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Articles on Quackademic Medicine

Below are articles articles, mostly medical but some in the sciences, that promote ideas or POV's that might endanger human life. Feel free to add your own, but I'm watching and cleaning up these articles. Please sign if you add something.

anyone who wants to work on this complex of article, I'll be glad to help. Time we got to the pseudo-psychology. DGG (talk) 21:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
try Eisner in The death of psychotherapy, Chapter 3 "Cathartic Therapies:From Primal to est". A little out of date but .... Fainites barley 22:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Medical articles

Below are articles that I believe, along with any trusted science and medicine editors who may wish to contribute, meet the simple test of being well-written, do not give undue weight to fringe theories, and are either WP:GA or WP:FA:

Salacious talk of eye-candy on my page is not permitted..

Ye gods man, I am a pillar of the community and cannot be seen to engage in salacious talk of eye-candy, I mean really there are much better candidates than her....(cold shower, cough splutter...bbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr).....if you like intellectual sci-fi you must have seen this though --> The Lost Room. highly recommended. :) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 04:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The BOLD and the beautiful

Congratulations on boldly extirpating a trivia section from multiple sclerosis.[2] Sometimes only radical action will achieve the desired result! JFW | T@lk 06:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. We've got to do that elsewhere. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 06:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Did you notice that Guido is back? OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 21:24, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Heroic medicine? MastCell Talk 22:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Kind of like CAM?? OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm

Orangemarlin...I keep seeing your name pop up in different places, and what I've learned from seeing your contributions is that you are definitely here as a content builder, content protector, article starter, and article protector. You seem to have a knack for protecting Wikipedia from fringists, quacks, and their ilk. At the same time, I can clearly remember being very terse with you in the past. Allow me to explain myself. I'm an admin. (Deserved or not is irrelevant at the moment :-) I'm not, by any stretch, an article person. I'm a meta-person. My niche is, as I see it anyway, is as a "content defender", meaning I defend, to the end, those particular editors that decide to keep Wikipedia clean from fringists, etc. Where did I get a negative opinion of you? I can't find it in diffs, but I remember it. But I'd like switch. I'd like to be an admin-defender for you (not that you need it necessarily, but it surely wouldn't hurt). All this rambling to say, is that I'd like to put water under the bridge of wherever you and I crossed paths where we've given each other bad impresssions (as I'm sure my own ill will feelings towards you are certainly mutual)... I've had a negative opinion of you, I freely admit it, and I'm not sure where it came from, but I'd like it to go away. I firmly believe that article builders/defenders are the core of Wikipedia, and I firmly believe that you are one of those core article building/protecting editors. I'm not one of those myself, but with block/delete/protect buttons, however the hell I earned them and by whatever fluke, I can at least help in my own small way. Are you willing to help me reconcile? (Again, I know that I have a negative opinion, but I can't find out the roots of it. I'm willing to let bygones be bygones. Help me out?) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DUDE!!!!! You're now giving me work. I've got to find one of those 15,000 edits where you and I might have battled. Or I could take the easy way out, and say, "sure, I really appreciate it." I'm going to be lazy.  :) Bygones are definitely bygones. Hell, I'm actually quite loyal to User:B, whom I once considered a Creationist admin, and now, well I still think he's a Creationist admin, but he's an honorable one. He also hates racism as much as I do, so he gets like 47.212 points out of a possible 50 for being a good guy. Anyways, honestly I don't remember if we battled, but I do think of myself as builder of this project. I don't like the political crapola, and stay out of it mostly. I just prefer to focus on building articles into good shape, keep the anti-science fringe element under control (but am willing to listen once to one argument from them--the tendentious crap doesn't make me happy). Anyways, thanks. OK, to be honest, I'm not that lazy, and I'm going to dig this up.OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 22:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. I really want to improve my "image" of you. I honestly don't remember what it was, but I "vaguely" remember telling you that you were "always sarcastic" or some such. Let me know what you find. Either way, I'll be glad to move along and help you "protect/build" this insane website. Ask Malleus if you need my credentials for protecting article builders. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am always sarcastic. LOL. OK, I'm not getting what you want to do. Mentor me? Not going to work so well. It's probably my arrogant, narcissistic self image which will not allow that. Protect me? I'm sorry but that might be hard work. It's kind of a 24/7 responsibility. Learn from me? I make a poor teacher. So????? I'm confoozled. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 22:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've been known to be rather sarcastic myself. No, I have no intentions of mentoring you. that would be rather presumptuous, seeing as how you've been here longer than me. Protect you? No, not necessarily. I'm merely suggestion that you (and I) bury the hatchet (wherever it is). I have a fondness for article builders, because I'm not one, and freely admit it. You are one. And you defend articles. I'm not trying to "learn from you" either, as you and I, both being rather bullheaded, would probably disengage as soon as one or the other of us tried to tell the other what to do. I'm simply trying to clear my own perceptions of you, which, right or wrong, have bgeen negative. (probably wrong). Anywho, all that to say, best of luck to you in your editing. You are now on my watchlist (obviously), and I'll watch for your article contribs from now on to "protect" you from fringists. Hope you don't mind :-) If you find the diffs where you and I butted heads, let me know! I am certain they exist, but I can't find them either....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds perfect. Regarding the diffs, I gave up. I had no clue when to search to narrow the number of diffs. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 23:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As much as it's going to bug me, I can't find the diffs either, although I know they exist. Either way, I'm glad you agree to call them bygones. Keep up the good work (and by "work", I of course mean article building/protecting/defending). Let me know if you need any admin assistance from this point forward. Cheers, (which means I'm a heavy drinker :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<outdent>All that to say, are there other "article builders" that you know of that could use admin assistance? I meant that to say, for whatever reason, your name crossed my mind, as someone that could perhaps use an additional "eye". Any others that I can approach? I'm serous in my intentions. If you look at my last thousand contribs, they are all talkpages/metapages/wikipages. I'm not an article builder. Therefore, I have an enormous respect for those that are article builders/starters/defenders. Names? (and, if you're watching this, and are an "ally" of Om's), let me know! I'll happ8ily defend you as well. Again, ask Malleus. My mission on Wikipedia is to defend article writers/builders/defenders. Let me know where I can assist. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tor node to block

Orangemarlin, I've just reverted an insult on this page that originated from a Tor nde. You might want to block the IP. DurovaCharge! 00:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ummmm. I'll have to ask someone else to do it. The only tools I have are Twinkle, and someone tried to take those away yesterday.  :) OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per your request here, I took care of it for you ;).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 00:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!!!! OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:38, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Commies???? &#0149;Jim62sch&#0149;dissera! 00:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I am a socialist. Does that count? OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like the 3rd time in recent history that someone thought you were an admin....⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 01:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, my bad... (da, comrade) DurovaCharge! 02:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's all because he hides under every bed. &#0149;Jim62sch&#0149;dissera! 02:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Pulling out DVD of Reds (film). OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 02:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...

...for the vandalism revert on my user page. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 00:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Found this[3] lying around

Looks like it might be someone's old sock...one of your fans it seems (I know that really narrows it down :P)... --Aunt Entropy (talk) 01:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last revert

To explain that - I wrongfully removed a sourced section of Guettarda's edit, and had replaced it - the bit about "While similar to some of her beliefs..." Also, I misread the source, the "false dilemma" stated by Picard was not between science and religion, but between intelligent design and evolution. Parsing words, maybe, but important to get right. FCYTravis (talk) 07:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. This debate is heated enough, and we don't need to get it over the boiling point. We all agree on the big picture, and in cases like Robert J. Marks II, it's pretty clear that a person is an out-and-out ID proponent. I just think we need to be extremely careful at the margins - with people like Picard - not to go overboard in damning them with the DI brush where the situation is far murkier and there's no certainty that they're actually in favor of the DI/ID agenda. FCYTravis (talk) 07:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heads-up on Robert J. Marks II

Talk:Robert J. Marks II#Major restructure of Baylor Engineering/Computer Science website makes some sense of, but in no way justifies, ThomHImself's recent edit-war on Robert J. Marks II. He was edit-warring over a bunch of easily replacable broken links. HrafnTalkStalk 09:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Organised attempt to change POV of AIDS articles

Thought you might like to be made aware of this discussion on the "AIDS Myth Exposed" forum. Trezatium (talk) 11:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User "Paul King" ("PaulKing (Mxxx Hxxxx) <aimulti_at_aimultimedia.com> wrote..." [misc.mailarchive.ca/health.aids/2005-05/0685.html]) from the "aidsmythexposed" msn group linked by Trezatium writes that at Wikipedia he has "spent a vast amount of time learning the inner workings and establishing credibility as an editor. I cannot discuss more here as this is an open forum but if there are four or five people willing to devote a reasonable amount of time over four or five months I can teach them how to make a radical change to Wikipedia on 'AIDS' and related topics." "Paul King" is the pseudonym of a long-time AIDS denialist activist and head of the "Dissident Action Group" (DAG) in Los Angeles. I have taken up this matter with arbitration, as even the non-AIDS edits of this agenda editor are problematic. RetroS1mone (talk) 17:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A good read

Check this guy out - Charlie Huston - the Joe Pitt series is vampires as 1940s noir detective novel. Cool. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring on AIDS denialism

A user has brought up this case at WP:ANI. He would like to know why you are reverting his edits. You claim The New York Observer is not a reliable source, but he begs to differ. Would you mind shedding some light on this situation? weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 09:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly because it's a rag.&#0149;Jim62sch&#0149;dissera! 09:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a newspaper is not a reliable source. New York Times might be acceptable. This rag. Nope.OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I beg your pardon

...for my uncivilty at this edit [4]. I did not see the edit summary uncivil as I wrote it, but the feedback I received at ANI made me change my mind. Excuse me, sir. Randroide (talk) 09:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What's the procedure?

You gave someone a final warning here. I subsequently reverted the same behavior here. I'm not sure whether to leave another warning or not. What do you think? Is there a warning that says "We really mean it this time"?16:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)Ferrylodge (talk)[reply]

If another editor has placed a final warning, and there is further clear vandalism, you should then post to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Numerous admins watch the posts, and then place escalating blocks. That's why it's important to place warnings on the page of anonymous vandals. I've seen vandals who have made 20 different edits, and no one placed the final warning. The next edit after the final warning is blockable. I've seen vandals who vandalize after blocks too. I think blocks serve as final warnings, but that's up to the admin. I usually place a final warning even if I see a block, then post to ANI/Vandalism. I hope this helps. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 16:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just looked over their vandalism. You don't even have to post to the User talk, just do an IPvandal posting to ANI/Vandalism, and reference "vandalized after final warning." No diffs are necessary. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 16:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's helpful, thanks. I posted at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalismFerrylodge (talk) 17:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article for your interest

See Super AIDS Raul654 (talk) 02:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, that's nice. Save for the fact that a strain is hardly a clade. And I can't find any PubMed references to "super aids" or "super HIV". And the references are hardly reliable. Can I delete? OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 06:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, you didn't know? MRSA is the new "Super AIDS". Antelantalk 06:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AIDS denialism categories

This is now being discussed at Category_talk:AIDS_reappraisal --Sapphic (talk) 18:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Safari

Hey, can you look again at my userpage with Safari, or whatever browser you use, and let me know if it looks better? I substituted the version that User:Supertheman had fixed up for me. MastCell Talk 19:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. Now I can read it!!!! BTW, you are an Arrested Development fan? Their family is more dysfunctional than Wikipedia.  :) OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 19:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How can you not be a fan of the only TV show to exploit the comic possibilities of graft vs. host disease? I still can't believe it was cancelled while According to Jim and Two and a Half Men live on. That alone is proof of the nonexistence of a just God. MastCell Talk 21:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My young padawan, life is just unfair. Star Trek was cancelled when I was a teenager. I have yet to recover. BTW, I am a fan of Two and Half Men. Charlie Sheen rocks. If you knew anything about me, you'd know why. LOL. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 23:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OMG are you Martin Sheen? :) There's really no comparison - Star Trek lives on in the form of innumerable spin-offs (though I guess that's easy for me to say since I'm not really a fan). Though there has been rumor of an Arrested Development movie... MastCell Talk 15:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Al Lo Davar

My pleasure . And now you know forever, or at least until you forget, which is what happens to me every other week :} -- Avi (talk) 22:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Every day I learn something in life, and every day I forget something else. I net out to 0. Thanks.OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 22:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Tinkle help

(Yes, you really did ask for help with your Tinkle. :-P)

'Tis done - empty and bypass your cache, and you should see a tab named 'arv' up top. Use is self-explanatory, but there's info here if you need it. Enjoy! :-) - KrakatoaKatie 02:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks KK!!! Of course, now that you've done it, I haven't had one anonymous vandal to report.  :( OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 06:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Paul Nobuo Tatsuguchi edit

I appreciate your edit [5] and help with this article. I hope to nominate for featured consideration soon and unsolicited edits such as yours truly is why the collaborative aspect of Wikipedia can sometimes be one of the most enjoyable aspects of this project. Thanks again. Cla68 (talk) 15:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting article. I was told about him by a fellow physician who attended Loma Linda, and I was wondering if he had an article on Wikipedia. Well done. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 17:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something you might find amusing

I know I'm breaking our mutual vow of silence, but considering our past history, I thought you might this slip-up somewhat funny: [6]. Hope things are going well on your end. I'll go back to politely ignoring you now. :) Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is Wafulz a sock of OM? Kidding of course. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 20:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, when I do a sock, I'm doing it right. I'm creating one with super-admin powers. Next is a Bureaucrat sock of mine. Then, Jimbo himself is going to be a sock. I rule the world!!!!!! Oh, sorry, I got ahead of myself. Hersfold, we buried the hatchet remember? But, it was funny. And you deserved this why? OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 20:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Check my block log sometime. Raymond Arritt (talk) 20:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I see that you've blocked about 100 people. Am I missing something? OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 20:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think he meant his own block log, which consists of him blocking, and quickly unblocking himself. Although I still don't get the joke myself....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. Subtle humor. There might be a psychological condition when you try to exert power over oneself. LOL. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 20:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You mean like an anti-narcissism? Self-flagellation? Who knew! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it'll be out in DSM V, just like Internet Dependence Disorder...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What about a Wikipedia-dependence disorder? OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 21:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't WP depend on those with WP-DD, hence exemplifying a sort of corporate enabling of the dependency, but without the profit motive? There's a sociology thesis in here for somebody.LeadSongDog (talk) 22:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure how familiar you are with Monty Python, but Eric Idle does a very nice impersonation of a sniffy sociologist: that's how I would see the thesis going. &#0149;Jim62sch&#0149;dissera! 22:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

← I hate to play the straightman here, but the way the block window interface is set up, it's fairly easy to open a window which blocks your own account rather than the vandal you're aiming to smite. It has even happened to some of our best and brightest admins. MastCell Talk 22:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Florida Marlins

You're a fan of the fish? No...fuckin...way! Man, I was there when Hough dazzled with the knuckler on opening day. I even have a ball autographed by all 9 of the opening day starters. I never thought I would live to see another fan who didn't live in Florida. So pumped the owners decided to pick HanRam to build the future around. Baegis (talk) 00:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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