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Please remember to type four dashes when you are done. This makes it better organized. Bibliomaniac15 01:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Top or bottom

I see some proposals being added to the top of the list and some to the bottom of the list. Perhaps some consistency is warranted? There needs to be an explicit notice at the top of the page saying where to add new proposals. --StuffOfInterest 13:11, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, newest always goes on the bottom. mwazzap 06:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They go Alphebeticly! Lego3400: The Sage of Time 15:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Questions

I'm interested in creating a proposal for a WikiProject devoted to volcanoes. I'm not sure if I can propose it because I'm what you Wikipedians call anons. Also, I'm not sure if there's another WikiProject out there that relates to volcanoes, so can I propose a Volcano WikiProject even though I'm an anonymous user? 74.225.117.237 17:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware of any rule prohibiting it though since the initial project page is supposed to be created as a sub page of your user page you might run into difficulty since you don't have a user page. Argash | talk | contribs 20:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I suggest making a username. íslenskur fellibylur #12 _(samtal) 23:15, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, if you're that involved in Wikipedia that you wish to create a WikiProject, why not make a username? --MPD01605 (T / C) 00:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ya - you can remain just as anonymous with a username as without (without, people'll see your IP, arguably making you less anonymous) so I'd recommend just creating an account. --Tim4christ17 06:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oops

I just made a Wikiproject Korea. But I didn't know that there was this project page? What should I do? Good friend100 18:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay. The purpose of this page is just to tell if there's interest. That's all. Smartyshoe 19:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Added a requesting projects section

I hope that it meets with the approval of the rest of you that I have added a section to the page regarding requesting projects. There are probably a number of fields which are not yet covered by an existing project which seem to call for the creation of one. If any of you believe that this is an inappropriate use of this page, however, please feel free to remove the section. Thank you. Badbilltucker 18:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject problem

Er.......

I was proposing to set up the WikiProject of Transport around Edinburgh and Glasgow but the proposal has already gone wrong. I was hoping to set this up for the management of 5 systems, 3 of which were rapid transit but now 've got editors thinking this will cover the Scottish rail network plus motorways, ferries and everything else associated. Perhaps i should have chosen a better title but am not sure what to do now, or if i should get rid of my proposal...

Simply south 18:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page re-structure

If I improve this page to the process structure similar to WP:Editor review, would anyone oppose to that? AQu01rius (User  Talk) 04:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One disadvantage of transcluding many subpages is that you need to watchlist more pages to follow what is going on. I personally think it is not necessary, as this page gets only 100 edits per week. Kusma (討論) 08:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wink Club

What is it attempting to accomplish? XYZ CrVo 02:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject proposal

Actually more a query than proposing one. Would i be allowed the propose another user's WikiProject but give the credit to them? Simply south 16:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which project in particular? Badbilltucker 17:53, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It shouldn't really matter, in any case; there's no special benefit to being the one to propose a project. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 17:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - True, but if the project already exists, then this might not be the best place for it. In that case, it should probably be added to the new projects section of the Wikipedia:Community Portal. Badbilltucker 18:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - See User talk:Badbilltucker for reply. Simply south 23:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If anybody cares

I craeted and piped Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland to WP:PWNB which has been acting as such wikiproject for many months. I did it so our Template:WikiProject Poland wouldn't look out of place.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk} 01:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Diverting the flow instead of trying to stop it

An idea, what if we just made a sub-page for task force proposals directly? I suspect that many people would be fine with a task force, but don't know what existing projects it should be under or how to go about doing it. We could also easily bump over very narrow ideas to the sub page and help clean the main proposal page up faster. -- Ned Scott 00:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great idea. There might be a few problems, particularly if people don't know which extant projects are out there, but I agree it would probably both increase interest and turnover in the proposals. John Carter 21:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

inactive projects

Is there any way inactive projects of similar scope can be absorbed or renamed into some of these projects proposed, so that work is not duplicated? Chris 08:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You'd have to first create the project to do the absorbing (if the new project is going to do so) and then propose that the old project be merged into the new active project. If the old, inactive project actually is inactive, there shouldn't be a problem. However, it is possible that the proposed merger might "activate" the older project if someone is opposed to the merger. John Carter 21:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you could. Alternatively, one could simply join the {{inactive}} project and get it going again, I don't know why, one couldn't then change the name to a broader topic if it made sense.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 02:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A new project

I don't know who monitors this page, but instead of proposing and creating a whole new project here I decided to start up a Frank Lloyd Wright project as a division of the National Register of Historic Places Project. It is slow getting going {part of the reason I posted here) but has begun as a cross project collaboration between NRHP, Architecture, and state projects. Is there somewhere around the Council to let people know about new projects that have started as divisions or task forces of other projects instead, perhaps linked from the proposals page so as not to cause overlap in new proposals, recommend reading, I don't know, was this even a good idea? Any thoughts? IvoShandor 11:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, I think projects that have task forces add the task forces to the pages themselves. it might be a good idea to have somewhere where new projects can "announce" themselves for inclusion in the Directory, though. By the way, I've added the task force immediately below the Registry project on the North American page. I hope that's acceptable. Feel free to add links to it on any other pages you feel appropriate. John Carter 14:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Improving WikiProject

Hi, all. I need some help in maintaining WikiProject Shannara. There are a few members, but they didn't seem to be doing anything anymore. I hope someone would be kind enough to go through the bother of checking it out. Thanks in advance! Cheers!! Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC) 14:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Buses

It's been suggested that I list WikiProject buses on here to ensure that people know about it. Is that a good idea? --NE2 18:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. I do however have a couple of potentially serious reservations. I'm not sure that individual bus routes reach the standard of notability for notability as per Wikipedia:Notability. Also, what sort of relationship do you think your new project would have with the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Rapid transit and its various related projects at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/History and society#Rapid Transit? If you do list it, I think that would probably be the best heading to list it under. John Carter 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some definitely fit the "notability" guideline; for example Bx1 (New York City bus) and B54 (New York City bus). Others are certainly not "notable" or "important" and can be covered in lists like List of bus routes in Manhattan. I started a discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject buses to determine where the line is. There are also articles about bus companies, models of buses, bus terminals, and other related topics. As for rapid transit, that's a type of rail transport. --NE2 19:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think we might change the heading on the directory to Public transit, and make the Rapid transit heading a subsection? But you might want to check to see if there are any other parties who would be interested. You might want to list it on the proposals page at WP:COUNCIL/P first, to see if there is enough interest from other parties to actually start the project in earnest. Not saying that the project would not be a good idea in any event, but it would need to have multiple contributors to really be worth the effort of setting up and maintaining the directly project-related material. John Carter 19:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That would work. I've mentioned it at several related projects, such as New York and London transport. --NE2 19:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question about a slow-starting wikiproject

A WikiProject:Veterinary Medicine was proposed over 4 months ago, and there hasn't been much interest generated in it. My concern is that newcomers won't know that the idea for this project even exists. I'm biased in this regard, but I feel that this project is an important one, and most of the articles in veterinary medicine need a great deal of work. So here are my questions:

Right now a temporary project page exists at User:Badbilltucker/WikiProject Veterniary Medicine. I would like to start working on it in anticipation of some interest. Would this be a problem? I don't think Badbilltucker is active in WP at this time, but I'll drop a line at his talk page too.
Would it be OK to put {{WikiProject Veterinary medicine}} on vet med articles, and have "wikiproject page" redirect to the temporary page? I hope this would generate more interest in the project, as a lot of the edits to these pages are by new editors or anons, and they probably wouldn't know to come here to look for a project proposal.
If it's not OK to link the template to a user space page, would it be OK to just create the project, despite the lack of interest so far? Feel free to shout this one down.
If I do put the new banner up, should I take down the Wikipedia:WikiProject Cats and Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs banners? They are less appropriate to the articles, although I can imagine some pages that should have both or all three, such as docking (dog) and neutering.

Thanks for your time, and please let me know if this should have been posted elsewhere. --Joelmills 22:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you posted in the right place. I know that we want to ensure that all articles are at least assessed for the Version 1.0 editorial team, and a lot of the articles this project covers won't necessarily be covered by any others. I added my name to the project, despite my relative lack of knowledge of the subject. I do have access to a lot of good libraries, however, so will try to be of help where I can. Regarding removing banners, I'm not sure that's such a good idea, unless you were a member of those projects, as it might create some controversy. You could certainly place any new Vet banner above them, though. John Carter 22:52, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to the two people have added their name since I posted this. I think what I will do is leave messages for people that have seemed to show interest in vet med articles and direct them to the proposals page. In the meantime I'll work on the temporary page, in anticipation of this project coming together. --Joelmills 20:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved it to projectspace to get the ball rolling. Wikiprojects often work in spurts and fits of activity, so don't be surprised if it's quiet. Always be bold, with wikiprojects especially :) --Quiddity 06:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Southern US Wikiproject

Why has Ned Scott removed all the templates and blanked the template, without the slightest discussion? How did the proposal suddenly, magically become an "inactive project", without consulting any of the interested parties? Chris 04:44, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at how we have WikiProjects not only for each state, but a US WikiProject, a US State WikiProject, and a regional US WikiProject, as well as a Southern notice board, there is no point to such a WikiProject. It was already noted on the WP proposal page that the project was a bad idea because it would overlap with many other projects. This is a categorization instead of work distribution. This caused several talk pages to be even more bloated with a banner of yet another ineffective project. It is not ok to just start WikiProjects and tag tons of articles when it's already pointed out that this can and should be done with existing projects. -- Ned Scott 04:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've now nominated the project for deletion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern United States. -- Ned Scott 05:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Noting" something, by a single person (you), does not make it gospel that it should or should not be done, more people weighed in with interest than your dissenting (and not overriding) voice. For you to blank the templates the same day you make the proposal is extreme bad faith on your part, and unwikilike. Without time to let your nomination for deletion to be discussed, _that_ is what is not okay. You overstepped on this one. Wikipedia is not an editor of one. Chris 05:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MARC Train Task Force

I've am seeking members for a MARC train task force. Anybody can join but I would like people who live (or work) in Maryland or West Virginia. I need some pictures and some infomation. Also anyone who knows about Amtak or CSX would be helpful. People who are good at creaing articles about train stations. Thanks --Plyhmrp 23:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)Plyhmrp[reply]

Bold cleanup

The sprawling list needed some maintenance. I have removed old and neglected requests from the page. Requests with no posting in over a month has been removed. I have generally left any request with comments or additional member listings posted within the past month. I left requests intact with sufficient members for the project to begin. The list may need further cleanup, but I thought starting with old and neglected requests was a good idea. Vassyana 02:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to have a go at cleaning up too, looks like it needs it again. I'll just delete things over two months to start with. I am a lemon 23:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

alphabetical order?

Hey, listing proposals in alphabetical order is very counterproductive (read: makes no sense at all). How will people know which are new? What about people who check the page from time to time, and are looking for recent additions? The newness is more salient than the title.... BETTER YET create a sortable wikitable with links to all projects listed, and columns for Title and Add Date. The wikitable itself can be located on a separate subpage of project, updated by bot, and transcluded to main page.... hmmm.... Ling.Nut 19:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you're volunteering to set it up, please feel free to do so. I personally would have no objections to seeing something of the type you described. John Carter 19:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Split the list?

This list is quite large. Perhaps a split would be in order? I was thinking of using general categories such as Humanities, Sciences, Culture, Wikipedia and Miscellaneous. (And yep, I'm willing to {{tl:sofixit}} myself if people are OK with the split.) Thoughts? Vassyana 17:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I like what you were doing, cutting out ones that hadn't had a response in months. I might split it between viable (actual encyclopedic topics, geographic, scientific, biological...) and fancruft (TV shows, videogames...). Chris 17:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My personal opinion (as expressed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject reform) is that the proposals belong on the talk page for one of the appropriate parent WikiProjects; maybe this page should contain links to all the proposed projects. Even better might be if the proposals were done on the talk page, and added to a category, and we could just link there from here.

-- TimNelson 05:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a nice thought, but many proposed WikiProjects have no appropriate parent project. How would those be handled? Vassyana 09:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We can make a miscellaneous section for anything that doesn't fit into the normal categories. OhanaUnited ^{Talk page} 11:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Biblical music?

Should I start a project under this title? It seems to fit under Christian Liturgy. Laleena^{talk to me contributions to Wikipedia} 18:52, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It'd help to know exactly what you mean by "Biblical music": music inspired by the Bible, music played during Biblical times, something else, or all of the above? John Carter 19:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Project Proposal Page

It is a huge mess. To aid in cleaning up:

1) Could we put them in order of date rather than alphabetical? Newest proposals up the top. Old ones would drift to the bottom where they can be easily and quickly deleted.

2) Can we suggest an approximate number of articles that would require a wikiproject rather than a task force? I was thinking maybe about twenty?

3) Can we also encourage people to delete their proposals once they reach a decision either to form a project or not? There are lots in the list that sound resolved.

4) Can we have a task force proposal page? There are so many things on that list that are definetly task forces, and two seperate pages would be so much easier to manage than one.

I have just been trying to tidy the whole list, deleting proposals inactive for over two months. In an hour, I got as far as the DaimlerChrysler proposal. Perhaps we need a task force to manage the page :-P I am a lemon 00:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- This would become a pain to search if it were not alpha ordered, IMO. --Doug. 17:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

second objection to chrono listing-people look them up in alphabetical order. Chris 21:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Linkin Park

Was this project approved? In my opinion it is much too small and topic is too small to make a WikiProject on. -Sox 207 19:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, there is no "approval" for any project to receive. The page exists as a way editors can indicate whether they would be willing to work with a project, with the hope that potential project creators do not "jump the gun" and create a project which ultimately is either deleted quickly for lack of membership or quickly becomes dormant. There is no obligation to list a project here, or in fact any sort of obligatory process a proposed project must go through. John Carter 14:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Star Ocean: Till The End of Time

I believe that there should be a Star Ocean: Till the End of Time Wikiproject because it is a good game; did I say good?... I meant GREAT game. If a wikiproject is created, i would be the first to join!. castlevaniamaster1 11:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Archive period

Please note that based on a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council the time for archiving project proposals which haven't reached the recommended size for creating a project has been reduced from 6 months to 4. This change has been reflected in the information at the top of the Proposals page.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 22:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving in general

It would be good if proposals were set up as on XfD pages and archived the same way, that way links to old proposals wouldn't simply lead to the this page with no further information.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 15:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To archive, or delete

I opened the revision of the page from Aug 11, and the following proposals are at least that old. I only had time to compare up to the letter M, inclusively. Although I don't know if any of these proposals have enough interested editors to approve. I'll work on it some more tomorrow, if I'm doing this the right way. Can I be Frank? ^{(Talk to me!)} 06:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(list removed)

True. However, some of them have enough support to become active projects, and it's just a matter of in some cases getting a response about setting up as a task force, trying to get banners changed, etc. Personally, I would say that if any proposal has at least five members, it be allowed to stay on the page, until it's decided exactly how they are ultimately handled. I know personally that some of those listed above are currently being considered for task forces, etc., and I'm just waiting for responses. John Carter 15:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

After giving the proposals of interest a scan-through, I've come up with a crude list of recommendations:

more than 5 expressions of interest

   * 1.39 Former Featured Articles WikiProject (start it?)
   * 1.68 M*A*S*H (start it?)
   * 1.96 Pixar (more discussion needed?)
   * 1.108 Revolutions of 1848 (start it, or WP European History?)
   * 1.110 Robotics (start it?)

recommend task force (and then archive?)

   * 1.10 Austrian Economics
   * 1.11 Autism
   * 1.17 Cellos
   * 1.21 Costa Rica (WP Central America?)
   * 1.25 Daft Punk
   * 1.28 Desperate Housewives (WP Television?)
   * 1.32 Edgar Allan Poe
   * 1.40 Frisians
   * 1.41 Global Warming
   * 1.43 Guitar Tunings
   * 1.49 House, M.D. (WP Television?)
   * 1.54 Intelligence Agencies (funnel to WP Intelligence Agency?)
   * 1.55 Inter-religious content (funnel to WP Religion?)
   * 1.65 Law & Order (WP Television?)
   * 1.74 Milton Keynes (WP England?)
   * 1.77 Mobile Phones (WP Cellular Devices?)
   * 1.86 Oasis (band)
   * 1.99 Pop music (WP Music?)
   * 1.115 Skateboarding
   * 1.118 Steely Dan (WP Music?)
   * 1.133 WikiProject 1990s (WP Decades?)

archive

   * 1.8 Athens (archive?)
   * 1.13 Beanie Babies
   * 1.16 Bowling (archive?)
   * 1.36 Event venues
   * 1.44 Gymnastics
   * 1.47 Hominids
   * 1.52 Indiana Jones
   * 1.64 Latrobe Valley
   * 1.66 Lead Paragraph Cleanups (already started?)
   * 1.69 Madagascar (country)
   * 1.71 Malware
   * 1.85 Newspapers
   * 1.95 Pittsburgh Pirates
   * 1.102 Project Management
   * 1.106 Religious leaders (already started?)
   * 1.109 Roads in New York City
   * 1.120 That's So Raven
   * 1.121 Thrash Metal
   * 1.125 Trucks (already started, WP Transport?)
   * 1.130 Winnipeg Blue Bombers
   * 1.131 Wizard Rock
   * 1.132 World Heritage Sites (already started?)
   * 2.5 Global Perspectives Task force

If I added a parenthetical commentary, that means I looked at the proposal twice: once when I grouped them by number of interested people, and a second time when I examined those proposals with 4-12 interested people. How bold should I be in moved these things around? Can I be Frank? ^{(Talk to me!)} 07:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frisians Project

Anyone willing to volunteer on the Frisian Project, please vote for it on the main page! -The Bold Guy- (talk) 18:16, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Central Pennsylvania

I'd like to start a Wikiproject for Central Pennsylvania, which includes the cities of Altoona, Pennsylvania, State College, Pennsylvania, Johnstown, Pennsylvania, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Scranton, Pennsylvania, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, and other cities and communities in the central Pennsylvania region. Although there are individual articles about these cities, and in some cases articles about neighborhoods and buildings in these cities, I strongly believe that a Central Pennsylvania wikiproject that covers most of what's between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia would be very useful for those who want to learn about Pennsylvania's interior. Articles such as those about Weis Markets and Sheetz, which are based in central Pennsylvania, would also be covered under the Wikiproject. MVillani1985 (talk) 04:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Automatic time and date stamp

Is there any way to make this article have the time and date and messages added automatically placed? It would make it a bit easier to know when a proposal has been here for four months, particularly as several people forget to put the time and date on their proposals. John Carter (talk) 20:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How long should proposals stay here?

I made two proposals, one for a project on gerontology, one for a project on transpersonal studies, which seem to have met with zero interest. Can I, as the author of these proposals, suggest that it it is OK now to detete them? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, they stay for four months before being archived, so that we can give them enough time to be seen. I'm not sure if you've left messages on any relevant talk pages, or with any relevant related WikiProjects, but if you haven't you might want to do so, to let more people know that the proposals are here. Otherwise, if you really did want to, you could probably remove them at any time. John Carter (talk) 20:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject "Weird Al" Yankovic

Can anyone review this project just made on 2007-12-31 by Dantheu2man? The WikiProject banner associated with it was typed inline and not as a template, resulting in the inclusion of the talk page for Talk:"Weird Al" Yankovic in Category:WikiProject banners. I didn't see anything that suggests that Dantheu2man talked to anyone before creating this project all by himself. --Geopgeop (T) 11:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I'm not sure that being listed here is officially required. Lord knows lots of projects get created the way this one did, although many don't survive very long. I'll see what I can do. John Carter (talk) 18:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The category also includes the other band members' talk pages as well right now. It should be removed from them as well. --Geopgeop (T) 15:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. John Carter (talk) 18:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia: Wikiproject Life on Mars

I was looking in the list of projects why has this dissapered? Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) 21:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because the project has now been created - removal diff - and therefore a proposal that it be created isn't needed. Foxhill (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]