Talk:eBay

Services?

I am confused with this sentence

an online auction and shopping website in which people and businesses buy and sell goods and services worldwide.

As far as I know people do not sell or buy services on eBay. Or at least I have never seen such a thing done! Has anyone else seen services on eBay, I sure they are not sold on ebay but would like to check before doing anything! Inputdata (talk) 18:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually services are bought and sold - http://services.ebay.com/_W0QQfromZR12 Kaid (talk) 05:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

ebay provides good service to get and sell any product from or to the concern person. I think this is fantastic service from ebay.

Locked for editing...?

Why is this article locked for editing? (Or is it open for editing only for current and former eBay employees?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.23.57 (talk) 05:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

It's semi-protected to prevent vandalism from editors who are not, or very newly registered. Since you have chosen to remain anonymous, well, you cannot edit it. Now if you're willing to properly register yourself, then you can edit after 4 days. It's not an eBay conspiracy if that's what you're suggesting. However, if your goal is to criticize eBay's new policies, it may get reverted if you go to far from NPOV (Neutral Point of View). Mattnad (talk) 14:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

proper place to state eBay forcing all people in the UK to offer PayPal

So, from http://www2.ebay.com/aw/uk/200803211515302, eBay uses its auction site to force PayPal, which is an illegal monopoly action. Jpgordon removed it from the controversy & criticism section [1] saying "In what way is that either a controversy or a criticism?". Now I find Jpgordon knows this article well so I am assuming there's a better place to put this in the article. Any ideas??? William Ortiz (talk) 05:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Um, that first link in your post is broken, last I checked paypal was not mandatory for UK sellers though I agree that they certainly give preference to it. Plugwash (talk) 09:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

• Well, you put it in two places, and I just removed one of them. That should suffice. And I do ask again, in what way was the policy change either a controversy or a criticism? --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 15:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot the .html. It was http://www2.ebay.com/aw/uk/200803211515302.html Well it's a controversy because ebay is using their monopoloy to force everyonee to accept paypal, which they, own. They already have been forcing most people to use it. A lot of people are panicking in the USA because they fear this is going to happen there soon, too. Paypal itself is full of controversy, just googling "paypal" brings up lots of critical sites about it. William Ortiz (talk) 19:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

They aren't forcing anything. You choose to use their site, and you need to play by their rules. Just like McDonalds only offering you Coke products. They aren't a public service where you necessarily have some natural right to select your own payment provider. Sure, that would be ideal, but it is completely within their discretion to limit the options. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 21:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Further, it appears they are only requiring you offer PayPal as an option; they are not restricting the use of other payment providers. You need to provide reliable citations noting that this is somehow monopolistic in order to make your claims as such. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 21:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Find some reliable sources backing your claims -- not noise on chat boards and the like -- and such issues can be included. You already know this. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 20:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I only included the link from ebay stating the announcement. William Ortiz (talk) 21:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

eBay Australia to force Paypal as sole payment method.

I'm kinda suprised this hasn't been mentioned here yet. [2]

21st May, 2008: "All items listed for sale on eBay.com.au must offer PayPal as one of the payment methods. "

17th June, 2008:" All items appearing on eBay.com.au must be paid for using either:
• PayPal
• Visa/Mastercard (with transactions processed by PayPal)
• Pay on pick up (i.e. paid for when picking up the item)
No other payment methods will be accepted."

Naturally, this has created a bit of a stir. If eBay is proposing similar restrictions on it's UK website (and there are rumours that the Paypal only requirement will eventually be a global one), perhaps there should be some mention in the article (in the "controversies" section, or a sub-section of it's own?) Johnmc (talk) 07:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Yeah, we need to find some news articles on this so we can include it. eBay and PayPal also do false advertising falsely claiming PayPal as safe and safer than other payment methods when it is just to cover up how unsafe paypal is. There's a million websites on how paypal is unsafe, but they're not good as sources here. There's two news reports from TV but I only see them on youtube youtube dot com/watch?v=0DlLK7aS8PE youtube dot com/watch?v=KAlM0E-zrhM and can't find reference on the news org's main websites -- and the rest of youtube are all home videos either blogs or recordings of people calling paypal's "customer service". William Ortiz (talk) 14:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Yeah? I would have thought eBay's own announcement would suffice. Here's a link to a Courier_Mail article on the subject, [3], and one by The_Australian, [4]. Would the comments on The Australian article (99% negative) constitute proof of existence of a "controversy"?--Johnmc (talk) 22:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Those look good. Just make sure not to use blogs. australianit.news.com.au has comments and looks like a blog but as far as I can tell it's not a blog and just regular news but lets people comment (obviously the comments can't be counted to the article). I'm glad this kind of thing made the news. William Ortiz (talk) 00:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

To add, this announcement was shortly after Australian News tonight ran a report on how paypal was unsafe for buyers and sellers. There's a youtube at http://youtube.com/watch?v=KAlM0E-zrhM but I think someone didn't like that as the refernce. If anyone can find the actual news company mentioning that on their website, it would be very good. William Ortiz (talk) 00:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

• your wish.... :-) The Australian_Competition_and_Consumer_Commission is examining - no doubt after ebay user complaints - whether or not ebay Australia is violating trade practices laws as a result of the proposed changes. [5]. I think you have enough to add this to the controversies part of the article, so long as it is NPOV. (ie, even though this is controversial, there are no proven charges of wrongdoing against ebay at this point.) --Johnmc (talk) 08:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This stuff should go in the article. William Ortiz (talk) 04:28, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Another news report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDqpNsIg9vA William Ortiz (talk) 22:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the latest addition to this section, as they were clearly leading and not neutral. It started with critical opinions stated as if they were established fact, and went on to report that, amazingly, competing auction services were critical of eBay and wanted their customers. Hardly noteworthy stuff. Illuminatum has done a good job documenting this, but there's a danger of a POV creeping in and the section as a whole could do with trimming and summarising as things develop. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 10:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

The whole EBay#Australia needs to be cleaned up and rewritten. It's more of a POV then something you would read in an Encyclopedia and also linkfs from forums including eBay shouldn't be used and eBay itself shouldn't be used as a source as it's not a third-party. Bidgee (talk) 03:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Sniper bidding?

Should Sniper auction programs be mentioned on here? Are these litterally last second bidding computer programs legal on eBay? 67.160.154.48 (talk) 02:25, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

If it's notable and you find sources that are notable. William Ortiz (talk) 05:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Not sure, but I think the proper term is "sniping" - not the same as "sniper". Mattnad (talk) 12:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

They're entirely legal as well as within eBay's rules. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 18:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Nonetheless, it is still a criticism reflected upon Ebay for their bidding practices. It may be legal, and it may be within rules, but so was the attempted destruction of the Eiffel Tower, which was nonetheless met with criticism. --Frak (talk) 03:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

So? Me, I think the eBay site is stupid looking. That's also a criticism upon eBay. Where should I put that? -jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 04:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Criticism has to be notable and verifiable with cites. Do you have any cites from reputable sources? Wikipedia isn't interested in personal opinions. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 10:52, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Vladuz Stories

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071009-hacker-exploits-forgotten-ebay-administrative-system.html

http://www.suspendedfromebay.com/?p=86

http://www.pheebay.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=43193&highlight=vladuz

http://www.ebaymotorssucks.com/vladuz-is-back-again.htm

75.7.240.28 (talk) 23:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Hacking, legal threats, revenge, posting pink, posting user info... All in one handy dandy news article. :D

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/oct/25/ebay.hacking

75.7.240.28 (talk) 12:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Mystery Auctions

Since mystery auctions will no longer be allowed in June should this be removed from the article or would it be better to leave it in but note in the article that these are no longer allowed? Kaid (talk) 03:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Unusual Sale Items

Several years ago, then-Yankee (or Mariner, I forget exactly when) pitcher Jeff Nelson had bone chips removed from his elbow. The bone chips wound up on eBay, not by him, but apparently with his blessing as the item description included a picture of the seller and Nelson together in what looked like a doctor's office. The auction was canceled by eBay on the grounds that human body parts could not be sold. I don't have a citation for this, though. Jimpoz (talk) 20:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Comparison to walmart

In the Origins and early history section, the article makes a comparison, saying that ebay.com had 3 times as many 'hits' as walmart.com. I don't know if this is an entirely accurate comparison, as at least here in Australia, walmart is not really known very well, so we're comparing a (mostly) American website (walmart) with a website that has many more international versions (eBay). --Stozball (talk) 09:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes but it might be worth pointing out that walmart doses operate in the UK but under the name of ASDA. Which it does say in ASDA's article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inputdata (talk • contribs) 19:18, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Seekingalpha.com spam

Regarding the recent removal of spam, see also User talk:192.114.4.36#Seekingalpha.com spam and likely sockpuppetry. Thanks. -Colfer2 (talk) 14:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Capital letters

I thought sentences in English started with capital letters. It doesn't matter what Ebay decides to call themselves (eBay or ebaY), any sentence that starts with their company name should start with a capital E. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.254.230 (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

International

The article states, "eBay has already expanded to over two dozen countries including China and India. The only places where expansion failed were Taiwan and Japan," This seems to me to be a strictly point-of-view type of claim. It would also seem to be mistaken, as eBay's expansion into China for example(or failure thereof) is well-chronicled. I think there needs to be a citation supporting "the only places where expansion has failed were ...", or else changing the sentence to "the only places where eBay withdrew completely without buying a minority stake in a competitor were .."

Overall, if the article is to list all of the international web pages, there needs to be some kind of illustration about the relative sizes, or else the reader will be left with the false impression that each listed venture is significant relative to the whole. GMV listed, revenue, even page views per area, any of these would be an improvement. Failing that, may I suggest that the list be pruned or else removed entirely. Wphamilton (talk) 22:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Profits and Transactions

I made a few minor changes in the services section. However, I propose to eliminate this part entirely:

The company's current business strategy includes increasing revenue by increasing international trade within the eBay system. eBay has already expanded to over two dozen countries including China and India. The only places where expansion failed were Taiwan and Japan, where Yahoo! had a head start, and New Zealand where TradeMe, owned by the Fairfax media group is the dominant online auction website.

since the portion relating to expansion is POV and not strictly accurate, and since without citation it really remains to be seen tha increasing international trade is a good description of their business strategy or even one of the higher priorities. Wphamilton (talk) 22:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

• Seems sensible. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 23:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

The 5.25% fee quoted for Ebay.uk is incorrect. I have revised to 10%, which is the current % Ebay take. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.14.81.235 (talk) 04:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Dealing with fraudulence

Since eBay makes its money on commissions from listings and sales, it may not be in eBay's interest to take action against large sellers.[citation needed]
This is not the case as it will detract from ebay's market experience and having Fox news blow out a story about some guy who got ripped when he went to buy a TV on ebay is not in Ebay's interests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandawelch (talk • contribs) 12:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

• It's just unsourced speculation, anyway. Removed; thanks. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 15:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, ebay DOES tend to ignore a lot of ciminal activity on their site. If you people actually checked, using such places as toolhaus.org and looked at the negs of powersellers in particular, you'd see there's a lot of fraud going on. Yet complaints by buyers to ebay fall on deaf ears. 75.8.38.39 (talk) 20:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=collectionstop&Dirn=Received+by&ref=home

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=tsyedn&Dirn=Received+by

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=sunnking&Dirn=Received+by

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=cyclebidd

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=wntc&Dirn=Received+by (This seller is known to provide false tracking #'s)

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=99walker&Dirn=Received+by

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=firebuy.com&Dirn=Received+by

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=360wireless&Dirn=Received+by

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=ph13_mart&Dirn=Received+by

75.8.38.39 (talk) 21:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

As a former employee of eBay who worked in Fraud and Customer Identity theft, I can verify there is a huge amount of fraud going on with eBay. Several of my recent co-workers have tried selling/buying semi high end electronics and have gotten bombarded with stolen/fraudulent accounts. EBay tries to stem the tide with half-hearted measures but the fraud is still rampant. They do little against fraud because they don't want to become liable for it. It's not so much a matter of getting more insertion fees but spending large amounts of money to police their site. Do a search for HDTVs or Sony Vaios on eBay and take a close look at the seller's feedback and what they used to sell if anything.

j_lechem@msn.com (talk) 14:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

My impression is that eBay avoids issues of fraud whenever possible, but when forced to face the issue, they take the stance that "we're just a venue" and it's up to others to prove fraud. "We are a marketplace. We are not a retailer," said Hani Durzy, eBay spokesman.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6030048/

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/27/technology/27ebay.html

Suggested wording to replace cited sentence: Because eBay is "just a venue," the company denies that it is complicit when sellers offer fake or fraudulent items for sale. (with link to NYTimes article)

Whbjr (talk) 23:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

IBM Sells on eBay?

Entry says that IBM sells new product on eBay. Is it true? Supporting evidence? I'd like to check them out. 167.239.217.16 (talk) 12:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Propose splitting "Controversy and criticisms" section into separate "Criticism of eBay" article

The "Controversy and criticisms" section is getting quite large. I suggest splitting it into a separate Criticism of eBay article, similar to Criticism of Google or Criticism of Yahoo!. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 18:49, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, i 100 percent agree with this, because hell, if Walmart can get its own section of their own BS. then why can't Ebay? They are just as bad. lol--Dr. Pizza (talk) 16:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Opinion on counterfeiting?

For my wiki-editing debut, I cleaned up a few style points. I don't feel up to this bit, though, and seek opinion. The last sentence under Items & Services is:

eBay is also an easy place for unscrupulous sellers to market counterfeit merchandise, which can be difficult for novice buyers to distinguish without careful study of the auction description.

While that strikes me as glaringly obvious, it also comes across as opinion, or at least unsupported fact. Perhaps it needs rewrite, or a citation? Alias1219 (talk) 20:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Are airguns banned too?

I believe they are but airgun parts and other stuff such as pellets are not. Maybe it should be included in the section about prohibited items? 87.59.78.27 (talk) 22:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

homestar

the people that made homestar runner tried to sell a half eaten breakfast burrito. the bid maxed out, and they took it down 75.58.17.181 (talk) 05:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Ebay china?

www.ebay.cn? Is this an authentic new ebay china and if so shouldnt it be on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.196.58 (talk) 18:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

What is the relation?

How does the article benefit from the statement, "...Omidyar's own tongue-in-cheek tribute to the Ebola virus"? I do not see this as essential and enriching to the article. I am not familiar with the reference, nor is there anything after the sentence to really link it to eBay in terms of enriching the reader's knowledge of eBay. Basically, this appears to be a "tidbit" of information. --Zer0Nin3r (talk) 02:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

I changed the prologue back, since the text there is badly written and is unjustly damaging to ebay. Weeddude (talk) 16:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

As a former eBay power seller, I think the "criticism" section is woefully under represented.

Ebay has made so many changes that have made it more difficult to sell on it's site, that one doesn't know where to begin... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.199.17.127 (talk) 22:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Beta

It seems now that the old website style has been completely removed and you cannot "opt out" anymore. 79.66.39.117 (talk) 23:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, eBay had been ruined. Why try and fix things that weren't broke? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.79.174.227 (talk) 18:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Unusual sale items

This section is long & rambling and could really do with organisation, e.g. under subheadings for different types of item. Ben Finn (talk) 17:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Looking at things in a positive side. eBay continues to develop to better cater to their members. They have new policies and regulations that if we are optimistic we will find it benigicial for everybody. Of course we can't please everybody, that is a given fact, but let us remember that the only thing constant is change. There is always room for improvement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.14.194.33 (talk) 06:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

eBay is not localized in Denmark

The image shows it is, but it isn't.89.249.0.170 (talk) 19:52, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

half.com

Should there be a mention of half.com in this article? Ebay did acquire this company some time in the late 1990's, and it is still active at half.com and in much the same state as it always has been. Midtempo-abg (talk) 03:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Should the fact that eBay uses ActiveX be mentioned?

I've heard that eBay requires you to use Internet Explorer because of ActiveX controls when you put up an auction (or at least upload pictures). I looked it up, and it's true. Should this be mentioned in the article? Should it be in the Criticism of eBay article?--Dullstar (talk) 19:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

No, because it's wrong - I use eBay perfectly happily with Firefox. Lstanley1979 (talk) 09:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Someone from eBay blanked section on Dutch Auctions?

At least, that's what seems to have happened. According to the IP Addresses Talk page, the ip used is owned by eBay. As I said in my revert, I don't see how the whole section needs to be blanked, since Dutch Auctions were a part of eBay for so long, maybe just updated a bit.

If you are the editor in question, Hello! You may not have realized that your IP identified you as coming from eBay. You may wish to read WP:COI NipokNek (talk) 06:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

My recent experience with eBay and PayPal

On 12 March 2009, PayPal (eBay’s own company) requested copy of my passport, copy of my driving licence and copy of my utility bills. Suspecting a hoax I refused to provide copies of such documents, and on further requests too, as there is never any guarantee as to the safety of such documents and ultimately to the safety of my identity once the documents are dispatched. At the same time without any warning, PayPal restricted access to my account (I could not withdraw money) in which account I had approximately $800 US that constituted over $ 1,200 Australian at that time. On this occasion, PayPal failed to instruct me that I still could change my US dollars to AU dollars to prevent any fluctuation in value of AU dollars balance. At the time, I had an automatic payment arrangement in place with eBay/PayPal with two credit cards, and two or three bank accounts; each of them was more than capable to cover my seller’s fees; of no fault of mine and entirely of eBay/PayPal choice, they neglected to debit my seller’s fees from any of these accounts. Late in March, eBay sent me a message that PayPal (eBay’s company) refused to pay $100.71 to eBay and they requested me to make one off payment; in my response I wrote that PayPal holds my $1,200 and it is ridiculous from them to demand another $100.71 as they could use any other payment option as per automatic payment agreement. The matter has been dragged by PayPal and eBay until VCAT (Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal) hearing in early September; eventually PayPal decided to release my funds, that at this time were only worth AU$ 913 instead of AU$1,200. Because of eBay/PayPal actions, I suffered a direct loss of over $300 due to currency devaluation and indirect loss in sales that I could not undertake. After the release of my funds, I sent to PayPal my cheque payment of $100.71 as per original due; I did not believe that I should pay any interest on that money as eBay could debit either of my credit cards, or my bank accounts, but chose not to. Additionally, eBay/PayPal used my funds - interest free for the same period of 180 days so I could not see any sense in having to pay $6.30 in interest on $100.71 while eBay/PayPal having the right of not paying me any interest on my $1,200. Finally, based on my experience with eBay/PayPal, I consider these companies a bunch of common thieves, crooks and robbers; I will never use eBay/PayPal “services” again and I urge anyone who does to reconsider pros and cons as they can hit you as they did it to me. W. M. (Melbourne, Australia) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.205.29 (talk) 02:27, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

This page is not a personal forum for you to vent against the company. Honestly, no one cares. Take it up with their customer service. If you don't have anything to contribute to the article, please refrain from posting on this page. If you have something constructive to add regarding criticism (with sources), you should add it to the Criticism of eBay article. Thank you.24.190.34.219 (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Slogans

The slogan group in the infobox doesn't look right. Here are two I've come up with...

Two large infoboxes

eBay Inc.

250px|eBay corporate logo
220px The eBay homepage.
Type of business	Public (Nasdaq: EBAY)
Type of site	Online auction
Available in	Multilingual
Founded	September 3, 1995
Headquarters	San Jose, California , United States
Area served	Worldwide
Founder(s)	Pierre Omidyar
Key people	Pierre Omidyar, Chairman John Donahoe, CEO Lorrie Norrington, President of eBay Marketplaces
Industry	Auctions
Products	Online auction hosting, Electronic commerce, Shopping mall PayPal, Skype, Gumtree, Kijiji,
Revenue	$ 8.541 billion (2008)
Operating income	$ 2.075 billion (2008)
Net income	$ 1.779 billion (2008)
Total assets	- $ 15.592 billion (2008)
Total equity	- $ 11.083 billion (2008)
Employees	15,500 (Q1 2008)
URL	www.ebay.com List of domain names
Registration	Required to buy and sell

eBay Inc.

250px|eBay corporate logo
220px The eBay homepage.
Type of business	Public (Nasdaq: EBAY)
Type of site	Online auction
Available in	Multilingual
Founded	September 3, 1995
Headquarters	San Jose, California , United States
Area served	Worldwide
Founder(s)	Pierre Omidyar
Key people	Pierre Omidyar, Chairman John Donahoe, CEO Lorrie Norrington, President of eBay Marketplaces
Industry	Auctions
Products	Online auction hosting, Electronic commerce, Shopping mall PayPal, Skype, Gumtree, Kijiji,
Revenue	$ 8.541 billion (2008)
Operating income	$ 2.075 billion (2008)
Net income	$ 1.779 billion (2008)
Total assets	- $ 15.592 billion (2008)
Total equity	- $ 11.083 billion (2008)
Employees	15,500 (Q1 2008)
URL	www.ebay.com List of domain names
Registration	Required to buy and sell

Any other ideas? ~ ς ح д r خ є ~ 04:31, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

No other ideas from me, but both of these (in my opinion) look better than what's currently up. My vote goes to the one on the left as it clearly identifies each slogan separately and takes up less space. Lost on Belmont (talk) 04:49, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

The "Environmental record" section should be deleted.

The "Environmental record" section should be deleted. Lots of businesses are trying to do eco-friendly things these days, and there is no assertion of notability (i.e. world's biggest, world's first etc) in what eBay has done, so there is no reason for it to be in the article. Peter Ballard (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

BTW the sentence of criticism - which reads more like an editorial comment - should also be deleted. It is a rating by an apparently non-notable organisation, whose web page says at the top "2008 Climate Counts - Company Scores now available!". In other words, it's not a very active site. Peter Ballard (talk) 08:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

eBay Egypt ( eBay.eg ?)

The website cannot be reached. Furthermore I cannot find any information about ebay.eg. Someone tried to add (now defuncted) as for eBay China comment but that was reverted.138.246.37.177 (talk) 18:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)