User talk:Rjanag

I will be traveling from now until January 12 and will only have intermittent access to WP. If you have a non-urgent problem that you need to contact me about, the best way to reach me will be through e-mail. If there is an urgent problem with the {{DYKsuggestion}} template or anything like that, you may be able to get a faster response by posting a message at WT:DYK, where it will be seen by editors who are also involved in maintaining the template, such as Suntag and Gatoclass.

Have a good holiday,
Politizer ^talk/_contribs 13:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

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Incorrect mathematics

Your comment on DYK was proven false. There is 14,000 characters on the current page. The fact that you would put it at such a low number, in addition to your recent actions as of late, is highly incivil and very questionable. I have also received many complaints in my email box about you from people who feel that you are doing a disservice to DYK. Must I proceed to having a topic ban of you from reviewing? Or will you cut this off now? Ottava Rima (talk) 18:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I counted with prosesize.js, the count is accurate, and nothing has been "proven false" unless you take your own word to be the capital-t Truth. I have responded to your comments at T:TDYK.

This morning I tried to leave you a message at your talk page politely saying that I was willing to put this fight behind me and I was hoping we could move on, but you have clearly chosen not to do so. Even though my note at T:TDYK did not at all challenge your hook and did not say it should be rejected (in fact, you can see that I said the hook is fine and may be reviewed), you have instead chosen to continue to pick a fight. Therefore, I humbly ask that you not post at my talk page anymore. If you want to continue fighting or if you ever need to engage in Wikipedia-related communication with me for any reason, you may e-mail me. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 23:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Tomber la chemise

Hi Politizer ! Thank you for your message on my talk page and for having nominated this article for DYK. However, my English is not very good (French is my native language). Sorry ! But I will check the English translations of the covers / parodies after all. :) Europe22 (talk) 21:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok ! "Solder" is a French word that means "to sell at sale price". Cheers, Europe22 (talk) 21:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Neurolinguistics

Do you have a handle on what this article is about? All the references are very technical and I would have to do some major learning to get this right. Do you think the article is actually combining more than one topic? Could you outline what I could be most helpful at doing? Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I have enough of a handle to write introductory-level stuff, but I'm not a super-expert yet. I agree that it would be nice to bring in some more accessible references.

As for what you can do...I was mostly just wanting a second pair of eyes to let me know if there are any major concerns that need to be addressed before going to GA (but it will be a while before I take this to GA anyway, so there's no rush)...and also if there are any particular sections that are really confusing, you could point them out. I imagine that the references we get are going to be pretty complicated, even if they're not journal articles, because that's just what the field is like...but my ultimate goal should be to take all that complicated stuff and dilute it into something that a WP reader can get something useful out of.

My main plan for the article right now is more or less as follows:

1. Add a section on some of the big issues that are being researched a lot (for example, the question of how information in sentences is processed, and how neuro uses specific brain responses–the ELAN, LAN, N400, and P600, note the redlinks—to piece that apart)
2. Add a section, if possible, on the applications of neuro to other fields and to real life
3. Possibly spin the "experimental design" section out into a separate article

That's about it for now. It's hard to go into stuff like the models proposed about how language processing works, because that is really more the domain of psycholinguistics (the way I like to think of it is, people in psycholinguistics propose a model about how the mind processes some language-related thing, then people in neurolinguistics test it...of course, there's a lot of overlap, but the general thing is that a lot of neurolinguistics is just knowing about brain imaging, and figuring out clever ways to see what the brain is doing; they just happen to do it with the goal of attaining linguistic knowledge rather than other stuff). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 01:21, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Oi, butting in rudely, I'd be very happy to work on Neurolinguistics. But it will be at least one week, possibly three before I have any time. Later! Ling.Nut ^{(talk—WP:3IAR)} 02:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem; it's not going anywhere! —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:Usuki Stone Buddhas

Thank you for your kind remarks about my efforts on the Unjusa article. A bit more to add yet. I must confess that I have no special or in depth knowledge on any of the subject mater covered here, or have any knowledge at all on the Usuki Stone Buddhas. My interest is basically learning more about sites that we visited while on extended trips to Korea (we've been to Japan but only Kyoto and Nagasaki). I took a lot of photos here, and other locations of cultural interest in Korea, and thought sharing what we experienced with others could be accomplished through the Wikipedia project. There is so much that is beautiful and unique in Korea that it is a shame the rest of the world is so unaware it. I am basically regurgitating information that I have gleaned from being at these sites (Unjusa in this case) and other references. I'll look into investigating the Usuki Stone Buddhas after I get through with some of the other things I'd like to do. If I feel I have something that I can contribute, I certainly will.Steve46814 (talk) 04:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion

The only method I have found in the past that works with this person is to cease responding completely. That has worked on AN/I and on other talk pages. This person has the ability to provoke responses that feed into the situation like shark bait. I am very guilty of falling for this but I will now cease. Everything has been said, I think, unless further "polls" are proposed. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 05:45, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

For perspective:[1] —Mattisse (Talk) 23:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK feedback

I was planning to get involved in DYK again, helping out. I remember I contacted you not too long ago about how complicated it seems now. Over the last few days I considered helping out with checking articles, sources etc. and rewriting ALT hooks, as I used to be very good at that. However, when I look at the DYK page, it does not seem possible for me to just help out without screwing things up. I am not good with templates and technical stuff. If I get a desire to enter a DYK of my own again, perhaps I will be motivated to read all the directions that now seem necessary.

I looked at a hook to check or write an ALT for and find I can't just do it. If I tried, I would screw up something.

I know you said nothing had changed and it was still very easy, but it doesn't seem that way. There is no way to just join in anymore? (I feel sad about this situation.) —Mattisse (Talk) 00:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK - John Johnston (Fur trader)

Hi, thanks for your quick help. Between us it's up - just made an editing error on the template.--Parkwells (talk) 19:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article

In your opinion do you think the article Jessica Alba could become a featured atricle in the near future? I ask you becasue you seem that you are quick to fix any mistakes in the article. Hda3ku (talk) 01:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much it’s really hard to find wikipedias as yourself that really gives you a good answer to a question. I will contact you if I need any further help. Hda3ku (talk) 01:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC

By the way would you find the tools granted to an admin helpful I would be happy to nominate you. Hda3ku (talk) 01:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Garden Gnomes

Looks like the Garden Gnome hook is attracting pranksters to the article. I see you've been monitoring, and I will try to do so as well. Thanks for your help. Cbl62 (talk) 00:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Undercover gnomes, perhaps? Or, rather, I guess they're more like gnome anti-liberationists... —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 00:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Foxxy Love

In the episode, she CLEARLY said 'Certified' and not 'trained'. You need to rewatch the episode. -- 75.38.251.84 (talk) 04:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't even watch the show. All I know is your edit replaced "I'm trained in..." with "I'm certained in..." (not "certified"), and that's not even a sentence. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 04:11, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, I made a mistake. Thats why you bring mistakes to the person's attention instead of saying it's not constructive and a test edit. -- 75.38.251.84 (talk) 04:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I brought it to your attention with the message I left you. I had no idea your edit was supposed to say something else; I'm not a mind reader. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 04:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Another look at WJBE's hook

Pardon the intrusion, but could you please take a look at Suntag's alt hook for WJBE? He modified the article and wrote an alt tag that reflects the contents of the article, includes a relevant photo, and has been sitting unloved for more than 24 hours while the nomination itself is aging like a fine cheese. Thanks in advance and, again, sorry to interrupt with the big orange banner. - Dravecky (talk) 06:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Main Page hits contest

Since you vetted The Swimming Hole, perhaps you would want to set up and run a Main Page hits contest on the DYK talk page similar to this. -- Suntag ☼ 13:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Giant huntsman spider

Thank you for your quick points on the DYK nomination of the Giant Huntsman Spider article. We've done some cleaning up and added some references. Would you check it again and see if it's up to par? Many thanks --DarkAvenger (talk) 14:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Ohh, Gatoclass just did... --DarkAvenger (talk) 14:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

2 cents

Your 2 cents would be welcome at Battle of Nitzanim. -- Suntag ☼ 17:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

CGTG

I responded to your comment at Talk:T:DYK. I hope the changes done now clears it out. Thanks, --Soman (talk) 17:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion template

Copy-and-paste the suggestion template over to Next Update is a great idea! I never thought of that. My Wikipedia:Bot_requests#DYKCheckbot doesn't seem to be going anywhere anyways. -- Suntag ☼ 18:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Tomber la chemise

Hello! Your submission of Tomber la chemise at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! -- Suntag ☼ 20:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review 3 (Odexed)

Thanks for assisting in the improvement for the article Odex's actions against file-sharing, and please accept my apologies for the previous lack of response and edits due to dealing with real-life issues. I'm pleased to let you know that the third PR for the article is now up, and looking forward to hearing feedback from you so that it can be brought over to FAC soon. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 22:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Laogai Museum

On 18 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Laogai Museum, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 23:32, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Comments at T:TDYK

Hi Politizer! Firstly, thank you very much for participating in the discussion at Talk:Nitzanim as an impartial editor. I will reply to all content-based comments there shortly.

About Gatoclass: I was not aware of tensions at DYK or of other personal attacks, and apologize if my comments worsened the collaborative mood there. However, I still believe that Gatoclass acted in bad faith, both by threatening to oppose the DYK nomination based on his personal opinion ('if the quotes aren't removed, I will move to oppose...'), and by removing the quotes and ignoring the previous discussion on the page (and finally by using the 'X' mark on DYK, which usually means 'not ready', to state his personal opinion, although this is less important). This, on the background of tensions in Israel–Palestine-related articles, where Gatoclass is involved as a pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel editor, is especially concerning, just like what you said about my statements on T:TDYK, and led me to believe that he was acting in bad faith. I appreciate the fact that Gatoclass is a frequent DYK contributor and may know better than me what should or should not be on the main page in this section, but as I said, my comments weren't made because of his opposition to the DYK, but because of the way in which it was conducted, especially on the contentious I–P background. I hope this clarifies the issue. Cheers, Ynhockey ^(Talk) 03:16, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Ynhockey, I think these comments just demonstrate your ignorance of how DYK works. DYK reviewers are constantly engaged in assessing articles, and the templates are there precisely to indicate those assessments. Since I believed your article would not be suitable for the mainpage if it included the quoteboxes, and you insisted on reverting after I had explained my POV, I had little choice but to go ahead and voice my opposition.

As for editing the article - I am constantly engaged in editing articles submitted to DYK in order to make them eligible. Shortly before the edits to your article, for example, I made multiple edits to this submission in order to bring it up to speed. 99% of the time users are happy to have me help bring their articles to DYK standard, occasionally as in this case they contest the edits. I haven't acted any differently in the case of your article than I have for hundreds of other articles at DYK, your perception that your article was singled out for some kind of special treatment is simply incorrect. Gatoclass (talk) 03:48, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Oprahwinfrey24 - my ears are burning!

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?!

For what it's worth, I don't have a strong opinion on whether we should use "Scotland" or "Scotland, UK" - I simply revert the Nimbley6 troll on sight. I believe consensus is to prefer "Scotland, UK" however. From this new user's use of "Doesnt" and "Constuient" I'm tending strongly towards the "thank you for reverting yet another incarnation of Nimbley6"-view. Thanks for spotting this.

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm now 100% convinced the user is User:Nimbley6 - or at least a sock of User:Cyrusmilleyhannana. I've added User:Oprahwinfrey24 to a current RfCU, based on Oprahwinfrey24's edits to Leon Jackson here and on other languages' Wikis. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 18:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch

for your help with the DYK. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK edit

I was just asking if that means that the article is ready for DYK? Is it?? Its my first nomination and i got jackpott the first time! The Rolling Camel (talk) 21:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Just in case you're interested

Hi Politizer. I've just given a reply at this DYK thread, and I thought I'd draw your attention to it just in case you were still interested for the record. It's amazing how quickly the talk page fills up these days, and I've been too busy to keep up with it much recently. Keep up the good work, Olaf Davis | Talk 23:28, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Tomber la chemise

On 19 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tomber la chemise, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 23:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your reminding!

Oh, I see. :) 百家姓之四 討論 (Discussion) 02:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

New template

Thanks for the message on my talk page. One thing I don't understand though is why you have disabled the template for hooks with more than one article? Gatoclass (talk) 05:04, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

IMO we get very few multi-noms that are authored by different people. If you could include code for multinoms where all the articles are written/nominated by the same people, that would be very helpful. Then you could just leave a note saying that the template doesn't handle code only for multinoms authored by different people. Would it be possible to do that? Gatoclass (talk) 05:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. It also depends on how useful multi-noms are. Is it something you want to encourage? —Mattisse (Talk) 05:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, multinoms save space, so we generally do encourage them for related articles.

Politizer, your description on my talk page sounds fine, but I think if the code is just going to automatically produce credits for multinoms on the assumption they were all produced by the same person or group, it might be an idea to have an automated note to go along with the multinom output reminding updaters to check the validity of the credit strings before promotion. That would ensure that new users and people unfamiliar with the system will not just grab all the credits and paste them, assuming they are correct. Gatoclass (talk) 06:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

RE User:Johnnysmitthy

Hi. I've reverted to the last version before he started editing. Nothing he added was useful, and was full of personal attacks. I also left a warning on his page about unconstructive edits. Cheers, Ben (talk) 16:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

No hard feelings about what you did on my talk page. The only problem was that I was trying to do something similar at the same time! I have also put a message on thsi user's talk page. No reply needed. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Cookie thanks

Thank you. I did that because someone just ahead of me pulled the request, but I thought it needed a decline and protect else he'd do it again. Daniel Case (talk) 18:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

1947–8 civil war DYK

Hey Ceedjee, I noticed your comment at Gatoclass's talk page, and I just wanted to say, it looks like a good fact for DYK (although it's a little long; you could trim it down to be a bit punchier), but as far as I can tell the article attached to it isn't new or expanded (DYK articles have to have either been created in the past several days, or expanded fivefold in the past several days). Were you planning on starting a new article on a related topic? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 14:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I think Ceedjee was joking. The Palestinian Civil War is already quite well documented on Wikipedia :) Gatoclass (talk) 15:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Oups...

Sorry, I was not joking.

I sincerelidy didn't know that DYK was only for recently expanded articles !

Thx in anyway !

Ceedjee (talk) 20:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK Mitsuyasu Maeno

Hi, Politizer. I'm not very familiar with the workings of DYK, so I'm dropping a note here-- It looks like Alt 2 has been selected, though I think we agreed on Alt 3. Not a big deal, except that Alt 2 has a typo in it... Also, I was wondering if we might want to substitute "ultranationalist" for "right-wing" in Alt 3, since that's the term used in the source citing the lead. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 20:30, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Politzer. The link to the pink film article is an added bonus-- that article has been one of my long-term projects. Cheers! Dekkappai (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

German Socialist Labour Party in Poland - Left

Hi. The DYK nomination of German Socialist Labour Party in Poland - Left is about to expire. I have addressed some of your queries. Regarding the source issue, I don't know if your concern should be interpreted as a 'no' to DYK inclusion. It is a problem that the article relies on a single source, but on the other hand it is a published scholarily book, with extensive use of references. --Soman (talk) 20:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --Soman (talk) 07:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Coopey Falls

Your probably right that it is not a notable village - privately owned and so tiny. The revisions I saw the otehr day making it a page more specifically about the falls itself is better. It is a notable falls in the series of famous falls along the Columbia River Highway and I was surprised to see it missing from the list. If I find better references to add I'll look again at updating the village info. - Vanroc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanroc (talk • contribs) 23:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Joyous Kwanzaa!

Habari Gani, Politizer! Kwanzaa is not too far away, and to celebrate, I am working on the Karamu (feast) article. I have listed possible references at the bottom, and was wondering if you wanted to help out in the construction. » \ / (⁂ | ※) 00:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

French sources

I've been looking for someone to translate and verify refs! Would you mind checking out the French books on Leon M'ba and 1964 Gabon coup d'etat and verifying that it's all true? You have no idea how ecstatic I am right now. ~the editorofthewiki ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 02:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

No rush: I just want to have it on the main page by February 17. Best, ~the editorofthewiki ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 02:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

WE Seal of Approval Program

Regarding a single source, this is an obscure but significant aspect of the history of comic book collecting. Vishnava had no problem with this when approving it for a DYK.Dgabbard (talk) 06:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Herb Ringer

Regarding more sources, I made a good faith effort and added a commentary from a documentary that features a section on Ringer, and I did add sections. Can't an exception be made since this is a person who deserves to be documented, IMHO?Dgabbard (talk) 06:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

9-article DYK

I have submitted an ALTERNATE hook for the 9-article DYK. I believe the wording now is such it closer relates to the articles involved. As long as the "200 character" rule could be a little flexible since there are so many articles involved, I believe this should be something closer to what might satisfy everyone. Do you think this would work? --Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

The alt hook looks good to me. The 200 char rule is waived for multinom hooks, BTW. Gatoclass (talk) 14:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the 9-article hook came up this morning! Thanks for your inputs. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:28, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that is one heck of a DYK hook! Congratulations! —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 05:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Graphics

RE: Your DYK

Oh, I see! Ha, can you tell I don't contribute to DYK that often? Anyway, thanks for your reply. I'm a little confused as to which section I should put my request at now though seeing as it stops at December 11th and goes straight to "December holidays" or whatever. Could you link me to the right section to place my nomination?

Cheers, and happy holidays!

—Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 16:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

God, anyone would think I'm new here. I'm really not, just inexperienced at DYK! Thanks for your help, I've added it now :) Seasons greetings! —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 17:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy First Day Of Winter!

Happy First Day of Winter!

A stand of Pine trees beautifully coated in winter snow.

Wishing you a Merry Christmas, Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa!

Just wishing you a wonderful First Day of Winter 2008! Mifter (talk) 17:28, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

If you live in the Southern Hemisphere and are entering the season of Summer not Winter then I wish you a happy First Day of Summer 2008!
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DYK for Randy L. Bott

I appreciate your civility and professionalism regarding comments on this article. With the notability issue passing for now, would you now be willing to modify your DYK comments regarding its nomination accordingly? Thank you. --Eustress (talk) 20:17, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Oh crap I totally forgot about this, and nobody left me a note about the problems? Can this be re-added, and I'll get to it first thing tomorrow morning? ayematthew ✡ 02:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem, thanks! I'll get to it as soon as possible tomorrow morning. ayematthew ✡ 02:44, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK: Danish Monarchy

I hope to have addressed the problem. Thanks for contacting me. :) --Cameron* 21:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	<font=3> Wishing you a "Feliz Navidad and a Happy new Year" Tony the Marine (talk)

User_talk:Johnnysmitthy#.22Other_IDs.22

Here's your answer. Enigma ^message 05:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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And thanks for this. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 13:19, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Another project for you (copied in part from talk page)

Suntag, I noticed your conversation with Daniel Case, and I just had an idea that seems like it might be up your alley.... I don't know how we would go about actually implementing this or keeping track of these kinds of things, but maybe it would be cool to have a list of DYK articles that go on to make GA or FA. (since the DYK credit template is transcluded in the talk page, the easiest way might be to have a bot that goes through all pages where that is transcluded, and return all pages that also have GA or FA in their {{ArticleHistory}}.) Of course, who knows, maybe such a list would just be embarrassing (what if we find that 95% of DYK articles stagnate and get ignored after their big day?) but if not, it may be fun to think about. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 16:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I posted a request at Wikipedia:Bot requests. Please revise {{Dyktalk}} with |GA= and |FA= that will populate Category:Wikipedia Did you know articles that are good articles and Category:Wikipedia Did you know articles that are featured articles if =yes. Thanks. -- Suntag ☼ 17:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Suntag

You are certainly allowed to write up a co-nom. One from you would be valuable since you two have worked closely. If he transcludes it before it's up though it may be better to just support, but you can write one up, that's no problem. Wizardman 19:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Another question regarding DYK

Is it guaranteed that all nominations will be checked and placed if suitable for selection, or are some missed out or simply not included? —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 21:01, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah okay then :) I was just unsure because the last few times I've submitted for DYK it's been reviewed within a day or so. Just curious! Thanks. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 23:52, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

No worries, are non-admins welcome to help process the backlog? If so I'll gladly help out. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 23:56, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, if that's okay...

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Reply to a notice about signature location

Hello Politizer,

Thank you for the notice and I am sorry that I'm still fresh to the whole Wikipedia contribution system. Dvelopmentguru (talk) 00:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Politizer, my very best wishes for the festive season stay safe and talk to you in 2009.--VS ^talk 11:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Citation

Hello Politizer,

I am going to try and set a meeting with the writer of the article and direct them to a wiki Asher Roth article as a reference so they can make the article better.

Thank You Again, Dvelopmentguru (talk) 14:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Best Wishes

File:Mars celebrations.jpg

Best wishes and a great new year Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I saw the captions on the Garden Gnome Liberationists photos, and I laughed. Aren't you supposed to keeping an eye on the gnomes to make sure they don't make trouble? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Holidays. I hope you enjoy the rest of 2008 and get 2009 started off right. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

RfA

Per this, its perfectly okay for people to nom & !vote. In fact, its the norm! Merry christmas :-) John Sloan (view / chat) 01:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Wu Cheng'en

Great to hear you agreed with me on the change. Would you mind taking a look at my hook? It's two entries below yours. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

• Glad to hear you find the hook interesting. It's what made me write the article. I came across her by accident and the idea of an 11-year-old flying a fighter jet was intriguing, I stamped out the entry all in one day. (I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see the magazine covers and the press coverage) - Mgm|^(talk) 18:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Axon terminals

DYK nomination entry Axon terminals Thank you for re-wording the hook. I made two articles, one was to discuss the new biography Dr. Regehr from a very small Saskatchewan town Shaunavon as a Harvard medical school leader in the field of pre-synaptic calcium dynamics, which is very technical DYK hook. The other to show a new neuro-science technical term article on axon terminals which explores exocytosis release of the neurotransmitter across the synapse. Also too technical. Both are involved in the physiolgical study of cellular neuroscience to explore the central nervous system to help understand neurological disorders, memory etc. Your wording is good and more for a layman to understand. I am not sure, then if both will/can succeed as DYK. Kind regards SriMesh | talk 01:40, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Can you elaborate how you mean to verify the double hook for Axon terminals and Dr. Wade Regehr. Like in both articles, as the fact is verified already. SriMesh | talk 09:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

SS Empire Advocate DYK

There are no offline refs in the article! Mjroots (talk) 02:21, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Early left anterior negativity

On 27 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Early left anterior negativity, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cbl62 08:27, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

DYKsuggestion format

Hi Politizer, just wondering about the output of your DYKsuggestion template.

I notice for example that for the Zhao Zongru hook, the template is outputting the following:

| creator           = Nlu
| creator2          = 
| creator3          = 
| creator4          = 
| expander          = 
| expander2         = 
| expander3         = 
| nominator         = 
| comment           = 
| image             = 
| credits           = 
*{{DYKmake|Zhao Zongru|Nlu}}

I can't really see the point in all this. Once DYKsuggestion has outputted the credit string, ie *{{DYKmake|Zhao Zongru|Nlu}}, why do we need all the rest? It seems redundant and it takes up a lot of space. Also, we are experiencing increasing problems with loading times for the page, so the less text the better.

One other thing, I've noticed your code outputs this whole DYKsuggestion thing in brackets {{}}. Is there a reason for that? I can't see why they are needed. Gatoclass (talk) 11:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I will have to read all that through carefully at some stage, because I didn't understand all of it. However, I really don't see why you need to output any of those fields at all, they don't provide any information that isn't in the credit strings, so I can't imagine why Suntag would want to keep them. And given the difficulty in outputting only selected fields, I think you should just dump the lot and be done with it. Gatoclass (talk) 13:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

While I'm on this topic, it occurred to me a day or two ago that we don't really need the "expander" fields at all. They have only created confusion, so it might be better if we just had "creator" fields to serve as both creator/expander fields.

IMO, we don't really need to be informed whether the article is new or a x5 expansion, because we have to check that in the article's history page anyhow. Gatoclass (talk) 13:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Re your last post, I wasn't suggesting dumping the entire template! I simply meant dump all the fields except the credit strings. Sorry if I failed to make my meaning clear. Gatoclass (talk) 14:01, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Just to make it clear what I have in mind, basically what I would like to see is an output something like this (using the above hook as an example):

{{*mp}} ... that the Tang Dynasty official Zhao Zongru served under six emperors — Emperor Dezong, Emperor Shunzong, Emperor Xianzong, Emperor Muzong, Emperor Jingzong, and Emperor Wenzong?
<!--
*{{DYKmake|Zhao Zongru|Nlu}}
*{{DYKmake|Emperor Dezong|Nlu}}
-->

- So basically the hook and credits can be just picked up and pasted into next update with the absolute minimum of cleanup, making for greater ease and less possibility of errors. Gatoclass (talk) 14:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

New List of Chinese Prisons

At [2] there is a new list of prisons. Kind regards, Sarcelles (talk) 14:56, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Again with the Wikistress I see. Chinese prison will do that to you. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Just waiting for the gnomes to bust me out.... —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 19:50, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

It might be a while. From the looks of their article they are busy protesting. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:08, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I look forward to the new FOX series Prison Break: Gnome Edition. - Dravecky (talk) 20:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Haha...the gnomes will have maps of China on their stomachs. (There's no point having the map higher up, on the chest, since they wouldn't be able to see it under their beards.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 20:25, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Thanks for the comments about DYK and transwikied articles. Since you seem to spend some time on DYK, would you please take a look at Westinghouse Desilu Playhouse which I nominated on December 23 and let me know if it is suitable for DYK. Other articles around it in the list have been patrolled; for some reason, this one hasn't. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 00:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK Freedom House (Roxbury, Massachusetts)

Thank you for the help and notification of the nomination for DYK. I have been away for the holiday and I don't find any comments that describe issues that need to be clarified under the nomination's entry. Maybe they were taken care of in my absence? But if I find any, I'll do my best to clarify them. KarenMerguerian (talk) 03:00, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK request

I know this is somewhat an unusual request and perhaps a bit rude of me to ask but you seemed somewhat of a DYK expert and we've dealt before. I have a number of DYK nominations that haven't been reviewed despite being up there for a few days (I realise things are moving slowly along) and am going to soon be in a position where I will have to absent myself from Wikipedia for a number of days. My concern is that I will be unable to respond to any queries if they don't meet the criteria so I was hoping that if I pointed them out that you or another editor who spends time there or even just someone who happens to see this could take a look. If it is done quick enough I will hopefully be able to respond and fix any problems. Just yesterday I was informed that my 2TV nom had a difficulty despite me believing it to be fine, so that's why I'm in a bit of a panic about the rest. I'd do it myself but naturally that would be inappropriate. So I'll take a look at some of the other noms to make up for it.

The links I request clearance cover a range of topics from my more usual TV and music to the more abstract topics of bank loans and suspicious deaths. Here they are: Template talk:Did you know#2TV, Template talk:Did you know#Death of Brian Rossiter, Template talk:Did you know#Anglo Irish Bank hidden loans controversy and Template talk:Did you know#Dirty Epics. I am therefore postponing the creation of at least one article that I intend to be on DYK in future. Thank you in advance for at least taking the time to read this message and have a happy new year. --➨♀♂Candlewicke _S^T _# :) 08:16, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. You too. Hear you again in the new year. --➨♀♂Candlewicke _S^T _# :) 15:48, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK discussion

Cool down mate. Getting heated up won't help, it will just put the project and participants in a bad light. Let's try to be cool and address the issues in a sensible way, shall we? We don't want any more incidents like Ameliorate!'s. Chamal ^talk 14:04, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Enjoy your break

Politzer, have a good time on your travels and enjoy your break. We look forward to seeing you when you return. Thanks again. Truthanado (talk) 18:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Suanmeitang

On 28 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Suanmeitang, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Sandstein 20:56, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Inadequate references for Suanmeitang

I have been reluctant to participate in DYK lately because I perceive a decline in the quality of submissions as well as an over emphasis on DYK collecting. The article Suanmeitang is an example of the type of article DYK editors should screen out. Not only is it a translation by one editor, of unknown accuracy and unchecked by another Chinese-speaking editor, but its references are woefully inaccurate and do not pass WP:V and WP:RS. These type of articles will result in a degradation of Wikipedia. There are plenty of bad articles without encouraging people to produce them in order to rack up DYK points. I hope you look into this, so that DYK does not decline further. Perhaps few DKY's per day would be better, than having inadequately screened articles on the main page. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 21:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Mattisse, thanks for your message. As you know, I always value your input and respect you as an editor, so I will do what I can to improve the article if you think it is deficient.

As for the translation issue, as I expressed at WT:DYK, I believe that translations are just as reliable or unreliable as any other unreferenced additions, and as such I have added to parts of the original article that I translated over and couldn't find a reference for. For parts that I could find a reference (what I deemed to be an ok reference; there were other references that I ignored because they were too blog-ish) I added the reference and often reworded the original article's wording. And parts of the original article I totally left out because they were BS. So it's not really a direct translation, it's just using the zh-wiki article as a starting point for writing my own. The verifiability and referencing standards on zh-wiki shouldn't be an issue, since I tried to write this stuff using the standards of en-wiki (which is why I left out much of the text that was on zh-wiki, and added much text of my own).

As for the references, if you can point out more specifically which of the references you think have RS problems and why, I will be happy to look into them more closely. I know some of the refs were from somewhat advertisement-y sites, but I have included some of them anyway to verify information that I thought would not be in a conflict of interest with the publishers of those sites (for example, what suanmeitang is made of or how long it has existed, or the fact that it's considered a summer drink); ie, I tried to use the advertisement-y refs only to make neutral statements. Naturally, since it's a new article that I just threw together for fun, there are sure to be deficiencies and errors, and I'm willing to work with other editors to improve the article (although right now I'm a bit on-and-off wiki). Politizer ^talk/_contribs 04:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, about the book snippets (I noticed you made some comments about them)...I don't have time to look right now and I don't totally remember, but I believe at least one of them was to verify something like the fact that the drink is usually drunk in the summer or something. This is something that is sort of common knowledge (I think) in places where it's a common drink, but of course I couldn't just say it myself because it would be OR...but I figured its common-ness was enough to allow me to take that leap in interpreting the book snippet source. Of course, it's not the best kind of source, and it wouldn't pass FAC or anything, but I basically saw it as a way to provide some sort of reference to a fact that a lot of people (although, granted, probably not a lot of en-wiki readers) just "know." Politizer ^talk/_contribs 04:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Individual DYKs vary, and some are better than others. On the whole the DYK program has been a big success and is wildly popular. It's encouraged article creation, and it's promoted interest and exposure to interesting and often obscure subjects. It's a great addition to Wikipedia and highlights many of the best qualities of the project. Your efforts have been a very positive part of the program, and any editor who thinks DYKs should be handled differently or reviewed more carefully can go and take part in the DYK proposals. I appreciate your willingness to carefully consider suggestions, and you're doing a great job with everything except ignoring the distractions. Stop taking the criticisms personally and ignore the small stuff. Some people are going to disagree with you. It's no big deal. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:00, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

You are correct. I used to take part in the DYK process but I am no longer willing to do so. My personal opinion is that the quality has drastically declined since the days when I was an avid participant. I was shocked looking at the recent DYKs. (I confess I no longer read them, so it was a revelation.) Why is this talk page such an ugly red color? Is this a defect or a supposed "feature"? Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 05:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

And DYK has always been "wildly popular". What easier way is there to get on the main page, which seems to be the obsession of many? And lately DYK "collecting" has become "wildly popular" also. Look at User:Suntag, for example. That is about all he has done and he is running for admin on that basis. —Mattisse (Talk) 05:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

My comment is intended to be encouraging and to reinforce a focus on the fun part of editing. I'm a bit troubled that I seem to have participated in turning your talk page into a critic's corner on DYK. But as long as we're criticizing stuff, all your red ink is giving my nightmarish visions of getting my High School English papers back. :) I think I need a Chinese medicine elixir or some monkey balm to ease the tension... ChildofMidnight (talk) 08:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Mattisse, I think once I get back from traveling I'll have access to at least one of those books through my university library, so I can check and verify whether or not the "snippet" supports the article text, if that will help alleviate some of the concerns.
As for the red on my talk page, I'm not sure...I might have forgotten the </font> closing tag when I was putting the red message in my edit notice ;) I'll see if I can fix it. Politizer ^talk/_contribs 16:05, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Wu Cheng'en

On 30 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wu Cheng'en, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 03:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sakshama

please unprotect the page Sakshama, when wikipedia is having articles for techfest, techniche and other technical fetivals. then why not a article for sakshama, a technical festival which was started from a small town of india in the year 2007 and now it is going to celebrate it's third version and it has been said as no #1 technical festival of north india. so i want to write a page for it please unprotect it. you can find more at http://sakshama.org or you can find the same communities on orkut and other social web Aashish K Mahaswary (talk) 15:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

You can ignore this; I have pointed the user to WP:RFPU/WP:DRV. He didn't know how to reach an admin and so left talk messages for a page-full of recent changes editors. Stifle (talk) 16:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Dates in DYK notification

I noticed that there are the two wikilinked dates in the DYK notification placed on the user's talk page, ex: "On [[30 December]], [[2008]], ..." and "<!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] -->. There have been several recent discussions with consensus on WP:MOSNUM that dates should no longer be linked. Do you think it's time to change the DYK template to match the WP:MOSNUM#Linking and autoformatting of dates guideline? Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 03:11, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Article Update Notice!

Hello Politizer,

I believe you're having a safe and happy holidays.

Here wishing you a happy new years, which is on its way.

Please review the article when you get a chance.

Thanx,

Dvelopmentguru (talk) 19:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)