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Straw poll for selecting photos of Australia at the 2008 Summer Olympics

Photos were taken at Adelaide Olympic welcome home parade, September 18, 2008.

They were all very ladylike and gentlemanly. Very dignified and genial.

Great photos. Well done on getting them all and of such quality! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Voting section

Simply vote and comment as follows below the individual sections.

Comment (numbering pictures from 1, 2, 3 etc, left to right) and ~~~~

Poll: Tessa Parkinson

No:2 - I like the light dark combination more but would crop slightly (if possible) to lose more of the top of head at the bottom.--VS ^talk 08:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 1. appropriately cropped (if anyone can be bothered) -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2. unless we get a really good crop on 1. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No 1. is of better quality, although No. 2 is the better picture. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Y not? 04:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2. Good Balance of shadow and light —Preceding unsigned comment added by PurpleView (talk • contribs) 06:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Lisa Oldenhof

No:3 In mid signature - where Lisa is probably writing "To Yellow Monkey - you are my Gitarzan"--VS ^talk 08:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2 -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 3., lighting is definitely best there (though unfortuneately none of them are that great....). Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with Giggy. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like a dude. They're equally bad. -- Y not? 04:23, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All are bad too fat face sorry for being blunt may be camera gone too close PurpleView (talk) 07:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Amber Halliday

No 2 for Amber IMHO--VS ^talk 08:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2 -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2. No. 3 would be good if it wasn't so blurry, though. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Number 3 is the best picture except the quality isn't as good as the others. It would be best if it was a "frame" instead of a "thumb". Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. I resized to fix the blurry. -- Y not? 04:24, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. Put more light in this photo and it worth putting in album. Looks very old in all other photos PurpleView (talk) 07:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Claire Tallent

No: 1 for Claire - Great photographic Tallent here!--VS ^talk 09:00, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 1 again cropped if poss -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 works well even without a crop. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 1 or 3. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2 is the most flattering image of her. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Y not? 04:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 Very pretty side pose though require to put additional light. All other is having glare PurpleView (talk) 07:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Jacqueline Lawrence (canoer)

No: 1 for moi.--VS ^talk 09:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2. She isn't looking down so much, shame the one without the sunnies looks a little blurry. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:03, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Either 2 or 3, ideally 3 if we can get a decent crop. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 2. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 is good, 3 is better. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Y not? 04:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3 Nice smiling 3/4 shot of pretty face. You might want to add bit more light. General rule photo with sunglasses are not good for memorabilia content PurpleView (talk) 07:09, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Brenton Rickard

I'd say No:1 but I assume you had to crop from a couple of people? Anyway I suggest No:3 especially if you are able to lighten up a little bit more.--VS ^talk 09:03, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 3 with a tight crop around the head. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 1. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3 is the best. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 -- Y not? 04:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 is great smiling photo just remove glare. PurpleView (talk) 07:12, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Elise Rechichi

No: 4 - - a nice natural look at camera and with the medal is good.--VS ^talk 09:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 4 (with a crop, again) -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
4. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 4. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
4. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3 -- Y not? 04:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Grant Schubert

No: 1 - background also adds interest to the photograph.--VS ^talk 09:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Probably No. 3, although unfortunately the hat in No. 2 obscures part of his face, otherwise I would choose that. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Someone good with photoshop could remove the hat in 2, but if not, then I'd say 3. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 or 3. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 or 2. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2, and un-crop it to reveal the hat-person. -- Y not? 04:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pulling a leg? YellowMonkey (choose Australia's next top model) 05:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Lyndsie Fogarty

No. 1. although the reflection off the forehead is a little off-putting -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:10, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I like 3 again - interesting background also and the medal in full view.--VS ^talk 09:10, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I also like no. 1. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All three are good, but the third one is the best IMO. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3 -- Y not? 04:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 Looks pretty. glare cann be taken care of PurpleView (talk) 07:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Andrew Schacht

No. 3. Although he is at more of an angle, less shadow is on his face
No 3 for me also.--VS ^talk 09:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Prefer 1, myself. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3 -- Y not? 04:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: William Henzell

No. 1. Yay, no sunnies. Can we crop out the thumb? -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No 1 for me also - so Olympians do have eyes (who'd a known?) perhaps a crop to lose the orange on the right and then part of the thumb would go too?--VS ^talk 09:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1, and keep the thumb! Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 I guess, but it's kinda bright. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
4 -- Y not? 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 Good for toothpaste advert PurpleView (talk) 07:19, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Scott Brennan

No. 2. No sunnies on, and a better look at his face, even with the slight shadow. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No 2 - Agree with Matt.--VS ^talk 09:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2, per Matt. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Chris Morgan (rower)

No. 1. probably for me. No. 2. has a touch too much glare, I think. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No 1 for me also (I can almost hear the girls swooning for this guy already).--VS ^talk 09:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 is awesome. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 Looks greate modeling photo PurpleView (talk) 07:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Shane Kelly

No. 1. Looking directly at the camera. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree 2 thumbs up for me on no. 1 --VS ^talk 09:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 is good, 1 is better. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 -- Y not? 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 Has better clarity of facial features with good light exposure PurpleView (talk) 07:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: James McRae

No 1 -shadows are a bit complex but it is a nice close up.--VS ^talk 09:16, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 3. Sits in the centre of the frame. Lighting looks better. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1, agree with Steve. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1, agree with Steve and Giggy. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 3 makes him look the most human. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3 -- Y not? 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
123 all are good —Preceding unsigned comment added by PurpleView (talk • contribs) 07:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Megan Jones

No 6 for Megan please.--VS ^talk 09:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 4. A nice smile and looking at the camera. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
4, with crop. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
4. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
4. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
6 -- Y not? 04:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All girls in this squard seems to be bit heavy may be photographic problem or real!!! PurpleView (talk) 07:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: David Dennis

A difficult one - but I think number 2 given no sunglasses. --VS ^talk 09:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 3. for me -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I like 3 also. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Y not? 04:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 Looks very stylish PurpleView (talk) 07:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Kate Gynther

No 2 for Kate - nice pic.--VS ^talk 09:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 3. A nice, natural photo. I will even overlook the sunnies for it. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2, I prefer. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3, the 2nd one makes her look bad. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Y not? 04:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mia Santoromito

No 1 for Me (whoops sorry I mean Mia) - nice balance of light and dark.--VS ^talk 09:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 1. for Me Mia as well. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 for me.... Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Numero Uno. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Tracey Mosley

Another hard one - I think no. 1 for me.--VS ^talk 09:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 1. Looking up and smiling. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 it is. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
4 -- Y not? 04:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Alicia McCormack

No 1 also for this last one I think.--VS ^talk 09:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. 1 I agree. No. 2. looks a touch out of focus. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 09:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. Giggy (talk) 00:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say 1. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm thinking 1. Khoikhoi 03:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1 -- Y not? 04:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other stuff

Citation density

In case you missed the note on my talk page, I've made the list you requested. Feel free to move it to your userspace if you like. Dr pda (talk) 10:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Banana time

YellowMonkey indeed. So, maybe you're not Lou Reed but a YellowMonkey needs a yellow banana, and it cannot be just any old banana off any old bunch. It has to be this one. --IvoShandor (talk) 07:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou indeed. Good to see you back again. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Olympic parade

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, I don't work in town, and the travel time required to "pop into town" puts a large hole in the working day. Sorry. Good luck! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

South Melbourne cricketers

I love the new name. Your new category is pretty easy to fill with quality cricketers. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 01:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is, and the name is more convenient. A lot of people have trouble spelling the old one for some reason. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The enthusiasm is returning and work pressure has eased for a while and last night I almost reached for a book from my library to start again on George Giffen. I might give that a break for a while and concentrate on the Invincibles, which is very close now. If we can get Keith Miller over the line (I think it still needs a good trim), then probably another South Melbourne Test captain and Geelong resident, Lindsay Hassett would be a good selection. Your thoughts? -- Mattinbgn\^talk 08:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to trim the military and early years. With the Millerisms it's a bit hard to know which are more important incidents. Those have daughter articles already. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's the reason I think they could do with a trim; the daughter articles are so comprehensive. Dweller is doing a wonderful copy-editing job, I might let him finish/comment before I start. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 09:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Olympics Photos

Hi, I sent you an email containing a link to the rest of them.

Also, I must be slow or something, because I have just now put two and two together between this and your previous username! Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 12:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]

In one of the photos 0827, not great, but the girlon teh left is Cate Campbell, 0830, teh blonde girl is Meagen Nay, 0832 the blonde head ont eh left is Tarnee White which works. The last one definitely works. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

0834 is a bit cut-off but that's Natalie Cook who won beach volleybal in 2000. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The bald gut in 0795 is Mathew Helm who won silver in Athens. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Pakpassion

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Pakpassion. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Suntag ☼ 17:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

Great work finding the photos. The ones of Herb and the Big Ship in particular are great! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 08:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They weren't that difficult to find. You'll note that a camera is much more accessible than I scanner so I took photos of the book which makes the geometry a bit warped. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Laurie Nash photo

Hmm, according to the photo you added, Nash appears to have a very odd bowling action. --Roisterer (talk) 12:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I uploaded at commons on the same name and commons takes precedence. So I had to resnap it. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great photo of Nash. It is a long term strategy to build Nash up to FA/GA status so I was wondering where to grab another picture or two of him. There is a biography of Nash that I am trying to track down which may contain other treasures. --Roisterer (talk) 01:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Miller

Great to have a pic of him bowling. But the text says he missed the Second Test? --Dweller (talk) 13:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

3rd. Fixed. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Email

You have one more. Cau lde 15:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've prepared it for you on pieces of paper and will email the photos to you. Hopefully my writing is readable. Outline from 938 AD until now. My USB has fallen off my cord and hopefully my USB is at home and not on this morning's bus. But the originals are still in the camera, although some stuff on my USB is not on my home hard drive. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, we're in luck, the USB fell off the cord when I pulled the cord out of my bag. I just stood up to phone home to see if it was there and the USB fell at my feet. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's great! Fantastic actually. That must have taken a very long time, especially all those notes. I really appreciate it. We just did Battle of Dien Bien Phu actually and we're focusing around that aspect mainly (for the whole course); the US involvement, the French pullout, the Communist interests. No doubt though, those other comments you made will allow me to write at least something about Vietnam's and its chequered history. Thank you again. Cau lde 16:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually only a couple of hours. Just waiting for you to write lots of FAs then....YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 06:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey yourself

Thanks. I am not doing a whole lot around here, but I am about. --IvoShandor (talk) 07:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And I see you got my banana. :-)--IvoShandor (talk) 07:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Benson

Thanks for the note - I'll keep an eye on it. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:41, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. I recently cleaned out my watchlist - that's been re-added. Guess I should do Brett Lee and, especially, Stuart Clark too. --Dweller (talk) 09:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re: MH-A-class

Yes, I have. Supports like these worry me, especially when they're from editors with plenty of FAC experience. This article is nowhere near A-Class (no context, the cites need looking at very carefully then formatting). I was going to wait until the next coordinator term starts before trying to tackle it. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 07:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thank you

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Congrats!

Congratulations on your election as Coordinator of the Military history Wikiproject. In honor of your achievement, I present you with these stars. I wish you luck in the coming term. -- TomStar81 (Talk) 01:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah all the best. I've decided to step aside. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Lyle123

Hello. Thanks for handling the latest socks. But apparently the guy does not get tired. Can you checkuser the following accounts and IPs? All IPs are still .au so has to be the same guy (and anyway the pattern is crystal clear). You can block all of freakin' Australia for all I care... Pascal.Tesson (talk) 03:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

59.101.102.123 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
121.44.24.155 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
121.44.5.76 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
122.109.66.157 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
114.72.138.156 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
114.72.128.38 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
114.72.176.210 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
115.129.9.166 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
AliceinWonderlandfilm2009 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
KND2009 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
RoadBikersFilm2009 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Emndmovie4444 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Badfilm2009 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Ah, teh pitfalls of volunteering for a few CUs. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But you signed up to be a CU, right? :-)

In any case, do you mind if I bring these directly to you rather than go through RFCU? It's (usually) faster and hopefully more effective. I used to do this with Dmcdevit: I'd bring him the new accounts, he'd impose range-blocks and give me a list of sock accounts so that I could do the cleanup. But Dmcdevit seems to be AWOL. Any idea what happened? Pascal.Tesson (talk) 22:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. On Wikipedia, there's a difference between signing up for some job and actually doing it. I think Dmc has taken a rest for RL reasons and IIRC he did express some disapproval of the wikipedia culture recently. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I rooted out some more. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:06, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wait...

Since when did you change your name too? bibliomaniac 1 5 05:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A few weeks ago. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone's changing their names! How will I keep up?! bibliomaniac 1 5 01:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re: Stepping aside

Thank you for letting us know so promptly that you have reached what must have been a difficult decision. I must say though that 40 votes is still a very sizeable number and I would urge you not to take that too much to heart. I do appreciate all the work you've done for us in the past and am reassured that you will not be severing your ties with Milhist. On a more personal note, your counsel has always been useful and valuable, and I shall miss your contributions. Thank you, once again, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 09:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now I think of it the biggest factor in the reduced votes is likely to be the eleventh-hour name change. Unless they read carefully, your supporters, for want of a better word, would miss the fact you were standing. Someone even commented to this effect. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 10:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to miss having you around on the project's coordinator page, although I am glad to see you will remain on Wikipedia. Take care, mate :) TomStar81 (Talk) 19:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's for the best for everyone. I think it'll freshen me up. I'm not too worried/hurt about a voter backlash, I've received much worse, including some double-dealing, fall-guy traps, faking emails to get people in trouble etc by political users who were all schmoozing it up when they wanted me to dispose their enemies etc... Nothing like that happened here of course. The coords all have 5+ A/FAs etc and none of them are running about trying to start a personality cult and disciple-gathering while never doing any work unlike some "seniors" in some other WikiProjects. It's just a lifestyle change. I was in two minds about walking away and getting more article work of course due to increasing time pressures, and I think this was the right thing to do. The only thing I can't do now is close a few A-class reviews, which only cost a few minutes a week anyway. I don't tally the contest votes because I'm competing obviously. I'm not sure how many people would be put off writing A/FA class articles if they consider it to be an endorsement of a coordinator to be a "fingerwagging headmaster" (MOS) but its good to stay on the safe side. They might think "If that's how MILHIST is run I don't want to be a part of it". If I want to change something I can do my own thing, but I think staying away and not feeling pressured about helping to spruce up the FACs and FARCs will rejuvenate me. Which involves fixing up MOS and then harping to people about getting into good habits about MOS and why it's important for FAs... and why it's important because MILHIST likes to keep its quality tradition up. I'll continue to do these MOS things without proselytising about it of course, which I'm probably less inclined to do without. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's fair to say that it is a beauty contest, after all, everyone who got elected has written lots of A/FAs and nobody did publicity stunts, which unfortunately is the staple diet of getting political job promotions in other parts of Wikipedia. I can think of a lot of serious article writers, predominantly oldtimers, who have criticised Sandy and the modern FA system, and said that they would boycott it. I don't mind whatever the system is, but I don't want MILHIST people to boycott MHR-A/FA. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks also for your contributions - they're much appreciated and I'm glad to see that you're going to remain active in the project. Nick Dowling (talk) 08:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

apology

I'd like to take the opportunity to publicly apologize to you with regards to this, and I have already struck those remarks. -MBK₀₀₄ 01:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no, there's no need to apologise at all. I just don't think it is notable or noteworthy at all. I was a bit worried that if it was on signpost some people might think it was a deliberate political move or whatever, but I don't think it is. Although with all the nonsense that happens on Wikipedia in lots of places, I don;t blame anyone if they do think that. See above. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		Thank you very much YellowMonkey for your brilliant copyediting in our quest to bring Melbourne Airport up to FA standards! Mvjs (talk) 05:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and well done on all the hard work. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:

I know the RFCU file is pretty messy but many of them are SPAs associated with 2channel based on Michael Friedrich (talk · contribs)'s canvassing and persistent wikistalking me such as Mochi (talk · contribs) did. I think I clearly said the reasoning for filing it because of the identical abuses founded in the AFD for Uriginal and South Korean cultural claims. I don't even know why even the confirmed abusive sock/meatpuppeters are not blocked yet.(assistant checkuser clerk's help needed?) The file was getting messier due to Michael Friedrich's implausible excuse and some user's additions. Many SPAs target the same articles as indef blocked trolls edited such as such as Koreans in Japan, Comfort women, Empress Myeongseong, Tribute etc.

I suspect Eichikiyama (talk · contribs) is a reincarnation of Azukimonaka (talk · contribs)/KoreanShoriSenyou (talk · contribs)/Orchis29 (talk · contribs) because of same way of arguing/writing and interest (especially in cuisine, ancient history, Zainichi Korean and manga). Azukimonaka has used various ISP (ODN, OCN, so-net, and home.ne.jp.[1] They often said "please teach me"[2], "being written"[3][4][5].

Hye-Hyun (talk · contribs) who appeared on Comfort women after Ex-oneatf (talk · contribs) (maybe using 58.108.161.195), Northwest1202 (talk · contribs) and Priorend (talk · contribs) were blocked shares a same POV and edited. He lied about himself being a Korean which was easily detected per his false use of Korean and weird naming. Template:Carl Daniels is also likely a sock of Priorend. Zerosen (talk · contribs) and Honda-Hawk (talk · contribs) on the article are SPAs editing the very same as the mentioned users. Therefore, I believe Hye-Hyun, Carl Daniels, Priorend, Zerosen and Honda-Hawk are likely socks.

As for Watermint (talk · contribs)(see User_talk:122.135.163.183) and Forestfarmer (talk · contribs), after their meatpuppeting was founded, Watermint has been using sock ips BIGLOBE (mesh.ad.jp)and appeared on Comfort women. I think these users using socks and may appear on the AFD because Watermint used to participated in any AFD/CFD against Japan/Korea as well as Mochi (talk · contribs) does.

Justiceforthefuture (talk · contribs), Bukubku (talk · contribs), 동아 일본 (talk · contribs), Mabemabe (talk · contribs) are nothing but just reverting SPAs.

If you need more clarification, please let me know. Thanks.--Caspian blue (talk) 11:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me for interepting, but it is not true that those articles got messier becaus of me (I wonder what Caspian blue means by "messy," though). I have never edited Comfort Women or Empress Myeongseong. And I edited Tribute only once[6] and Koreans in Japan twice[7][8]. Those edits have nothing to do with edit wars or anything like that.

Caspian blue is just accusing anyone who's got the same idea unfavaourble to him. But I think it is natural that many have the same idea because anyone who learned the Japanese history would do the same act if they heard such a strange claim that Japan was a vassel state of Korea. Even a Korean user did the same thing[9]. Calling anyone who has the same idea as a sock is not a good thing. At least, I am no sock. Thank you.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 03:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Daialone = Zerogen is rather likely. Eichikiyama is possibly Hye-Hun but apart from that there isn't much that is useful. If they are just throwaway troublemakers, they can be binned in any case. There's a straw poll right above to keep everyone entertained. YellowMonkey (choose Australia's next top model) 05:06, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock input

As you were the CU who blocked FBD, please provide input here User_talk:Spacefarer. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I only blocked one account and left the other, but they are definitely the same and edited the same topic. Tiptoety decided to block the other, effectively banning the guy, which is his choice. One was about Landmark, and the other about its owner. There is an overlap. YellowMonkey (choose Australia's next top model) 05:06, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Best regards

I am sorry to hear you felt it best to not be an coordinator this term. As this was a benefit to e, I felt I needed to say something to you. I hope to do you credit in the difficult task of replacing you. I hope things get better for you; I know a lot about wikidrama as well.--Gen. Bedford ^{his Forest} 04:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm sure you'll do fine, you're much more experienced and untiring at things like DYK processing and article assessment. As for Wikidrama, that was 18 months ago now and isn't relevant because I was just pointing out that the "drama" of this is a non-event. It's good to be able to spend more time on writing. YellowMonkey (choose Australia's next top model) 05:06, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

I've pulled it off. Please discuss your concerns on the suggestions page. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, in that case it is probably best to bring the issue to WP:ERROR. I have to go offline urgently now. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]