Talk:Karl Marx

Place of marriage

I know this is a very minor issue, but the often-cited claim that Marx married in the Pauluskirche is probably false, as that church underwent a major a renovation in 1843. Thus, nearby Wilhelmskirche is the most likely place of marriage. I'm referring here to a historiography published in 1951 (Geschichte der evangelischen Gemeinde Kreuznach) which has been cited by a local newspaper recently, so I'm going to look that up in the German National Library. Just to let you know, 'cause probably every source published in the last 50 years claims otherwise, and sooner or later someone will insist on their factual accuracy. --Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 18:47, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

So I finally looked it up, and the statement about the renovation seems to be correct. The Wilhelmskirche was the only other church building of the town's Evangelical church parish at the time, so it can be assumed they married there. --Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 09:53, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Globalisation

cf David Renton (2001) "Introduction" Marx on Globalisation David Renton ed., London: Lawrence and Wishart ISBN: 0 85315 909 2. Fifelfoo (talk) 09:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

eBookEden

I have pulled eBookEden as a reference from this article, as it is a circular source. See also Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Def#eBookEDEN.com. The source was added to this article in April 2011, long after the content which it supports. And tracing the history of this article shows plenty of signs that they copied from us. Take, for instance, the first paragraph they offer on the Communist Manifesto:

Manifesto of the Communist Party (German: Manifest der Kommunistischen Partei), often referred to as The Communist Manifesto, was first published on February 21, 1848, and is one of the world's most influential political manuscripts. Commissioned by the Communist League and written by communist theorists Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, it laid out the League's purposes and program. However, Marx does not have a lot to say about the precise form that communism would take, focusing instead on an analytical approach to the class struggle (historical and present) and the problems of capitalism.[1]

We can see the seeds of this language in the earliest edit we have (from 2001) for the article The Communist Manifesto: "one of the world's most influential political tracts". We can watch this develop in the text it would later become...

• October 2002 added "Commissioned by the Communist Party and written by founding Communist theorists Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, it laid out the purposes and program of the Communist Party of its time."
• February 2003 added the precise date of publication
• The alternate title enters in June 2004
• The original title in German was added in December 2005 and corrected in September 2006 by somebody else
• Polished in October 2006, February 2008, May 2008
• A sentence was removed (probably vandalism) in November 2008
• The sentence "However, Marx does not have a lot to say about the precise from that communism would take" is added in November 2008.
  • That sentence is expanded in February 2009 with the addition of "focusing instead on an analytical approach to the problems of capitalism"
  • It was expanded further later that month with the addition of "the class struggle (historical and present) and"

At the point of the last diff, the lead paragraph is identifiable as that from the eBookEden publication, and the natural evolution of that content in Wikipedia is clear.

Since eBookEden copies from Wikipedia, it is inherently unreliable. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Moonriddengirl, that looks like a significant improvement. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 20:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Founder of Social Science

Hello:

I have a suggestion for editing that you might like to consider. In the "Founder of Social Science" section, it says that "unlike philosophers, Marx offered theories that could be proven by the scientific method." I don't think this is correct because philosophy can be proven by the scientific method. Insofar as logic is part of the scientific method, so then is philosophy. As other examples, Aristotle's theories often attempted to prove things emperically, and so did other emperical philosophers like Hume and Locke. So....I think this statement in the section is misleading. In fact, the statement concerning Marx being the founder of Social Science would also be untrue since empericist philosophers before him could also be credited with proving things emprically. In all, the section rests on the assumption that philosophy and empericism are different, and that empericism is social science, while philosophy is not. That needs some kind of reference.

Thanks for your time!

70.72.45.98 (talk) 22:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)