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Former good articleLos Angeles was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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November 24, 2005Good article nomineeListed
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October 5, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Delisted good article

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Only Major US City Bisected By a Mountain Range?

This arbitrary and uncited line in the Geography section is unnecessary and could be cleaned up, there are other examples of major US cities with mountain ranges separating portions of the city limits (Phoenix, El Paso). Should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.8.34.101 (talk) 15:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Minor correction

{{editsemiprotected}} There should be no period after "the valley of smoke". So Say We All (talk) 20:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for catching that.   Will Beback  talk  20:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LAX min. temp.

Minimum temperature at LAX downtown was 23F on 9-1-1937 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.9.63.99 (talk) 14:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prophecy

Please add this:

On 03/01/2006 Our Lady made this prophecy: "The famous Los Angeles will mourn the death of their children." (See Apelos Urgentes) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.117.72.239 (talk) 00:25, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Book

To whom it may concern,

I would like to add my book (below) to the Further Reading section, but I can't because it is semi-protected. How can I do it?

Sorry for not responding sooner. By its title, that book looks quite specialized and would not be a logical addition to this very general article. However, Wikipedia is vast and deep, and there are other articles where that might be a valuable addition. For example, Arts and culture of Los Angeles, List of films set in Los Angeles, History of Mexican Americans, Chicano films, etc. But "Further Reading" entries are little more than advertisements or bibliography filler. If you really like to help how about adding material using your already researched sources? Feel free to ask me on my talk page if you need more help.   Will Beback  talk  11:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LA's Metro Population

Text from intro

Los Angeles ... is the second most populous city in the United States,[1] the most populous city in the state of California and the western United States, with a population of 3.83 million[2] within its administrative limits on a land area of 498.3 square miles (1,290.6 km2). The urban area of Los Angeles extends beyond the administrative city limits with a population of over 14.8 million and it is the 14th largest urban area in the world, affording it megacity status.[3] The Los Angeles–Long Beach–Santa Ana metropolitan statistical area (MSA) is home to nearly 12.9 million residents[4] while the broader Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside combined statistical area (CSA) contains nearly 17.8 million people. Los Angeles is also the seat of Los Angeles County, the most populated and one of the most multicultural counties[5] in the United States.

In 2010 the London based consultant firm Knight Frank LLP, together with Citibank, published The Wealth Report 2010, which ranked Los Angeles the 5th most powerful and influential city in the world, behind only New York City in the United States. The Wealth Report, which includes the World City Survey, assesses four parameters — economic activity, political power, knowledge and influence and quality of life.[6] The Los Angeles combined statistical area (CSA) has a gross metropolitan product (GMP) of $831 billion (as of 2008), making it the third largest economic center in the world, after the Greater Tokyo Area and the New York metropolitan area.[7][8][9]

  1. ^ "Table 1: Annual Estimates of the Population for Incorporated Places Over 100,000, Ranked by July 1, 2005 Population: April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2005" (CSV). 2008 Population Estimates. United States Census Bureau, Population Division. 2006-06-20. Retrieved 2007-01-26.
  2. ^ "Los Angeles (city) Quickfacts". US Census Bureau. 25. Retrieved 2008-10-14. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= and |year= / |date= mismatch (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  3. ^ Combination of Los Angeles–Long Beach–Santa Ana, Riverside–San Bernardino and Mission Viejo urbanized areas. Excludes urban areas of Oxnard (340,000; 196 km2), Lancaster–Palmdale (265,000; 234 km2), Indio–Palm Springs (255,000; 255 km2), Temecula–Murrieta (230,000; 248 km2), Thousand Oaks (210,000; 223 km2), Victorville–Hesperia (200,000; 321 km2), Santa Barbara (195,000; 155 km2), Santa Clarita (170,000; 141 km2), Hemet (115,000; 108 km2) and Simi Valley (110,000; 70 km2).
  4. ^ "Metropolitan statistical area| Population Estimates| July 1, 2007". Retrieved 2010-04-13.
  5. ^ By Les Christie, CNNMoney.com staff writer (2007-08-09). "The most ethnically diverse counties in the United States - August 9, 2007". Money.cnn.com. Retrieved 2010-04-13. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)
  6. ^ "Revealed: Cities that rule the world". cnn.com. 2010-04-10. Retrieved 2010-12-27.
  7. ^ The 150 richest cities in the world by GDP in 2005, dated March 11, 2007. The list fails to include Taipei. Retrieved July 3, 2007.
  8. ^ The United States Conference of Mayors and The National Association of Counties, 2007; Standard & Poor's DRI, June, 2008.
  9. ^ Bureau of Economic Analysis, 2009; GDP by Metropolitan Area, September 24, 2009 .

Metro population discussion

Someone's changed it to 15 million, but the article, source and other pages give the more common and accurate number of 12 million. I can't fix it because it's protected so, just letting people know.

Red Hair Bow (talk) 08:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and no. You're right that the metro population is 12 million, but the urban area population is 15 million. Or so it says at List of urban areas by population. I've copied the lengthy footnote here.
I think the intro is getting superlative heavy, so I'm not endorsing the inclusion of this material by improving it. Maybe we can edit the rankings down a bit. Some of the material isn't in the text of the article which is another sign of work to be done.
Red Hair Bow, you'll be able to fix it four days after your sign-up so feel free to come back or make other suggestions in the meantime.   Will Beback  talk  11:06, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I try to explain: there are two categories: administrative/statistical and urbanization.
Los Angeles area (administratively/statistical) is divided into:
Los Angeles area (urbanization) is divided into:
  • Los Angeles urban area - 14.8 million
  • Los Angeles metropolitan area - 15.3 million
Subtropical-man (talk) 20:15, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly, there are many ways of defining the greater L.A. urbanization. Can you suggest a way of mentioning the most important couple of ones in the intro, and moving the rest to the demographics section?   Will Beback  talk  05:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've posted the population and economy material from the intro. It seems too detailed, with too many facts, too many different measures of population. Perhaps just the city population and the largest or most important of the urban area populations? There's also too much on the "Wealth Report". Maybe we could just say something like, "it has been ranked as the fifth most important city economically". That'd be more readable. The details can go in the text of the article.   Will Beback  talk  06:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you mean the CSA (17.8 million)...that includes LA, OC, and the Inland Empire; which I feel is the proper definition of the LA metro area. I also agree with your way to summarize the economy thing Purplebackpack89 23:13, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and removed it from the intro, along with that minor detail of the founding name of the city.   Will Beback  talk  02:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Where is that now? I know it's a very long name, but it has to be there someplace Purplebackpack89 03:10, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's in the history section.   Will Beback  talk  03:17, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LAX is no longer the fifth busiest, it should say sixth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.245.36.123 (talk) 11:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Census 2010 population = 3,792,621

Much slower growth than expected —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.76.111.94 (talk) 04:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Census 2010 Population > 4,000,000

I'm not sure why there are contributors animate on making sure Los Angeles doesn't appear to have more than 4 million people. As a Los Angeles resident, the new city limit signs appearing are saying that the population is well over 4 million, and 5 years ago, those signs read 3,957,875. Every decade since the 1920s, the city has grown considerably without any dip in population; 2010 being no exception. Los Angeles has the highest immigrant and non-resident population in the U.S, second only to New York City. There could foreseeably be 4 1/2 million when accounting for those folks. Being a rapidly growing sun-belt region, and a city that continues to sprawl to nearly 500 square miles, I don't logically see how the population stagnated the last decade. Even if there are official tabulations under the 4 million mark, there is no way to be sure of the exact count. Many people refuse to participate or afraid that participation could cause deportation. Intelligent estimates should be considered.

http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2010/04/california_coming_up_on_3.php College Watch (talk) 08:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Census numbers should be use, as that is the standard on Wikipedia. However statements from reliable sources giving a higher number should be mentioned in the text where appropriate nonetheless. 08OceanBeach SD (talk) 22:38, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
City limit signs (or guesses based on having a lot of immigrants) aren't reliable sources, anyway they're less reliable than a census. It is in the city's interest to pad their population stats anyway, as its better to be the mayor of a growing city than one that isn't growing as fast. We should use the same standard as every other city in the US, which is the census. AlexiusHoratius 22:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay so maybe a compromise, showing the official 2010 census followed by a 4 Million+ estimate? College Watch (talk) 20:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The montage now has no borders

Anyone else think it looked better with the borders? I've always thought that montages look a bit off without them, but there seems to be a few where people have edited out (or never put in) any borders. I was going to revert, but thought I'd ask for thoughts here first. Altormainstream (talk) 00:27, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Demonym: Angeleno?

I'm a native and I've always heard residents referred to as "Los Angelenos". — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyIrresistible (talk • contribs) 07:05, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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