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The Deletion of Bradford Catholics page
I believe my page to have been unfairly deleted and i believe it should be un-blocked this religion was not just made up one day with my mates this religion was created because we strongly believe this is how life should be lived and think that many others may feel the same way we already have 30 followers and as it was only properly formed 6 days ago that obviously proves we are serious about this and we are just trying to spread are views on religion or at least make people aware of are religion.We hope you will take this message seriously and will grant us are request.
with thanks --Pricey987 (talk) 17:14, 16 May 2012 (UTC) (Jack Price)
- Sorry, there are sites like Myspace where you can write about it, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and an encyclopedia is not a place for announcing new things - it only reports on things that are already well established, so that other people have commented on them independently.
- The Wikipedia:No original research policy includes: "If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article about it. If you discover something new, Wikipedia is not the place to premiere such a discovery."
- Article subjects need to have Wikipedia:Notability, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."
- Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause.
- The guideline Wikipedia is not for things made up one day was written mainly for people who have made up a new word or a joke "philosophy", but you should read it all because it explains the issues quite well, and they apply even when the subject is serious. JohnCD (talk) 20:46, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I understand thanks anyway — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.41.109.253 (talk) 15:37, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Revision deletion
Hi John, since I know you do a bit of work in WP:REVDEL, could you please redact the most recent vandalism on the October 27 article as per WP:CRD#2. Thanks in advance. Jared Preston (talk) 17:26, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- Done. JohnCD (talk) 17:47, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Racism
Is it wrong to talk about racism in wikipedia? - Aviyal:My Talk Page:My Contributions 19:28, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean.
- As a subject in articles: yes, it can be talked about, there is a long article Racism and many more detailed ones listed in Index of racism-related articles
- In discussions on talk pages and noticeboards: it is very unlikely to be helpful to accuse another editor of racism - see WP:No personal attacks
- If you want more than this general answer, you will have to make your question more specific. JohnCD (talk) 20:03, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Deletion of Winchester College Football for move
If you look at the official site of the sport: http://www.winchestercollege.org/wincoll-football, a capital F is used, so this is why I requested for it to be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xmteam (talk • contribs) 15:07, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia's style is not to capitalize words in the title except for proper nouns. For comparable articles, see Eton wall game and Harrow football, though both those use caps in their own pages: [1], [2]. JohnCD (talk) 16:04, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Jessie Jack Hooper page
Hi, JohnCD-
Thanks for your kind and helpful notes re the page I started. I'd been dubbing around with the idea for a page on that topic for a bit, and I guess I just got impatient to have something show up there. Jessie Jack Hooper is a truly nationally-significant person from my community, and it has really bothered me that she hasn't been on the list of local notables. I've had a request out, for ages, to a local professor who has developed a huge amount of scholarly information about her, but as yet haven't gotten her to commit to letting me turn something she has already written into a wikipedia page (crediting her and her sources properly, of course.)
As I'm living abroad at the moment, for now, just listing Jessie Jack Hooper on the "notables" list will have to do, but I'll turn up the heat on that prof when I get back home this summer, and make this page really a good one. Thanks again for your help! MAOffer (talk) 19:53, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- Good, I'm glad you were not scared off. She may not survive on the notables list - those lists are really for people with articles - but she can be put back when you write one. JohnCD (talk) 21:33, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks
For your quick action on the uncontentious speedy Cinder Cone thing. Cheers DBaK (talk) 10:14, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Proposal to change the behavior of maintanence categories for this template
I've started a discussion about fixing the broken update behavior maintenance categories for BLPPRODs, or changing those categories entirely. That discussion is at:
I've noticed that you sometimes work BLPPROD deletion, your opinions and ideas would be welcome. --joe deckertalk to me 06:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
hi john
hi john | |
why did you delete my created Ezzil 02 (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2012 (UTC) |
- (talk page stalker here) I did too. Wikipedia isn't somewhere for you to post your history. Apart from which, if your friends don't know who you are, why are they friends? Seriously, that's what Facebook and MySpace are for. Telling your friends about the things they don't know about you. This is an encyclopaedia - we list people that are of note way outside a few friends. They have articles about them in national papers and magazines, or jobs like Member of Parliament or Senator. Sorry, but if it appears again, it'll go again. and if you carry on, you might get blocked from editing altogether. Wikipedia is free to edit, but you still have to follow the rules. Peridon (talk) 21:12, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, Peridon, well put. Ezzil, I have already explained on your talk page, and pointed you to WP:NAY. LinkedIn is another good place for posting CVs. JohnCD (talk) 21:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Special Barnstar | |
Thanks for your contributions, John! SwisterTwister talk 16:33, 18 May 2012 (UTC) |
- Thank you! I'm not in a damp field like Peridon, but I have to go and do the washing-up, so I am also glad to be cheered up. JohnCD (talk) 21:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
what the hell is this....?
what going on your mind man why did you delete my page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rithvikreddy.p (talk • contribs) 13:54, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- I explained on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 13:56, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
A request
Can you please restrict creation creation of this to admins or autopatrolled autoconfirmed only: [3] Many newbies are creating it and this has no meaning. →TheSpecialUserTalkContributions* 17:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's either sysop or autoconfirmed. Thanks! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 17:07, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Facepalm →TheSpecialUserTalkContributions* 17:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's all one user, and he has been here long enough to be autoconfirmed. I don't think this is bad enough for full protection. I have explained WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:AUTO - let's see if he get the message. JohnCD (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Facepalm →TheSpecialUserTalkContributions* 17:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Sorry!
Sorry I didn't meant to hoax or anything. I got the story from some other person! Won't happen again. (Spitfire202 (talk) 20:37, 19 May 2012 (UTC))
- And crap I'm really embarrassed about it. Sorry again~! (Spitfire202 (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2012 (UTC))
Earl of Gowry
As it was decided to delete the above as a hoax, would it not be a better idea to delete the article outright and re-create the redirect? The same hoaxer may come along and reinstate this just from the edit history. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 19:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- It would indeed, and that's what I intended to do and thought I had done, but by a complex series of fumbles I managed to get it wrong. Now fixed - thanks for pointing it out. JohnCD (talk) 19:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Citation Barnstar | |
Last year, I realized that the ARC Weekly Top 40 was no longer on WikiPedia. Although it was accurate, a lot of people were unknown of this chart and the MBG Top 40 chart. At first I was a little upset it was not on the website. However, me being subscribed to Billboard, I realized that the information on ARC Weekly was "a little bit off". It says it's supposed to be Airplay and Sales. Unfortunately, the chart has undergone changes that no one else had known.
Yes, when I do not want to log into my Billboard.Biz subscription, I do visit ARC rockonthenet. But what I've noticed is that it was pretty much like Top40-charts.com. It seemed off from what it was supposed to be. I looked at Hot 100 Airplay, Mainstream Top 40, and even Pop Digital Songs; it seemed inaccurate. Another thing was that there were about 275 songs in its first year (1980), but there were only 156 songs in 2009. Since I knew the history of Contemporary hit radio and the formats it spawned into, I knew that the website did not provide enough information about its chart change. It was as if it focused on The Billboard Hot 100 from 1980 to 1990, Hot 100 Airplay and Sales from 1991-1996, Top 40 Tracks from 1996-2003, and the Mainstream Top 40 and Pop Digital from 2004-present. Thank you for deleting it on WikiPedia. Someone like me, who was born way after 1980, could have misused an inaccurate chart when trying to re-live Contemporary hit radio in the 1980s. DominiquesMusic (talk) 01:56, 20 May 2012 (UTC) |
- Normally, I wouldn't feel I deserved a barnstar for a deletion which, like this one, was the result of closing a deletion discussion - it should really go to user TenPoundHammer (talk) who did the research and actually nominated the page. However, as you can see from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ARC Weekly Top 40, this one involved deleting more than thirty pages, so it was quite hard work, and I accept your barnstar with thanks! JohnCD (talk) 22:09, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Awful lot of deletions!
By the looks of this chat page, you've deleted an awful lot. Including a page on Hakan Serbes. Perhaps the time has come to boot you off! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.245.236 (talk) 10:40, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- He probably deleted it for good reason. And all the other on this talk page too. If he didn't he would promptly be recalled.--Otterathome (talk) 12:33, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Letting anyone edit brings in more than one new page a minute and, while there is a lot of good stuff, a regrettable proportion are unsuitable, so administrators have a lot of deleting to do; but there are quite strict rules about what they can delete and why. This one was the result of a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hakan Serbes, and if you think it was wrongly decided, or you have more information, you can appeal at WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 22:16, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Has our childrens' TV fan now returned? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- If so, he's got a new IP - the last one is still blocked. I have semi-protected the article for three months. JohnCD (talk) 13:33, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
The more I look at this whole thing, the more I see an extensive and deliberate attempt at subversion spreading across a number of articles. This is clearly not someone here to improve the encyclopedia, but someone here to disrupt it quite seriously by implanting a blatant hoax supported by various falsehoods. My feelings are that the block should be raised to indef - what do you think? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:55, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- And he's made a legal threat, so I've upped it to indef. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:23, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- OK, I don't disagree. I was waiting for checkuser results from the SPI. I didn't indef at once because it looked as though he has done some good work on Afghan articles, for instance this chart, which may even be accurate - it certainly doesn't support his hoax. The way he is denying everything didn't impress me, though. JohnCD (talk) 12:48, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- OK, sounds good. I guess the next move depends on a combination of the SPI CU results and his response to the NLT block - I'll leave it to you. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- OK, I don't disagree. I was waiting for checkuser results from the SPI. I didn't indef at once because it looked as though he has done some good work on Afghan articles, for instance this chart, which may even be accurate - it certainly doesn't support his hoax. The way he is denying everything didn't impress me, though. JohnCD (talk) 12:48, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Thank you JohnCD for keeping Wikipedia free from vandalism and trolling! Happy Editing :) TheGeneralUser (talk) 14:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC) |
- Thank you! That'll be the day; and the real trick would be to keep it free of advertising and self-promotion. It's an unending struggle, but we keep plugging on... and thank you for doing the first-line patrolling that shows me where admin action is needed. JohnCD (talk) 16:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
some other socks of Snoopdobby
Hi, I see you blocked Snoopdobby... there are some obvious socks - doesn't seem to warrant an SPI, thought you might care to look at them? Thanks
Compare to Snoopdobby diff QU TalkQu 20:36, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. This is some silly idiot on Twitter. Blocked the accounts, not worth blocking most of the IPs. If he keeps it up, we can get an edit filter, but I expect he'll soon get bored even with this and go back to throwing stones at cats or writing his name on lavatory walls. JohnCD (talk) 20:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, appreciated - QU TalkQu 20:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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New Page Triage/New Pages Feed
Hey all :). A notification that the prototype for the New Pages Feed is now live on enwiki! We had to briefly take it down after an unfortunate bug started showing up, but it's now live and we will continue developing it on-site.
The page can be found at Special:NewPagesFeed. Please, please, please test it and tell us what you think! Note that as a prototype it will inevitably have bugs - if you find one not already mentioned at the talkpage, bring it up and I'm happy to carry it through to the devs. The same is true of any additions you can think of to the software, or any questions you might have - let me know and I'll respond.
Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:31, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your help! After I saw that my first page had been deleted before I had even realized it was marked for speedy deletion, I was concerned that Wikipedia might not be the place for me. But your help has put me on the right path and I once again have faith that Wikipedia editors are here to help. Your comments were very helpful, thank you very much!
Greyb1 (talk) 21:36, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I have updated (and I think drastically improved) the article that you helped me with earlier. Take a look if you like: User:Greyb1/CenterEdge Software. There is still more work to do, but you were a big help. Thanks, again. Greyb1 (talk) 03:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
ITOL
Yes I wasn't happy with it and tried to do it in a rush before I went out which is never a wise move for your 1st new Wiki page. I'll do some more digging on content. I created it because I had trouble finding a definition elsewhere !! There is a further complication that Itol is already there as a redirection to Polyol. I'll have a rethink. thanks Andrew Andrewdeacon51 (talk) 07:27, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Heidi Bedell Wikipedia page
Hi JohnCD, I note that you have deleted my page due to me being unimportant. You might be right but I am vain and I liked having it. In my defense, I'd like to point out a few things which may be noteworthy. I am the only Green politician to have stood in two different districts and won both times. I've never lost an election I stood for (that's only two, but still). With regard to my time as Chair of the National Council and National Co-ordinator: The Party suffered great losses in the 1999 election, the feeling in the party was very low. Because I had the time, I became the first full-time national co-ordinator in 1999. I poured my heart into the party and began to lift it up out of the doldrums. I was the co-ordinator when the party decided to elect a leader and when they decided to elect Trevor. In 1996 when Trevor and I first met, I acted as his image consultant, a role I continued to play to the party in general. When Trevor and I got engaged 2 weeks after we'd met, a number of comments were made that this had helped to secure his Malahide vote in the 1997 general election. I was the leader of the party up to 2001 and I was co-leader with Trevor up to 2003. I stepped down just before Stiofan Nutty was appointed General Secretary - a new role, now possible with the extra money that the 2003 election success had provided. I know the Green Party has had many 'ups and downs' through the years and there are many more to come, but that 'up' was my 'up' and it is currently invisible. I've never heard anyone ask - how did the green party go from 1 TD in 1996 to 6 TDs in 2003? Who was running the party before they had a leader?
I had never thought about this untill I completed a masters this year which included an interesting module on feminisim. It was during these lectures that I fully digested the claim that women tend to be written out of history. I can't help wondering if I was male would I have taken up more space in people's consciousness? Maybe not. Who really cares? I'd like my page back. Thanks.
83.141.92.24 (talk) 13:53, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- Your wish is my command: I have restored your article. However, there is a catch, and to explain it I need to explain some Wikipedia bureaucracy. I deleted it (two years ago) by a process called WP:Proposed deletion or PROD: any user who thinks an article should go can place a notice (PROD template) on it giving reasons. For seven days, any user who objects can simply remove the template. If, after seven days, no-one has done that, the article is deleted. As PROD is meant for uncontroversial deletions, a PRODded article is automatically restored on request, as I have now done.
- Once restored, it may not be PRODded again, but there is a more deliberate process, WP:Articles for deletion which involves a debate, again lasting seven days. I will notify user Snappy (talk), who PRODded your article, that it has been restored (with a link to this discussion) and he (or any user) may choose to nominate it at AfD.
- The issue is not importance, but Wikipedia:Notability, a term used in a particular sense in Wikipedia: it is required for any article subject, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." We try to avoid making subjective judgements about things like importance by asking a more objective question: is there evidence that people independent of the subject have thought her/him/it important enough to write substantial comment about? There is more detail at WP:Notability (people), particularly the section WP:POLITICIAN.
- There is nothing in the restored article which shows notability in that sense. I can understand why you feel that your behind-the-scenes role was important, but can you give references to independent sources (press, published memoirs... ) which confirm that?
- In regard to your own article you have, from our point of view, a WP:Conflict of interest, see also WP:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest and WP:Autobiography, and we would prefer that you did not yourself edit it directly. You are welcome to make suggestions, particularly to provide references, on the article talk page.
- Two more links - I am sorry to give so many: there is advice for people who are the subjects of Wikipedia articles at WP:Biographies of living persons/Help, and a "noticeboard" at WP:BLP/N where you can ask for assistance.
- Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:44, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Admin's Barnstar | |
Hi Sir it was nyc to read about you on your user page and thanks for such a wonderful cooperation to this open to all community...
Shalin Shivakant 19:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC) |
About Speedy Deletion Of Sri Prakasa Shukla Page
Hello Sir
Yes That page was on the Scribd.com with URL Thisbut actually it was a work of one of my friend kuldeep singh
So can you please tell me that how it is possible that Scribd Inc can claim for the copyright
Please describe this i am fully unknown with this..
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalintripathi (talk • contribs) 19:42, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- Short answer: at the foot of that page, it says "Copyright © 2012 Scribd Inc." Longer answer on your talk page later today. JohnCD (talk) 19:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Page: Adrian Starblanket (Deleted: 2010)
Hi, JohnCD.
I see there was a previous page in 2010 of: Adrian Starblanket on Wikipedia and Due to "Copyright" laws from: www.myspace.com/AdrianStarblanket that page was deleted.
But, I: ADRIAN STARBLANKET (ask nicely, if I can have that page back or am able to create a new one)?
I just signed on to Wikipedia and alot has changed from 2010-2012...
please message back,
sincerely, Adrian Starblanket — Preceding unsigned comment added by Astar2388 (talk • contribs) 08:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- We can't restore the 2010 page, for copyright reasons. If you own the text, you could make a formal copyright release, but that's not often worth doing because Myspace and Facebook pages are usually too promotional for an encyclopedia article. Writing an article about yourself is strongly discouraged, for reasons explained at Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia is not about YOU. More advice on your talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 11:45, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Recover deleted page - Holy Musical B@man! (soundtrack)
Do you mind recovering the above article you deleted today and put a copy in my user area? It will allow me to improve it when I get time. Eladkse (talk) 17:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Done. I have userfied it for you to User:Eladkse/Holy Musical B@man! (soundtrack). I'm not clear whether this is an album or just songs, but please read WP:NALBUMS and WP:NSONGS and understand that you need references about this to establish its own notability - it does not inherit any notability from the show. As it was deleted at AfD, you should not move it back to the mainspace without my agreement that you have overcome the issues from the AfD. If I don't agree, you can take it to WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 10:41, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was aware about the notability issues, but I just don't have the time and so I kept out of the actual vote. Eladkse (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC).
Paul McAneary Architects Ltd
Dear John, I'm writing from Paul McAneary Architects to ask whether you could tell us the reason why you deleted our page on the 7th Feb.2012. It's the first time we upload an article on Wikipedia and we would really appreciate any comments and suggestions to fix the article. Thank you Best wishes, Carlotta — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.148.97.147 (talk) 20:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- I deleted it because, seven minutes after user PaulMcAneary (talk · contribs) posted the article, he blanked it and replaced it with {{db-g7}}, which is a code meaning "author requests deletion". Seeing that he was a new user, I left a note on his talk page explaining that Wikipedia is not the sort of business listing site where people write about their own companies. See the WP:FAQ/Organizations for more advice. JohnCD (talk) 11:33, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Drew Stevyns Wiki Page
Hi Jonny,
I read over the deletion policy and I understand why the article that I post was delete. Would you be willing to restore my article to my sandbox so that I can work on it more? I will include some reference and give it more substance.
Sorry for posting this without good references. I will work on it more, until I get it right, Promise...
Thank you so much in advance.
Dstevyns (talk) 15:10, 25 May 2012 (UTC)DStevyns, (Mike Cullop, Drew's manager)
- I really think I will save you trouble by not doing this - explanation on your talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 16:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Upload a photo
Hi. This is DominiquesMusic, and I have one question.
On the page "Billboard (magazine)", it gives a picture of the company's logo. However, it does not have a picture of a magazine from Billboard.
Before I do anything, I wanted to know if it was possible to upload a picture of their magazine on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_(magazine)?
I do know there are certain types of photos that are allowed to be posted on here, and others who should not that have copyright on them.
I'm actually subscribed to them; so I get their magazine almost every week/every issue.
DominiquesMusic (talk) 17:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC) DominiquesMusic
- Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 14:37, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Need feedback
I'd like to draw your attention toward the article at User:Maharathi/sandbox and invite your valuable suggestions and feedback to improve the article. Maharathi (talk) 01:49, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- What do you say, John? It looks pretty good--but the references are not in my language. Drmies (talk) 02:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, guys, Maharathi invited me to this party as well (not sure why, but whatev), so I'll keep the discussion centralized here, if y'all don't mind. I made a first pass at some proofreading/copyediting; I'm hoping it'll be a bit better now. As to the content (and with deference to you guys, as I'm not very experienced in such things), it seems okay to me, but perhaps a little promotional. I'd say that the "philosophy of treatment" section could probably use some reworking to emphasize that it's Dr. Mani's views; I think this is needed since his views don't seem to agree with those of the medical community at large. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 05:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I noticed that Drmies G12 and G11'ed it last time. I'm having a great many problems verifying this in English, however. I find zero returns that aren't linkedin and facebook, no hits at hindustantimes.com or the Times of India website, which is troubling. I received my invitation this morning. I have to give them credit to taking the rock soup approach. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 10:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I could understand the difficulty faced by Dennis. The article, he searched online, was published in 1992 and none of the Indian newspaper were online that time. I could also understand that most of my references are in Hindi language because majority Indian speaks Hindi so the contribution of Hindi newspaper much larger than English newspaper. But I can assure all gentlemen with utmost responsibility that the inline citations used in the article are authentic, relevant to the content referenced and verifiable. The newspapers’ articles used as reference here aren’t online but the credibility of the newspaper can be verified itself on Wikipedia.
- I noticed that Drmies G12 and G11'ed it last time. I'm having a great many problems verifying this in English, however. I find zero returns that aren't linkedin and facebook, no hits at hindustantimes.com or the Times of India website, which is troubling. I received my invitation this morning. I have to give them credit to taking the rock soup approach. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 10:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, guys, Maharathi invited me to this party as well (not sure why, but whatev), so I'll keep the discussion centralized here, if y'all don't mind. I made a first pass at some proofreading/copyediting; I'm hoping it'll be a bit better now. As to the content (and with deference to you guys, as I'm not very experienced in such things), it seems okay to me, but perhaps a little promotional. I'd say that the "philosophy of treatment" section could probably use some reworking to emphasize that it's Dr. Mani's views; I think this is needed since his views don't seem to agree with those of the medical community at large. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 05:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Moreover, as far as I’m aware of the norms of verifiability on Wikipedia (I may be wrong), it isn’t required the source to be available online but must be published by a reliable source. The matter of verifiability should not be connected with easy availability of sources. Further, it isn’t required to provide convenience links for articles published in reputed newspapers.Maharathi (talk) 13:11, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Maharathi, you are correct--there are no such requirements. It helps, of course, to have online references in English so other editors, who aren't as multilinguistically blessed as you, can evaluate. But if those English online references aren't there that's not a reason to criticize the article. It does, however, place on you the burden to be as neutral as possible so Writ Keeper's editorial advice is worth taking. Thank you for working with the community! Writ Keeper, feel like moving the article to main space, if you think it's OK? Drmies (talk) 15:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think it looks pretty good. My concern about verification was mainly its chances at AFD if someone were to challenge it. There is one See Also, "Concern over antibiotics’ misuse". The Times of India (Patna). April 8, 2011. that I was not able to find, which was my main concern. They did not show an article of that title at the website, and I figured they would. Perhaps the date or title is incorrect? Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 15:59, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, yes. I generally approve of "Further reading" sections: I have the feeling these are articles by the subject. If so, I believe they should be cut, since we're not a bibliography. Drmies (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks to all contributors: yes, I think this is ready to go, and I have moved it to Dinesh Kumar Mani with just one tweak to the "Philosophy of treatment" section following up Writ Keeper's suggestion. Maharathi, congratulations on reacting in exactly the right way to having your first shot deleted, I look forward to your further contributions. JohnCD (talk) 16:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, all, I seem to have missed the action; this being Memorial Day weekend in the States, I was a good citizen and spent the day on the beach. I'd like to also congratulate Maharathi on rebounding from a speedy deletion to make a pretty decent article. Well done! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks to all contributors for their support and guidance without which I couldn’t present the article in the current form.Maharathi (talk) 01:35, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, all, I seem to have missed the action; this being Memorial Day weekend in the States, I was a good citizen and spent the day on the beach. I'd like to also congratulate Maharathi on rebounding from a speedy deletion to make a pretty decent article. Well done! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks to all contributors: yes, I think this is ready to go, and I have moved it to Dinesh Kumar Mani with just one tweak to the "Philosophy of treatment" section following up Writ Keeper's suggestion. Maharathi, congratulations on reacting in exactly the right way to having your first shot deleted, I look forward to your further contributions. JohnCD (talk) 16:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, yes. I generally approve of "Further reading" sections: I have the feeling these are articles by the subject. If so, I believe they should be cut, since we're not a bibliography. Drmies (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think it looks pretty good. My concern about verification was mainly its chances at AFD if someone were to challenge it. There is one See Also, "Concern over antibiotics’ misuse". The Times of India (Patna). April 8, 2011. that I was not able to find, which was my main concern. They did not show an article of that title at the website, and I figured they would. Perhaps the date or title is incorrect? Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 15:59, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Maharathi, you are correct--there are no such requirements. It helps, of course, to have online references in English so other editors, who aren't as multilinguistically blessed as you, can evaluate. But if those English online references aren't there that's not a reason to criticize the article. It does, however, place on you the burden to be as neutral as possible so Writ Keeper's editorial advice is worth taking. Thank you for working with the community! Writ Keeper, feel like moving the article to main space, if you think it's OK? Drmies (talk) 15:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Moreover, as far as I’m aware of the norms of verifiability on Wikipedia (I may be wrong), it isn’t required the source to be available online but must be published by a reliable source. The matter of verifiability should not be connected with easy availability of sources. Further, it isn’t required to provide convenience links for articles published in reputed newspapers.Maharathi (talk) 13:11, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Restoration to sandbox (2)
Hey JohnCD,
It took a lot of reading to chew through all the info on why my page was deleted and what I can do to restore it. I'm impressed with your dedication to Wikipedia and the work you've done. I'm requesting that the page Captain Timothy Edward Peterson, MD be restored to a sandbox so that I can continue working on it. I recognize that my sources were weak. With additional time to work on it I can supply more credible sources to legitimize the page.
Thank you,
speterhb — Preceding unsigned comment added by Speterhb (talk • contribs) 17:55, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- "This page is going to be used as an introduction for his new patients" - you're joking, right? One reference that is a list entry that shows he was at med school, one that is about a different Tim Peterson, two that don't mention him at all; jokey nonsense about "random acts of raucous" "the exoskeletal hexapod armies of Texas" and "the Great Potato Famine of Bancroft." If I were a new patient confronted with that, I would run a mile.
- Seriously, Wikipedia is not here to provide a bio of a newly-qualified doc for his patients. For that sort of thing you want Myspace. Reading through the nonsense, he (I presume, you) worked for a mission, tinkered in music a bit, and is now an Air Force Captain and a newly-qualified doctor. Good for him, but nothing there comes near the WP:Notability requirement to have an encyclopedia article, and I would only be wasting your time by letting you add more references. JohnCD (talk) 22:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Thanks John. I Actually felt like deleting the contents on my talk page. One of my friends and I went over my information. He said that the info should rather be on a blog versus being on WikiPedia. The information I posted described the differences in Urban contemporary and Rhythmic contemporary. However, I made a mistake by posting a fictional story, rather than information from the already-pages Urban and Rhythmic. Thanks for deleting it. I also received the policies as far as uploading photos. DominiquesMusic (talk) 23:00, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
- Thank you, again, but enough barnstars for now! I didn't delete that material, I only moved it to a sub-page and gave you a link to where it is now; but I did have some doubts about whether it was likely to become an article. The WP:No original research policy has an important section WP:SYNTHESIS: "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources." I think your friend was right, and if you agree that your story isn't really appropriate for Wikipedia, you can ask for it to be deleted by putting {{db-user}} at the top. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Backlog declogging.
Hello. Do you know any admin that regularly patrols WP:RFPP at this time of day? That page is currently backlogged with requests, including Eurovision-related articles and my requests for protection of Daigunder and Children's programming on NBC (regularly vandalized by the Indonesian misinformation vandal, nonetheless). - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 23:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry - you missed me, I am in UTC+1, so I am usually ceasing to be active by then. I see those have been taken care of, but I have seen other comments about backlogs at RFPP, so I will try to take a look at it more often. JohnCD (talk) 09:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Ryan Murphy (Australian Politician)
Hi,
I was writing to please ask you to restore the Ryan Murphy (Australian politican) page that was speedily deleted.
Following the 2012 Brisbane City Council election, Ryan Murphy was elected to be the member for Doboy Ward, defeating 28 year incumbent John Campbell. Ryan is the youngest elected member to Council this term and has recieved attention from newspapers couriermail.com.au and brisbanetimes.com.au. He is also listed on the official Brisbane City Council website and the information I put for Ryan far exceeds that listed for other Australian politicans, such as Verity Barton for example (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verity_Barton) , yet his page was deleted.
Example of notable press: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/lnp-welcomes-three-new-bcc-faces-20120429-1xsnm.html
Ryan Murphy's election credentials can also be found at the Electoral Commission of Queensland's (the body that runs Queensland elections) website: http://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/elections/local/LG2012/BrisbaneCity/results/councillor/district5.html
If I can provide any more information or references, I'd be most happy to do so to ensure this page is restored.
Thank you very much!
John Smith
Jsmith071991 (talk) 15:39, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- There are many substandard articles, so that What about that other article? is not generally an argument that is accepted; however, Verity Barton, as an MLA at the State level, is notable per WP:POLITICIAN, but Ryan Murphy as a city councillor is not. The issue is not how much information is in the article, but whether it shows notability in Wikipedia's terms. Your link is a local press article listing his name as one of three new councillors; that sort of thing, and "youngest elected member to Council this term." is not enough - see WP:42. JohnCD (talk) 17:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Deletion of the Rockett Movado articles
Hi, John!
I'm sorry about recreating the pages without first consulting you. I tried to send you a message about it earlier, but I couldn't figure out how to do it at the time (I'm fairly new to Wikipedia). I appreciate your correcting these articles, because they did not site any notible references. Wikipedia had warned me earlier that my pages needed to site such references, but I (again) did not know much about it, therefore I did not post any. I've searched for links to prove that these series are legitimate, but of course, sites like IGN and other gaming websites do not always provide clear information. I found some proof of the series on Amazon.com, but I do not know if that's truly an eligible reference. With all due respect, I'd love to keep my articles up, because I spent a lot of time and research conducting them, and I created these pages myself. I'd love to be able to provide information for the series for those who'd like to be in the know. Again, I'm very sorry for reposting these without your consent. I wish I could have figured out how to message you prior to what I did. But I do hope that you will forgive me, if possible, help me find some reliable sources so that I can keep my pages up (with your permission). I appreciate your time! Wikipedia looks great! Thanks for all you do!
-Yassigurl101 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yassigurl101 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- No problem, and now you have found how to contact me. I'm out of time tonight, but I will give some advice on your talk page tomorrow. One important point is that articles should not consist almost entirely of plot summary - you might like to look at WP:WAF. JohnCD (talk) 22:18, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. Have a great rest of the day!:) --Yassigurl101 (talk) 22:28, 28 May 2012 (UTC)Yassigurl101
Thank you
Hey JohnCD
Thanks for touching base with me. Will go through the list you sent me.