Talk:Eleanor Roosevelt

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Pronunciation

Explaining his preference for the pronunciation IPA: [ˈɛlɪnɔː ˈɹoʊzəvɛlt] over /ˈɛlɪnɔr ˈroʊzəvɛlt/, Timeineurope says, “rhotic and non-rhotic varieties of English are equally standard - in making a choice between them, the deciding factor is that Roosevelt was a non-rhotic speaker.” I agree that rhotic and non-rhotic accents are equally valid. But he is wrong to say that we have to make a choice between them.

As explained at Phoneme#Notation, square bracket notation [ ] indicates a phonetic transcription (showing the details of pronunciation), whereas slash notation / / indicates a phonemic transcription (showing only significant differences). So the phonemic pronunciation /ɔr/ indicates the sound of or in “for” (however it is pronounced in a given dialect). In a rhotic dialect it might be realized as [ɔɹ]; in a non-rhotic dialect as [ɔː]. Similarly /oʊ/ indicates a “long o.” In American English it might be realized as [oʊ] or [o]; in standard British English as [əʊ].

The fact that Mrs. Roosevelt was a non-rhotic speaker does not affect the way that people pronounce her name. She may have pronounced her name as [ˈɛlɪnɔː ˈɹoʊzəvɛlt], but it is factually wrong to say that is the way to pronounce it. If the article gives a phonemic pronunciation, it is not necessary either to choose one pronunciation or to give multiple pronunciations. (For those who are not interested in IPA let me explain that in plain English: With the phonemic pronunciation that I prefer, the last syllable of “Eleanor” is pronounced like “nor” (however the reader pronounces “nor”). With the phonetic pronunciation that Timeineurope prefers, it is pronounced like “gnaw” (irrespective of how the reader pronounces “nor”).) --teb728 22:27, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Aren't the schwas in Eleanor and Roosevelt the same? kwami (talk) 04:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Once again, this dispute about pronunciation has flared up. It should be resolved here without repeated article reversions, please. JGHowes ^talk - 16:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the precise phonetic realization listed here should simply be a normal American realization of the sequence of phonemes she used, which would be rhotic. Discussing whether Eleanor Roosevelt's accent was rhotic or not is splitting hairs. Using people's own phonetic realizations of their names would be an unworkable standard.

An unrelated pronunciation point: Merriam-Webster's Tenth Collegiate indicates that a schwa in -velt was the Roosevelts' own pronunciation. (Preferring their pronunciation in this regard does not contradict my previous point; this change would relate to the phoneme.) When the -velt part is pronounced with a full 'e' sound, that syllable should carry secondary stress. I am mentioning this here because there is a warning to discuss changes to pronunciation before editing. 136.152.224.19 (talk) 06:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was well-known that those two quite distant branches of the family pronounced their surname differently. Theodore said 'Rooz' and Franklin said 'Rose'. Whichever way Eleanor (related to both sides) pronounced her own name ought to be the way we say it when referring specifically to her. 86.171.216.122 (talk) 13:54, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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However, according to an audio tape that was available in the 1980s, "The Life and Times of Eleanor Roosevelt," Eleanor explains the pronunciation of the name "Roosevelt." The tape uses recordings from Eleanor as its primary narrative. Her explanation of the pronunciation is first-person. She says that the Teddy side of the family pronounced the name "Roose- (as in lose) uh-velt and Franklin's side of the family pronounced it Rose-uh-velt. She went on to explain that the two presidents were sixth cousins, of different political parties and they differed on many things, including the family-name pronunciation.

Lorena Hickok

Someone who watches this article and is familiar with the situation, might want to watchlist the Lorena Hickok article and confirm that the content there is proper. As well as List of LGBT couples. I figured this might not be correct since this there is no mention of this Hickok in this article. --Dual Freq (talk) 03:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

LGBT?

Are you sure she was part of the LGBT group. She was married to a man. Rio de oro (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

No, it seems to be pure speculation. While a lesbian friend was in love with her, there doesn't seem to be any strong evidence that she was a lesbian herself. This has been discussed above. --Nick Dowling (talk) 10:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Correspondence between Roosevelt and Hickok supports theories that Roosevelt may have at least been bisexual. References should be made to those letters because they do indicate a close and possibly intimate relationship existed between the two women. 02:35, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

The article states Eleanor Roosevelt wore a ring that Lorena Hickok gave her. Hickok's page states she was LGBT and that she lived on the Rooosevelt estate until her own death. If the lesbian attention repeatedly shown towards E. Roosevelt was unwanted and unreciprocated, she would not have accepted the ring, let alone worn it. Furthermore, Hickok would not have been allowed anywhere near the Roosevelt family or estate at all. Had the media and the public discovered a same-gender, extramarital affair of such a high-profile and high-status wife, it would have destroyed not only her reputation, but her husband's reputation and career as well - FDR would have been a laughing stock, and could not have continued his career. Its discovery, during the 1930s, would have brought great shame on the Roosevelt family. The fact that Hickok was so close to E. Roosevelt, with such high risks to their reputations, should the lesbianism have been discovered, proves that there was a reciprocal lesbian relationship that was very important to both women. How is that not considered sufficient proof that E. Roosevelt was lesbian or bisexual? She should be in at least one LGBT category. Werdnawerdna (talk) 10:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

None of this "evidence" is convincing. There is a passage in one of Eleanor's letters to Hickok which I'll paraphrase, which seems to refute any claims that she was a lesbian. Eleanor told Hickok in the letter that she did believe and value the fact that Hickok loved her. However, Eleanor continued, she herself had no such feelings as between women. She respected these feelings as legitimate, but they were foreign to her. To me, this passage shows Eleanor's rare compassion and understanding of others, as well as her honesty.

As for the frequently quoted line, in another letter, in which Eleanor says she wants to kiss Hickok--well, in those days, female friends were more soppy in general. (I don't know how else to put it.) It was common for women friends of all types and ages in that era to walk around hand in hand, or arm in arm, and to kiss. And finally, Eleanor's long, close and affectionate relationship with her burly male bodyguard Miller, extending to enjoying sports and private times together, suggests to me a discreet, quietly happy romance. Younggoldchip (talk) 21:53, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Roosevelt was very closely associated with lesbianism, however, she does not seem to have been one herself. In September 1899, her grandmother and aunt Bamie Cowles (Theodore Roosevelt's sister) sent her to the private, prestigious, all-girls Allenswood school in England, where the headmistress, Marie Souvestre, was a lesbian. This seemed to have little impact on the young Eleanor Roosevelt but her cousin, Corinne Alsop (nee' Robinson) could see something unusual in Souvestre's personal relationships. Her close lesbian friends from the 1930's even said that she was not a lesbian. Esther Lape, who survived Roosevelt by 19 years and stood to gain the most by saying she was a lesbian even stated that Roosevelt outright refused to engage in homosexual conduct. Her cousin, Alice Longworth, who had almost nothing good to say of Eleanor Roosevelt even vehemently denied the possibility of a lesbian relationship. Furthermore, James and Elliott Roosevelt, her sons who were not above saying or writing anything adverse of their mother did not believe she was a lesbian. Eleanor's granddaughter, Eleanor Seagraves stated that she believes her grandmother had a deep love for Hickok but was not in love with her nor engaged in a lesbian relationship. Someone in Roosevelt's inner circle would've easily noticed a relationship and homosexual relationships then stood out like a sore thumb because to be outed would've brought great shame, much more so then than today. In my opinion, Roosevelt seemed very sure of her sexual orientation and it was not homosexual. 15:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.23.47.66 (talk)

Clarification needed

There is a sentence which reads "[i]n November, 1903, they became engaged, although the engagement was not announced for more than a year, until December 1, 1904, at the insistence of FDR's mother, Sara Delano Roosevelt."

Sara Roosevelt's position is not clear.

Did she insist on the engagement being kept secret, or did she insist on its disclosure?

John Paul Parks (talk) 00:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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Further Clarification needed elsewhere

There are a few points in the introduction to the article which I think need addressing.

1) "She worked to enhance the status of working women, although she opposed the Equal Rights Amendment because she believed it would adversely affect women."

1a) what does "enhance" mean here? Should this read instead "argued for", or better, something less vague, more concrete: e.g. was she working with feminist organisations? 1b) what does "working women" mean here? Active in support of working-class women, or in supporting equal-employment rights for women, or something else? 1c) the article is overly-affirmative as a whole, and controversies such as her opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment (quoted above) should be used to critically qualify her alleged support for women's working rights.

2) "Roosevelt chaired the John F. Kennedy administration's ground-breaking committee which helped start second-wave feminism, the Presidential Commission on the Status of Women"

2a) this is a generalisation that is not backed up in any way; moreover, it seems to be untrue. "Second-wave" feminism is dated much further back; it is a mass-movement (not purely legislative or intellectual, nor State driven); in fact, the commission may be seen as a placatory measure which didn't lead to any significant gains for women's rights - quite the opposite. On all these points, it is enough to consult <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-wave_feminism>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-wave_feminism</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Commission_on_the_Status_of_Women">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Commission_on_the_Status_of_Women</a> to realise there are some problems. 2b)frankly, given the above, the idea that the committee was "ground-breaking", and that it "helped start second-wave feminism" is insulting to the work and achievements of feminist activists. 2c) more critical attention needs to be given in the article to the way in which Roosevelt was used as a figure who could appeal to "both sides" of the debate about women's rights, and the way in which E.R. is arguably representative of a fairly conservative and patriarchal Liberal politics, rather than of a radical (i.e. ground-breaking) agenda. This links in with the larger struggle to maintain the Liberal consensus in the 60s.

I hope these comments are useful. Wit —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.210.237 (talk) 11:13, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

"Anti-Catholic"

I appreciate the cites, but I still feel there needs to be a specific quote or attribution that says of her that she was anti-Catholic in order for the "she's not anti-Catholic" quote to stay. Otherwise it's a pre-emptive defence and unbalanced. Surely Spellman said something? Slac speak up! 04:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

This is what I've found about ER's prejudices on Catholics:

Smith, Jean Edward FDR, p. 77, Random House, 2007 ISBN 978-1-4000-6121-1:

"Both he [FDR] and Eleanor shared the anti-Irish, anti-Catholic prejudices of their time and class.* ...

*ER's feelings never completely changed. 'Franklin was always surrounded by Catholics,' she told her friend Irine Sandifer in 1960. "They were determined to see that he was always surrounded.' Irine Reiterman Sandifer, Mrs. Roosevelt as We Knew Her 86 (Silver Spring, Md.: privately printed, 1975)."

Smith, p. 148 (also view on Jews):

"Despite her wide exposure, some prejudices died hard. Eleanor never felt completely comfortable with the Roman Catholic clergy and the Irish politicians with whom FDR consorted, and her tolerance for those of the Jewish faith grew slowly.* Eleanor was distressed in January 1918 when she was obliged to attend a gala given by the British Embassy to honor Bernard Baruch, then head of the War Industries Board. It would be 'mostly Jews,' she wrote her Sara, and 'I'd rather be hung than seen there.' Afterward she reported, 'The Jew party was apalling. I never wish to hear money, jewels, and sables menioned again.'

Several months later Eleanor was surprised when FDR brought the young Harvard professor and Washington consultant Felix Frankfurter home for lunch. She found Frankfurter unappealing. 'An interesting little man,' she wrote Sara, 'but very Jew.' Later she would refuse to read Maurice Low's interpretive biography of Woodrow Wilson because the author was 'such a loathsome little Jew.' Blanche Wiesen Cook, Eleanor's elegant biographer, noted, 'ER's caustic comments concerning Jews remained a routine part of her social observation for many years, diminishing as her friendship with Baruch and other Jews flourished.'

FDR did not have that problem..."

Vints (talk) 09:12, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

World War II: championing Americans of Japanese ancestry

I saw claims that ER advocated that those in Hawaii not be interned, among other things. With more documentation, this would be worth inclusion. Source: this documentary shown on PBS http://www.thefirstbattle.com/ DHR (talk) 06:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Languages

An amusing comment by Gore Vidal:

You know, she came to the White House speaking six or seven languages. Roosevelt couldn’t do restaurant French.[1]

However, the article only mentions her speaking French... GregorB (talk) 19:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, that goes to Vidal's reliability.THD3 (talk) 00:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace

Her birthplace as "New York City" is not certain. It needs a citation, I have a citation that she was not. Wjhonson (talk) 21:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Lucy Mercer

I find that some of the wording regarding the Franklin's affair with Lucy Mercer ("...the affair continued right up until Franklin's death") is misleading. It makes it seem that FDR saw Lucy on a regular basis, when in fact their contact stopped from 1918 until the 1930s. From then until Franklin's death, he saw her sporadically, although the frequency increased in the last year of his life. Also, I'm adding a citation request for Theodore Roosevelt's reaction to the affair. I'm fairly well read on the Roosevelts and have never come across information indicating TR knew.THD3 (talk) 00:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I recall reading one of Roosevelt's son's opinion that his father and Lucy Mercer could not possibly have had a physical affair after FDR became an invalid. "He was paralyzed from the waist down," as the son put it. Also, a reporter who frequently saw Roosevelt being transferred from car to wheel chair, etc. has said that he was completely helpless in these transfers. He was moved "like a sack of potatoes" by others. This suggests that although Roosevelt and Lucy Mercer continued as companions, their sexual affair was long over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Younggoldchip (talk • contribs) 22:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC) Younggoldchip (talk) 22:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Last name / first name

Is there a reason Roosevelt is referred to (fairly consistently) as "Eleanor" throughout the article? Doesn't MOS say we should call her "Roosevelt"? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Fixed, except in some paragraphs where it was necessary to call all the family members by first name, as suggested in Mos:Bio. Some other people were also improperly referred to (by first name or initials) and I've fixed that as well. One question: an advisor or relative named Corinne is referred to in the section on Franklin's affair, but no last name is given. Does anyone know her surname? Ariadne55 (talk) 02:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

That must be Corinne Roosevelt Robinson - she's referred to earlier in the article as "Corinne Robinson". Thanks for fixing those :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the name and wikilink :-) I've added them. Ariadne55 (talk) 06:44, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Health and age

A section on Roosevelt's health should be added. For a woman of great energy, she must've overcome many health maladies during her life. She apparently was self-disciplined to have had such weak health as indicated by her short life of only seventy-eight years. 02:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

'Short' life?! Her lifespan was much longer than average for the time, even for a rich person. Look at life expectancy statistics over time. Note that lives were then, on average, far shorter than they are today. Werdnawerdna (talk) 09:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Her aunt Corinne Robinson died in 1933 at age 71, and her aunt Anna Cowles was 76 when she died in 1931. Theodore Roosevelt's wife was 87 in 1948 at her death. So the ages stayed fairly consistent over thirty years. Even her cousins, Corinne Alsop (died aged 84), Ethel Derby (died aged 86) and Alice Longworth (died aged 96) had longer, far longer lifespans than Roosevelt. Also, her maternal grandmother who died in 1919 lived to be 76 years old. I can't help but believe that 78 years is not that long of a life to live. 13:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.77.153 (talk)

Seventy eight years is not a short life by any standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.252.183.253 (talk) 04:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Punctuation

Not going to bother signing in for this one because it's a minor point. I cannot even read this article because the punctuation is AWFUL. FYI, periods and commas go INSIDE quotation mards. Elipses are three periods "..." not as long as you want them "........" 198.135.224.110 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC).

How are you going to complain about punctuation when your diction is off? I suspect that when you wrote "mards," I believe you were trying to say "marks." The authors of the article are just as careless as you are. This is a "No Stone Throwing Zone."

FDR's choice of a wife

FDR probably should've chosen Alice Roosevelt as his wife instead of Eleanor Roosevelt. She was prettier than Eleanor Roosevelt, lived much longer (this would have put her near the top of the list for longevity of First Ladies), unlike ER's lack of longevity and was a more outgoing person than ER. 02:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Please reserve the Talk page for discussions about the articles content, not comments about the subject(s) of the article. But since we're on the subject, FDR came to detest Alice. At one point, he told Eleanor "I don't want to see that woman ever again."THD3 (talk) 11:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

He only came to detest Alice Longworth after she stated she would rather vote for Hitler rather than vote for FDR for a third term. Had they been married, the relationship would've been much different. 01:47, 10 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.23.42.218 (talk)

How do you know? Really, how DO you know? Lash's biography, probably the most accurate b/c he interviewed Longworth while alive, does not indicate in any way that she was interested in FDR as a husband or anything else. She thought he was a lightweight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.252.183.253 (talk) 04:37, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Alice does not appear to have been interested in anyone except Alice. But that is understandable. Her mother died near the time of her birth, and her father abandoned her to the care of relatives for two years while he "found himself" on a cowboy ranch out West.John Paul Parks (talk) 17:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Portrait

Why does it keep getting swapped in and out? --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 21:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Someone again replaced the White House portrait in the Infobox with file:Eleanor Roosevelt portrait 1933.jpg, without any explanation or consensus to do so. I've reverted the change, absent any consensus that this soft focus, 1933 b&w photo (below, left) is preferable to her White House portrait (right):                    
                    —  JGHowes  ^talk 00:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

If one of the miracle workers over at Commons could clean up the 1933 image, I could support using it instead of the White House painting. - ✰ALLST☆R✰ ^echo 22:03, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I think the White House painting has to be changed...it's blurry, in .gif format (not ideal for this type of image), and in a decorative composition. We need a photographic portrait. Connormah (talk) 03:38, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Can I size this image properly or do we need a quorum for that? ;) The imagesize is only 177px so the default of 200px causes pixelation, or the "blurry" mentioned above. Thanks Hutcher (talk) 04:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I would support using the 1933 photo over the official White House portrait for the main photo. Somebody should bring it to Graphic lab if there are really that many concerns about the presentation of the image. But they should definitely be swapped. Happyme22 (talk) 00:54, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

EncyMind (talk) 22:59, 23 June 2011 (UTC)Yousuf Karsh did a stunning portrait of ER. http://www.geh.org/ne/mismi3/m198130600026_ful.html ER kept her hands busy - often knitting while talking. That is why her hands are a focus of the portrait. Most of Karsh's work is in the public domain. I am still learning my way around, have not figured out how to upload works in the public domain to Wikimedia Commons, but, if someone is adept at that, this might be a good portrait.

An Eleanor quote

The Neptune Society keeps sending me suggestions, along with this quote attributed to Eleanor: "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift; That's why they call it the present." Anybody know where/when/whether she said this? If genuine, might be added somewhere. JohnClarknew (talk) 08:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Weird sentence

In November 1905, they became engaged, although the engagement was not announced until December 1, 1904, at the insistence of Franklin's mother, Sara Delano Roosevelt.

How were they engaged in 1905, but announced it in 1904? Is it suppose to be December 1, 1905? --Ted87 (talk) 19:23, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

History

The line "She handed the phone to Smith and the rest is history." can only lead one to question the position of wikipedia as an at all credible historical resource. What kind of treatise on history would contain such a vacuous remark. Please would somebody with an apt knowledge of the history of 20th century American politics insert a description of whatever event it is that "is history". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.116.219 (talk) 00:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Introduction for The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank

I read that Eleanor Roosevelt did an introduction for this book. It's pretty notable. 70.15.212.110 (talk) 18:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Royal Visit by George VI & Elizabeth

Due to the Statue of Westminster, I had thought that the Royal couple in question was the Canadian Royal family, as they had also accepted the new Ambassador from the US to Canada.

Vuarra (talk) 21:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC) Vuarra Aug. 4, 2010 17:32 EDT

Franklin D. Roosevelt

Can you please put a small over view of "FDR" when you mention him? That would make your article a lot better. Was Eleanor against Japanese people in WW2? Thanks! FalconClasher (talk) 21:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

She was a racist - hated Japanese. But so were most Americans in the 1940's. Pre-war most Americans hated "blacks". Nowadays most Americans hate Muslims. Is America full of hate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 02:18, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Your comments are pretty hateful. Get a life.97.73.64.160 (talk) 23:54, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

And our reaction after Pearl Harbor was supposed to be what?John Paul Parks (talk) 17:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Fun Facts About Eleanor Roosevelt

She was Theodore Roosevelt's niece. Franklin D. Roosevelt her husband was also her distant cousin. FDR called her Babs. Her mother called her Granny because she was so serious and old-fashioned. The only thing she knew how to cook was scrambled eggs. She wrote a syndicated colunm called "My Day"from 1935 to 1962.

Trivia or relevant?

This recording is referenced at William Mayer and The Little Orchestra Society (i added the ref of the actual album in my possession), but im not sure its that notable. I gather she did a lot of humanitarian and cultural projects, this may not deserve a mention in her article.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:37, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Lesbian

It seems fairly clear that she was a lesbian. Shouldn't that be stated in the article, rather than hinted at?

If men were not welcome into her press conferences, isn't that discrimination? The justification was that "female journalists were so heavily discriminated against". Isn't that an absurd contradiction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 02:16, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

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First meeting with FDR.

The article states that Eleanor met Franklin for the first time after she finished high school. I don't think that's true. I remember reading that they danced together at a ball when she was about fourteen years old.97.73.64.160 (talk) 23:56, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

If you can make proper citations from a reliable source, by all means go ahead and change it. Googol30 (talk) 02:09, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Current Photo is not a picture of Eleanor Roosevelt

I just wanted to bring to everyone's attention that the main photo for the article is not a photo of Eleanor Roosevelt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.174.238 (talk) 19:29, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Which image are you talking about? Nick-D (talk) 07:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Roosevelt death from TB

Wikipedia article states that Roosevelt died from latent TB which was re-activated after having been put on steroids. It is correct that this is what the pathologists guessed at the time of her autopsy. However, it has been recently hypothesized that she might have acquired a new strain of TB since it turned out the strain she died from was resistant to INH and streptomycin: If the TB strain that killed her had been latent prior to the discovery of antibiotics (as it was known she contracted TB in 1919), the strain found on autopsy should have been susceptible to INH at the time of re-activation; thus mycobacterial chemotherapy should have treated her miliary TB. Persist (talk) 01:03, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Hot Dogs

Regarding the visit of King George and Queen Elizabeth and the serving of hot dogs: 1) The reference for this is currently a dead link. I have found the new URL for the same reference, so the link should be updated to: http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/royalv.html, 2) I think a phrase should be added that hot dogs were only one thing on the menu, with more "adult" fare also being served, as shown in the full menu displayed at the same reference, and 3) There is a great letter from Queen Elizabeth where she clearly states that "the children were thrilled... with the hot dogs!" at http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/queensre.html 70.36.142.82 (talk) 09:13, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation

According to an audio tape that was available in the 1980s, "The Life and Times of Eleanor Roosevelt," Eleanor explains the pronunciation of the name "Roosevelt." The tape uses recordings from Eleanor as its primary narrative. Her explanation of the pronunciation is first-person. She says that the Teddy side of the family pronounced the name "Roose- (as in lose) uh-velt and Franklin's side of the family pronounced it Rose-uh-velt. She went on to explain that the two presidents were sixth cousins, of different political parties and they differed on many things, including pronunciation of the family name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.16.96.243 (talk) 08:56, 12 July 2012 (UTC)