User talk:Elizium23

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Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#User: Active Banana

You are involved in recently-filed Edit warring & 3RR and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. Do not worry; you are not suspect in these investigations. Your name was simply mentioned as an involved party. Please review the requests at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Active Banana reported by User:Taric25 (Result: ) & Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gerald Gonzalez and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit. Thank you. Taric25 (talk) 09:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

October 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Melissa Joan Hart. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Kudpung (talk) 23:43, 8 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Please don't change the format of dates without good reason, as you did to Melissa Joan Hart. A religious festival is not suitable as a date of birth for a biographical subject in an encyclopedia. The tone of encyclopedic articles is far more formal than that of newspapers or websites. Continuing to revert this entry will be considered as disruptive editing or even vandalism, which will both result in you being blocked from editing the encyclopedia.
If you have any questions about this, ask me on my talk page. Enjoy your time on Wikipedia. Thank you. . --Kudpung (talk) 23:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

I did not violate the WP:3RR policy and I did use the talk page to resolve this dispute, nor did I change the format of a date; I merely preserved its format as added by a third-party editor. Please do not stigmatize me by adding false templates to my talk page. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 01:27, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

These warnings were placed in genuine error and have been retracted. Please accept my apologies.--Kudpung (talk) 10:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

November 2010 backlog elimination drive update

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive!

Discussions are underway to elect our inaugural group of GOCE Coordinators. Guild members and Drive participants are invited to have a look at the Coordinators page and join the discussion on its associated talk page.

We have reached the midway point in our backlog elimination drive, so here is an update.

Participation report — The November drive has 53 participants at this point. We had 77 participants in the September drive. In July, 95 people signed up for the drive, and in May we had 36. If you are not participating, it is not too late to join!

Progress report — The drive is quite successful so far, as we have already almost reached our target of a 10% reduction in the number of articles in the backlog. We are doing very well at keeping our Requests page clear, as those articles count double for word count for this drive.

Please keep in mind the possibility of removing other tags when you are finished with an article. If the article no longer needs {{cleanup}}, {{wikify}}, or other similar maintenance tags, please remove them, as this will make the tasks of other WikiProjects easier to complete. Thanks very much for participating in the Drive, and see you at the finish line!

Your drive coordinators –The Utahraptor ^{Talk to me}/_{Contributions}, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa ^(Talk)

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Hellcats

Accolades should be in prose format, not table. Jayy008 (talk) 19:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the policy on this? I looked in several places, and couldn't find one that said either way. Elizium23 (talk) 19:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will try and find it for you. The user who informed me of the rule (I used to like it as a table), is now permanently blocked, so I can't ask him. I'll ask around for you. Jayy008 (talk) 22:30, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be some hints at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (embedded lists): Most Wikipedia articles should consist of prose, and not just a list of links. Prose allows the presentation of detail and clarification of context, while a list of links does not. Prose flows, like one person speaking to another, and is best suited to articles, because their purpose is to explain. Therefore, lists of links, which are most useful for browsing subject areas, should usually have their own entries: see Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists for detail. In an article, significant items should be mentioned naturally within the text rather than merely listed. Elizium23 (talk) 22:38, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pasting that, it's definitely good to know. That should clear up any confusion in the future. :) Jayy008 (talk) 22:58, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Editing on "Skyline (film)"

Thanks for the info on escapes.

I gather that you followed the link but didn't think that it was up to "reliable source" standards.

You're probably right about that, but the WikiPedia article on "A Plague of Demons" is sadly just a bare link and not even a stub.

I'll try to find something else that might rise to the "reliable source" standard. Thardman22 (talk) 01:42, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

perhaps the synopsis from Barnes and Noble's online site might be useful? Thardman22 (talk) 01:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I followed the link, and found nothing there that mentioned Skyline, or compared the story to anything else. Please read WP:OR regarding 'original research.' You have to be able to quote secondary sources which say the thing you want to say. For example, a contemporary reviewer may say, "I watched this movie Skyline, and it looked to me an awful lot like a book I have read, A Plague of Demons. Plot point A and plot point B are nearly identical." Then that is published by a reputable news site, and you can use that quote and paraphrase it to make the same point about Skyline. Someone else has done the research for us. This way, it passes verifiability standards. To quote WP:OR: "No original research" is one of three core content policies, along with Neutral point of view and Verifiability, that jointly determine the type and quality of material that is acceptable in articles. Because these policies work in harmony, they should not be interpreted in isolation from one another, and editors should try to familiarize themselves with all three. Elizium23 (talk) 04:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Um actually I did see the movie, and I did read the Keith Laumer novel "A Plague of Demons". And I did see the similarities. See also my blog where I mention it in an oblique fashion. But I understand that I can't use my own opinions as "original research". With all due respect, perhaps you might see the movie and read the novel, and do a write-up on a reputable site and get peer-review comment? The movie itself might be a waste of money unless you're easily amused, or not. Your decision and opinion matter! But the Keith Laumer novel (1965) is considered a classic, however dated it might seem to us modern people. I realize you're just informing me as to Wikipedia standards, but I've been through this before. Don't worry, no edit war is forthcoming. But would it be acceptable if I contrasted and compared various reviews of of both. The focus for my comparison is the final minutes of Skyline which are practically point-by-point of the last few pages of "A Plague of Demons", the main difference being that in Skyline there is the added element of defense of a pregnant wife. The brain-transplant into a killing machine/cyborg combat chassis is practically word for word, otherwise. But I realize I can't cite my own opinion. Thardman22 (talk) 04:55, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE Drive – Final push

Greetings GOCE Backlog elimination drive participant, We are now coming up to the last few days of the drive, the last for 2010. Currently, it looks like we will achieve our target for reducing the backlog by 10%, however, we still have huge numbers for 2009. We have 55 participants in this drive. If everyone just clears 2 articles each, we will reduce the backlog by a further 110 articles. If everyone can just do 3 articles, we will hit 165. If you have yet to work on any articles and have rollover words, remember that you do need to copyedit at least a couple of articles in this drive for your previous rollover to be valid for the next drive. There are many very small articles that will take less than 5-10 minutes to copyedit. Use CatScan to find them. Let's all concentrate our firepower on the first three months of 2009 as we approach the end of this final drive for the year. Thank you once again for participating, and see you at the finish line! – SMasters (talk) 04:08, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ModelSheet

Do you have specific suggestions as to how to rewrite the ModelSheet article so it's not considered

? I already included diverse sources including the largely unfavorable ZD Net review. Thanks. Woz2 (talk) 21:06, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the Strategy, products and services section is the problematic part. In particular, these changes are completely marketing-speak and a clear conflict of interest for the editor responsible. Thankfully, he's also provided us with good sources. The whitepapers, and any other documentation we can find on the company website, should be plenty to start describing the products neutrally. Overall, we need to cut down on the WP:PEACOCK terms, and just explain why the software exists, and what it does. Elizium23 (talk) 21:54, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I think I fixed it. Please remove the advert template if it now looks OK. Woz2 (talk) 01:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Looks good now. Woz2 (talk) 03:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Raven-Symoné

Yes. This auto-bot did it, and now users won't stop reverting my edits that took me about an hour to complete. I did look through it, and not much is really nessicary to add. ΣПD!ПG–STΛЯT | TΛLK | 06:33, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, the bot reverted to a revision of yours, but the reverts are coming from 76.99.149.214 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • RDNS • tracert • robtex.com • StopForumSpam • Google • AboutUs • Project HoneyPot). I have warned this user once, hopefully he will either get himself blocked, or give up. Elizium23 (talk) 06:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not exactly sure how to reply to messages on wikipedia, so I’ll just put it here. You can delete it or whatever if you chose. As far as the Raven-Symoné page I kept reverting the page back because I believed her music and acting career didn’t need to be combined. But I've let that go. I don’t know why I’m being accused of vandalism when the Raven page months ago use to say she died in a car accident and that she was signed to Cash Money Records. And I’m the one who re-wrote 90% of the content that‘s up now im just not signed into my user account. But anyway, as far as my last edit that got reverted that made no sense what's so ever considering all I changed was wrong. Her movie's not called Everybody's Hero, it's called Everyone's Hero. Also her characters name is not Dani its Marti. Also I took out the Debbie Allen play because it's not important enough to mention in my opinion. She did a 24-Hour musical earlier this year that’s not listed. What makes this one notable. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.149.214 (talk) 19:12, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am glad to hear that you have good reasons for your edits. What you need to do is voice these reasons in your edit summaries and, if that fails, start a discussion on Talk:Raven-Symoné about it. Combining her careers is something that could be a content dispute and you need to achieve consensus about whether or not that is a desirable change. Please review WP:RS and WP:V - Wikipedia is built on the principle of verifiability, and this means that statements in articles must be backed up by reliable sources. The passage about the Debbie Allen play did include a source, and removal of references tends to set off alarm bells (although you could be right about notability - see WP:DUE about that.) And I know the statement about Everyone's Hero doesn't have a source. But in correcting that, it would be best if you tracked one down - please avoid using IMDb, because anyone can change it, it is not considered a reliable source. Sorry about the reverts, but as you've noted, there is a lot of vandalism to this page, and it tends to come from anonymous IP editors who aren't using edit summaries, so it can be a kneejerk reaction when I revert stuff that hasn't been discussed in any way. Elizium23 (talk) 19:37, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Instalment

I had no idea that was a British spelling. I thought I knew all of the little spelling differences between American and British. Either way thanks for letting me know. bob rulz (talk) 08:02, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader

Hey there. Just to let you know I've cleaned up and converted the references a bit. I also replied to your request on the talk page. I hope the refs look a bit better now.--The Taerkasten (talk) 21:52, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So far, so good! Thanks! Elizium23 (talk) 23:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE elections

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors

Elections are currently underway for our inaugural Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, Friday 1 December – 23:59 UTC, Tuesday 14 December. All GOCE members in good standing, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are six candidates vying for four positions. The candidate with the highest number of votes will become the Lead Coordinator, therefore, your vote really matters! Cast your vote today.

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors via SMasters using AWB on 01:37, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FILM November 2010 Newsletter

The November 2010 issue of the WikiProject Film newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive Conclusion

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive!

We have reached the end of our fourth backlog elimination drive. Thanks to all who participated.

Stats

58 people signed up for this drive. Of these, 48 people participated in the drive.
Although we did not eliminate the months we planned to (January, February, and March 2009; and August, September, and October 2010), we did reduce the backlog by 627 articles (11.2%), which was over our goal of 10%.
49 awards will go out to 33 of 48 participants. Check out the complete list of barnstar winners here.

Barnstars

If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you participated in the September 2010 backlog elimination drive, you may have earned roll-over words (more details can be found here). These roll-over words count as credit towards earning barnstars, except for leaderboard awards. We will be delivering these barnstars within the next couple of weeks.

Our next drive is scheduled for January 2011. In the meantime, please consider helping out at the Wikification drive or any of the other places where help with backlogs is needed.

Thank you for participating in the last 2010 backlog elimination drive! We look forward to seeing you in January!

Your drive coordinators –The Utahraptor ^{Talk to me}/_{Contributions}, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa ^(Talk)

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GOCE Year-end Report

Season's Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors

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Highlights

Membership grows to 503 editors
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Our encounter with Jimbo Wales
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Get your copy of the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report here On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. See you in 2011!
– Your Coordinators: S Masters (lead), Diannaa, The Utahraptor, and Tea with toast.

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Raven

Duplicate headings look ridiculous. If some obscure style guide says to put them, ignore it. It's an example, not the law. Gimmetoo (talk) 00:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's for accessibility, something you don't seem to understand. Please leave them in. Elizium23 (talk) 00:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you have any inclination what I understand. This is an issue of style, and I object to your style change. The table has headers, so it doesn't need any more. Gimmetoo (talk) 01:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In case you didn't know, the article had mostly sortable tables, without extra headers, until some changes by an IP editor. Gimmetoo (talk) 17:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rosenvilde videregående skole

Hi there. I have declined the speedy tag on this article as WP:A7 does not apply to schools. Thank you, →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 03:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Brightman Bio

hello! excuse me! but you're adding information that is already in another paragraph

please look this!

On 29 January 2008, Brightman released her first album in five years: Symphony, influenced by gothic music.[47] The Title track of the album "Symphony" is a cover of "Symphonie" by the German band Silbermond. In the United States it became Brightman's most successful chart entry and also her highest ranked album on Billboard's "Top 200 Albums". It was also a #1 album on two other Billboard's charts: "Top Internet Albums" and "Top Classical Crossover Albums". The album moved there 32,033 copies in first week[48], according to Nielsen Soundscan. Nevertheless, the album flopped in the Billboard 200 top album chart, lasting only eleven weeks on the list and selling about 145,000 units[49][50] marking Brightman's worst sales in the United States for an studio album in her solo-career period. In contrast, in Canada the album debuted and peaked at #4; in Mexico it entered at #9, where it peaked at #5; and in Japan debuted and peaked at 2. The median success that the album experienced was awarded with Gold x 5 & Platinum x 2 awards and sold only 720,000 worldwide.

sorry if I caused any trouble, have a nice day!

and Sarah now Collected 180 platinum and gold certifacion! Please read my comments in the discussion part! Greetings! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedarkocean (talk • contribs) 03:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CAT:UAA

Hi, I've noticed you've been leaving quite a few templates that populate CAT:UAA. Could I ask you to refrain from using those templates until the user has actually edited? In the case of promotional usernames, we can't block until and unless they edit and they edit something connected with their usernames, so leaving the templates just makes a mess of the category, not to mention potentially scaring of newbies. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I understand and I will not be so zealous in the future. Sorry. Elizium23 (talk) 02:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zeal is not always a bad thing, but it's polite to give them a chance to violate policy before we start threatening blocks! ;) Of course, if you come across a grossly offensive username, report it to WP:UAA so it can be blocked (most people with such usernames are not new at all or have no intention of contributing constructively). Meanwhile, do feel free to help me clear out the backlog by removing the non-vios so I can find the ones that need dealing with! Oh, and see below! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer permission

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If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 03:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Dogbtw, it wasn't vandalism, i was previewing a template from my sandbox that i needed to make sure was working properly in the normal talk space... i just accidentally hit save instead of preview, and you got to the edit before i could undo it. :) --ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 04:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]That's fine, when I investigated, it seemed like an honest mistake, which is why I didn't leave you a warning template. :) Elizium23 (talk) 04:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]Women in IndiaExcuse me, why are my edits considered vandalism ??? I am posting a picture of an average Indian women which is quite relevant to the article. --- NapoleonARS