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My Admin Policy: I trust that my fellow admins' actions are done for the good of Wikipedia. So if any of my admin actions are overturned I will not consider such an action to be a "Wheel War", but rather an attempt to improve Wikipedia. If I disagree with your action, I will try to discuss it with you or with the admin community, but I absolve you in advance of any presumption of acting improperly. We should all extend the same benefit of the doubt to our fellow admins, until they repeatedly prove that they are unworthy of such a presumption. For every editor, I try to follow WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL and expect the same in return.


I need your opinion about a problem with editor DreamGuy

Dear sir: I have suffered an incident of offenssive language by user DreamGuy, that seems to have previously engaged in such behaviors (see [1] and [2]). I would like to know your opinion about the best way to further proceed. Thank you in advance, --MaeseLeon (talk) 23:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not very uncivil but I agree "silly" was a bad choice of words. You may try WP:3O. RlevseTalk 23:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it was more like "pedantic", "ridiculous", accussing me of "tactics" and "bullying", while I was just trying to... mention a classic, existing book in an article. I have sincerely felt insulted and bullied by no reason at all. His last action was erasing my (polite) request for further explanations in his talk page. I have nothing against this editor, actually it is the first time I meet him, but it looks like he has been involved in severely disruptive behavior before in such a degree that he's under a civility restriction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/DreamGuy_2) that he seems to ignore.

I'm unsure on how to proceed from now on when finding someone like him on Wikipedia... must I just forget my editions and abandon in the face of abuse, just to avoid further conflict or "edit warring"? I really don't know how to handle a situation like this, and I really don't feel like continuing a dispute with an abusive individual like this one. --MaeseLeon (talk) 00:04, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Ridiculous" as uncalled for too. Amazing you've been editing two years and not had this problem before. Keep your cool, if you blow it's ammo for him to use. Take a break if need be. If you feel someone is sanctionable, report to the appropriate noticeboard, WP:ANI, WP:3Rr, etc. You may want to look at WP:DR too. RlevseTalk 00:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't feel like it. If he thinks he's right, and that's tolerable bahavior, I'll let it be. Thank you anyway. --MaeseLeon (talk) 13:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

You've got mail. AdjustShift (talk) 06:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sunholm

I'm a former meatpuppet of this user who wants to make a fresh start now. I'm going to edit independently from him. --Gulsig4 (talk) 18:55, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great. RlevseTalk 09:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
He did contact ArbCom requesting a review of his community ban, but they weren't going to unblock him - they decided to leave it to the community. However, what I can confirm is that an IP address used by him, was an open proxy/zombie computer, and there is a legitimate user on it - he mainly edits mediawiki.org and is a former editor here. I'm aware you're a Checkuser. Please can you unblock the above IP since it's globally blocked anyway? --Gulsig4 (talk) 10:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Don't give that out. RlevseTalk 10:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No way I'm going to unblock an open proxy/zombie. Those are long term blockable. Your friend will have to find an acceptable Internet source to edit from. RlevseTalk 10:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry for giving out the IP. I suppose if it's globally blocked though.. no point locally blocking, not that I understand global blocks well. What's the general consensus regarding former meatpuppets trying to reform? --Gulsig4 (talk) 10:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stop meatpuppeting and edit within policies and you'll be fine. RlevseTalk 10:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

See Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests#June_11. –Juliancolton | Talk 03:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cool but it'll probably lose unless someone figures out more points. The Burnham article lost because they said it only had two points.
Looks like it's doing well so far. –Juliancolton | Talk 01:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My day

You definitely made it : )

Not sure what I may have done, but thank you. Anytime I receive such positive commendations, they're definitely appreciated : )

And this one is quite special!

Thanks again : ) - jc37 10:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You deserve it. RlevseTalk 10:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pssst

I tumbled upon an ArbCom thing, I forget how, but I found some little errors, spelling, grammar, missing words (without which the sentences made no sense), etc. I edited the page to fix them, but I hope that is okay, I know I'm not a clerk or anything, but you know how I am with spelling and grammar and such. I hope nobody will get mad at me for it! ArielGold 13:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it's obvious things like that, no one should care. Let me know if they say anything. Thanks for helping Lady Ariel! How you been? I'm ok. RlevseTalk 13:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you're back. :) I'm having kind of a rough patch of life lately, but we'll see how things go. ~*Big Ariel Hugs*~ ArielGold 13:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How so? Contact me, I'll help.RlevseTalk 13:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You've got email, if you can look into that asap. ;) ArielGold 22:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sick of this wikilawyering

I might have overreacted in this discussion [3] but I think that baseless accusations like this one have to stop if we want to have a honest discussion. Can you please take a look into these accusations of canvasing. What really bothers me is that even after I made it clear that's not "canvasing" and even the guy whose email was made public said that is not canvasing the guy still insist it is. If you deem right to punish me too that's fine, but please take a look into these accusations. Thanks! man with one red shoe 19:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rlevse, would you warn man with one red shoe for his continued personal attacks and harassment? I think Taivo's conduct is beyond the policy and shoe' harassment is intolerable.--Caspian blue 19:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
See my final warning on talk evidence and talk workshop pages. RlevseTalk 21:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Why I'm being lump togeter in this group? [4] [5]. I'm in the military stationed in Japan, I have never used or being associated with this IP sharing group. I have never engaged or being accused of edit warring or any incivility. On what basis I'm being lump in this group? Bravehartbear (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The diff right after the entry on you is pretty convincing RlevseTalk 01:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure

Which language to thank you for the unexpected honour. Horosho, terima kasih, dank u, or what, and I had just signed off for a short break too. cheers/sampai nanti/buenas dios (ok I am very busy and very confused - that is for sure) SatuSuro 01:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Those all do quite nicely. RlevseTalk 01:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to bug you...

Just wondered if this is anyone we know. Cheers! J.delanoygabsadds 02:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonia 2 and "nationalists"

I just saw that a party added in his evidence a bit about "the main argument put forward by the Greek nationalist side". I understand that this case tests the nerves of most of us and many already crossed the line or are about to. While I was repeatedly a target, I didn't ask for any help and certainly I didn't ask for anyone to "shut up" or be banned. But this time, I think that something has to be done. The ethnic factions strategy that some parties follow ("bad X nationalists" vs "good others"), is immature ("I don't like the truth/the argument, you're a nationalist"), offensive and counter-productive. I'm asking for the removal of every reference (in the form of a direct insult) to "nationalist X". I would ask the parties to do it by themselves, but I'm positive they wouldn't listen. If you find the time, please do so. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 11:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gracious Thanks

Thank you for your declaration of JodyB day! What a wonderful surprise. I wish I had so many more hours to work here but when I do come by I am thankful for such a nice greeting. I hope you will enjoy a wonderful day yourself. JodyB talk 00:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know about the ANI thread?

Rlevse, I saw the action on your talk page today. When I happened to look at ANI just now, I saw this thread. It appears you were not notified and I want to make sure you knew. I'll comment there. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I was. RlevseTalk 10:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Abd and JzG

I see that it's ready to close. I broke my computer, which is sent in to be fixed at the moment. Hersfold, the other clerk on the case, still appears to be unavailable, as well. However, I can close the case between my classes at my university's library today. Hopefully, I can get it done by 2:30 PM (Eastern Time Zone). Just giving a heads up that it will be done, and sorry about the wait. Good day, hmwithτ 13:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NPRlevseTalk 16:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~*Ding*~

You've got mail! ArielGold 15:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Block logs

Hello, from reading a discussion at User:Donadio's talk page, I see that you removed something from his block log. Although his story and mine are not precisely the same, they are close: During the time when one of my other stalkers was active, I contacted the admin Tiptotey.. or something, I forget how to spell it.. Anyway, I contacted him asking for a block, with a diff as evidence. He had an itchy trigger finger unfortunately, and accidentally blocked me instead. He of course quickly undid his action, but I was wondering if it would be at all possible to do something similar for me, less someone read it wrong or something in the future.— dαlus Contribs 21:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your case is a little different, Tiptoety's entry clearly says it was a mistake and there's nothing offensive other than a mistake being made. In Donadio's case, you can't separate the block entry from the summary without oversighting it. I'll ask for more input though.RlevseTalk 21:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your time.— dαlus Contribs 23:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is this about?

“Greg L is prohibited from reversion of changes which are principally stylistic, except where all style elements are prescribed in the applicable style guideline.”

Since when have I edit warred on anything related to style? The only edit wars I’ve been part of have all be substance. Even when I was battling on WT:MOSNUM over the IEC prefixes (“mebibyte” v.s. “megabyte”), I wasn’t edit warring on individual articles. Where is the basis for this restriction? Greg L (talk) 23:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Date_delinking/Evidence#Greg_L looks like the Manual of Style to me. RlevseTalk 00:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Findings of fact

Please see several factual objections against your "Findings of Fact" in the Macedonia case, on the PD talk page. Fut.Perf. 09:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for revising some of your findings. Still, I feel I must request some more clarifications [6]. Fut.Perf. 21:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rlevse, I've also posted a reply with factual objections here and would appreciate if you had some time to read it. Thanks. --Avg (talk) 22:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coming back to this, there are (at least) three issues that I feel need refactoring: 1) I have never been implicated in any dispute outside Macedonia 2) I have never called Greece666 "Albanian" and 3)repeatedly restoring controversial edits was officially considered vandalism until a couple of weeks ago, this is why I used the word. Again, please see my detailed reply in the link above.--Avg (talk) 23:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if you might be able to take a look at this proposal and let me know what you think? -- ChrisO (talk) 00:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One more request (on behalf of J.delanoy this time) - could you please give some feedback on his request at Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2/Proposed decision#Temporary injunction? -- ChrisO (talk) 08:18, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Responded. RlevseTalk 10:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And by the way, are your warnings still in force? I don't think we should be expected to put up with this. Fut.Perf. 09:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He used your own phrase so this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I, nor did anyone, block you over it, so I'm not blocking him either. Consider yourself warned and I'll warn him. RlevseTalk 10:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How about not just looking at "phrases", but at what they were used to refer to? There is a difference between the Penguineater troll on the one hand, and User:Kafka Liz on the other, you know. Fut.Perf. 10:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'd certainly like to think so. :/ Kafka Liz (talk) 10:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Medal of Honor lists

Thanks for the 2 new lists of MOH recipients for the Naval Acadmey and Military Academy. I added them to the template.--Kumioko (talk) 13:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added them here Template:Medal of Honor recipients--Kumioko (talk) 23:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thx

I needed that. --KP Botany (talk) 01:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. It was well deserved. RlevseTalk 01:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to you comments on my talk page

Hi Rlevse. I have copied below your edit on my talk page and my replies that are there also. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 11:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

................................

Malcolm: I've looked at some incidents you were involved in and I'm seeing a pattern. If someone brings up an issue you often respond by attacking that person instead of addressing the issue. Let me point o ut that an admin merely trying to work to resolve a situation is not "involved". Warning you does not make an admin involved. You also seem to reject advice and have a disdain for arbcom, which is your right but I assure arbcom is not the big evil you think it is. Terms like "whitewash", and "picks favorites" and the like show that you appear to be here to be adversarial rather than build the encyclopedia. Just in the last six weeks or so you've been blocked 5 times. It's in your own best interest to cease the behaviors that cause this. RlevseTalk 02:47, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rlevse, thank you for your comments on my talk page, which I understand to be well intentioned.
You wrote "You also seem to reject advice." I understand this to mean that that I disregard threats of sanctions.
You wrote "I assure arbcom is not the big evil you think it is." I never used the word "evil." What I said is that I think the arbcom decision was a mistake, and that it will do no good. On the other hand, despite my doubts, I certainly hope that it does improve the editing situation in I/P articles.
You wrote "an admin merely trying to work to resolve a situation is not "involved"." Rlevse, the administrator who blocked me, blocked me for the content of an edit that he thought insulted him personally. In my view that is a very involved (and angry) administrator.
You wrote "It's in your own best interest to cease the behaviors that cause this." I behaved in the way I considered rational and ethical in the context of the situation. I am sorry that we see things so differently. In my editing of WP I have done only what I consider the best for WP, and consider that an obligation. I also understand that some WP users, including administrators, do not agree with me.
If you think any of my views on these things need further clarification, please ask.
Malcolm Schosha (talk) 11:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Round about request from EveryDayJoe45

EveryDayJoe45 has approached me about, essentially, wanting to vanishing. He had originally approached Nlu about it on the 19th.

EveryDayJoe45 has also blanked his user and user talk pages on the 19th, pulled his name from 4 projects, and left one other good bye note. The note on my talk page is the only edit he's made since the blankings.

IIUC, RTV needs to go through a Bureau not an Admin. And I'm almost reading EDJ's request as one to lock him out entirely. I'm not 100% on that though.

I've responded to EDJ on my talk and let him know I'm punting this to you.

- J Greb (talk) 22:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:RTV and determine if he's in compliance with RTV. You only need a crat for the rename part. Appears he's done part but not all the steps. RlevseTalk 23:10, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks for that piece of information on my talk page. I will try to keep a level head with this guy; it seems like English isn't his first language, and that's probably why he called Coren an idiot. (lack of vocabulary) blurredpeace 01:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Desysopping proposals and Wikipedia:Five pillars

I think these are a big mistake. WP:NPOV is a core principle of wikipedia. Consensus and edit-warring are not. There was simply no way of enforcing this principle by adhering to these sub-policies. That's a big problem with our encyclopedia, but it is no solution to impose such drastic measures like this. I agree there should be admonishment for the incivility, but your proposed topic ban and desysop proposals against FPAS does nothing but punish a top-quality user for caring more about WP:NPOV, WP:NOT and WP:IAR than WP:EW and the twisted results produced by following WP:CONSENSUS at such a local level. Both users were following the principle outlined at WP:CLUE to make the encyclopedia better; they committed some other sins in the stressful process, but we're all human. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 08:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Working in a hot area is not a pass. ChrisO was warned several times on very similar issues. FutPerf has been talked to several times about his rude behavior and yet still thinks it's okay to insult other users. I've worked in ethnic wars myself and I know the pressures and being repeatedly rude to others is simply not necessary and is counterproductive. If both of them hadn't been warned multiple times over this and shown long term patterns in this regard I'd agree with you. RlevseTalk 10:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you don't wear ermine coat in Amazonia, and you don't run about with a loin cloth in Lappland. He's one of the few admins working in the area, and now and then has gotten a bit like his environment. So a bunch of uncivil diffs have been sieved out of his long contribution history; it's unreasonable to expect saintly patience from normal humans. He's just an admin! I'm thinking more about all the good he's tried to do rather than focusing on a few bad slips made along the way. If the Five pillars are really the Five pillars, then surely ArbCom should be seeking to make the lives of such users easier, not humiliating and castrating them. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:07, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Many admins work in the hot areas of wiki and don't react like he does. Are you saying working in a wiki hot zone is a pass? And remember, I've been there myself, so I know the pressures.RlevseTalk 18:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rlevse, I notice you still haven't reacted to most of my factual objections to your "findings of fact". Given the seriousness of some of the accusations, don't you think I deserve at least a comment? Fut.Perf. 12:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I assume you're talking about those first 6 points, I'll post a recap now. RlevseTalk 16:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and the follow-up I posted right underneath them, please. Fut.Perf. 17:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rlevse, Future has been relentlessly harassed by socks and some editors during the ArbCom case which include outing. Could you consider about the matter as well in the proposed remedies? --Caspian blue 16:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can certainly attest to that - I've had to clean up some of the outing harassment. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unclear about a couple of the things that you have posted in this case. Could you possibly take a look at the comments [7] here and clarify these points? -- ChrisO (talk) 21:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter XVII

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Done with dashes. I still have questions about a couple formatting and sourcing things, so stay tuned. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:39, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, BTW, we hate 2-column refs there. :-)RlevseTalk 22:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry :) Dabomb87 (talk) 22:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Happy Gurch's Day

Please give this to someone else. You already tried to give me one before and I said no. I already have a day. Gurch (talk) 00:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall the first time and I'd really like you to have it. You can delete from your talk page if you like but I'd like to leave the day assigned to you on my listings. You deserve it. RlevseTalk 00:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Meh, if you say so. (Why is it I always seem to receive these things following long periods of inactivity?) Gurch (talk) 00:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Why aren't you a steward? -Porchcrop (talk|contributions) 03:07, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HeHe. Should I be? RlevseTalk 03:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Because stewards are fail. So are administrators, for that matter. Gurch (talk) 05:24, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonia 2

Hello Rlevse. Regarding proposals, you might want to read this. If you have any questions, let me know :) SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 16:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I saw it, and the Responses to SQRT5P1D2 section below it and your admitted prior IP editing and your post on Coren's and Kirill's pages.RlevseTalk 17:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. My section was updated, that's why I left you a message. I also believe that Coren and Kirill should read it, as there are various bits and pieces here and there. They might have missed something.
In the FoF I read "SQRT5P1D2 is a Macedonia-focused single-purposed account" and that my "involvement with Wikipedia has been almost entirely been focused on editing a handful of Macedonia-related articles". A single purpose account (WP:SPA) "is a user account that edits either a single article, a group of related articles, or performs edits to a group of unrelated articles in the same manner on Wikipedia" and this is not the case (even excluding my previous IP contributions; for the record, many parties started as IP editors). Since more than 70% of the articles I've edited as a registered user (80% if you count recent edits), have nothing to do with Macedonia, this is unjustifiable.
Meatpuppeting means to recruit others editors to join a discussion on behalf of or as proxy for another editor. This has not occured in the one (1) neutral public message I sent. I condemned nationalism (requesting "no sarissas, the referee will show you a red card"; that means "be rational and leave nationalism outside of the field", as sarissas were weapons that ancient Macedonians took pride in). I also wrote that ChrisO's actions were not made "according to the regulations on neutrality and naming by using credible sources, such as academic ones". Blog and forum posts from others, with nationalistic overtones like "Macedonia is ours" added, have nothing to do with me or ChrisO. Nobody is responsible for what others do or may do, as Wikipedia is not isolated from the rest of the Internet.
I believe that the proposals need further examination, because they lead to wrong conclusions. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Harej Day

Thank you for the holiday, but how did I get the distinction? —harej 01:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen you help a lot of users and you don't cause problems that I know of. You're a good contributor too. RlevseTalk 01:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Typo

At Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Macedonia_2/Proposed_decision#Disputed_article_movement.2Frenaming_injunction_extension, you duplicated the word "comes". I would have just removed an instance myself, but I am not certain if you were intending to write one thing, and then reconsidered. Also, when you say "After the case closes", I assume that you meant at the conclusion of whatever process is used to end the dispute of the name of the country. If so, you may want to clarify that you do not mean the conclusion of the arbitration case. Just a suggestion. J.delanoygabsadds 03:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tks, I'll take care of it. RlevseTalk 12:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have history with Mattise? Or does one of your best friends???

I have no memory of any conflicts with Matisse and I, so I see no reason to recuse. RlevseTalk 12:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You've already declared yourself to be a "hanging judge" in this instance... which seems both hasty and over-punitive. But I don't suppose there's anything I can do. Ling.Nut (talk) 13:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I'm sorry you disagree, the actual PD isn't up yet. Thanks for the input. RlevseTalk 13:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to ping me anytime you're feeling like you're enjoying Wikipedia a little too much. I'll find some way or other to rain on your parade.. Later! Ling.Nut (talk) 14:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how to take that. RlevseTalk 14:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's just Ling's way of expressing his appreciation for all that you do here on Wikipedia ;) Dabomb87 (talk) 14:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(undent) Dabomb87's translation is essentially correct. I admit that my usual role is as a fault-finder, complainer, gadfly, etc. I do not mean to cause personal animosity, and do in fact appreciate many of the people I harass. Having said that, I am quite likely to harass you again in the future. Salt and pepper to taste with smiley face and/or winky emoticons. Ling.Nut (talk) 15:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"since 2001"

I edited only infrequently, and usually as an IP address, from late 2001 until January 2006. I had previously had on my userpage a bit of info about my IP edits, but I was advised to take it down since I couldn't "prove" it was me. (And none of it's very brag-worthy other than the fact that it allows me to claim I was here so early on. e.g. I technically created Autism, but all I did was add a link to someone else's web page.) Soap Talk/Contributions 21:18, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks!

Hey, all my little tags are back. Thank you. :-) SlimVirgin talk|contribs 11:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wording

Sorry for being a stickler for details, but after you reworded your incivility FoF and removed the "ethnic groups", there's still the phrase "....and their backgrounds" in the "admonishment" remedy. This bit about "backgrounds" still reeks of a claim of racism, and as such is a very serious allegation against my character, which I consider as bordering on defamatory. It is also quite out of line with my actual record in the field – even you will hardly be able to deny that a large part of my two and half years of success in working on Balkans topics is owed to my ability of establishing good rapport with editors from all the nationalities involved.

Can you please redact that too? The other thing I have repeatedly asked you to clarify, and to which you haven't yet responded, is why the desysoping proposal still contains the claim of "abused his admin bit". For all I can see, no such event is currently cited. Fut.Perf. 13:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw this. I'll respond in more detail later tonight. RlevseTalk 20:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Real life is unfortunately delaying this. RlevseTalk 02:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Took out "and their backgrounds". I'd left it in because your the repteated comments about Bulgaria; that term is considered offensive and derogatory by many. I guess "political entity" could be used but eh. As for the "abused his admin bit" part, I did get sidetracked before on answering that one. What prompted that being included was the block of Sadbuttrue92, the where CHL warned you afterwards. I've asked for other arbs' input on leaving that in. RlevseTalk 10:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for the clarification. I can of course understand that you may want a reference to that incident there, but then maybe it would be better if the wording was more specific as to the kind of incident referred to (and perhaps to its frequency). Fut.Perf. 10:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've linked that phrase to the FoF. RlevseTalk 19:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Three last minute diffs

I have added one last thing to the PD's talk page [8]. Do you think it's just fine where it is, or should I move it to the evidence page for better consideration? Sorry for the last minute additions but I believe these diffs prove exactly the point I was trying to make. --Radjenef (talk) 00:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All evidence should go on the evidence page. RlevseTalk 01:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup newsletter XVII.V

This is just a quick reminder that the round ends this Friday, May 29, 2009. I wanted to let you guys know the current standings. If you are very close, but not close enough, work as hard as possible these next two days. Pool leaders are listed as usual, and under the 10 wildcards, are competitors that are still fighting for a spot. Also, if you currently have any un-reviewed GAN's up and you'd like them to be reviewed and counted for this round, you must place them on the appropriate thread of the WikiCup talk page.

Pool A
  1. Wales Shoemaker's Holiday (647)
Pool B
  1. Colombia ThinkBlue (247)
Pool C
  1. Sweden Theleftorium (455)
Pool D
  1. Denmark Candlewicke (539)
Pool E
  1. Mexico Durova (479)
Pool F
  1. Switzerland Sasata (961)
Current Wildcards
  1. United States Useight (393)
  2. Iceland Scorpion0422 (372)
  3. Thailand Rlevse (329)
  4. Japan Wrestlinglover (307)
  5. Cambodia Paxse (285)
  6. Maryland Ottava Rima (248)
  7. Mitchazenia (226)
  8. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (181)
  9. Michigan the_ed17 (179)
  10. Isle of Man J Milburn (168)
  11. Confederate States of America Bedford (156)
  12. Toronto Gary King (147)
  13. New South Wales 97198 (142)
  14. Luxembourg Ceranthor (111)
  15. India Tinucherian (106)
  16. Vanuatu Matthewedwards (98)

 GARDEN ,  iMatthew :  Chat  , and The Helpful One The Helpful Bot 00:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]