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Equipment of the Bangladesh Army

User:Sylheti Soldier has been adding copyrighted and very iffy images to Equipment of the Bangladesh Army and List of aircraft of the Bangladesh Air Force following his block a number of IPs continued to add images and data to these two articles. I have now semi-protected both articles for a while but the IPs latest is to dump the article on to the talk page. Not an expert on Army stuff so would appreciate project members keeping an eye on these two articles particularly when protection ends. Also note User:Sylheti Soldier is now flikr washing images before uploading them to commons thinking we would not notice! Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 12:09, 3 April 2013 (UTC)+

There seems to be an general outbreak of this kind of stuff affecting articles on national militaries at the moment. April must be the month for posting your fantasy air force or army on Wikipedia.... Nick-D (talk) 11:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

FOIA document questions

Relating to past discussions regarding the articles Salvatore Giunta, Leroy Petry, and unit citations as personal permanent wear items, the United States Army fulfilled my FOIA request and have emailed me redacted copies of documents that support certain unit citations. That being said, these documents are not posted online, and thus are not easily citable. Can I upload these scans to Wikisource, and if I did are they usable as reliable sources to verify content in the article? Also are there any identity theft or MOS:BLP issues that I should be aware of before such an upload?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:23, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

They'd probably qualify as reliable sources. The questions around identity theft and privacy obviously depend on what information is in these documents; you could ask for views at WP:BLPN, but the general rule is to strongly err on the side of caution out of respect to individuals. You can cite primary sources in your possession for uncontroversial facts without having to upload the documents anywhere; just cite whatever the documents' names and any reference numbers are. Nick-D (talk) 11:20, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks I have uploaded the scanned forms onto Wikicommons. I will now use them in the articles in question.

• File:Leroy Petry.pdf
• File:Giunta DD Form 214 Redacted.pdf

--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

New Post-nominal template

A new Post-nominal template has recently surfaced on my journey through wikipedia. So far there is one for Australia and New Zealand found here respectively; Template:Post-nominals/AUS and Template:Post-nominals/NZL.

This template seems really simple and easy to use, I have already used it on Quentin Bryce's page. Your thought's everyone? Nford24 (Want to have a chat?) 11:22, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Assistance request

Currently building an article at my sandbox here. I would appreciate any help, as i'm going to be busy today. There are some more articles with coverage on google. Really wish I had more time to devote to it, but I think she is a notable Soldier, who deserves an article. Also, an issue maybe someone could address, the first article states that Ft. Fort McClellan is in Georgia, but our article states it is in Alabama. Also, that article states that the city was given an award by Atlanta. WTF? Sephiroth storm (talk) 13:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I've been to Fort McClellan, near Anniston, Alabama. Rjensen (talk) 13:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Fort McPherson is in Atlanta, south of the city by the Airport. It's either closed or is on it's way to being closed Bwmoll3 (talk) 14:44, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

12th Reconnaissance Squadron

This article has been extensively revised and expanded. It would be appreciated if some interested editors could have a go reviewing and making corrective edits please. Thank you :) Bwmoll3 (talk) 14:42, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Is it normal for squadron articles not to have American states linked? Gavbadger (talk) 15:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Units move, personally I'd only link states to units in the case of the National Guard because they belong to that state specifically. So what if the 9th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing has been at Beale AFB in California for 50 years or whatever; the base is permanent, not the unit.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I frequently eliminate links to states and countries in USAF unit articles because the MOS considers linking to major geographical areas to be overlinking unless the state itself is germane to the article. Lineagegeek (talk) 18:13, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for answering my question. Gavbadger (talk) 18:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Benjamin Purcell

Hi-I started an article about Benjamin Purcell. He served in the United States Army and was a POW during the Vietnam War. After he retired from the Army Purcell owned a Christmas tree farm and served in the Georgia House of Representatives. I know nothing about military ranks/decorations, etc. I started the article because of his legislative career. I worked on articles about US state legislators. Any help with the article would greatly appreciated. Thank you-RFD (talk) 00:11, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Korean War

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Korean War#Reversion of Reversion. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:37, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48

A-class reviews in need of attention

Hi folks, if anybody has a little time on their hands to contribute a review at WP:MHACR, it would be greatly appreciated. The following:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Hungarian occupation of Yugoslav territories (needs one more positive review) (this should be good to go once the latest comments are addressed)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/USS Kearsarge (BB-5) (has received only one review, with no declaration of support)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/D-Day naval deceptions (need one more positive review)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/James Moore (Continental Army officer) (has received almost no comments whatsoever)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Niels Bohr (has one support; needs two more)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Henry I of England (has a few comments but no declarations of support)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Operation Winter '94 (has received no attention at all)

have been open for three weeks or longer and have not received sufficient reviews for promotion. Any help would be appreciated—even just reading through it and asking any questions that pop into your mind is helpful. Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Kudos to Hawkeye, Rupert, and AnotherClown for their efforts. Any more help would be gratefully accepted. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

If anybody has some time to provide a third review at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/James Moore (Continental Army officer), we'll have the ripest reviews out of the way which will allow us to focus on those needing more attention. Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:41, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Crew cut

It's surprisingly hard to find an image. I want one for List of hairstyles.

Nothing here or here. Can someone please help?

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Is File:Gaines 1921 naval academy.jpg or File:Trauma_nurse_--_1960s.jpg any good? How about File:Marines_do_pushups.jpg or File:Combat_knife_attached_to_gun.jpg? Alansplodge (talk) 23:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I like this one (shown) because it will crop well, and it's modern. Is it officially a crew cut? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:49, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

• Close enough anyway. The high and tight seem to be a type of a crew cut or a close cousin, btw. -Fnlayson (talk) 00:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good. I've added a cropped version to List of hairstyles. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:49, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of people on United States banknotes/archive1

This is a FLC containing 53 people of which at least 20% were notable U.S. Military figures. If anyone has the inclination (and time) to review this list, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks--Godot13 (talk) 18:03, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Attack Squadron 12 (United States Navy)

What should I do with this article on the talkpage since this is taking up 1 of the incomplete B class. Put a redirect? Adamdaley (talk) 23:41, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

French intelligence agency blackmailing an Fr-Wiki admin to delete an article on a military communications facility

Details are at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Foundation statement regarding the situation in France. This is obviously highly relevant for members of this project. I've seen a few examples of what appear to be military personnel removing information sourced to publicly-available documents (including published books and websites) from articles on the grounds of 'operational security', but this awful behaviour by the French government goes well beyond this. Nick-D (talk) 23:50, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I've also been posting the most relevant links on the Signpost's Twitter feed, if that's easier to read for you all. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:59, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

BTW, the article in question has now been translated into English at Pierre-sur-Haute military radio station, as well as a heap of other languages. Nick-D (talk) 12:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

I've also created Joint Direction of Infrastructure Networks and Information Systems. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:14, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Nice one guys. Do these guys even know how WP works? It would be funny if the poor old admin in France hadn't been shafted by the spooks. I can feel a revision of that old "Heaven and Hell" chestnut, including "Hell is where the intelligence is provided by the French"... Peacemaker67 (send... over) 12:16, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Twenty seven interwikis as of right now, can the French intelligence agency spell "Streisand Effect"? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:50, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

RFC on "start date" template application for articles having NRHP infoboxes

Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Start date in NRHP articles, about running a bot to implement "start date" and "end date" microformatting into NRHP infoboxes.

Comment from an involved party: This is relevant for MILHIST as many MILHIST articles include an NRHP infobox, often in a secondary role, such as for a building on battleground built before or after the battle. The bot as proposed could assert the NRHP item's construction date is the "start date" of the article topic. --doncram 01:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Mozambican War of Independence

Could someone take a look at this edit and other similar contributions by that account - they all seem to focus on altering the assessment of an event during the conflict where a number of civilians were reportedly killed by Portuguese troops. The account adds one source and removes all the neutral terms like alleged, reportedly, and so on, from one of the articles. I don't know too much about the topic any more - I wrote on it many years ago now - anyone have any concerns? S.G.^(GH) _ping! 22:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Modern tank armour query

Could anybody help with a query about tank armour over at the Science Refdesk please? Alansplodge (talk) 22:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Heer redirect under discussion

Heer has been listed at Redirects for Discussion for a month and a half, with somewhat mixed input. The nomination came following activity by noclador, which was preceded by some brief commentary on this page, now found here. This move discussion is also relevant. A broader input would be most welcome on the nomination page. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:06, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Merge articles to Manassas Campaign?

Back in June 2012, a proposal was made to merge the following articles to the Manassas Campaign main article:

• Battle of Fairfax Court House (June 1861)
• Battle of Arlington Mills
• Battle of Vienna, Virginia

since these articles are about minor firefights between a few companies. Nothing was done with this suggestion. Any thoughts on this? Wild Wolf (talk) 21:24, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Operation Brothers at War

I've noticed that few ADW articles have been upgraded past B-class recenly. There has also been little activity on the Brothers at War project. Any suggestions on how to increase participation in this project? Wild Wolf (talk) 21:34, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

This category still has over 20,000 articles in it. 198.252.15.202 (talk) 21:51, 11 April 2013 (UTC)