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Just thought I should bring this interesting new article to your attention. - Ipigott (talk) 07:42, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ipigott, it is encouraging to see progress in this direction. --ELEKHHT 01:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Kairo Ibn Tulun Moschee BW 4.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Makeemlighter (talk) 05:15, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding the image on flickr and adding it to Commons and to the article. -- The Anome (talk) 22:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the merit is of the flickr author, who following my request released it under a free license. I'm glad you find it valuable. --ELEKHHT 22:57, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Credo Reference

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POTD notification

POTD

Hi Elekhh,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:The PEFO Tepees.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on August 27, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-08-27. howcheng {chat} 17:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hi, How have I engaged in sustained disruptive editing? Welshboyau11 (talk) 04:04, 2 September 2012 (UTC) Look at the sources I have found: [reply]

Extended content

Welshboyau11 (talk) 04:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By doing many things listed at Wikipedia:Disruptive editing and not following talk page guidelines, in particular POV pushing, spamming talk pages, provocations... Why don't you take a break as others have pledged to do and let the rest of the Wikipedia community handle this. There are over 100,000 active editors, and now that the issue has been brought to their attention both at WP:NPOVN and WP:ANI it might even be constructively handled. --ELEKHHT 04:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a point of view thing. Look at the sources above. Timeshift has been provoking as the other editor noted. But you singled me out. And he only just edited the page again. I am honestly not trying to 'spam'. Welshboyau11 (talk) 04:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, what are the misleading comments???? Welshboyau11 (talk) 04:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Online Ambassador

Hi Elekhh! Are you interested in being the Online Ambassador for any classes this term? We've got a few classes that are looking for ambassador right now (Canada, US), so if you're up for helping any, please do! Let me know if you have any questions, or if you'd like me to pick a course for you.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 14:21, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for reminding me. I'm taking Discover New York. --ELEKHHT 02:12, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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What is architecture, what is art?

Well I don't really expect a philosophical 7 pages essay (not that I wouldn't appreciate it, though) but here goes: In Denmark, photographs of sculptures in the public realm that are still protected by copyrights are only allowed if they qualify as freedom of panorama. It is of course very relevant that some peiple makes an effort to keep commons free of copyright infringements but I have even experienced that someone challanged an image based on the fast that the sculptire stood on a plinth created by an architect who hadn't been dead for 70 years while the artist had. As I see it, a plinth is not a work of art but a piece of architecture/design. It is is not (just) there to look good but serves a purpose. Just as the case is for buildings, walls, benches, bowls and all sorts of other stuff. Sure they can be very ornate, by all means, also part of the decorative appeal of the combined works, but that goes for all the above as well - many modern design objects are certainly more there for their looks than their practical use - but that still doesn't make them works of art protected as such. A plinth is there to put stuff on them, just like some fancy fruit bowl is there to put fruit in it even if the fruit would be better of somewhere else. Furthermore, in cases where these plinths are in fact destinctive-looking and the author is seperately credited, my next argument would be that they are notable in there own right and thus a legitimate subject for phptpgraphic documentation – which in turn makes the associated work of art legitimate under freedom of panorama. I would of course not use this reasoning in cases where the sculpture stands on a plain granite block but when it comes to early 20th century sculptury in the public realm in Denmark, it is rather the rule than the exception that they are placed on plinths designed by seperately credited and often leading architects. In support of my view, the architect is in such cases systematically credited in various databases of public art (as creator of the plinth) and literature such as the Danish biographical Weilbach encyclopedia which covers both architects and artists and list them under works. They are also included in the relevant architects' biographies on Danish wikiepdia. To me that is a clear indication of notability.

I therefore wonder if Wikipedia has a stand on this or could/should get one? It would make it a lot easier than to take the discussion again and again with specific images. And it would avoid wasting other people's time if the conclusion is that the reasoning is not valid. Any chance that you have an opinion in this= Now it ended up being my question that was 7 pages long, sorry about that.:)Ramblersen (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ramblersen, the problem is that Commons does not operate in Wikipedia's educational interest, neither does it follow opinion or consensus formed here. So regardless of what we think to be reasonable it is the committed wikilawyers' interpretations on Commons which determines whether a file is kept or not. The process is random and decisions are inconsistent. The status quo is to consider paranoia as "reasonable", and thus delete everything which any user has "doubts" about, without any requirement to follow a common sense investigation on the matter. For these reasons and because of lack of collaboration in addressing these issues, I mostly have withdrawn from participation there.
Regarding the specific case you describe, I think the general consensus among Commons-wikilawyers is that any building or part of it designed by an architect is protected by copyright. I've seen images of standard steps or pavement deleted!. In the same time images of Corbu's famous Villa La Roche have been kept as "lacking originality" :). So the way forward in such cases could be (1) defend the image on basis of de minimis or "lack of originality" ; (2) if deleted, upload your image on en.Wiki with the whole set of disclaimers like at File:VillaSavoye.jpg (this applies to architecture only, can't do it with sculptures). Other Wikis like the German Wiki allow uploading your images regardless of FOP in foreign countries (example). (3) Lobby for a new media repository "Commons Educational" which would allow images with non-commercial restriction, so that Wikipedias can illustrate 20th century art and architecture. --ELEKHHT 21:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your answer and yes I guess I should have asked you on the wikipedia commons talk page but I just tend to forget about the difference, probably in denial here since all the red links from deleted files dreate such a bad atmosphere on mine.:) There is no problem when it comes to buildings in Denmark since the law explicitly exclude them from copyright protection so my thoughts regarded the sculptures. What I wondered was if seeing the plinth as a notable, architectural work could be used as, well an excuse, for uploading images of protected sculptures in some cases. But based on your answer - which very well fits my own experiences there - I guess it would be pretty optimistic to that such an argumentation would go through. I guess I will just have to be patient and wait for the artists to have been dead for a really long time, good thing some of them died young!.)Ramblersen (talk) 23:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes, that would be a rather hopeless case. If there is an article on the German wiki where it would fit, you can upload it there right now, rather than "being patient" half a century :) If you need help let me know. Another, laborious way, is to contact the heirs of the artist and ask for permission. --ELEKHHT 23:33, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome

Hello, Just thought I would say thanks for the welcome, and any suggestions to improve my articles would be greatly appreciated. Prufrok11 (talk) 11:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please send me ...

an e-mail from my userpage. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of Danish architects

Hello Elekhh. I think you may be able to shed some useful light on a discussion that is taking place in connection with the red links which have recently been added to this list. Rather than repeat all the background, I suggest you look at User talk:Sionk, User talk:Ipigott and Talk:List of Danish architects. Key questions appear to be whether red links should be maintained in such lists without references, whether it is advisable to strive to cover all 650 Danish architects from the Danish wiki with stubs in English (and possibly repeating the approach for other countries/languages), or whether it would be more productive to concentrate efforts in the first instance on developing biographies of the more prominent or notable individuals in the light of coverage in the Danish wikipedia and other sources. --Ipigott (talk) 16:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GFDL

There is a discussion at Commons:Commons_talk:Featured_picture_candidates#Proposal:_Change_to_FP_criteria_for_new_nominations:_disallow_.22GFDL_1.2_only.22_and_.22GFDL_1.2_and_an_NC-only_license.22. Please participate. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 16:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I am not participating in Commons FP any longer. --ELEKHHT 00:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bjarke Ingels and photo

At your suggestion, I've been doing quite a bit of work on Ingels and his projects. Thanks for going through 8 House. Maybe it's material for a DYK? The real reason I'm writing, though, is that Dr. Blofeld very sensibly cropped the photo of Ingels for the box in the Bjarke Ingels article. However the image in the box is a warped uncropped verson. Can you help or will it be necessary to recrop and use a new file name? --Ipigott (talk) 07:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might be just a temporary cache issue, by me it appears right. The crop is good, probably don't need a separate uncroped version. Great to see the new wave of improvements to Danish architecture articles! Made a quick DYK nomination, but as I am not very active these days, would be good if you can also keep an eye on that page. --ELEKHHT 07:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It was indeed a cache problem on my machine. Stupid of me not to think of it myself. --Ipigott (talk) 11:12, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did say it would be the server delay/cache thing. Sometimes it takes half a week!..♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:52, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of 8 House

Hello! Your submission of 8 House at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:54, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bicycle share table

I've supported your suggestion in List of bicycle sharing systems. Pedalissimo (talk) 13:30, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, done. --ELEKHHT 00:22, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nice job. Pedalissimo (talk) 06:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Supporting GAN! Consider reviewing today! :)

I've noticed you're interested in supporting GA! :) That is fantastic. Please consider reviewing a Good Article nominee to help in the 450+ article review backlog! :) Your assistance and support of Good Article is appreciated. :) Clearing the backlog is important in terms of recognising quality work by Wikipedia's contributors! --LauraHale (talk) 03:40, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 8 House

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blackford County Courthouse

Thank you for your review of Blackford County Courthouse. My town will get hit by a hurricane in the the next 24 to 36 hours, and we are expected to lose power. (Last hurricane, we lost power for 5 days.). Your comments are appreciated, and I will work to address them—but it may take a week or two.TwoScars (talk) 21:21, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Elekhh—thanks again for reviewing Blackford County Courthouse. We will lose power tonight, and much of the region is shut down already. I believe I have addressed most of your concerns/suggestions already. I will not be able to convert the diagram to a jpg file until public transportation is restored and businesses reopen. I have not been able to figure out how to alter the NRHP template infobox, and noticed that most of the FA and GA related to NRHP use the template with the pushpins and state maps. I think it would be great to replace the state map with the county map (currently commented out), but that is beyond my ability.TwoScars (talk) 18:05, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TwoScars, and thanks for the excellent improvements. I managed to change the map in the infobox. Sorry I just noticed a potential copyright issue with one of the images, as indicated on the review page, but otherwise all looks ok. Hope the monster storm passed without too much damage, and you'll come back to editing soon. --ELEKHHT 04:58, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated Portal:Society for featured portal candidacy, discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Society.

Note: I'm notifying you because previously commented at the featured portal candidacy discussion for Portal:Arts at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Arts, and it'd be nice to have a relatively more prompt resolution on this particular one as it's also part of the Main Page Featured Portal drive.

Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 06:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Society

I've responded at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Society, I could really use some help with this one, if you wanted to be more specific about which entries to swap out, and what to include instead, etc. Also if you wanted to help pitch in and do some of that legwork yourself as well, especially seeing as how this one is part of the Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Main Page Featured Portal drive, I'd really appreciate it, — Cirt (talk) 17:22, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A quick update, I'm still in the process of addressing concerns, but as a stopgap for now, I've removed and swapped out most of the issues complained about. Pending still ongoing process of selecting various new entries, instead. :) — Cirt (talk) 18:41, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I've gone ahead and added more specific responses at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Society, noting the changes I've made to try to address your helpful suggestions, hopefully to your satisfaction. :) I hope you're doing well, — Cirt (talk) 19:19, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

H. T. Cadbury-Brown

Hi Elekhh, after a long absence I've written an article about the modernist H. T. Cadbury-Brown. If you had a chance to read it through and rate it I would appreciate it! Thanks. Kenchikuben (talk) 20:53, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]