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The Signpost
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Re: WikiCup

Thanks Ed for your reply. Don't worry, I understand you're busy with other things as well, so there's no need to rush. The delay actually turned out to be a good thing, as I found three more questionable DYKs on top of the 3 I mentioned earlier (Roholte Church, Wildlife of Haiti and Emilio Boggio). The new borderline DYKs are Birthplace of Simón Bolívar ([1]), Protected areas of Namibia and Coffee production in Venezuela. Provided these 6 are ruled to not be "significant work" DYKs, he would have now submitted a total of 10 ineligible DYKs for the WIkiCup. This demonstrates that these submissions of his are not one-off accidents or submissions due to ignorance of the rules — they appear to be an intentional and systematic attempt to undermine the integrity of the WikiCup. I think appropriate action should now be taken, since it seems he now qualifies as a "persistently problematic user." —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:50, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We are emailing about it right now. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for looking into the situation – I really appreciate it! In the meantime, he's just submitted his latest fake DYK—Palacio de las Academias. 11 and counting. I'm getting pretty fed up with his deceitful antics. —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another one – Tomb of King Tongmyong. When are you guys going to start docking his points for ineligible DYKs? —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:56, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Calm please, I'm emailing J Milburn right now, and we will be scrutinizing the submissions. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've been very calm and patient. How's the scrutinizing going? —Bloom6132 (talk) 06:17, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We are going to be removing the articles before the end of the round. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:23, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Ed for your assistance in this matter! :) Unfortunately, he just added back one of the ineligible DYKs you had deleted. —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:02, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we're talking about it off-wiki as well. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:54, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A question

Hey Ed, I stumbled on ARA Almirante Brown (1880) (actually while reading your Argentine-Chilean article), and I've been trying to beat it into shape. The service history is, at present, fairly light, but I wondered if you might be able to fill in some details from Scheina and such, given that this is your area of expertise. Between the two of us, we might be able to hammer this into a decent GA. Whaddayathink?

As a side note, do you know anything about Argentine copyright law? I have no clue whether the tag on the image currently in the article is valid. Parsecboy (talk) 17:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and while digging through Google Books, I came across Conflict in the Southern Cone, which might be useful for your Argentine-Chilean article. Parsecboy (talk) 18:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can look at Scheina and a couple other books, but unless I get to it tonight, I'm going to be offline tonight and tomorrow, and then the Signpost will be on Wednesday. Argentine copyright is simultaneously awesome and frustrating. If you can prove it was taken more than 25 years ago and published more than 20 years ago, you're fine in Argentina. However, because Wikipedia's and Commons' servers are in the US, we then have the ridiculous URAA, which in this scenario basically changes that to taken before 1971 and published before 1976. So the problem with the image in the article right now is that we have no idea if or where it was published before. I think the only option we have is to troll through ancient magazines to determine the copyright status of better-quality internet images, put those that old rarely had images. We can also ask User:Cambalachero if he knows of anything that could help... so, he's now pinged here. :-)
Random sources I've found: [2] (also here), interesting notes about cost, thought sunk, effect of steel vs. iron, "better to avoid than to fight an enemy", and a searchlight as a comet?.
Re: Southern Cone, I'd seen it in Google Books but wasn't able to read much, so I put it in a "Further reading" section in the Argentine-Chilean article. Someday when I have money I'll go and buy it. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(Small) picture from Jane's 1902: [3] Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Most of those sources you found are already in the article - I trawled through Google Books and that's what I could find. Good catch on the images from Jane's - both the photo and the linedrawing are added to the article now.
Take your time on Scheina, I'm in no particular hurry :) Parsecboy (talk) 15:29, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah sorry, I should have given it more than a quick glance! I'll get back to it later this week. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:06, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I added two sentences—that's all Scheina has, unfortunately, and Conway's 1860-05 has nothing, so go ahead and nom it for GA. I'll keep an eye on it, but I'm not taking credit. :-) I may be able to add a bit more from English's Armed Forces of Latin America and/or Grant's Rulers, Guns, and Money, but the former wouldn't have much, and this ship is mostly outside of the latter's time period. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 03:55, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds fine to me. If that's all Scheina has, that's all he has. It's up at GAN now - we'll see how long it takes to get a nibble. Parsecboy (talk) 21:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Signpost Discussion report

Since Armbrust is enthusiastically helping with the FC report, I've boldly volunteered to lead the discussion report. I set it up in a way that I think will be easy for me to maintain. I'm planning to change the image each week. What do you think? The report is done except for copyedit for this week. --Pine✉ 07:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's brilliant, Pine. Thank you! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:06, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Vinícius18

Its time to block this guy - I have tried to communicate with them but to no avail. They starting adding pics again and in the process ignored the notes. Dont have time to deal with kids like this....get them out of here if they dont have the capability of communicating or understanding.Moxy (talk) 15:31, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Basalisk has gotten to it first. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 05 June 2013

Thanks for the quick corrections! What you do is awesome :) --Kip (talk) 09:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Thanks

I thought it was a test to see if I read the Signpost. :) -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk) 23:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Checking in...

Hey there, Ed! Just me. Hope you are doing well. I just wanted to touch bases with you and let you know that your work with the Signpost does not go unnoticed. Your work is appreciated. For the most part, I think Wikipedia editors spend time focusing their efforts on vandals and negativity. Which is certainly needed at times. Yet, I would venture to say that some of the hardest workers on Wikipedia are found in the woodwork. Much like bookshelves in a library support volumes and volumes of books and written materials, there are editors on Wikipedia, that hold up the project, much in the same way. In my opinion, you are one of these editors. Sadly, we oftentimes neglect to recognize or express our appreciation for consistency and dedication. I hope to bypass any inkling of my own personal complacency or neglect in this area. If you have a chance, I encourage you to take some time out to find an editor in the woodwork and pass on some appreciation of your own for their work. Pay it forward. Best regards, Cindy(talk) 00:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hear, hear! Ed, I also can't stress how much your devotion to this virtual paper is appreciated. The Signpost is always one of the highlights of my week--no matter how late it is ;) Theopolisme (talk) 00:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Cindy and Theo! Thank you both for the kind words. I can't take much credit, though—I wouldn't be editing anything if I didn't have other editors working with and beside me. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 03:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

email

Sorry, but my Wikipedia email isn't opening for some reason. I need to change to a gmail account. Serendipodous 10:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed my email. Serendipodous 14:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, no worries! I'll resend it in about five minutes. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 03:55, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what's going on but it didn't appear on my inbox. Serendipodous 04:21, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was forced to walk away for longer than I anticipated—you should have it now! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:35, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Signpost

Hello, I'm Theonesean. Since I renewed my WikiFervor some months ago (note to self: write essay about WikiFervor), I have been an avid reader of the Signpost. I've always wanted to write for it, as I consider myself a fairly good writer. However, every time I visit the newsroom, I'm at a loss as to what I can do. I would be willing to do a comic as described in the discussion, I avidly follow ArbCom reports, and can generally write anything if need be. Please contact me with more information. Thanks, TheOneSean [ U | T | C ] 16:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC) (P.S. Please leave me Talkback if you reply here)[reply]

Ed, I too enjoy the Signpost, and learn from it as well. Thanks for all the work you do. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Cullen! Much appreciated. Please feel free to leave feedback on anything anytime. Sean, all of our sections have editors at the moment, but that doesn't mean you can't help out somewhere. Let me talk to a couple quick before I give you a definitive answer. Thanks! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Signpost-subscription

Was there discussion before the links to newsroom and the single page version were removed from Template:Signpost-subscription? RJFJR (talk) 19:39, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, there was not. Is that really controversial? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I used the links that were removed and was surprised but it doesn't seem to bother anyone else so I'll just leave links on my user page. Thanks. RJFJR (talk) 13:32, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. I can re-add the single-page template, but I removed the newsrrom one as it isn't important compared to what I added. Regards, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 00:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Drmies thread

You closed that thread on his Talk, then he continued adding insults there, while telling me not to respond. (That seem fair in your book? What was the function of "closing" that thread, if he ignored the close?) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 02:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's his talk page; he gets to do with it what he wants... Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:54, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your closing the thread was just a suggestion then, I assume you would agree. You told him to go ahead and revert your close, presumably if he wanted to make further comment. Well you saw what he did -- he didn't revert your close, yet made further insulting comments, and accusations against me, that were purely ad hominem. Then deleted my reply, with a "Fuck off" edit sum. (That kind of behavior, from an Admin, got your deep-down & honest respect?! [You needn't answer; I'm not challenging you about anything, I think your close was a good effort; my point is Drmies disrespected it. {So how does his "Thank u" to you have any context? Gee I'm confused!}]) After a display like he made, IMO his behavior is a disgrace to all Admins. (How are regular editors supposed to have respect when Admins act like that?! They can't, if they're paying attention.) Thanks for letting me voice my thoughts here, again, I think your close attempt was a respectful gesture (not offending anyone). Good for you. (It was clear Drmies wouldn't be facing my Q even in an earthquake or tsunami. So there was no point to letting it continue. He had only insults to spew.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 03:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Cantankerous

Just to let you know, I reverted your edits to Cantankerous. Wikipedia isn't Wiktionary; because it has a primary Wikipedia topic it should be redirected there. I'll add a Wiktionary hatnote to the top of MC Kinky regarding it. However, if you can find another notable usage of it it can be turned into a disambiguation page.--Launchballer 23:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First, there's no mention of this stage name in the reference given. Second, I highly doubt that many people searching for "cantankerous" are really going to be looking for a relatively obscure British musical artist versus the meaning of the word itself. Still, I don't care enough as long as the hatnote is there. Thanks, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:01, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Signpost

Andreas and I have thrown together a section for this week. We should be OK for your edit. Thanks -- Ben (Go Phightins! 01:07, 13 June 2013 (UTC))[reply]

I'll check it now—thanks for the note! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:11, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Armstrong Whitworth Launch Cards

I have now uploaded five pieces including two De Lacy signed pieces to Commons. A role has also been played in creating Charles de Lacy.Minas Geraes is included so is Eidsvold. I have also made an Excel table for the contents of Tyne Wear archives 450/1, the Admiral's bound volume of launch cards from Elswick. Along the way, that shows 12 De Lacy images and a total of 33 vessels. I may try to get some of this into my own blog. If you would like to see the Excel table I need to know some way to get it to you.TWAMWIR (talk) 11:33, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw De Lacy's Minas Geraes pictures—I've already added them to the article. :-) I will email you through Wikipedia's Special:Emailuser function so that you have my email, and I'd be happy to work with you in getting these valuable images into articles! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have now published the raw data through the medium of my blog. This means all the information about 450/1 is there but not as an excel table. I am happy to share the table by email to you and anyone else.TWAMWIR (talk) 07:01, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that works just as well! I don't know how much time you have left as a Wikipedian-in-Residence, but I could certainly get most, if not all, of the articles created for the images of South American ships if that's what Tyne and Wear would want. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 07:08, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 12 June 2013

WW2InfoBox

Could you please remove the off-topic slander on the Talk:WW2InfoBox. It's unconscionable that an off-topic slander of another editor is left on a talk page in a closed discussion with a "do not modify" tag applied. UrbanNerd (talk) 23:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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