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Isn't It True That?

Isn't it true that Gore dropped out of law school with failing grades (i.e., that he had to drop out before flunking out)? Wikipedia generally favors the liberal viewpoint, so perhaps this was edited out of the article, but it would be better to simply print the facts rather than spin them to make Gore look more scholarly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.149.170 (talk) 00:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Laurie David

The affair rumor was covered (and promptly denied) by several reliable sources, which quote Laurie David herself, as well as some of the Gores' friends. Any good reason for excluding this? Just to remind everyone, pointing at policies won't suffice. Here's a quote from WP:BLP that supports the addition:

  • Example: A politician is alleged to have had an affair. He or she denies it, but The New York Times publishes the allegations, and there is a public scandal. The allegation belongs in the biography, citing The New York Times as the source. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 15:15, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you have to preface an edit to a WP:BLP with "It was rumored..." it will in all likelihood be removed. Swiftly. Tarc (talk) 15:50, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Changed the wording. Now you need to adhere to BLP and leave the addition alone. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 16:00, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly, you haven't... apparently, when BLP is backing me up, the excuse changes to WP:UNDUE. Quote please? Hearfourmewesique (talk) 16:16, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
First, your quote of BLP doesn't apply. Your sources are a mass-market tabloid gossip column (the NYDN) and a web site (the HuffPo), both of them denying a story that appeared in a supermarket tabloid (the Star). Not good enough. Second, the matter is entirely trivial, and not WP:WEIGHTy enough for a necessarily brief biography. The stuff stays out. PhGustaf (talk) 16:49, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. Your BLP quote posited that the allegations were published in The New York Times. The allegations were published by Star. Can you perceive the difference? PhGustaf (talk) 17:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some people have a vague to no idea of what a tabloid is – here's your answer. The NY Daily News has won ten Pulitzer prizes and is widely known as a reliable source. As for the Huffington Post, same applies – well known as reliable. Did you know that some blogs are even used as a source for Google news and such? And as for "the matter is entirely trivial" – how do you back up this claim? Oh, and by the way, the New York times is only used as an example for any source. I can remove the Star magazine reference – it still leaves two reliable sources that published the allegation. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 17:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your NYDN cite is from their gossip column, which didn't win no Pulitzers. The allegation, as opposed to its denials, appeared only in the Star (which you, to your credit, didn't cite), which likely once asserted Gore was an alien. PhGustaf (talk) 17:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it was mentioned in the New York Times here. But, as Hear said, the NYT is simply used as an example. You're not suggesting that the NYT is the only reliable source that can be used in Wikipedia, are you? The Huffington Post has been deemed reliable on WP:RSN Drrll (talk) 17:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm by no means asserting that the NYT is the only good source, and I agree that HuffPo is good too. I'm just pointing out that the original assertion, as opposed to its denials, appeared only in the Star. Tarc's point below is sound as well. Sorry for being so unclear. PhGustaf (talk) 17:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's true about the denials being in the HuffPo & NYT, but not the accusations. My question is whether there is WP policy that prohibits using gossip columns of otherwise reliable sources like the NYDN. BTW, based upon the WP:BLP policy quoted by Hear and based on the fact that accusations were widely reported in reliable sources, the Oregon sexual assault charges should be included (of course with the denials and with the news that the DA dropped the case). Drrll (talk) 17:58, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure whether there's a formal policy about it, but good judgment would preclude using gossip columns as sources about, well, gossip, which is what this matter is. We discussed the Oregon matter before and decided to leave it out, but apparently someone took the discussion out as WP:BLP in itself. PhGustaf (talk) 18:17, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I understand that, but I'm a little disappointed in a way as the Oregon incident (whatever it was) was clearly alluded to in the last episode of The Good Wife so I was interested in a refresher on the actual facts of it.--T. Anthony (talk) 00:36, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing alone isn't the issue; not everything that is printed by a reliable source is fit for inclusion in an article, as noted above by WP:UNDUE, which serves as a barrier for reprinting every gossip, innuendo, charge, and rumor about public figures in their respective Wikipedia articles. Tarc (talk) 17:36, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's an excuse. I specifically cited BLP for such cases, you're just repeating the words "undue" and "weight". Perhaps WP:Arguments to avoid would be a good refresher for all those who insist on excluding this piece of information. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 17:37, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We simply don't give weight to fringe rumours in wikipedia articles, especially biographies. And since we're not having a deletion discussion here, a pointer to that page is, um, pointless. Tarc (talk) 18:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So why is it a "fringe rumor" – other than a collection of personal opinions? WP:BLP allows affair allegations to be included in biographies, as long as they are covered by reliable sources, and here you can see at least three. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 19:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apple Inc?

Hi, this article is protected, I cannot modify it. Could someone please remove the link to "Book:Apple Inc" at the end of the article? It has nothing to do with Al Gore. Thanks 62.168.34.2 (talk) 08:53, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a member of Apple's Board of Directors, this article is included in the Apple, Inc. book; thus the link at the end of the article. Rishi.bedi (talk) 05:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Futurama

Al Gore provides the voice for himself in the TV show Futurama. Should this be mentioned, and if so, then where? --Kierkk (talk) 01:19, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest a list of Gore's media endeavors, i.e writing and appearances. There is a brief sampling in the fourth paragraph at the opening of the article, but no comprehensive list.
Beside his more serious contributions, his work on Futurama puts him in the same class as full-time media professionals. Kid Bugs (talk) 03:07, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

TED talks

This article doesn't mention Al Gore's association with TED. Could someone add it, please? Democraticmacguitarist (talk) 12:38, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Supreme Court Deciding the ELection

This article says "It was the only time in history that the Supreme Court may have determined the outcome of a presidential election." I'm not sure if this is 100% true, since some Supreme Court justices helped decide the results of the 1876 presidential election. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.235.28.77 (talk) 02:48, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence should be removed regardless. With the 'may' is obviously is admitting it is not factual. It could say something like: The election was the first time in history where the Supreme Court was called up to make a ruling regarding a presidential election. Though even that I am not sure is true. Rodchen (talk) 01:35, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Mahathir Mohamed & Anwar Ibrahim

Dr Mahathir bin Mohamed was Prime Minister of Malaysia from 1981 to 2003, but he was never President as Malaysia is not a republic but a constitutional monarchy.

Anwar bin Ibrahim was Dr Mahathir's deputy from 1993 to 1998. The "bin" in these two names means "son of" and is not part of a surname. Malays have no surnames. Therefore, a Malay name should always be shortened to the first name rather than the last name, because the last name would be the father's name.

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