/remove/change icons/links. If you hate the colors (I just based it from your "Quotes" page, and from the footers) and want it all to be a blue, or a teal/blue, or some other color, that's not a problem to fix/change. Anyway, I love doing things like this, and it is great experience for me, but if you don't like it, you can revert it. ~*Sniffle*~ (Hee hee j/k, I just went to town when you said "have at it" lol) ArielGold 12:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • My user page looks great. Thanks. -- Jreferee 15:11, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, whew, I'm happy that you like it! What do you think of the signatures? They're easy to mix and match if you want to. I like the last one best, myself. (But who asked me? lol) ArielGold 15:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm thinking of using the default colors, and here is what comes out. The colors don't seem to be the same between the Jreferee and the "c". Any suggested improvements? -- Jreferee t/c 15:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's because the link colors are specified, for example, links you haven't visited are blue, and visited links are a purple. The custom sig markup allows us to over-ride those, thus allowing colors to appear no matter if they're visited or not. If you want the (t) and (c) (or t/c) to be in another color, I can give you the code for that if you want (and apologies if you know how to do that). ArielGold 15:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I think my signature is looking good (for now). If you think of any improvements or new items that would look good on my user page, please feel free just to add them. Thanks! -- Jreferee t/c 15:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ohhh an open invitation to go wild with creativity, lol. You may regret that! (Kidding, of course, but still... what are your favorite colors?) ArielGold 15:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. While I like the new sig, I'm sure going to have to get used to it, I'm used to identifying you immediately by your signature! lol. ArielGold 15:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • (outdent) Any colors for my user page are fine. I changed my signature (again). -- Jreferee t/c 15:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hee hee, there, now I recognize you! Did you want to have two copies of the picture of the day at the top here? ArielGold 16:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The two pictures at the top of this talk page provide one for each eye. -- Jreferee t/c 16:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That made me literally laugh out loud! "Stereo Vision at Jreferee's place!" ArielGold 16:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking Warning[edit]

Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content as you did here. Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. If it is a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!-- Jreferee T /C 18:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please check out my Cut & Pase method: On the Jews and their Lies & On the Jews and Their Lies. You notice the diference - "T" v. "t"? How else could I do what I've done? I could not MOVE the page because the SPACE was occuppied by a REDIRRECT. Can you be more specific as to what I could have done instead? --Ludvikus 18:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Butting in here: Here are the instructions for Moving over a redirect, and Fixing cut and paste moves, as well as How to fix cut and paste moves. Currently there are two replica articles. These are not desired as they create forks, so I would encourage you to list the pages at the Cut and paste move repair holding pen to allow an administrator to repair the history and remove the duplicate article (unless Jreferee wants to undertake that task). Hope that helps! ArielGold 18:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It does!--Mantanmoreland 18:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You don't just plop in to an article like this and peremptorily redirect its contents without discussion. This is not some stub on a detective novel. It has been painstakingly edited over a period of many months. I can't recall the capitalization issue ever being brought up in this sometimes hotly debated article. These moves need to be reinstated and the page protected until it has been discussed.--Mantanmoreland 18:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • SlimVirgin dealt with this same issue many moons ago. I dumped the matter onto SlimVirgin ... I posted a thread User_talk:SlimVirgin#Their_vs._their on Slim's talk page in hopes that Slim can address the prior decisions. -- Jreferee T/C 18:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • One complication, Jref, is that there now appears to be two identical Talk pages, even though the articles themselves have been returned. I'm unclear as to what needs to be done.--Mantanmoreland 19:01, 20 September 2007 (UTC) No, it's weirder. The article now has a small t in Their and the talk page of the same article has a capital T.--Mantanmoreland 19:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

db-move on Whitefish Mountain Resort[edit]

Hi Jreferee, I sort of explained what I was trying to do in my edit summary, but now see I didn't explain in the actual db-notice itself, and didn't give the name of the other article so you could check.

The current article at Whitefish Mountain Resort is just a cut and paste move that another editor made from Big Mountain Ski Resort. I just need Whitefish Mountain Resort gone so I can do a page move to the correct name. I don't need a merge of the histories, as there is no history to merge. That's OK, right? --barneca (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It also just now occurs to me I didn't mention a crucial piece of information; the move is due to the fact that the resort itself changed names a couple of months ago. --barneca (talk) 18:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(copy of your reply on my talk page) I can't delete the Whitefish Mountain Resort article because it deletes the page edit history with it. The GFDL requires acknowledgement of all contributors, and editors continue to hold copyright on their contributions unless they specifically give up this right. Hence it is required that edit histories be preserved for all major contributions until the normal copyright expires. See Help:Moving_a_page#Wikipedia-specific_help. Please use the move tab if there is consensus. Also, please read through Help:Moving a page. -- Jreferee T/C 18:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I know, that's what I'm trying to fix. The page I want deleted, Whitefish Mountain Resort, has no history, except for the act of pasting the contents of Big Mountain Ski Resort. If you look at Big Mountain Ski Resort, it's currently 100% identical, and [[Big Mountain Ski Resort is the article who's history needs preserving. Whitefish Mountain Resort is the article violating GFDL, and that's the whole reason I want to move the page, rather than allow the cut and past move to stay. --barneca (talk) 19:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --barneca (talk) 19:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've only Changed the "t" to a "T." But you are so fast - I suspect too fast to see the little point.

Best regards, dear Wikipedian! --Ludvikus 18:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!![edit]

Thank you for the clarification, next time, which tag should I use? Phgao 19:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, i just read my comment, of course, use which ever tag that fits it! Phgao 19:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

INVOLVE[edit]

Hi - why did you just delete my article - please can you advise where I went wrong - it is late and I have been rewriting the paragraphs that seemed to be a problem. INVOLVE is funded by the Department of Health and is a great source for people wanting to find out about research in to public health - it would be more helpful if you could adivse me of what to do before deleting an article - the other administrator was trying to help. Perhaps you could explain to me here.Maddcat007 20:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reasons the article was deleted are listed here. If you disagree with the deletions, please follow the steps to list a new deletion review. Thanks. -- Jreferee T/C 22:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The now-traditional RFA thank-spam[edit]

Deletion of N4G[edit]

Just wondering why the article about N4G, the first social gaming news site got deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TnS (talkcontribs) 21:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reasons the article was deleted are listed here. If you disagree with the deletions, please follow the steps to list a new deletion review. The topic was mention at A tech support director at EA told the N4G Web site that ..., but that did not say anything about the site being first social gaming news site. Thanks. -- Jreferee T/C 22:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of userspace offensive to you[edit]

I have removed most sandbox space that offended you. How many spaces am I allowed? I would like some scratch ones available because when I need one, I have already copied something and want a place to paste it. I have been the victim of several articles that were "immediately deleted" unfairly, I thought. I had no backup. There is very little warning on those things. If I were home and had little warning, I could copy it to my own hard disk since you are so pressed for space. I am currently on the road with a hospitalized in-law awaiting his demise. Could further deletion await his burial or do you need further space now? Student7 23:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]