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Re: List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America)

Don't remove periods from description phrases that actually contain grammatical phrases. For example, see this edit. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

That makes it too complicated and inconsistent. Why don't you follow after me ;-) — Rlevse • Talk • 00:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Will do it. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:27, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Equation for happiness :)

Rlevse + =

Happy April Fools Day :) Steve Crossin :  Chat  03:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

List of United States Air Force Academy alumni

See response on my talk page. - Tarfu92 (talk) 18:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Nearly...

I know it seems like just me, but add "Class" to the year col and I have no more complaints. I honestly cannot see a good reason not to include it there. Do that, support, job done (as us common Brits say...) The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Asked the coder. See you talk page. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Just saw it, never realised it was a template, so forgive me please. I should review both the page and the wiki markup more thoroughly. Bad Rambling Man.......! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm at work right now which is a difficult place to use Wiki in any great detail. I'll get onto your remaining lists as soon as I can, probably this evening. Hope that's okay. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:41, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Done. All lists re-copy-edited... Not much other than minor fixes... Hope that's alright. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:02, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks! — Rlevse • Talk • 19:03, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Gah. Missed the support thing. Done now. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

The appreciation is much appreciated! Regards, Zaian (talk) 12:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

NP — Rlevse • Talk • 19:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Ping

Hi Rlevse. In case you haven't noticed, I sent you an e-mail. Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 15:28, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

That was quick! Thank you, rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 15:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Commented on his page too, he's headed for a block. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
He's blocked now. See his talk page. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Edit summary at RfA

Can you email me the edit summary that you removed. I am just curious. If I was an admin, I could see those things. :P By the way, it was good to see you about. Are you feeling better? Please say yes. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

a vandal

I have to go; above is all vandalism; a school. needs 6 months off. Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks; I gotta get one of them buttons. Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:52, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
[1] — it does seem to have been a school; they removed that themselves — [2]. Thanks again. Cheers, Jack Merridew 04:11, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Eagle Scouts

If you want to take a break from service academy alumni lists, List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America) has been identified by Scorpion0422 as needing attention because it could be converted to a table format. While I don't think the list is a target for FLRC, upgrading it might not be a bad idea. I'm brainstorming here and I have zero technical knowledge like Gadget, but the table could include year of Eagle, DESA, notability, plus the name and references. -MBK004 04:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I hope Gadget can automate this. It is a good idea. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I will take a look. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
{{mem/estart}} and {{mem/e}} created. I don't know how many entries we have for the date of Eagle Scout, but I can hide it until we can fill it in more completely. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:51, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XI

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Talkback

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CfD nomination of Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of 5dsddddd

I have nominated Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of 5dsddddd (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. NanohaA'sYuriTalk, My master 02:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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Ping

I have sent you an email regarding a (recurring) issue. Cheers, ~ Troy (talk) 22:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Sent first answer. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Replied; the link is in there. ~ Troy (talk) 00:44, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Happy Marine 69-71's Day!

What can I say, but thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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NuclearWarfare (Talk) 22:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

More...

...of the usual. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 23:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't get it. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I'll email you with my take. NawlinWiki (talk) 00:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Sock help at 9/11

Could we get at least one checkuser to watchlist the hottest 9/11 article and nail any socks who show up, like this one. It is very burdensome for the volunteers there to both counteract POV pushing, and fill out paperwork at WP:SPI. Thanks. Jehochman Talk 15:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Try Avraham or Nishkid64, I'm swamped with arb work and such. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/Avraham 3

Not contesting your close, but why wasn't this left until the seven days were up? — neuro(talk)(review) 22:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

See his talk page. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

You have a fan

Special:Contributions/69.232.233.155

Just letting you know, as I am assuming this is a sock of someone, since you have never reverted, warned, or blocked that IP.

Cheers. J.delanoygabsadds 01:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

tks. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: FT Length

Usually 10 days. Arctic gnome should promote it when it's ready - rst20xx (talk) 19:21, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Adminship

Dear Rlevse, thank you very much. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 20:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

CIA and Barometer

Thanks for doing the sleuthing on Barometer, I must admit I had no idea. However, I noticed that you blocked him for 3 months. I would like to request that you extend that block to at least four or five. The reason is a little selfish on my part, but frankly, it's going to take me at least 2-3 months to get this article back to FAC (after taking it through PR and GAC all over again) and I would prefer it immensely if he did not come anywhere near the next FAC for this article. I don't know what the rules are in this regard, but given the damage he has already done, I think there is clear cause to keep him away at least until I can get it through FAC in a legitimate way. Thanks for your time and consideration, and I hope this message finds you otherwise well. (Morethan3words (talk) 21:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC))

I almost blocked him indef. Let me think this over. Feel free to remind me. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:44, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
No, I do not actually have any featured or good content to my credit, I have not concentrated my efforts on going through these processes really until recently. I tried to get L. Patrick Gray, an article on which I have done a considerable amount of work, to GA, but there wasn't really enough interested reviewers to get it there. I may try again, but in general I care more for factual accuracy and neutrality than for a lot of the formatting and style requirements that come with GA and FA. Why do you ask? (Morethan3words (talk) 20:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC))
Because if you had and I knew you could get it to FA in 5 months, I'd be more likely to extend the block. So, I'm going to leave it at 3 months and if he starts up again when the block expires, or starts socking again before that, just let me know. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
The choice is yours, of course, however, how am I able to know if he starts socking again? (Morethan3words (talk) 04:57, 13 April 2009 (UTC))
Same edit patterns, same writing style, same disruption, same article interests, etc, the way we ID most socks. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

←Ping: Looks like the guy just Plaxico'd with another sleeper, perhaps a CheckUser is warranted? Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_reassessment#Central_Intelligence_Agency. The account is First draft of history (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) -MBK004 18:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I have made an indef block for abusing multiple accounts, but I still really think another CU is warranted since this one slipped through. -MBK004 20:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 06:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, same to all of you. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Happy Easter to you! Re the MOH list, did you see the note I left on the talk page? Dabomb87 (talk) 16:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I put a clause in the first sentence of the paragraph to clarify it. — Rlevse • Talk • 16:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 16:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Crat assistance needed

Seeing that you are currently online, could you please address Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship.2FLaw? Regards SoWhy 22:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

 Done — Rlevse • Talk • 22:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response. Let's hope his RL gets well again. Btw, if you are on RFA territory already, I think Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Kww 2 needs closing. Regards SoWhy 22:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Honorary Maverick

Because I can't find a barnstar that truly conveys my gratitude, and I like originality anyway, I present to you my own award - the Honorary Maverick. Thanks for what you're doing on the USMA Alumni Lists and for squaring me away in general.  Ahodges7   talk 22:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Honorary Maverick
As former commander, "Maverick06", of Bravo Troop, 1st Squadron, 6th US Cavalry, and Maverick Emeritus, I hereby bestow upon you the Order of the Honorary Maverick for your tireless efforts to improve the USMA Alumni Lists and for squaring me away.

WOW, way cool, thanks! And the "Dead man's hand" from Wild Bill Hickcock! — Rlevse • Talk • 23:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Robert Lee Howze

Your DYK hook for Robert Lee Howze is 250 characters, when the maximum allowed is 200 characters. Can you shorten it? Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Already did. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for Robert Lee Howze!

Just a note to let you know your work is noticed and appreciated! My area of interest is the history of the United States Army between the Civil War and World War I, so after seeing your bio of Robert Lee Howze, I just thought I should say howdy and leave a token of gratitude. You and Ahodges7 have been knocking some items off my to-do list. I have literally been carrying my notes on Howze around in my backpack for months. I added a few things to the article and checked him off my list! Keep it up!! I hope to run into you again. Ejosse1 (talk) 15:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The Original Barnstar
Thanks, Rlevse, for expanding Wikipedia's coverage of the history of the United States Army by creating the article Robert Lee Howze.
Ejosse1 (talk) 15:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! — Rlevse • Talk • 17:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

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WikiCup Newsletter XII

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Your question at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/JzG 3

[3]. I did answer your question there, but discussion may have been derailed a bit. No, I'm not aware of recusal violations involving Cold fusion after the end of January. I have not researched other possible instances of involvement, I only examined Cold fusion and related issues or users recognizable to me from familiarity with the article history.

Recusal violations are unlike, say, incivility or normal editorial offenses. A recusal violation may have long-lasting effects even if the action itself would be or is later "blessed" by the community, in ways that are much less likely to happen when action is taken by a neutral administrator. Therefore, based on ArbComm decisions and discussion in arbitrations involving Physchim62 and Tango, it seems that with a clear recusal violation, as exists with JzG and Cold fusion, not marginal or doubtful, in order for the informed community to be satisfied that the violations will not recur, it will be essential that they be acknowledged as such. A mere promise to be more careful or to avoid action while involved, properly, should not be enough, because it is quite possible (even likely) that the administrator does not recognize the violations as improper; indeed, JzG repeatedly claimed, when questioned, that he wasn't involved, he was just doing the right and obvious thing, and he has claimed vindication based on some of the decisions still standing.

In fact, WP:DR has just begun with some of these decisions, whereas others are probably moot now. An expired IP block isn't a great thing to go to AN/I over!

Thanks for your question. --Abd (talk) 18:39, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Powhatan Henry Clarke

Dear Rlevse, you started the bio Powhatan Henry Clarke today. I've expanded the bio, and nominated it for DYK. Please see the hook at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created.2Fexpanded on April 13. Can you further develop the bio? And what about the hook? Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 19:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, I wasn't done with it yet. — Rlevse • Talk • 19:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your work, Rlevse. I've made slight modification by erasing the date.[4] :-) AdjustShift (talk) 20:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I just uploaded two photos of him, PD, to commons and will add to article and DYK. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Nice work! :-) AdjustShift (talk) 20:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

thank you...

... for that. It's been a while since we've worked together but I have only good memories of those times, and now you made me laugh, so thank you for that. Haiduc (talk) 02:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

IRC

Can you come on IRC? I need a CU ASAP. Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 22:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: My day

Thanks, Rlevse, that's very thoughtful of you and I'm really touched. Keep up the great work yourself. Best, Biruitorul Talk 00:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and you deserve it. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:22, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

congrats

[5] –Juliancolton | Talk 02:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Your hard work has paid off! Congratulations, and now get back to work on the other service academies ;) (On that note, I intend to split the astronauts to their own list from List of United States Air Force Academy alumni this weekend unless you have something against forking content from an existing FL) -MBK004 02:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Nice job! Dabomb87 (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Well done! Hopefully it was worth some of the pain?! The Rambling Man (talk) 07:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks all. Yea, I'm glad it worked out, hehe. MBK- fork it, it's the same pattern and reason as the USNA and USMA forks and you may even be able to get a FT out of it! — Rlevse • Talk • 09:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
That was my thought exactly. I think a main list to cap off the topic would need to be written as well, which would summarize the USNA, USMA, USAF, exactly the way the main alumni lists for each does, and house the entire lists for USCG and Maritime Academy. -MBK004 on the iPhone 15:15, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
There's a whole lot of work between now and that ;-) — Rlevse • Talk • 16:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

...for my very own special day! Yea! You are a wonderful Wikipedian and friend and your endless contributions have helped to make the 'pedia that much more wonderful. I haven't been around for some time now because "real life" has become so demanding, but I still sneak a peek at my "pet" projects on here now and again and love what you all have done ..with everything. Thank you :)

P.S. Somehow the form you posted on my talk page got embedded in one of my newsletters and its been so long since I've dealt with wiki code I can't remember how to fix it, lol so you have to open up the last Pro Wrestling Newsletter on my talk page to view "My Special Day" :P

Keep up the great work! - Jenny

--Naha|(talk) 00:13, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I think I can fix that coding error for you. Just a bypassing talk page stalker. :) --Dylan620 Efforts · Toolbox 00:20, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Fixed! --Dylan620 Efforts · Toolbox 00:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Dylan :) --Naha|(talk) 00:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

My Rfa

I do appreciate the concern as well as the pausing for my rfa. It was something I did not expect. I would as that you could or would be willing to re-open it. I am ready to address questions as well as respond. It may be in limited capacity, however, that is a normal part of life. Again, you have my thanks; I would like this to play out so I can accurately review my supports as well as my opposers. Cheers. I have brought the issue up at AN, because I realize that you may not be around at this time. Thanks so much. Law shoot! 09:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Yea, I was asleep. I see MBisanz took care of it. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedian of the day

So how do you get your name on that list? I have over 4000 edits and have been editing since 2007. –BuickCenturyDriver 12:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I just pick people I think deserve it. I also take nominations, but I've never had anyone ask about themselves before. I still have a long list of future selectees. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Checkuse/Sock question

I've got something that I'm not sure if it's case or not... or if a checkuser request is warranted.

It feels like it, but it isn't something that I can nail down precisely.

The affected user accounts are CmdrClow and ComicsPlace

A little bit of back ground...

Clow is an active editor focusing on comics related material. Of late they have been adding material that, to all appearances, is coming from sources that limit access to comics shop owners and distributors.

CP is an account that was put in place just over a year ago. One of its earliest edits was to create an advert message on it's talk page for "The Comics Place" - a comic book shop out of Bellingham, Washington - website address included. Most of its edit at that time were to act as a "booster" for Clow, nothing more.

CP went quiet last May, but popped up for an upload and to create an article in October, Superman: New Krypton, which Clow subsequently took over editing on. CP has popped back up this month, again editing on very few articles, and the bulk being ones that Clow gravitates to.

There have also been some articles that Clow gravitates to that have been heavily edited, patrolled, and/or reverted by at least two IP, 216.162.220.175 and 216.162.220.206, both of which trace to Oregon based on ARIN. One of those, 206, appears to have been Clow unlogged since it edited Clow's user page.

Right now, I've got a nagging feeling that all four are the same editor but I'm not sure if this is enough for a sock inquiry or to request a checkuser.

Thanks for your help on this,

- J Greb (talk) 23:34, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

List this at SPI, include diffs, it's definitely possible. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:01, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I placed it in the queue last night. - J Greb (talk) 14:23, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Mail

Checked and replied. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:02, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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The Admin's Barnstar

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks.  :) -download | sign! 23:43, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
no problem. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks! I have never had my own day before. KnightLago (talk) 00:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Some concern about proposed motion

I'm a bit concerned that your latest proposed motion would block efforts to deal with Macedonia-related disruption and vandalism. This diff is a perfect example of the sort of thing that has to be reverted on a daily basis - Greek editors routinely deleting any reference to the name "Macedonia" for POV reasons (note the edit summary). See the abuse filter log for many more examples, which I've been documenting for the forthcoming case. Could you please clarify whether your motion would prevent efforts to deal with this kind of behaviour? I've appended below the evidence I've drafted on this issue, for your information, to illustrate the scale and frequency of the problem. -- ChrisO (talk) 07:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Whether that's a "wrong" name depends on your point of view. The purpose of both motions is to lock the names down for the duration of the case. I'm not so sure the second motion will pass though. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism and disruption

Vandalism and POV editing relating to the name of Macedonia is persistent, regular and widespread across Wikipedia. It originates from a variety of signed-in users and anonymous IP addresses, very often tracing to Greece or Cyprus. Any article that merely mentions Macedonia, even tangentially, may be targeted. The edits and accompanying comments often convey overt ethnic hatred (e.g. "Fyromian fascists"). Such vandalism invariably seeks to promote the Greek POV described in the section above.

On 30 March 2009, Dragons flight established abuse filter 119 to track instances of the name "Macedonia" being removed from articles. It has been triggered more than 200 times in less than three weeks, excluding bot edits. The following examples are taken from just this three-week period and are typical of the disruption that occurs across Wikipedia on a several-times-daily basis, occasionally sparking edit wars between established editors and vandals.

Abusive editing on this issue generally takes three approaches, sometimes in combination:

  • Replacing all instances of "Republic of Macedonia" with "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia". [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21]. This is especially prevalent on articles covering subjects related to Greece, where Greek editors are (naturally) most active.
  • Ditto, but replacing "Republic of Macedonia" with invented POV or pejorative terms (e.g. "Former Yugoslavic Republic of Macedonia", "Vardarska", "Slavomacedonia", "Republic of FYROM"). [34], [35], [36], [37], [38], [39], [40], [41]

These edits are often done using indiscriminate search-and-replaces. This frequently breaks internal links and produces nonsense such as (on one occasion) stating that the Macedonian national anthem is called "Today over FYROM." Vandalism has also come from official sources in Greece. When President of the Republic of Macedonia was on the Main Page on 8 April following the country's presidential elections, it was twice vandalised by an IP editor from the Greek Parliament. [42], [43]

Another common form of disruptive editing is to replace mentions of the term "Macedonians" with the invented POV or pejorative terms "Fyromians", "Skopjans", "Pseudomacedonians" or "Slavomacedonians", or replace mentions of the Macedonian language with related POV or pejorative terms (e.g. [44], [45], [46], [47], [48], [49], [50], [51]). Again, this results in links breaking and overt POV in articles.

Countervailing vandalism (i.e. editing articles about Greece to push Macedonian nationalist terminology) appears to be much rarer - the filter does not seem to have caught any instances of this. This may be due to the filter's limitations but I've not caught any such vandalism recently in my own watchlisted articles.

Rlevse, please note that mass renames in stable articles from User:ChrisO and User:Future Perfect at Sunrise, who almost always triggerred reverts to the stable status quo ante, do not show in the abuse log since User:Dragons flight, out of good faith, has excluded administrators from it. Obviously reverting vandalism should be excluded from the motion, this is common sense, but when you see ChrisO labelling restoring the "fYRoM" reference at an article that had it for years without any edit wars occuring, as "vandalism", then I would be a little suspicious.--Avg (talk) 08:15, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the input. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIII

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I see we're farming the same pagespace

I've been working this list for a while, and am gratified we only have a lucky thirteen twelve eleven nine seven five no more redlinks to go. I'm going to take a shot at these bios from oldest to newest, likely one or two per week. (I planned to go more quickly, but Bowman and Ernst are actually very intriguing subjects, like Partridge.) If you see any good images for the pages I'm creating (I ache for a Partridge image), please feel free to drop them in. BusterD (talk) 12:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Wait a day before you write the summary on Tillman; I've discovered something unexpected and amazing. BusterD (talk) 22:36, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
A new category to apply when you run across such a subject. BusterD (talk) 23:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Can you give the last section in Tillman a fresh look? I'm really proud of this pagespace. It's my best "from scratch" creation so far. BusterD (talk) 14:32, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Looks fine to me. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:26, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm beginning to see reason to doubt the list of superintendents in order. I'm seeing several sources refer to John Biddle(1916-1917) between Clarence Townsley and Samuel Tillman. Example: Crackel, Theoodore J., West Point: A Bicentennial History p. 278. Available to searchinside at Amazon. BusterD (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Sidney Forman seems to agree with him. Neither mention Decius Wadsworth. Forman (p. 26) says "[On June 20, 1803] Upon Williams's resignation, Colonel Decius Wadsworth took command [of the Military Philosophical Society, the brain-trust of the nascent academy]." BusterD (talk) 18:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I'll ask Ahodges7, he's on staff there. We found one other error in the list when we started on this. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Forman's list has many exact dates for superintendents' service. BTW, my DYK and an alt is here. Any help you can add would be good; I'm really new at DYK process. I prefer my alt, but the sourcing is much weaker. BusterD (talk) 18:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Everything I can think to add takes it over the 200 character limit. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Looks like John Biddle was the Supe 1916–1917. Also, FYI, there is a street a here named Biddle Loop. Almost all streets here at USMA are named after former Supe's. The Register of Graduates I have with me right now only goes back to 1928 in hard copy, so I'd have to go to the library tomorrow to dig up an older copy. You can go ahead and insert John Biddle in the Supe list. As far as Wadsworth, I'd make an annotation that he was the acting Supe, as he was never officially appointed to the position, despite serving in the capacity because he was the ranking officer present.  Ahodges7   talk 20:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
All the redlinks are now blue. Will build Stewart when I find sufficient sources (today, I mean). BusterD (talk) 14:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

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I'd appreciate your help at WP:AE

There is a section you wrote, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Final remedies for AE case, that people are citing at WP:AE as though it were an enforceable arbitration remedy. Since I am not familiar with the case, I do not quite see why that is so, because that section does not seem to be part of the decision voted upon by the committee. I'd appreciate it if you could briefly explain the status of that section at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement#Discussion concerning Mr Taz. The same question also applies to the request made at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement#The Maiden City. Thanks,  Sandstein  20:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Would it perhaps be prudent to amend or edit that section in such a way that editors won't mistake it for a remedy or general sanction any more?  Sandstein  21:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Done. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:55, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

:-)

Rlevse, Chris G has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

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DYK for Robert Lee Howze

Updated DYK query On April 22, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robert Lee Howze, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 15:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

As we would say in the Cav... Attack! Congratulations and keep up the great work! BTW, I've nominated USMA for the TFA for Memorial day.  Ahodges7   talk 17:33, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello

I thought I'd bring this to your attention, in case you weren't monitoring it. I don't know what, if anything, you want to do about it. I thought this person had stopped following me around undoing my edits en masse, so I went back and fixed them, and he's gone and done it all over again. Except for a few specific articles that I've worked very hard on, I have absolutely no intention of undoing his edits again, so there's no question of a developing edit war (at least on my part), but I can't think it's a good thing for Wikipedia to have editors spend their time doing stuff like this person is doing instead of improving the encyclopedia. That's just my opinion, though. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 02:23, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey

You've got mail. AdjustShift (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

No. In no way does that meet WP:Oversight eligibility. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:28, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Powhatan Henry Clarke

Updated DYK query On April 24, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Powhatan Henry Clarke, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 01:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Indef semi-.protected articles

Hi Rlevse,
concerning a number of articles you indef semi-protected seven months ago, could you have a look and check if it's still warranted? I've stumbled on it because I was trying to figure out why Anti-Korean sentiment had been protected in the first place when there hadn't been any vandalism in the three weeks before protection. Protection on that one was lifted following a temporary full protection, and I was asked to restore it by two main contributors of the article.
Thanks & Cheers, Amalthea 11:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Guten Tag. Wie geht's Ihnen? Long term edit warring by Korean and Japanese editors. Lift protection if you like on these articles but don't be surprised if socking soon reappears. The Japanese-Korean edit wars are another of wiki's long term ethnic hot areas. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Gut, danke? Aber Du kannst mich gerne duzen. :)
FWIW, I'm still pondering this since the one unprotected article got some blatantly POV non-autoconfirmed edits today, but thanks for the feedback.
Cheers, Amalthea 21:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Wirklich? Wir koennen ein ander duzen ! — Rlevse • Talk • 21:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Klar, wir sind doch hier alle Freunde, oder? :) Amalthea 21:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Ganz bestimmt Freunde. Vorher have ich Deutsch ausgezeichnet gesprochen aber heutzutag habe ich ganz zu viel vergessen. Vorher ich lese Buchen, Zeitungen, usw, aber heute nicht so. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah, stimmt, ich las dass Du Linguist warst. Aber Du warst nicht in Deutschland stationiert, oder? Soweit ich weiß hat die Navy überhaupt keine Stützpunkte in Deutschland, allerdings ist unser Artikel nicht besonders aussagekräftig. :) Amalthea 12:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Ich habe Deutsch als Hauptfach ins Universitaet, aber das war so lange zeit! Ins US Navy bin ich Russishce Linguist. Ich verstehe auch ein bischen Japonish und Thai. Als Kinder I wohnte in Holland ein Jahr und besuche Deutschland--lezte Zeit war Stuttgart in Januar 2004. Sehst Du meine "About Me page". — Rlevse • Talk • 18:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

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You'll probably see this anyways

But since you might miss it on the drama page called WT:RFA, I thought that I'd point out a comment I made related to you.---I'm Spartacus! NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:44, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Responded, now let's watch the drama. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Just block the disruptive SPA accounts

This is very helpful advice. Can you now help me find an administrator willing to implement it? See my comment here. Thank you very much. Jehochman Talk 22:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Try the arb clerks is prob your best bet. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Good idea. Do you have any ArbClerk talk page lurkers? Jehochman Talk 22:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I have gobs of TPLs from arbs to newbie editors, including clerks. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Good! I posted at the clerks noticeboard as well. We need somebody willing to sort through the mess. I have no energy, nor time, to spend a few hours preparing a neat selection of diffs, but something must be done. The matter is fairly obvious. If I were uninvolved, I would certainly be able to handle it myself. Jehochman Talk 22:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

My day

Thanks! You, on the other hand, should probably be awarded your own decade, at the minimum. ;-) - Rjd0060 (talk) 00:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

That's not up to me, but many thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Henry Barry

Dear Rlevse, thanks for starting Thomas Henry Barry. I've expanded the bio and nominated it for DYK. Please see the hook at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created.2Fexpanded on April 26. Happy with the hook? And please check the bio. When I was developing it, I may have committed some blunders. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 13:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You've got mail. AdjustShift (talk) 03:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

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Section

College educations are usually put in "early life", but should we include the education received at West Point in "early life" or "Military career"? The education people receive at West Point is different from the education people receive at other institutes such as MIT. In many bios of West Point graduates, info about their education at West Point is included in "Military career". Example:

So, I'm confused whether to include the education received at West Point in "early life" or "Military career". AdjustShift (talk) 12:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Pardon my lurking, but may I be so bold to weigh in here? A cadet's time at USMA does not count towards their active service for the purpose of retirement, even though the are "in the army", and hold and ID card that says "active duty". It is not until they pin on the gold bars of a second lieutenant following graduation and become commissioned officers that their military career officially begins. Cadets may leave up until the start of their Junior year. If they do so, they are out processed and can never look back. As such, I think it is appropriate to list time at West Point as "Early life" or "Education", rather than part of the narative for a "military career". Just my opinion, but I'm living the experience right now, so I have a unique perspective on it.  Ahodges7   talk 14:27, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 16:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

North Leamington Community School and Arts College

The article North Leamington Community School and Arts College was correctly deleted, and I've recreated and now am asking you if you could retrieve the deleted article for me to merge. Thanks in advance, Widefox (talk) 14:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

See User:Widefox/sandbox — Rlevse • Talk • 20:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

An entire 24 hours?

I am... well, overwhelmed. Thank you very much. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


Wiki Break

I will be on wiki break for about 46 hours. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:41, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Back, and no talk page posts waiting for me ;-) — Rlevse • Talk • 21:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I got you something to show appreciation for my day. Hope you enjoy more work to do... Thanks! 02:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
See your talk page. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I'll keep it off the template until I have something significant to add. I always liked the supes list because it gave me something to aim for. Eventualist. Now, something new. I'm still building M.B. Stewart, and plan to go back and build many of the superintendent bios to B-class (Thayer really needs love). BusterD (talk) 02:46, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

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Whee!

Thank you so much!! :-) Xavexgoem (talk) 20:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Henry Barry

Updated DYK query On May 6, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Henry Barry, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 02:51, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

File:ISCAJournalNov2004.jpg missing description details

Dear uploader: The media file you uploaded as File:ISCAJournalNov2004.jpg is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. If possible, please add this information. This will help other editors to make better use of the image, and it will be more informative for readers. If you have any questions please see Help:Image page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:55, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Done. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


Macedonia 2

Thank you for trusting me as a party. I appreciate it. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 10:36, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem on that point, but just so you know, being a party is more a matter of involvement in the issues. Here you admit to prior involvement in the case, that was the key for this particular case. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Image review

In doing an image review for an FLC, the nominator asked me if there was a tutorial or something, that would help them know what to look out for in the images they were using. I couldn't find one, so thought I'd try to help. I've had a go at putting down some of the things I do now. I thought this might also have the potential to be helpful as a PD reviewing resource, so I was wondering if you wanted to put any of your thoughts down too? I understand if you don't want to, but if you don't ask you don't get. Best wishes, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 15:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Added a bit, can you add the requested links? — Rlevse • Talk • 15:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation

Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 08:41, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Bad call

The situation is simple: a user requested to have his rights removed and I removed them. Honestly speaking, I don't care whether this user is sysoped or not and local bureaucrats can overturn steward actions, so, feel free to revert me and resysop the user or you can ask any other steward to undo my action. And please don't say "both your parts". I don't know User:Jennavecia and I have nothing to do with the conflict. In other words, I am not part of a conspiracy against Scarian. Anyway, you are one of the users that I value their opinion and I regret that the first edit by you on my talk page is a complain of one of my actions. --Meno25 (talk) 23:41, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Spacebirdy was right on this one. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:08, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Well thankyou my friend! Dr. Blofeld White cat 08:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

topic ban

why should i be topic banned from baronets and knights ?? Shouldn't this proposal be split into 2 - one for vk and one for me so people can vote seperately? Kittybrewster ☎ 09:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

For things like items A and B as pointed out by SirFozzie. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:03, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you mean
A) Vintagekits is well known to the Arbitration Committee as an instutituion (if not to the individual members of the Arbitration Committee). He has a long and storied history of.. being problematic in certain areas. Please note, I'm not saying he's not useful to the project in other areas, (he's one of the few users I can think of that have a FA to their credit after a community ban that was later modified).However, British Baronetcies is an area where I think VK cannot help but be disruptive. Some would say his "Two weeks till I bring the pain" type comments is evidence of WP:POINT-y behavior. I'm thinking that at least a limited PERMANENT topic ban, specifically in the area of British nobility is probably a good thing.
B) Kittybrewster is another user who has.... a history in this area. A lot of it mirrors that of Vintagekits, I cannot imagine two more people diametrically opposed in worldview. I do not know if he has a COI regarding baronetcies, considering the rank he holds. He does have a strong POV in these areas (not saying he's wrong or he's right, just that he has one). Combined with the voluminous past history (of which the Troubles ArbCom is not a full record), perhaps a topic ban from the area as well is for the best, encyclopedia wise
If so A is not relevant and re B, would he please provide recent evidence in support? Kittybrewster ☎ 11:45, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
FYI Giano (talk) 10:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
She probably said that because of statements like this for Vk, so I'm curious why you haven't said anything about Vk's incivility. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:58, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
If I referred to either of them in that manner I would be blocked immedciately, more than likely it would be you that would do it - and you know it!--Vintagekits (talk) 11:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Not so quick on the trigger Vk, you did make such a statement (see my reply to Giano) but I did not block you. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
The two are in no way comparable - chalk and cheese. BHG also got away with calling me a thug. Seems acceptable now. Noted!--Vintagekits (talk) 11:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Re. Happy Husond's Day!

For Rlevse! Húsönd 15:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello Rlevse. Thank you very much for this kind distinction and shiny star. It's always nice to have new messages and realize that it's not somebody yelling at you. :-) And since it's my day... have a slice! Best regards, Húsönd 15:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA

Thanks! I actually followed your early-close recommendations :D -- Avi (talk) 00:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Hehe. Glad someone besides me read them. I got them from Nichalp when I became a crat. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Starry thing

Thanks! EdJohnston (talk) 02:25, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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IRC

You on IRC at the moment? KnightLago (talk) 01:35, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

logging in. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:44, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Disagree

Rlevse, I'm afraid I have to take great exception to this. SQRT asked two questions that were pure insinuation, implying that some further evidence or further parties might exist, but saying nothing about what or who they might be, making the questions effectively impossible to answer. The questions served no purpose but to insinuate misbehaviour. That is exactly what FPaS called him on. Instead of warning FP of bans from the arb pages, we really should be cleaning up that nightmare of a workshop and removing the matters that that aren't helping the matter. Those are what is truly agitating the situation. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Some agree with you and some with me. I got the opinion of two other arbitrators beforehand and they both agreed with me. Even if we all agreed with you, FPAS's response did not help the matter. I'm sorry you disagree here. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, was there a plan of trying to solve this problem sometime soon? It seems right now, the plan is to let the workshop spiral out of control and then bite people who try to call out others on it. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 11:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
We hope to have the PD posted within a week or so if that's what you mean. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, there's something, thanks for that. I just hope that will actually have workable solutions. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 11:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
We all do. At least we can all agree on that. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

So, with your high standards about behaviour on arbcom pages, are you going to do something about this continued mud-slinging? Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I need your opinion about a problem with editor DreamGuy

Dear sir: I have suffered an incident of offenssive language by user DreamGuy, that seems to have previously engaged in such behaviors (see [52] and [53]). I would like to know your opinion about the best way to further proceed. Thank you in advance, --MaeseLeon (talk) 23:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not very uncivil but I agree "silly" was a bad choice of words. You may try WP:3O. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, it was more like "pedantic", "ridiculous", accussing me of "tactics" and "bullying", while I was just trying to... mention a classic, existing book in an article. I have sincerely felt insulted and bullied by no reason at all. His last action was erasing my (polite) request for further explanations in his talk page. I have nothing against this editor, actually it is the first time I meet him, but it looks like he has been involved in severely disruptive behavior before in such a degree that he's under a civility restriction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/DreamGuy_2) that he seems to ignore.

I'm unsure on how to proceed from now on when finding someone like him on Wikipedia... must I just forget my editions and abandon in the face of abuse, just to avoid further conflict or "edit warring"? I really don't know how to handle a situation like this, and I really don't feel like continuing a dispute with an abusive individual like this one. --MaeseLeon (talk) 00:04, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

"Ridiculous" as uncalled for too. Amazing you've been editing two years and not had this problem before. Keep your cool, if you blow it's ammo for him to use. Take a break if need be. If you feel someone is sanctionable, report to the appropriate noticeboard, WP:ANI, WP:3Rr, etc. You may want to look at WP:DR too. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I really don't feel like it. If he thinks he's right, and that's tolerable bahavior, I'll let it be. Thank you anyway. --MaeseLeon (talk) 13:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey

You've got mail. AdjustShift (talk) 06:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Sunholm

I'm a former meatpuppet of this user who wants to make a fresh start now. I'm going to edit independently from him. --Gulsig4 (talk) 18:55, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Great. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
He did contact ArbCom requesting a review of his community ban, but they weren't going to unblock him - they decided to leave it to the community. However, what I can confirm is that an IP address used by him, was an open proxy/zombie computer, and there is a legitimate user on it - he mainly edits mediawiki.org and is a former editor here. I'm aware you're a Checkuser. Please can you unblock the above IP since it's globally blocked anyway? --Gulsig4 (talk) 10:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't give that out. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
No way I'm going to unblock an open proxy/zombie. Those are long term blockable. Your friend will have to find an acceptable Internet source to edit from. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Sorry for giving out the IP. I suppose if it's globally blocked though.. no point locally blocking, not that I understand global blocks well. What's the general consensus regarding former meatpuppets trying to reform? --Gulsig4 (talk) 10:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Stop meatpuppeting and edit within policies and you'll be fine. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Well, best to mention it on WP:AN, I'm policy-compliant now anyway. I just felt I had to get this off my chest to a checkuser. --Gulsig4 (talk) 11:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

TFA

See Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests#June_11. –Juliancolton | Talk 03:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Cool but it'll probably lose unless someone figures out more points. The Burnham article lost because they said it only had two points.
Looks like it's doing well so far. –Juliancolton | Talk 01:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

My day

You definitely made it : )

Not sure what I may have done, but thank you. Anytime I receive such positive commendations, they're definitely appreciated : )

And this one is quite special!

Thanks again : ) - jc37 10:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

You deserve it. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Pssst

I tumbled upon an ArbCom thing, I forget how, but I found some little errors, spelling, grammar, missing words (without which the sentences made no sense), etc. I edited the page to fix them, but I hope that is okay, I know I'm not a clerk or anything, but you know how I am with spelling and grammar and such. I hope nobody will get mad at me for it! Ariel♥Gold 13:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

If it's obvious things like that, no one should care. Let me know if they say anything. Thanks for helping Lady Ariel! How you been? I'm ok. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm glad you're back. :) I'm having kind of a rough patch of life lately, but we'll see how things go. ~*Big Ariel Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold 13:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
How so? Contact me, I'll help. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
You've got email, if you can look into that asap. ;) Ariel♥Gold 22:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sick of this wikilawyering

I might have overreacted in this discussion [54] but I think that baseless accusations like this one have to stop if we want to have a honest discussion. Can you please take a look into these accusations of canvasing. What really bothers me is that even after I made it clear that's not "canvasing" and even the guy whose email was made public said that is not canvasing the guy still insist it is. If you deem right to punish me too that's fine, but please take a look into these accusations. Thanks! man with one red shoe 19:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Rlevse, would you warn man with one red shoe for his continued personal attacks and harassment? I think Taivo's conduct is beyond the policy and shoe' harassment is intolerable.--Caspian blue 19:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
See my final warning on talk evidence and talk workshop pages. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Question

Why I'm being lump togeter in this group? [55] [56]. I'm in the military stationed in Japan, I have never used or being associated with this IP sharing group. I have never engaged or being accused of edit warring or any incivility. On what basis I'm being lump in this group? Bravehartbear (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

The diff right after the entry on you is pretty convincing — Rlevse • Talk • 01:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Not sure

Which language to thank you for the unexpected honour. Horosho, terima kasih, dank u, or what, and I had just signed off for a short break too. cheers/sampai nanti/buenas dios (ok I am very busy and very confused - that is for sure) SatuSuro 01:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Those all do quite nicely. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you...

Just wondered if this is anyone we know. Cheers! J.delanoygabsadds 02:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Macedonia 2 and "nationalists"

I just saw that a party added in his evidence a bit about "the main argument put forward by the Greek nationalist side". I understand that this case tests the nerves of most of us and many already crossed the line or are about to. While I was repeatedly a target, I didn't ask for any help and certainly I didn't ask for anyone to "shut up" or be banned. But this time, I think that something has to be done. The ethnic factions strategy that some parties follow ("bad X nationalists" vs "good others"), is immature ("I don't like the truth/the argument, you're a nationalist"), offensive and counter-productive. I'm asking for the removal of every reference (in the form of a direct insult) to "nationalist X". I would ask the parties to do it by themselves, but I'm positive they wouldn't listen. If you find the time, please do so. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 11:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Gracious Thanks

Thank you for your declaration of JodyB day! What a wonderful surprise. I wish I had so many more hours to work here but when I do come by I am thankful for such a nice greeting. I hope you will enjoy a wonderful day yourself. JodyB talk 00:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Did you know about the ANI thread?

Rlevse, I saw the action on your talk page today. When I happened to look at ANI just now, I saw this thread. It appears you were not notified and I want to make sure you knew. I'll comment there. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Rlevse, you were the one who redacted part of Donaldio's block-log summary? Well done! -- Noroton (talk) 05:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes I was. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

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Abd and JzG

I see that it's ready to close. I broke my computer, which is sent in to be fixed at the moment. Hersfold, the other clerk on the case, still appears to be unavailable, as well. However, I can close the case between my classes at my university's library today. Hopefully, I can get it done by 2:30 PM (Eastern Time Zone). Just giving a heads up that it will be done, and sorry about the wait. Good day, hmwithτ 13:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

NP — Rlevse • Talk • 16:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

~*Ding*~

You've got mail! Ariel♥Gold 15:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Block logs

Hello, from reading a discussion at User:Donadio's talk page, I see that you removed something from his block log. Although his story and mine are not precisely the same, they are close: During the time when one of my other stalkers was active, I contacted the admin Tiptotey.. or something, I forget how to spell it.. Anyway, I contacted him asking for a block, with a diff as evidence. He had an itchy trigger finger unfortunately, and accidentally blocked me instead. He of course quickly undid his action, but I was wondering if it would be at all possible to do something similar for me, less someone read it wrong or something in the future.— Dædαlus Contribs 21:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Your case is a little different, Tiptoety's entry clearly says it was a mistake and there's nothing offensive other than a mistake being made. In Donadio's case, you can't separate the block entry from the summary without oversighting it. I'll ask for more input though. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your time.— Dædαlus Contribs 23:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

What is this about?

“Greg L is prohibited from reversion of changes which are principally stylistic, except where all style elements are prescribed in the applicable style guideline.”

Since when have I edit warred on anything related to style? The only edit wars I’ve been part of have all be substance. Even when I was battling on WT:MOSNUM over the IEC prefixes (“mebibyte” v.s. “megabyte”), I wasn’t edit warring on individual articles. Where is the basis for this restriction? Greg L (talk) 23:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Date_delinking/Evidence#Greg_L looks like the Manual of Style to me. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

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Findings of fact

Please see several factual objections against your "Findings of Fact" in the Macedonia case, on the PD talk page. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for revising some of your findings. Still, I feel I must request some more clarifications [57]. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rlevse, I've also posted a reply with factual objections here and would appreciate if you had some time to read it. Thanks. --Avg (talk) 22:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Coming back to this, there are (at least) three issues that I feel need refactoring: 1) I have never been implicated in any dispute outside Macedonia 2) I have never called Greece666 "Albanian" and 3)repeatedly restoring controversial edits was officially considered vandalism until a couple of weeks ago, this is why I used the word. Again, please see my detailed reply in the link above.--Avg (talk) 23:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
1) The all refers to Macedonia or things directly related thereto 2) I cut "Albanian" 3) I'm not quite getting your point here. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if you might be able to take a look at this proposal and let me know what you think? -- ChrisO (talk) 00:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

One more request (on behalf of J.delanoy this time) - could you please give some feedback on his request at Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2/Proposed decision#Temporary injunction? -- ChrisO (talk) 08:18, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Responded. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

And by the way, are your warnings still in force? I don't think we should be expected to put up with this. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

He used your own phrase so this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I, nor did anyone, block you over it, so I'm not blocking him either. Consider yourself warned and I'll warn him. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
How about not just looking at "phrases", but at what they were used to refer to? There is a difference between the Penguineater troll on the one hand, and User:Kafka Liz on the other, you know. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd certainly like to think so. :/ Kafka Liz (talk) 10:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Medal of Honor lists

Thanks for the 2 new lists of MOH recipients for the Naval Acadmey and Military Academy. I added them to the template.--Kumioko (talk) 13:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I added them here Template:Medal of Honor recipients--Kumioko (talk) 23:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Thx

I needed that. --KP Botany (talk) 01:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem. It was well deserved. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Reply to you comments on my talk page

Hi Rlevse. I have copied below your edit on my talk page and my replies that are there also. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 11:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

................................

Malcolm: I've looked at some incidents you were involved in and I'm seeing a pattern. If someone brings up an issue you often respond by attacking that person instead of addressing the issue. Let me point o ut that an admin merely trying to work to resolve a situation is not "involved". Warning you does not make an admin involved. You also seem to reject advice and have a disdain for arbcom, which is your right but I assure arbcom is not the big evil you think it is. Terms like "whitewash", and "picks favorites" and the like show that you appear to be here to be adversarial rather than build the encyclopedia. Just in the last six weeks or so you've been blocked 5 times. It's in your own best interest to cease the behaviors that cause this. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:47, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Rlevse, thank you for your comments on my talk page, which I understand to be well intentioned.
You wrote "You also seem to reject advice." I understand this to mean that that I disregard threats of sanctions.
You wrote "I assure arbcom is not the big evil you think it is." I never used the word "evil." What I said is that I think the arbcom decision was a mistake, and that it will do no good. On the other hand, despite my doubts, I certainly hope that it does improve the editing situation in I/P articles.
You wrote "an admin merely trying to work to resolve a situation is not "involved"." Rlevse, the administrator who blocked me, blocked me for the content of an edit that he thought insulted him personally. In my view that is a very involved (and angry) administrator.
You wrote "It's in your own best interest to cease the behaviors that cause this." I behaved in the way I considered rational and ethical in the context of the situation. I am sorry that we see things so differently. In my editing of WP I have done only what I consider the best for WP, and consider that an obligation. I also understand that some WP users, including administrators, do not agree with me.
If you think any of my views on these things need further clarification, please ask.
Malcolm Schosha (talk) 11:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Round about request from EveryDayJoe45

EveryDayJoe45 has approached me about, essentially, wanting to vanishing. He had originally approached Nlu about it on the 19th.

EveryDayJoe45 has also blanked his user and user talk pages on the 19th, pulled his name from 4 projects, and left one other good bye note. The note on my talk page is the only edit he's made since the blankings.

IIUC, RTV needs to go through a Bureau not an Admin. And I'm almost reading EDJ's request as one to lock him out entirely. I'm not 100% on that though.

I've responded to EDJ on my talk and let him know I'm punting this to you.

- J Greb (talk) 22:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

See WP:RTV and determine if he's in compliance with RTV. You only need a crat for the rename part. Appears he's done part but not all the steps. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:10, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for that piece of information on my talk page. I will try to keep a level head with this guy; it seems like English isn't his first language, and that's probably why he called Coren an idiot. (lack of vocabulary) blurredpeace ☮ 01:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Desysopping proposals and Wikipedia:Five pillars

I think these are a big mistake. WP:NPOV is a core principle of wikipedia. Consensus and edit-warring are not. There was simply no way of enforcing this principle by adhering to these sub-policies. That's a big problem with our encyclopedia, but it is no solution to impose such drastic measures like this. I agree there should be admonishment for the incivility, but your proposed topic ban and desysop proposals against FPAS does nothing but punish a top-quality user for caring more about WP:NPOV, WP:NOT and WP:IAR than WP:EW and the twisted results produced by following WP:CONSENSUS at such a local level. Both users were following the principle outlined at WP:CLUE to make the encyclopedia better; they committed some other sins in the stressful process, but we're all human. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 08:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Working in a hot area is not a pass. ChrisO was warned several times on very similar issues. FutPerf has been talked to several times about his rude behavior and yet still thinks it's okay to insult other users. I've worked in ethnic wars myself and I know the pressures and being repeatedly rude to others is simply not necessary and is counterproductive. If both of them hadn't been warned multiple times over this and shown long term patterns in this regard I'd agree with you. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, you don't wear ermine coat in Amazonia, and you don't run about with a loin cloth in Lappland. He's one of the few admins working in the area, and now and then has gotten a bit like his environment. So a bunch of uncivil diffs have been sieved out of his long contribution history; it's unreasonable to expect saintly patience from normal humans. He's just an admin! I'm thinking more about all the good he's tried to do rather than focusing on a few bad slips made along the way. If the Five pillars are really the Five pillars, then surely ArbCom should be seeking to make the lives of such users easier, not humiliating and castrating them. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:07, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Many admins work in the hot areas of wiki and don't react like he does. Are you saying working in a wiki hot zone is a pass? And remember, I've been there myself, so I know the pressures. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Rlevse, I notice you still haven't reacted to most of my factual objections to your "findings of fact". Given the seriousness of some of the accusations, don't you think I deserve at least a comment? Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
I assume you're talking about those first 6 points, I'll post a recap now. — Rlevse • Talk • 16:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes, and the follow-up I posted right underneath them, please. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Rlevse, Future has been relentlessly harassed by socks and some editors during the ArbCom case which include outing. Could you consider about the matter as well in the proposed remedies? --Caspian blue 16:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
I can certainly attest to that - I've had to clean up some of the outing harassment. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm unclear about a couple of the things that you have posted in this case. Could you possibly take a look at the comments [58] here and clarify these points? -- ChrisO (talk) 21:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

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List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America)

Done with dashes. I still have questions about a couple formatting and sourcing things, so stay tuned. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:39, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, BTW, we hate 2-column refs there. :-) — Rlevse • Talk • 22:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry :) Dabomb87 (talk) 22:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Happy Gurch's Day

Please give this to someone else. You already tried to give me one before and I said no. I already have a day. Gurch (talk) 00:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't recall the first time and I'd really like you to have it. You can delete from your talk page if you like but I'd like to leave the day assigned to you on my listings. You deserve it. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Meh, if you say so. (Why is it I always seem to receive these things following long periods of inactivity?) Gurch (talk) 00:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Question

Why aren't you a steward? -Porchcrop (talk|contributions) 03:07, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

HeHe. Should I be? — Rlevse • Talk • 03:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Because stewards are fail. So are administrators, for that matter. Gurch (talk) 05:24, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I honestly don't know how stewards and administrators are fail. Yep, you can become one, Mr. Rlevse, you get extra tools when you are one. (You can become one by seeing meta:Stewards.) -Porchcrop (talk|contributions) 05:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Macedonia 2

Hello Rlevse. Regarding proposals, you might want to read this. If you have any questions, let me know :) SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 16:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I saw it, and the Responses to SQRT5P1D2 section below it and your admitted prior IP editing and your post on Coren's and Kirill's pages. — Rlevse • Talk • 17:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. My section was updated, that's why I left you a message. I also believe that Coren and Kirill should read it, as there are various bits and pieces here and there. They might have missed something.
In the FoF I read "SQRT5P1D2 is a Macedonia-focused single-purposed account" and that my "involvement with Wikipedia has been almost entirely been focused on editing a handful of Macedonia-related articles". A single purpose account (WP:SPA) "is a user account that edits either a single article, a group of related articles, or performs edits to a group of unrelated articles in the same manner on Wikipedia" and this is not the case (even excluding my previous IP contributions; for the record, many parties started as IP editors). Since more than 70% of the articles I've edited as a registered user (80% if you count recent edits), have nothing to do with Macedonia, this is unjustifiable.
Meatpuppeting means to recruit others editors to join a discussion on behalf of or as proxy for another editor. This has not occured in the one (1) neutral public message I sent. I condemned nationalism (requesting "no sarissas, the referee will show you a red card"; that means "be rational and leave nationalism outside of the field", as sarissas were weapons that ancient Macedonians took pride in). I also wrote that ChrisO's actions were not made "according to the regulations on neutrality and naming by using credible sources, such as academic ones". Blog and forum posts from others, with nationalistic overtones like "Macedonia is ours" added, have nothing to do with me or ChrisO. Nobody is responsible for what others do or may do, as Wikipedia is not isolated from the rest of the Internet.
I believe that the proposals need further examination, because they lead to wrong conclusions. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Harej Day

Thank you for the holiday, but how did I get the distinction? —harej 01:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I've seen you help a lot of users and you don't cause problems that I know of. You're a good contributor too. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Typo

At Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Macedonia_2/Proposed_decision#Disputed_article_movement.2Frenaming_injunction_extension, you duplicated the word "comes". I would have just removed an instance myself, but I am not certain if you were intending to write one thing, and then reconsidered. Also, when you say "After the case closes", I assume that you meant at the conclusion of whatever process is used to end the dispute of the name of the country. If so, you may want to clarify that you do not mean the conclusion of the arbitration case. Just a suggestion. J.delanoygabsadds 03:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Tks, I'll take care of it. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Do you have history with Mattise? Or does one of your best friends???

  • Aren't you an active arb on the Mattisse thing? Your comments are very far from objective. Is there any reason why you should recuse...? Ling.Nut (talk) 07:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I have no memory of any conflicts with Matisse and I, so I see no reason to recuse. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
You've already declared yourself to be a "hanging judge" in this instance... which seems both hasty and over-punitive. But I don't suppose there's anything I can do. Ling.Nut (talk) 13:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'm sorry you disagree, the actual PD isn't up yet. Thanks for the input. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to ping me anytime you're feeling like you're enjoying Wikipedia a little too much. I'll find some way or other to rain on your parade.. Later! Ling.Nut (talk) 14:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to take that. — Rlevse • Talk • 14:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
It's just Ling's way of expressing his appreciation for all that you do here on Wikipedia ;) Dabomb87 (talk) 14:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

(undent) Dabomb87's translation is essentially correct. I admit that my usual role is as a fault-finder, complainer, gadfly, etc. I do not mean to cause personal animosity, and do in fact appreciate many of the people I harass. Having said that, I am quite likely to harass you again in the future. Salt and pepper to taste with smiley face and/or winky emoticons. Ling.Nut (talk) 15:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

"since 2001"

I edited only infrequently, and usually as an IP address, from late 2001 until January 2006. I had previously had on my userpage a bit of info about my IP edits, but I was advised to take it down since I couldn't "prove" it was me. (And none of it's very brag-worthy other than the fact that it allows me to claim I was here so early on. e.g. I technically created Autism, but all I did was add a link to someone else's web page.) Soap Talk/Contributions 21:18, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Hey, all my little tags are back. Thank you. :-) SlimVirgin talk|contribs 11:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Wording

Sorry for being a stickler for details, but after you reworded your incivility FoF and removed the "ethnic groups", there's still the phrase "....and their backgrounds" in the "admonishment" remedy. This bit about "backgrounds" still reeks of a claim of racism, and as such is a very serious allegation against my character, which I consider as bordering on defamatory. It is also quite out of line with my actual record in the field – even you will hardly be able to deny that a large part of my two and half years of success in working on Balkans topics is owed to my ability of establishing good rapport with editors from all the nationalities involved.

Can you please redact that too? The other thing I have repeatedly asked you to clarify, and to which you haven't yet responded, is why the desysoping proposal still contains the claim of "abused his admin bit". For all I can see, no such event is currently cited. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I just saw this. I'll respond in more detail later tonight. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Real life is unfortunately delaying this. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Took out "and their backgrounds". I'd left it in because your the repteated comments about Bulgaria; that term is considered offensive and derogatory by many. I guess "political entity" could be used but eh. As for the "abused his admin bit" part, I did get sidetracked before on answering that one. What prompted that being included was the block of Sadbuttrue92, the where CHL warned you afterwards. I've asked for other arbs' input on leaving that in. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the clarification. I can of course understand that you may want a reference to that incident there, but then maybe it would be better if the wording was more specific as to the kind of incident referred to (and perhaps to its frequency). Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I've linked that phrase to the FoF. — Rlevse • Talk • 19:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Three last minute diffs

I have added one last thing to the PD's talk page [59]. Do you think it's just fine where it is, or should I move it to the evidence page for better consideration? Sorry for the last minute additions but I believe these diffs prove exactly the point I was trying to make. --Radjenef (talk) 00:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

All evidence should go on the evidence page. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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Appreciation

Hey, thank you -- I appreciate the "happy your day" notice. I've been getting so many trolls recently, and feeling so damn burned-out, it was a real pleasure. All the best, Antandrus (talk) 01:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

SlimVirgin

Yes, I know, so I stayed this time for about 6 months and will wait now till she is desysoped again. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 02:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Kim, please be reasonable. Why would someone wait for 6 months till someone else is desysoped? I really suggest you concentrate your time on productive things. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 04:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
If you look at my activity here, you will see that I waited approximately 2.5 years before, from mid 2006 till December 2008. I can wait again. I have tried addressing the harassment that I received from her, but that was not taken serious. As long as ArbCom's refuse to look at the actually disputes and comes with rough indiscriminate sweeps ignoring the actuall issues like stonewalling, baiting, harassement, OWN etc, why bother. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 11:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Caspian blue

Caspian blue insult me like that I am using socks at Cherry blossom.[60] Please, check me. Sorry I bother you, again.--Bukubku (talk) 15:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I sent you my IP by e-mail. Please check.--Bukubku (talk) 11:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I told you CUs are not done to prove innocence. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
That's sad. However, my Internet access provider is not the one which Caspin's claim of cherry blossom. You can see. I don't want you to say my inocence. However you can say the suspicion is unlikely. Please.--Bukubku (talk) 13:24, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Bukubku

Hello, Rlevse, since Bukubku has requested for unbanning his indefinite topic-ban by admin Future to AN, I commented about the idea. I also request Checkuser on him and a sock Mesh Ip that may be Bukubku's sock. Bukubku says that is a good idea, so I'm requesting you to look into the account. Further information is available to

Thanks.--Caspian blue 15:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

To Bukubku, I have valid evidences that meet the requirement to checkuer on you unlike your bogus accusation against me as socks of Wikimachine (talk · contribs). If I just accused you of sockpuppeter without any evidence, that would be insults. However I requested to checkuer on you with evidence unlike you. That has nothing to do with "insults". However, since you gave me various insults without any evidence, you have not apologized to me at all. --Caspian blue 15:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Rejecting "Locus of dispute" as written

In the "Tang Dynasty" ArbCom case, the "locus of dispute" factfinding should be rejected as written.

A new, better locus of dispute should be adduced.

I write to encourage you to re-visit this because the first and last sentences are fundamentally flawed.

NO to 1st sentence. The case originated when Teeninvestor rejected any and all inquiry relating to WP:V, WP:Burden and WP:RSUE, alleging vandalism and disruptive editing instead. This persistent confrontational strategy is endorsed and encouraged by those voting in support Newyorkbrad's locus of dispute. These votes effectively disregard Tenmei's locus, Teeninvestor's locus and, most importantly, Teeninvestor's restatment at Summarizing "more or less the entire dispute". This obfuscation marginalizes even the attempt to pursue a strategy of collaborative editing; and for this very practical reason, I could not disagree more with this sentence

NO to 3rd sentence. In the specific context of this case, it is procedurally unsound to adopt the expanded scope proposed by Teeninvestor and Caspian blue. One of the few areas of agreement acknowledged the initially limited focus of our case when it was opened. I could not disagree more with this sentence.

In support, I highlight a crucial fulcrum or pivot between "A" and "B" below:

"We appear to confront a small scale replica of what has occurred in other, wider disputes ... informed by a four-prong examination at each and every point of this escalating drama:
  • 1. "What is the quality of the sources used by both sides in the dispute?
  • 2. "What is the consensus of scholars in the field; and does the source reflect that consensus?
  • 3. "Are the sources actually supporting the assertions for which they are cited?
  • 4. "Are unsourced assertions being used?
"As others will know better than me, these four points are, unsurprisingly, at the center of most protracted disputes and are all violations of our core content policies, e.g., verifiability, no original research and neutrality."
"This guy is out of control, man." [emphasis added]

In this instance, Tenmei's paraphrase of Coren's moderating analysis was posted on the talk pages of all arguably interested participants at Talk:Inner Asia during the Tang Dynasty. The "out of control" accusatory phrasing was repeated in diffs on the talk pages of PericlesofAthens and Arilang1234. This suggests a deliberate strategy rather than a merely transient outburst.

In these pivotal diffs, Teeninvestor cannot feign to have misunderstood my writing. These are plainly Coren's paraphrased words; and yet, this modest effort to frame collaborative editing issues was immediately converted into a contrived hostile encounter. This destructive pattern is reflected ad nauseam on the evidence and workshop pages. Despite the cumulative attacks, the edit history confirms my participation focused on issues, but this outcome tells me clearly that I was wrong to take the high road.

In voting to support this awkward "spin", ArbCom's counter-intuitive judgment effectively affirms that the contributions of Teeninvestor and Caspian blue were above reproach and I was not.

This alchemy is difficult to digest. ArbCom rewards what is bad and denigrates what is good. --Tenmei (talk) 19:11, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

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my application

Sherryl also think I need more time. so I should have more time and more contributions. Sorry, I bothered you. Aside from my topic ban. Please read my mail, and if you have questions, please ask me. thank you--Bukubku (talk) 16:31, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


Guido

If you get a chance, take a look at this. Cool Hand Luke 22:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU for giving us a rest from GdB.[61] He had begun applying his talents at Global warming and related articles, accusing those who dared disagree with his edits of "blind reverting" and such. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 00:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

My day

You are such a sweetie :) Shell babelfish 13:35, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Aw shucks. — Rlevse • Talk • 14:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Is Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Date delinking/Proposed decision#Implementation notes meant to say that the following remedy passed?

1) Mass date delinking is restricted for six months to changes prescribed in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers), and may only occur at times when the page is not in a disputed state.

Because I count no support votes, 7 oppose, and 2 abstain. --Jc3s5h (talk) 20:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Happy Theleftorium's Day!

That's so nice of you, thanks a bunch! I really appreciate it! :) TheLeftorium 13:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Featured topic for Medal of Honor

Hello again, I am creating a featured topic for the Medal of Honor but I have never done one before and could use some advice. Could you take a look and let me know if it looks ok before I submit it to be featured? I created a rough version in a sandbox under my user name with several articles and lists I have found already. Since there are at least a dozen lists (not all featured yet but I am working on it with help from others) and hundreds of articles I thought this would be a good topic. Here is a link to it Featured topic for Medal of Honor.--Kumioko (talk) 14:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I only have one FT to my credit, the USNA alumni lists, so I'd suggest you ask for input at WT:FTC. For yours, there are thousands of MOH recipients so trying to include articles on recipients would be near impossible to be comprehensive without somehow limiting scope. Getting the whole set of lists of recipients by war to FL status would be awesome, though I recall many recipients don't have articles. I recall I was one of the people that helped save the MOH article from a FAR way back when. RIght now you have a mix of battle, list, and recipient articles. I'd say focus more so your breadth is not so wide, like the full set of lists by war, plus the two alum lists. But again, I only have one FT to my credit, so ask for more input. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Great thanks--Kumioko (talk) 02:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for keeping an eye on Portal:Contents/Portals and its associated talk page for vandalism and spam, much appreciated. Cirt (talk) 21:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Np. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
That page could probably be indef semi-protected, in my opinion. –Juliancolton | Talk 23:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Sorry to bother you. I believe two editors who are uninvolved in the ADHD articles and scuro are going to try and hijack the arbcom to attack me. I have opened up an RfC here.

--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 03:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I dub thee...

Carc's name is easy. Mine imminently unpronounceable ;-) — Rlevse • Talk •

I'd pronounce it [əɺɛvs] in a pinch.  :-) — Coren (talk) 14:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I pronounce it R-l-e-v-s-e.  iMatthew :  Chat  (Review Me) 15:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
But then you'd need to have a melody to go with it! o/~ R - l - e - v - s - e Find out what it means to me! o/~ — Coren (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I tend to say "ARE-lev-ezz". And yes, I know I'm adding a vowel that's not really there. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 15:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

List of United States Military Academy alumni (academics)

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TOV

Hi, There's a TOV against Barack Obama being discussed here on ANI. I'd be glad to contact the FBI if someone (hint) runs a CU. I feel these always need to be reported and let law enforcement figure it out. Toddst1 (talk) 21:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

On It. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I've reported it. Yes, they were very interested. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:17, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
The Real Life Barnstar
For your great work in reporting a threat of violence to authorities today. In my opinion, that is the most important work we can do here. Kudos! Toddst1 (talk) 22:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thanks, and no problem, and yes, it's very important. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I suspect you already have something like this in your toolbox, but feel free to plagiarize. Toddst1 (talk) 22:42, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually no I don't, I called them. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which succeeded with 56 in support, 12 in opposition and 3 neutral votes. I am truly honored by the trust that the community has placed in me. Whether you supported me, opposed me, or if you only posted questions or commented om my RfA, I thank you for your input and I will be looking at the reasons that people opposed me so I can improve in those areas :). If you ever need anything please feel free to ask me and I would be happy to help you :). All the Best, Mifter (talk)

Mifter (talk) 23:51, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

All I did was close it ;-) — Rlevse • Talk • 23:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Obama threat

I don't think Asdfzxcvqwerty (talk · contribs) is new to Wikipedia, but is a person who has been here several times before. Take a look at the deleted and non-deleted contributions of !1029qpwoalskzmxn (talk · contribs). His IP (76.69.90.142 (talk · contribs)) has similar edits as well as the account Studentsrulendestroywiki (talk · contribs). It might be worth comparing to the IP you reported. --auburnpilot talk 01:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

tks for the tips. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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WP:FLCs

Hey. I'll see what I can do. As it happens, I have two FLCs running as well. Nice to be back actually improving Wikipedia! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:35, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Edward "Porky" Cragg and Ernest T Cragg articles

Good afternoon Rlevse

Thank you for your comments about the two articles. I have been reading up on proper citations and want to revise both articles.

With respect to the "Porky" article" I do have some questions.

  • I have a two-page type written biography which I copied at the The US Army Center of Military History down at Ft McNair here in DC. Since it is not available online anywhere, how should I reference it in a way that is verifiable?
  • Aabout 10 years before he died I sat my dad down with both of my sons with a video camera and conducted/recorded a 75 minute oral history with him. What would be an appropriate way to reference that interview.

Those two references are my primary sources for information about "Porky" during his time before joining the 80th Tactical Fighter Squadron and for the "comment" column on his aerial victory table.

I look forward to hearing from you

ed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecragg (talk • contribs) 20:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Since the first one is only two pages, I'd just scan them into wikicommons (make a same named account there); then you can transcribe them to wikisource. If these are Army docs, they'd be public domain. I'll ask about the video thing. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Good Afternoon

A related question - I am starting to inline cite the articles. I have not been able to find a template to easily make ibid. and op cit footnotes. Does such an animal exist?

ed

Ecragg (talk) 19:46, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The easiest way to do refs is to go to your preferences tab, gadgets tab, under "editing gadgets", turn on reftools. Then when in edit mode you'll see a menu. For books, click books, newspapers click news, web pages click web etc. For a FA that used lots of book cites (in "hybrid" mode, but there are other ways) see William D. Boyce. Browse through WP:FA to see other other FAs that used books. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Good Morning again. Thanks for the instructions. I have spent some time in line citing the first couple of paragraphs in Ernest T. Cragg If you have time would you look at it? My concern is that I might be overdoing it.

ed Ecragg (talk) 15:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

You are not overdoing it. In fact, try to have one ref per paragraph. Refs go after punctuation (I fixed several). Format of refs 6 and 7 is wrong. When done, work on the intro/lead. It should be a summary of the article and if well done will need few, if any, refs. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

My day

Thank you! I'm not sure just what I did to deserve it! *Dan T.* (talk) 00:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

...for fixing it. Much appreciated. Kafka Liz (talk) 01:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Moreschi/Folantin

Hi. User:Moreschi and User:Folantin are the same person. A CHECKUSER will prove that; of course, they may come up with stories of the kind of one being the husband or wife of the other etc. Regards. 91.121.82.48 (talk) 06:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Got any evidence. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
It's not just that they're always editing the same articles. It's also that when Moreschi says something/nominates an article for deletion/makes a statement in an ArbCom case etc, Folantin is almost always there to chime in with "Yeah, what he said!". If you look at the articles that Moreschi has nominated for deletion, there's almost always a Folantin "delete" vote. 91.121.82.48 (talk) 18:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
LOL Judging by the French IP, I think I can guess which "husband and wife" (so to speak) team this is. No, they don't have any evidence, since none exists. --Folantin (talk) 17:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to note that Moreschi has apparently been very, very thorough in his scheming. Consider that his first edits as his sock were eight days before those of his main account. He was also clever enough to maintain fairly steady editing patterns from both accounts for more than three years without attracting attention to either of them. I have never seen anyone with his skill in separating writing style, diction, interests, and the like enough to throw potential whistle-blowers off his track for such a long time. Clearly, he and his sockfarm should be blocked immediately, as it can't be long until this evil genius unleashes his master plan. </sarcasm> J.delanoygabsadds 18:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
No, it's a fair cop. The next stage in my master plan was to semi-retire my admin sock account (Moreschi) in 2009 and keep my non-admin account going so I could destroy Wikipedia from the inside using my evil powers such as, er, rollback. But now I've been rumbled. --Folantin (talk) 18:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I am Folantin. And Moreschi. And Jimbo Wales is our wife. Checkuser will reveal this as shocking fact! --dab (𒁳) 08:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

  • This whole thread is comprised of my soks; I have two steward accounts, three 'crat accounts, and a quarter of the AC seats. No CUs will confirm this because I told them not to. I have the God-King tied up in a closet. I can use any IP I like; this was on 0.0.0.0 — Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm Spartacus. --Folantin (talk) 09:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Jack, I know for a fact that only I have access to 256.256.256.256. Oh, and I'm actually Jacob Peters. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 09:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
  • And, yes, I can use invalid IPs, too; see above. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Miliary Academy Alumni pages

I wanted to let you know that I created a new topic for the Medal of Honor and added the 2 Alumni (Military academy and Naval academy) as lists in it.--Kumioko (talk) 13:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Date delinking Implementation notes errors

Hi Rleves. Please see my post here. Thanks, Paul August ☎ 20:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixing now. Many things have changed since I did that and yes I may have goofed a few. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Replied to you

Just wanted to let you know that I've replied to your (to me, at least) rather startling comment on my talk page with a question I'd like you to answer if you could. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 23:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Replied again, just so you know. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 09:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey Rlevse

I just wanted to let you know I love your userbox that says you speak American, not English. :) Do you have any theories as to why there are so many Brits editing Wikipedia? Timmeh!(review me) 20:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

They do speak English, you know, and colonized a huge part of the world. ;-) Now, if they'd only learn to spell correctly ;-) — Rlevse • Talk • 21:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
But America's better than the rest of the world, or at least it is now that Bush is gone. :P And even back then, there were still some of them that liked us, regardless of our spelling differences. :) Timmeh!(review me) 22:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Scnote

I got tired of the way {{cnote}} looks and created {{scnote}}. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 20:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Documentation updated— difference between cnote and scnote near the bottom of the page.
Interesting. Do you want to update the Eagle list? — Rlevse • Talk • 01:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Teach your grandma to suck eggs. Done, and List of recipients of the Silver Buffalo Award‎. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 01:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
U iz sew fun e. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Question re: Macedonia 2

Hi Rlevse,

I'm not sure you're paying much attention to the talk page of the Macedonia 2 decision, but even if you are I'm sure it's easy to lose track of things in the flood of posts to that page. So I'd like to ask you to take a look at the question I ask about admin involvement in this section: Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Macedonia_2/Proposed_decision#Am_I_.22involved.22.3F. Thanks. --Akhilleus (talk) 13:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I watching it alright. And yes, it's hard to keep up with all that's going on there. Will respond to that question. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your response, I appreciate it. I have a few concerns with the wording of the remedy; I'll try to articulate them on the Macedonia 2 talk page later, when I'm less sleepy. --Akhilleus (talk) 01:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

So?

I left a response to you on my talk page. So, I am wondering, is there going to be "balance" in the "warnings" here, and is WP:TALK going to be followed, or not? 6SJ7 (talk) 17:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. I have archived my talk page, including the discussion in question, and am on what the handy template calls a "semi-wikibreak", whatever that is. Ironically, I was trying to support what the ArbCom did, a mistake I'll try not to make again. All it got me were personal attacks on the proposed decision/talk page, and I don't see the attacking admins (plural) getting any warnings. I've learned my lesson. 6SJ7 (talk) 00:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I-P issues at ARBMAC2

G'day, Rlevse. Sorry to bug you, but we're getting some rather off-topic tit-for-tat discussion related (as far as I can tell) to Israel-Palestine disputes at the talk page for the proposed decision, starting here and continuing here (the user says he's not brought up any such issues, which may be true, but in the same edit discusses the issue with Tarc). If you're agreeable, I'd like to see this nipped in the bud, perhaps by removing those comments (and mine, since it wouldn't make sense) and/or instructing people not to bring in other disputes? Obviously, no amount of "clerking" I might theoretically try to do could be viewed as neutral, so I think I've done all I can here. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 05:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Much obliged. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 14:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I apologize for going off-tangent Rlevse, but it may be an elephant in the room that needs acknowledging. FPaS and ChrisO were 2 of the 3 who did the legwork for the CAMERA case, and a certain segment of the editor population still seethes over it. Civility should always be one of our primary goals here, and I said as much in a statement for the ScienceApologist case, but there is a problem with how we, and admins, are able to deal with the patient, polite-on-the-surface wiki-lawyers during editing disputes. As more of these cases and decisions comes down, I am concerned about the future and the willingness of administrators to dive in to hot-button topics if they feel they are going to be out on a limb someday. Tarc (talk) 14:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: Happy Garden's Day!

Thank you very much Rlevse! It's a great honour for me... thanks! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 17:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Referees

So, how and when will the referee panel for the further Macedonia process be nominated? Should we start the discussion process on our own or would you prefer for us to wait with creating the process until the referees are in place to oversee it? Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing you're talking about Wikipedia:ARBMAC2#Establishing_consensus_on_names, if not, please advise. The opening of the discussion should ideally be done by the community, not arbcom. Arbcom will appoint the panel of uninvolved admins towards the end. The discussion could be in several forums but my personal suggestion is RFC. Whatever form it takes, if you want to initiate it, that'd be fine. I've put a note in my Outlook calendar to remind to seek out admins for the panel before the discussion closes. Wherever this discussion starts, please drop a link here. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, will do. I think we will probably need something a bit more structured than a single RfC, that's why I thought it would be maybe preferable to have the panel in action already to oversee the creation of the infrastructure (like in the Ireland case, I think), and that was also the opinion of some people on the PD talk page the other day. But I'll see what we can hammer out. Probably on some page in the tradition of good old "MOSMAC". Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Now at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:04, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
That's a good place too. I'll announce it at AN and to arbcom. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:51, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay. Actually, I already announced it at AN (just below the Arbcom conclusion notice), at the "regional conflicts" noticeboard, and at the Greece and Macedonia articles. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:04, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Cool. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

If you like, please check out {{Uw-1rrMac}}, a user warning template designed to enforce the topic-1RR, to see if it captures the intent of the ruling. We haven't yet worked out a tag template for the article talk pages, but I thought a user page tag might actually be more effective. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks okay to me as policy does say common name and term used by a country itself get preference. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:48, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I'm afraid I'm already finding a need for clarification of the decision here. The 1RR remedy as currently worded says that only those edits are exempt from 1RR where the editor is "enforcing a case where a binding #Stalemate resolution has been found". However, I'm pretty certain you didn't mean just those decisions reached by "stalemate resolution", but also those decisions that are based on existing project-wide consensus reached in some other way, right? For instance, the deprecation of abbreviated "FYROM" is something that we didn't need stalemate resolution for, it's always been consensus (so much so that you have even called for a mechanical blocking out of such edits through the Abuse Filter), so surely its manual enforcement by reverts should have the same exempt status? (It turns out that both I and a Greek editor would otherwise already be in violation of the rule, because we both – together! – reverted a bunch of tagteam IPs on Alexander sarcophagus, in confidence that we were enforcing existing consensus. Apologies if that was not what you meant, and please don't block the Greek guy for trying to be fair and reverting for "our" side.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I think that was a sound common sense way to handle it and interpret the ruling. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:53, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

RFAR/OA

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could you help please?

I was trying to close the thread down at wt:rfa.... could you please help with the technicals? — Ched :  ?  02:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

You already closed it. That should do it. — Rlevse • Talk • 03:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Skillful edit warrior

I'd like your advice, if possible, about where I should have gone with this 3rr report [62]. There's got to be a better way. Jd2718 (talk) 17:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I might have an idea.--Xenovatis (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Result at 3RR report. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:11, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Biased decision

It was completely unfair and biased that you should have been the admin responsible for banning me seeing as you were previously contacted by one member in the dispute and hence by definition personally involved, leaving aside your previous relatiohship with that user. I request that the ban be striken since you yourself have admited that to being unsure that it was a violation, which it wasn't.--Xenovatis (talk) 15:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
He stopped and reported it, you kept going, so it was not ufair. While it may or may have been 3RR, it was edit warring and hence sanctionable. — Rlevse • Talk • 19:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
That doesn't really answer the point about you being contacted by the editor befor the report was even made.--Xenovatis (talk) 19:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
And, come to that, how does one (1) edit make all the difference when all the other user did was game the 3RR? This is pretty thin.--Xenovatis (talk) 19:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
That's what admins are for... while the various channels do exist, there is nothing wrong with seeking out the advice/guidance of an uninvolved admin/crat for help. If that admin/crat then sees a problem, the fact that they were contacted does not negate their neutrality.---I'm Spartacus! NO! I'm Spartacus! 21:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Help

Hi. Can you please help me with Otto? See [63]. He insists on reverting me when I request clarification of the phrase "backyard musical", deleting the clarification request from the article. He also repeatedly deletes my linking of the phrase "baptize" in the article. I don't wish to edit war, but have suffered multiple reversals, and perhaps you can help. Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 14:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

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Re:Happy Horologium's Day

Thank you. It came at a very tough time for me, and was greatly appreciated. Horologium (talk) 04:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem, and you deserve it. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Happy Will Beback's Day

That was very kind. Thank you for the star and the day.   Will Beback  talk  05:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

What if...

What if we find non-free images on Commons, that really should only be at en:Wiki? Is there a bot or a template that will move them out of Commons but retain the image elsewhere? Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 18:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't know. Ask User:Kanonkas or User:B. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

USMA alumni lists

Just out of interest, how many more sublists do you have left? Dabomb87 (talk) 21:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at the main list, I'm not even half done with USMA, which is why I saved it for last. I intend to make as many sublists as nec to keep the main list to a reasonable size and then make the main list FL. This will keep me busy for awhile. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Happy NiciVampireHeart's Day!

I hate to use the phrase and I know it's a total cliché, but Oh My God! Thank you, that's so unexpected. I really appreciate it. :) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Naval FT

I'm sorry, but I reverted it once. I was bold and made this same change on a large number of featured topics and there has been absolutely no negative response from User:Arctic.gnome, the admin responsible for FTs, or anyone who helped promote those FTs. My change was not an attack on any of your work or meant to criticize the way you set it up; I just thought that placing the "list of" at the end was not necessary. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:30, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Emails

I had no idea that I was sending empty emails. How long has this been going on? Dabomb87 (talk) 23:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

At least twice. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:08, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


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small edit war on LTTE

Hi,
could you have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sri_Lanka_Reconciliation#re-revert_by_snowolf ? Thanks
Jasy jatere (talk) 08:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Magnus Manske's day

Hi Rlevse,

thanks for that award! Unfortunately, it conflicts with the other day named after me, by Jimbo himself no less. Disambiguation page? ;-)

Cheers, Magnus Manske (talk) 11:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

You deserve more than one! — Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Need help

Those are the accounts.

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jessica_Liao

I had an appeal but it was about giving me a second chance. I realize that wasn't the case. Now I am asking for permission to have a single legitimate account as I don't make vandalism or incivility.

Harionlad (talk) 21:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you help me? Any advice would be helpful. Harionlad (talk) 21:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not familiar much with this case. I have to find out what is going on. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone told me to go to ArbCom if I want to ask for an appeal of the ban. I asked two users already but they are probably busy since they didn't respond. So now I am asking you. You are my only hope. Harionlad (talk) 01:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Don't you have to go the Arbitration Committee to ask on my behalf for an appeal of my ban? Harionlad (talk) 01:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
So you admit you're a block-evading sock? — Rlevse • Talk • 02:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but I put on my user page that this is an alternative account. I don't have two accounts right now so I don't see the big deal why they are saying I am socking. Harionlad (talk) 03:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Because indef'd and banned users are not allowed to edit, not even with one account. You fail to mention that your appeal to BASC has already been rejected. You can reapply to edit again after one year. I have no choice but to block you and tag your account. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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Dabomb87 (talk) 13:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for appreciation of satire. Maybe I'll make more on occasion :-) Humor and satire are not really dead[citation needed]. Shadowmorph ^"^ 17:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Please delete user/disc pages; warn jayron/redpen/mufka

Hello rlevse, How do u pronounce that? What is the origin of that?
If you could please delete my page and page history, I'd be much obliged.

I requested speedy deletion on 1Apr for reason 1.6. jayron deleted it, then acted as if s/he did me a favour. I feel jayron shouldnt have been the one to delete it initially as s/he and I have negatively interacted in the past. Followups from jayron included an unneccesary block; followed by telling me to get a yahoo email so that I may contact wiki admins!

Wiki is all about anon editing : as such I didnt and wont get an email account in order to communicate as it is not required.

Since then jayron,redpen, mufka have been repeatedly editing my page. I blank my page they restore it. This has been happening since April, so for 3months now. I bet if I changed their pages they'd posting threats of "i'll report you" and/or "you will be banned". It is quite easy for me to get a new ip address but I dont think Ive done anything wrong, so I wont change my ip address.

If my pages needed to be restored /reverted, I definitely think those three arent the ones who should do it as they/I have a convoluted history.

If you could please delete my page and page history, I'd be much obliged.
If you could contact jayron, redpen, & mufka & ask that any problems they have they let an admin or arbitrator know, instread of making changes or posting to me. I'd like to edit wiki in peace Thanks. 173.79.58.33 (talk) 17:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Bangladesh Scouts.jpg

Please help me delete this-I keep tagging it, it keeps being removed. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 14:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

It's two different file formats, and that's allowed and it says it needs to be there for file attribution. — Rlevse • Talk • 14:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Macedonia RfC

Just to let you know that the centralised discussion for the Macedonia naming guidelines has now reached the "request for comment" phase. If you're interested, check out the RfC pages at 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I saw, I'm keeping an eye on it. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Can you please make a reply here? I think it would be good if an arbitrator weighed in on what you meant when you said that we (the referees) should disregard any proposals not grounded in policy. Specifically, who decides whether a proposal is within policy? J.delanoygabsadds 15:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I have formally requested clarification for this issue here. I do not dispute the fact that the referees are to "disregard any opinion which does not provide a clear and reasonable [policy] rationale". However, the issue of which proposals are to be brought forward to the community for discussion isn't exactly an "opinion" to be "disregarded". My understanding is that the disregarding of opinions is supposed to take place after the greater community discusses the issue, to remove comments that were simply votes or sentimental rationales. --Radjenef (talk) 17:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Rlevse, you might want to take a look at WP:AN/I#Ban J.delanoy for Vote Rigging. I think it needs to be dealt with before it gets out of hand. -- ChrisO (talk) 17:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Tks for the tip, Ohnoitsjamie closed it properly but I commented anyway. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with that. Predictable, I guess, but regrettable all the same. -- ChrisO (talk) 18:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
No problem at all. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

My note to where proposal G is: here — Rlevse • Talk • 18:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

By the way, with regard to your request for CU info, J.delanoy has posted elsewhere that he did ask a CU but no evidence of socking was found - however, the CU agreed that the account is plainly an SPA. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Macedonia

You might want/have to repeat the same thing you told Radjenef at the centralised discussion at his request for clarification. BalkanFever 17:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the tip. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Quartermaster Award (Boy Scouts of America)

Updated DYK query On June 27, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Quartermaster Award (Boy Scouts of America), which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wizardman 20:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XXII

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about Jossi's checkuser evidence

Your input would be welcome at User_talk:Jossi#Documentation_of_sockpuppet_investigation_-_where.27s_the_evidence.3F (with a side discussion here). It seems that people are complaining about lack of transparency about how those socks were linked to Jossi. I think that an explanation of the evidence would be good. --Enric Naval (talk) 09:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I can comment later today, but it'll be several hours from now. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Scouts etc

I know that you know a good deal about scouting and scouting related articles. I wonder if you would have anything to add to this discussion about reliability, neutrality etc.[64]--Slp1 (talk) 18:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedian of the Day

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Happy editing!

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thanks! — Rlevse • Talk • 00:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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