User talk:Cullen328

I don't live on Cullen Ct, but I like the street sign

Welcome to my talk page I use the name Cullen328 on Wikipedia, but you can call me "Jim" because that's my real first name. If you want to start a new conversation, please click "New section" at the top of this page. I keep the old comments from July and August of 2009 that follow the "Contents" here, because these friendly words of greeting made me feel welcome when I first started editing Wikipedia.

Thoughts on the importance of civility from Wikipedia's founder

"One of the great strengths of civility is that it helps others to see who is in the wrong - when you answer rudeness with rudeness, it only generates noise that makes it harder for people to properly reprimand the person who started it. Let someone be as obnoxious and disgusting and horrible as they want - respond to them with professionalism and don't sink to their level. By doing this, you strengthen the community, build a happier environment for all of us, and make it all the more clear who needs to be banned for general obnoxiousness." Jimbo Wales

The importance of a friendly greeting

Hello and welcome to my talk page. If you want to start a new conversation, please click "New section" at the top of this page. I keep the comments that follow from July and August of 2009 readily visible, because these friendly words of greeting made me feel welcome here on Wikipedia when I first started editing. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Please offer your thoughts

I would appreciate comments and suggestions on any contributions I make. I am learning.Cullen328 (talk) 03:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice work on Jules Eichorn. He's been needing an article for a while.   Will Beback  talk  06:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

If I may suggest, now that you've posted the Eichorn article the draft below might be deleted. It's your talk page to do with as you like, but it's a bit hard to edit around.

As for formatting and pictures, a good way to learn is to look around at other articles to see what you think looks best. It can be helpful to break up long blocks of text into subsections. Perhaps it'd be possible to split the biography into two or three eras. Other than that, the formatting is usually kept fairly plain. As for photos, it's easy to upload them: the trick is in finding photos with appropriate licensing. If you have any personal photos then those'd be fine. There are might be pictures of the peaks he did first ascents on in the Wikicommons. File:Cathedral Peak.png is a so-so pic of Eichorn Pinnacle.

As before, feel free to ask if you have any questions. There are several editors here who are mountaineers or just admirers of the Sierra, so you're in good company.   Will Beback  talk  21:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

PS: Many editors create "sandbox" pages for drafting articles. For example, User talk:Cullen328/Sandbox.   Will Beback  talk  00:17, 1 August 2009

Your climber biographies

Hey Jim, just wanted to say welcome and thanks for your contributions to the Sierra Nevada climbing history articles. You're filling a niche that's been missing here, I look forward to working with you. --Justin (talk) 11:54, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll second that. Nice work on Allen Steck and welcome to Wikipedia. I don't know who you are planning to write up next but if your taking requests I think Peter Croft (climber) could really use a page. If you ever have any questions please ask. Thanks again for your great additions.--OMCV (talk) 02:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Justin and OMCV. I am beginning work on Tom Frost and Glen Dawson. Comments on Norman Clyde would be welcomed. I will defintely read up on Peter Croft, OMCV. I am still "learning the ropes" in Wikipedia, to use a climbing analogy, and have all sorts of things in mind. My biggest challenge right now is getting permission to use images. My next biggest challenge is hiking to the top of Mt. Whitney with my wife in ten days - she's never been above 12,000 feet except for the train ride up Pikes Peak. As she's 56 and developing arthritis in her toes, it will be an accomplishment if she (and I) complete the Class 1 feat. Jim Heaphy (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Debra and I made it to the summit of Mt. Whitney at 2:20 PM on Friday, September 11. Jim Heaphy (talk) 00:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

2012 Archive (first six months)

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Happy Memorial Day!!

Miss Bono (zootalk) is wishing you a Happy Memorial Day! On this day, we recognize our fellow countrymen who have fought our nation's battles for the past several hundred years, protecting our freedom and safety. We remember those who paid the ultimate price and we support those who continue to willingly sacrifice their safety for the sake of their country. Happy Memorial Day!

Share this message by adding {{subst:Memorial Day}} to a fellow American's talk page.

Psst

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Whisperback

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WP: NCIS

I made this today. :) Even the logo and the templates. How do you think :) I used the template for WP:U2 Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:37, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Very nicely done, Miss Bono. I am not familiar with the band. I will try to watch some YouTube videos tonight. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for Vaillancourt Fountain

I happened to be reading your userpage, and noticed the article on the Vaillancourt Fountain, and decided to read it. It is quite well done, and I learned quite a bit about the history of the fountain that I hadn't known. So, thanks! (And I enjoyed the World Book as a child, too.) JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:11, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Why, thank you very much, JesseW. It is rare that someone comments on one of my articles out of the blue, and I really appreciate it. Please allow me to comment on your signature. I am 61 years old now, and when I was in my early 20s, I worked as a hospital janitor in San Francisco for several years. I respect janitorial work. A few years after that, I began mountaineering, and met a group of "juggling peakbaggers". They would climb mountains and then juggle on the summits. Quite a gang! Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:39, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

That's a wonderful thing to hear of. Thank you. I like to drop unexpected thank you notes on the main authors of well-written articles I come across. Even as I do despair for the overall quality of the Wikimedia projects (see the essays linked on my user page), there is still a vast and growing body of excellent material here, too. JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Really sorry for poking my nose but... what does the expression out of the blue mean? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

"Out of the blue" means unexpectedly, without anything leading up to it. It is as if something dropped out of the sky. I said that, Miss Bono, because I have never interacted with JesseW before. And you are the editor who motivated me to write Vaillancourt Fountain in the first place. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 14:43, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

So, the lines Love/ Lift me up out of these blues/Won't you tell me something true/ I believe in you have something to do with that idiom? By the way... I am replying at your comment in an email :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 14:47, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

And we have had an article on the phrase: Out of the blue (idiom) since 2011. :-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 04:43, 14 August 2013 (UTC) (I should read before posting -- see next item... JesseW, the juggling janitor 04:43, 14 August 2013 (UTC))

No problem, JesseW. I started a new section because I was editing with a mobile phone, and long threads are awkward to edit that way. By the way, I am mentoring Miss Bono. She lives in Cuba, has very limited internet access, and English is not her native language. So, you will see me explaining American things to her, and helping her improve her English language skills. At this point, I am obligated to say that Miss Bono speaks English vastly better than I speak Spanish. Also, she is a delightful person and a wonderful Wikipedia contributor. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:54, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Jim :) It's an honor to work with you :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:13, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Out of the blue

See the brief article Out of the blue (idiom). This is unrelated to "the blues" which is a depressed emotional state, and later came to mean a style of music developed by African-Americans. The lyric you quoted is referring to the second meaning since it uses the plural, though the lyricist may have been hinting at the other idiom, when choosing "out". This has been today's English lesson, Miss Bono. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:20, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Jim! :) :Oh, blue yeah. Like: Last week I was blue but now I'm not. It meas I was sad but now I am not. Right? Do you recognize the lyrics, don't you? Poor man he is lol. The blue thing reminds me of a song by Aerosmith. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 15:35, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Elevation by none other than U2. How surprising! Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

You got it... Yay!!! can you believe that I actually dance with that song? By dance I mean jump around my house, and my grandma start yelling at me: Please stop! I can't stand Bono anymore. Everyone in my house hates Bono. My boyfriend is the first lol. But I like him :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:12, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Cullen328. You have new messages at Prabash.A's talk page.
Message added 19:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Prabash.Akmeemana 19:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

• A very late reply ;) Prabash.Akmeemana 19:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem, Prabash.A. I hope you had a nice vacation. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:23, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Cullen328. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 17:59, 14 August 2013 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template).

Thanks!

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	For your amazing work here, your patience, your willing to help people and for being awesome. Miss Bono [zootalk] 14:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Miss Bono. Yes, I am a "working man" for sure. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:36, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, too!

I just wanted to applaud your efforts to defuse tense situations on Wikipedia. It's hard being a peacemaker, especially when the parties aren't interested in putting aside their attitudes and differences. It's usually a thankless task so I just wanted to say I appreciate it! NewJerseyLiz ^{Let's Talk} 18:47, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I really appreciate your kind remarks, Newjerseyliz. Diplomacy doesn't always work, but is always worth a try. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Request for sources for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mashregh News

Hi, you stated there are sources readily available, but searches on Google (web, news, scholar) and JSTOR did not yield anything that actually covered Mashregh News, only things that cite them for a particular news piece. Could you list what these available citations are? Transcendence (talk) 20:14, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

As you requested, I have expanded the article, adding several sources. When independent sources discuss, criticize and analyze a news outlet's reporting, that is evidence of notability. As I noted previously, the likelihood that many more sources are available in Farsi is very high. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:09, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Pearmund Cellars Outcome

Even though it didn't support my efforts, I appreciate your straight forward and logical comment without making it personal. As a newbie I was a little taken aback by how personal some of the comments got.

My goal in this is to build content on the Virginia wine industry. I started with Pearmund Cellars because they are close to where I live and I felt they actually had more press and references than others. However, perhaps I should have started with Chris Pearmund. That would allow me to discuss a couple other wineries and some of the international relationships that take it out of the local press.

Before I go through the work to write another article doomed to deletion because of my inexperience, do you have any other suggestions on how I might better approach this topic of Virginia wine without violating the spirit of Wikipedia?

Thanks again for taking the time to check the references and comment. Hopefully I learned something from the process that I can apply next time.

Thanks. --Jlgorman24 (talk) 22:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. I think that you now have a better understanding of notability and reliable sources. Perhaps a biography of Chris Pearmund might be a worthwhile effort. Feel free to ask questions at any time, Jlgorman24. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:14, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I think I will get some experience adding to existing articles before diving into creating my own again.--Jlgorman24 (talk) 20:44, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Jlgorman24, if you decide to write Chris Pearmund, I will help, and I assure you, it won't be deleted. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:52, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

email

I have something that I wanted to talk to you about but would rather not post here in public. I looked for your "email this user" link and it appears to be missing (i looked to the left of your user page which is where I thought i found it before). I do have your email still (i think) as we have exchanged emails in the past. I was wondering if it was still ok for me to communicate with you in that manner since the email this user link is gone? I will search around and if I find it then of course you will already have gotten an email from me. Thank you Cullen. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 16:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Of course, you can email me. I haven't disabled the email function so it should be a temporary glitch. Let me know if you don't find it. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:35, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

What does glitch mean? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Good morning, Miss Bono. At least good morning my time. I slept in because I am working later in the day today. "Glitch" is a slang word for a minor mistake or obstacle, like a fleeting computer bug or a machine that doesn't work quite right. Or, if you really wanted to get together with three friends and one called to say their car broke down. So, an irritating but relatively minor problem. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

thanks! :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 16:38, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

HEy!

Won't you talk to me anymore? Did I do something wrong? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 13:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You haven't done anything wrong at all, and I think I answered one of your questions at the Teahouse late last week. I am always happy to communicate with you. Lots of other people are asking me questions too, and I am also very busy off Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:21, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Let me know when you are around. I am a little bit lost here and email doesn't work anymore... until September. Something happened with the servers. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 16:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Your Opinion on Readiness of a Draft

Hi Jim,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions at the Teahouse. Your answers are always right to the point and very useful. I appreciate that very much.

In one of your responses, you mentioned that submitted articles for review range from "hogwash" (the majority) to very good (very few). I've been working on an article that I'd like to eventually submit for review, located at User:FGuerino/Information technology industry and I'd certainly like to get it as close to the better side of that range as possible, so as not to waste any reviewers' time. I've been following different WP docs like the MoS, the Primer, and other documents to make sure I get it to a good level of maturity but, given this is my first real full article, I'm always wondering about what else I might be missing.

Given your experience, I was wondering if I could please impose on you to kindly take a few minutes, take a quick look at it, and provide me with any issues you ;think I need to correct before submitting it for review. I'm not really in a rush to submit the article so much as I am looking to create a solid list of open issues and corrective actions that I need to continue to work on, in an attempt to improve it for submission at a later date.

However, if you're busy and can't, I understand.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

PS: I read your user page and saw that you live in one of my favorite places in the world. I was out there in March and already miss it terribly. Now, I'm clearly jealous of you!

--My Best, Frank --FGuerino (talk) 14:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello FGuerino. I skimmed the article, and the first thing that I have to say is that I am not an IT professional so have no topic specific expertise. That being said, I have the usual sort of layman's interest in the field, having owned and used personal computers since 1979. Also, I don't usually work on articles on broad, sweeping topics, as I prefer more clearly defined areas.

I think that you should actively seek out input from editors with IT expertise. Knowing of your personality conflict with one such editor, I encourage you to seek out others. Take a look at the edit histories of other well written articles in the IT field, and reach out to the major contributors who have shown a collaborative attitude on the talk pages. I may make some more specific comments later. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jim,

Thanks. Feedback from people who don't have a background in the topic domain can be very useful as such people often see things that others, like me, who are close to the topic might miss. If you do get the chance to review, please know that any help is appreciated, as my primary goal is to find things I can address proactively so as not to waste the time of reviewers, later. I also like and will follow your advice on how to find editors with domain background. As for Eric, I'll probably reach out to him, later, as a courtesy. We'll see how he handles it. Thanks again, Frank --FGuerino (talk) 19:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Please don't take the trouble to "reach out to me as a courtesy". You know full well what I think of your article, and my opinion is unlikely to change until you come to realise the truth of what I've been trying to tell you. Eric Corbett 19:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

And do you really have to write every reply as if you're writing a letter? Eric Corbett 19:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Re ODD question at the teahouse

Thank you for your response to my "odd" question at the teahouse and confirmation that I was doing the vandal revert properly. I did think that I was supposed to revert to the talk page for concerns if an editor kept reversing the edit. Giving them the opportunity to state there concerns. I did not want to be the subject of an edit war. So can you clarify exactly when would you defer to the articles talk page for a discussion rather than edit war? Would that be if they were not a vandal and if they were inserting information they really thought should be in the article? I was trying to confirm what the number should be and my computer (not computer actually it was the browser) kept crashing when trying to use that edit beta thing, so I got a little flustered too. Trying to answer my own question before I get the answer, haha. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 16:04, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Tattoodwaitress, if you read the policy on edit warring, you will see that reverting indisputable vandalism is not edit warring. If there is a concerted attack by vandals, we can revert as many times as necessary until the vandals are blocked and the article protected by an administrator. The three revert rule applies to good faith edits and legitimate content disputes. No reasonable person could think that Jacksonville had that population.

The mistake some editors make is calling a misguided but good faith edit "vandalism", such as inserting personal opinion or religious/political beliefs into an article. This is not vandalism. Vandalism is a conscious, obvious attempt to damage the encyclopedia by adding completely false information, profanity or gibberish.

Debating malicious vandals just gives them attention they crave. We revert and warn. If it persists, we block and protect. I hope this clarifies things. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:39, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah I see thank you, it is not edit warring if with a vandal. I get it now. =) Tattoodwaitress (talk) 16:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Ina Garten

Hi Jim, and thanks for the warm greeting. I'll review the policies you suggested, and perhaps we can discuss an approach that would satisfy all sides and policies. (Yeah, I know, but gotta be optimistic, right?) Cheers, Parker Parkebench (talk) 23:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

First, Parkebench, I would ask you to consider the issue of undue weight. How much attention does this matter deserve in a biography that is supposed to reflect a person's entire life and career? Then, let's consider the quality of the sources. Do we have reputable sources reporting on this incident in detail over time, or do we have gossipy sources (and remember that major media organizations have gossip desks) that specialize in covering celebrity trivia and that discussed it fleetingly nearly 2-1/2 years ago? Where is the ongoing coverage in the sort of impeccable sources required to overcome WP:BLP concerns? Then, I would ask you to consider whether this is a matter of something that Ina Garten actually did, or something that Ina Garten didn't do? Should we compile a list of 50 other things that Ina Garten has failed to do, and include that? As far as I know, she's failed to publicly denounce Monsanto or fracking or female genital mutilation or the GOP's alleged campaign of voter suppression. How dare her! Should we mention those failures as well?

In all honesty, I am astounded that people still want to insert this gossipy trivia into this biography after all this time, but perhaps you can help me understand. When you do so, please address the many policy based arguments against inclusion discussed on the lengthy talk page. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Help!

I need some help to organize and reword this. Please, please, please... :( Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 17:08, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I would like you to paraphrase as much as you can, as a separate section, and then I will go through and reword and copy edit it, OK? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I was thinking about to create a scheme that applies to all chapters with period (recording sessions, albums, events, tours, ...), interviews and photos shoots locations and contents (and archives for photos; U2's archive/personal/family archives), popular quotes (used or cited by mass-madia) and/or well known or prize winner photos... can you help with that. I think that if we do that, our work could me more organized.

I will do my best but I get frustrated when I am not able to find the right words for something. That's why I haven't been working so much in that draft. :'( Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 17:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for lending an Ear

		The Good Heart Barnstar
		Thank you Cullen for helping me to grow, lending an ear when I reach out, and helping me to feel good about myself as an editor. Thank you too for the gentle way you point out mistakes. Tattoodwaitress (talk) 17:12, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Main Space

I've been working in real articles today. I added some info to Walk On and Elevation. Still needs work, I was thinking about working with you. Waht do you say? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Gig

I am having my first gig ever on 31 August at a park, I was invited by a journalist who had asked me to play in his group a year ago. But this time we (my cousin and I) are going to play an acoustic gig. With a few songs I've arrange. Most of them covers and 2 songs written by me. Anyways! I miss you around, I hope everythig is well with you and your family. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 13:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

That is wonderful news, Miss Bono, and I hope it goes very well for you. I had a difficult work day yesterday, and am hoping for a better day today. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 14:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I am hoping that for you as well. I miss the times when you have time for Wikipedia, but real work comes first.

As for the gig, I don't know if counting it as the first one, I sang this song once in front of nearly 2000 people at my former School. Wonderful! :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 15:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 15:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:56, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48

I appreciate the invitation, Kudpung, and I have commented there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Right-hand info box on Google

So, Cullen, about that infobox on Google, the Oliver Grainger box-- when I search him up-- appears on the right-hand side of the Google search page. How do I get Jason Szwimmer to be like that? 99.242.58.123 (talk) 17:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

As I said at the Teahouse, this box that sometimes appears in a Google search is entirely a Google issue.Wikipedia can't help you directly with this. It is certainly an automated process, so take a look at the two people and their online presence to see what the differences may be. Here are my hunches: Google seems to prefer to display a photo. There is a portrait photo readily available of Grainger, but not of Szwimmer. If possible, upload a freely-licensed portrait of Szwimmer to Wikimedia Commons, and add it to the Wikipedia article. Also, Google may be confused by the alternate spellings, as there are other people online with the alternate spelling. Google doesn't want to display information about the wrong person. Perhaps the information could be mentioned lower down.

Most important, the article should be expanded and references added. Google is much more likely to pay attention to a more informative and better referenced article. That will also push the article higher in Google searches for Szwimmer. Righ now, a fan site that Google may see as less reliable tops the Google search. Hope this helps. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

External Link -- clarification

Jim, many thanks for helping. Issues to resolve: Please see link below and the associated notations in red in the footnote section. In the talk section for this article, I have included examples on how to identify/find the facts from citations. Is this what the unknown parameter is looking for??

Secondly, since this is a biography, there may or may not be another external link in English. Could this issue be remained unaddressed? Many thanks.CHHistory (talk) 19:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luo_Xian_Xiang

The unknown parameter is completely a Wikicode formatting issue. Recent versions of the software for templates (such as a book citation template) only recognize certain predefined parameters, and they must be spelled and capitalized and formatted properly. For example, there are no recognized formats for "case=" or "origin=". The parameter "volume=" must be lower-case and "Volume=" doesn't work. I have tried to correct the issues with references 11, 13, 15, 17, 23, 32, 34, 37 and 40. Please check all of them, especially 40, where the title was missing. I think I saw what was the title and added it, but I don't read Chinese so I may have made a mistake. If so, I apologize. I hope this helps. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:39, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

As for external links, they are optional, and there is no need for them if no good ones are available in English. Don't let that concern you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:54, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Jim, Many thanks for making the corrections, thus removing the words in red. Now the article does not look like it is full of errors :-) Have checked, they are fine! Will keep the coding in mind for the next article attempt. Again, much appreciation for your taking the time to help and to educate. CHHistory (talk) 19:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Your edits

Thank you for helping clean up Malafa. I'm puzzled, though, as to why you removed my onesource tag. As far as I can tell, the only "independent" source is his university alumni rag. The stuff from Moffit is obviously under his sphere of influence, let alone his own publications. I don't particularly doubt its authenticity, but if every head of (insert specialty) surgery got this sort of coverage, WP would be rife with competing self-promotion. Oh, wait... LeadSongDog come howl! 14:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello LeadSongDog. The notability of an academic is judged by a variety of factors described in WP:PROF including calculations of how often their scientific papers are cited by others. This is an accepted tool for assessing notability that does not require the type of significant coverage in independent sources as would be required for a pop culture topic being assessed under WP:GNG. Accordingly, referencing of frequently cited scientific papers and university faculty profiles constitutes multiple sources, in my view. Faculty profiles are subject to much more rigorous fact checking than press releases about pop stars. Every article we have on an operating business or an active entertainer, athlete, politician or author has the potential for self promotion. It is up to editors such as you and I to remove promotionalism from all such articles, as I have tried to do in this case. If consensus is that this surgeon does not meet our notability standards for academics, then the article will be deleted. Otherwise, it will be kept. I do not see lack of sources as the issue we face here. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Emails

Let me know if you receive my emails. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:55, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I did Miss Bono. Please don't be upset. I am working a long way from home and have been driving for three hours. You have done nothing wrong and I will give you help whenever I can. In the mean time, you could do some translation to Spanish. Harry Yount for example? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I will. But I need to know if everything is going to be as usual (go back to normal) again, someday? Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 20:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Miss Bono, I have been mentoring you for nearly five months, and I am as committed to our mentorship as on the first day. My goal has always been to help you develop into an independent, capable and competent Wikipedia editor. You are a capable and competent person, but you are also 19 years old and a bit emotional. I understand the challenges that you face. And I will also always be available to assist you with your specific questions and concerns. But I am your mentor, not your research assistant nor your best buddy. I really like you a lot. But the goal here is editing and improving Wikipedia, both English and Spanish (and other languages as well). I have helped you on a number of U2 related articles, and am proud of that. I have no problem with U2 coverage, but my goal is to improve the entire encyclopedia, and I would like help from my friends and collaborators on my areas of interest as well. It would make me proud, for example, if some of the significant articles I have written and expanded would have Spanish translations. I want to bring some of my articles to Good Article status, and also want to write some new articles, but I have barely had time to do more than ponder that recently.

I have a life off Wikipedia, including a wonderful wife who is also my business partner, and a developing Wikipedia editor herself, also willing to assist you. I have two young adult sons, and one is disabled and needs lots of attention. The other is very capable, but also works in our family business, and so needs supervision and mentoring as well. I have friends and extended family. I am the oldest living member of my extended family. I have family issues and friendships to manage. I am fortunate to be pretty healthy for a man of 61, but I have an assortment of minor health issues, one of which bothered me last week. My business is very small and family oriented, and usually runs smoothly. Last week, it didn't run smoothly. By coincidence, I had a variety of crises, major and minor, to deal with. A customer cancelling an appointment at the last minute. Another customer hinting strongly that a job was a "go" and never following through. A deranged potential customer creating havoc. A lost check. A doctor's appointment confirming an ongoing minor but irritating health issue. Behavioral issues with my disabled obsessive-compulsive son. A misunderstanding or communications issue with a dear old friend. In the midst of all of this, I am trying to plan and coordinate a family trip to Hawaii. And trying to keep the family business running instead of collapsing. So, I have had some rough and challenging times recently.

I regret that the time I have to edit Wikipedia with a bit more leisure is also the time when you are off work and not editing. This is a function of time zones and work schedules, and nothing negative on my part or yours. Part of the reason I edit Wikipedia is relaxation and the satisfaction of sharing my knowledge.That is why I enjoy answering questions at the Teahouse at my leisure, and dealing with AfD or BLP issues or questions that pop up on my talk page the same way. No pressure. Accordingly, I encourage you to ask me the sort of questions that don't need a rapid answer. For example, you asked about OTRS at the Teahouse recently. I could have answered that one for you, and I can't help but wonder if other editors, knowing of our mentorship, are also wondering why you ask that question at the Teahouse instead of asking me. Is that I am not a good mentor? Or that I am too slow to answer? Or that I have failed to teach you how to type in WP:OTRS to get the answer yourself? That sort of thing leads me to self-doubt.

I encourage you to focus and prioritize your goals, to develop your team, (not just me), who can help with your research needs, I encourage you to stick with a project until it is complete, even if the work is tough. Or, if you put a project on the back burner, be conscious of that decision, and ready to return to it when the time is right. I have some projects on the back burner myself.

Your email problems have been an impediment to our collaboration. Will this get better in September? If so, I can give you copies of research materials of use in your favorite projects, without copyright concerns. Even more importantly, I can discuss certain things that I don't want every Wikipedia editor (and troll) to see. I want the vast majority of our communications to be visible to all. But some limited number of personal things are best kept semi-private. I will share our email communications with my wife, or any mutually acceptable administrator, or any arbcom member, if anyone ever challenges our relationship. I have nothing to hide, but then again, there are certain things that are best kept semi-private.

All of my talk page stalkers can see this conversation, Laura. That is fine with me. I am very, very sorry that my recent distractions have caused you grief. That was never my intention. Sometimes, when I am stressed out, I go into a "hermit" mode and don't feel able to discuss things very much with the people I care about a lot. I care about you a lot. Please accept my apologies. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment and the explanations. I didn't ask you about OTRS because I knew you were working and solving your personal stuffs, not because you are not a good mentor, because you are the greatest mentor I'd ever had. I am sorry all your personal problems, I didn't mean to cause you stress or put pressure on you. Sorry for being as emotional as I am... you have nothing to apologize for. Sorry. Bye... My email problems probably will be solved next week... or the other. But I feel like I'm giving up, I thought I could help but my Internet problems are a pain in the a*** and... I don't know what to do. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:12, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cullen328

thank you for your valuable reply . yes, am trying to make it a good article but am stuck in where i do not know how to remove the bare URLs and add citations to make it a perfect one . could you help me to find out how to remove the bare URLs from the article? it will be so easy if you can send me the correct hypertext format to do it.thank you once again--johnsib (talk) 05:35, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind remarks. There are many ways to expand and fill out a reference that uses a bare URL. The easiest for beginners is just to manually add additional fields, such a publication name, author, title, date, publisher, city and so on. Any of these fields can be wikilinks, and can simply be separated by commas. We also offer a wide variety of citation templates, including large and small ones for books, news articles, scientific journals, TV shows, websites and so on. There are semi-automated tools that will do all or most of this for you, once you master use of the tool. I usually use templates, as shown at WP:CT. Please also see WP:REFBEGIN for referencing tips for beginners. More broadly, I recommend WP:PRIMER for overall beginning advice for new editors. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:56, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library

Hey! I've done a major redesign of The Wikipedia Library portal. As one of our original volunteers, I'd love you to check it out, pick a role, create a profile to share your story and skills, sign up for the newsletter, and see how you can get involved. I'd also be interested in having a skype chat with you in the next few weeks to see how we can best put your energy to use (or email if that's better for you). Hope you're doing well, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 13:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

COIN comments

I'm going to send you an email after i post this.

You can look at my edit history, of course; while there are ebbs and flows, I have sent a reasonable number of wikilove and welcome messages, i think. But when someone starts to creep up to the line of "just posting resumes from people at the same institution" whether they are explicitly PR or not, that gets my dander up, especially in medicine where I have worked in some capacity, and intend to end up. There is plenty of literature out there, with which I am reasonably familiar, about the corrosive influence of conflicts-of-interest on the practice of medicine; i think the same can be said of WP, that CoIs are a corrosive influence. I have already seen plenty of egregious and obvious marketing behavior in this domain, and the more of those types of edit there are, the more aggressive we need to be in nipping it in the bud, just from a time-efficiency and limited-number-of-editors standpoint.

I also have made some guesses and independently researched this particular situation, and feel confident in saying that my initial hunch was probably correct, but i will say no more about it, for obvious reasons. you can either trust me on this or not, as you will. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 04:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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Gratia discovers penicillin

Dear Jim, Thank you very much for your comments. This was my first attempt at Wikipedia. it appears that it will be more difficult than I thought. I suspect that other Internet sites, such as Google scholar, Figshare, Mendeley will be a complicated. I believe a biography of Andre Gratia already exists. However, a parallel description of his life and Fleming's life, and why one did not and the other did receive the Nobel prize, does not exist. Thinking... This is so complicated. Thank you. Celine Szoges — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.0.155.250 (talk) 18:13, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Celine. There is no biography of Andre Gratia here on English Wikipedia, which is what I was referring to. He is mentioned in several other articles, but deserves an article of his own, I believe. If the parallel description that you describe does not yet exist, then Wikipedia is not the place for it. We do not publish original research but instead summarize what reliable sources have already said about a topic. I hope that the distinction is clear. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:22, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, which is helpful.

Likelihoodist (talk) 03:34, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Ivan Drago merge discussion

Talk:Rocky_IV#Merge_for_Ivan_Drago_into_Rocky_IV An AFD you participated in that just got closed today, is now at a merge discussion. Dream Focus 19:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I expressed my opinion there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Download speeds in Cuba

Hi Cullen,

I am about to talk about a sensitive issue and am not much experienced so will make a few mistakes please pardon them. Do you know about the download speeds in Cuba, I mean I saw an user who wants to listen to music but can't so I will get the music for the editor, mail it to you and then you can mail them to her. Going through the users talk page I noticed there are some restrictions therefore not mentioning the name of the editor. This editors morale is a bit low and I want to contribute at least a bit from my part. I am not asking the editor directly as it might make the editor uncomfortable while answering it. Best - Sohambanerjee1998 19:48, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind offer, Sohambanerjee1998, and I am very grateful for your inquiry. Your offer is a kind one, but at this time, I am not able to send emails to this user. I do not fully understand the extent and details of her access challenges, but I do know that she has access to Wikipedia at work, but not to the broader internet. She can't use Google or Wikimedia Commons. She seems to have access to music recordings and popular film and TV shows from the wider world. but I do not know the mechanisms she and her friends use to obtain this material. I do not want to question her in any way. I accept the reality of her situation, and have pledged to do my best to assist her. One thing I know for sure is that she is not interested in discussing politics, either overtly or by implication. She is interested in improving Wikipedia, and in our coverage of the rock band U2 and the people and places and other musicians associated with that band, and her knowledge of that band is deep and impressive. She is also interested in improving her English language skills. She knows English very well, but not perfectly. She appreciates it when people offer language advice gently. She loves her country, which I understand because I spent two months visiting there decades ago, more time than I've spent in any other country besides my own. But she does not want to discuss politics. I accept that completely.

This editor, whose name we aren't mentioning, is a wonderful person with a heart of gold. I am doing my best to encourage her to function confidently on her own as an independent editor. I am always here for her, willing to do my best to answer any specific question, or offer words of encouragement. It seems to hurt her feelings sometimes that I think she can meet most of her needs on her own. She can ask me for help any time. But as her mentor, it is my job to encourage her self-reliance. My advice to you is to offer her friendship and collaboration. You will be rewarded. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:30, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I think I know the user you're asking about, so why not ask her what her download speed is? Cuba is of course quite welcome to join us in the 21st century any time it chooses. Eric Corbett 20:01, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Eric Corbett I would be happy to discuss that issue elsewhere, but not here, please. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Because she's a person with a heart of gold and the consequences she might face I didn't want to contact her directly but wanted to do my best in order retain such a magnificent user. The user lacked motivation therefore this gesture of mine, to help her cheer up. Thanks Cullen for the answer. I noticed the user in her talkpage saying the availability of U2 Songs is nil in Cuba so I though that I would collect the songs myself and mail them to her as the Band's activity is the users focal point at the current point of time and she would download them as Mail attachments but since you mentioned Google is blocked, I assume Gmail will be too. Cullen if you ever need help in this users regard in any kind just ask me. I'll be overwhelmed. Thanks Sohambanerjee1998 08:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi everyone! I wanted to say thank you all of you for the kind words and the help you are offering. To answer Soham's question. I cannot download music, unless it is in a Cuban site. I do have an email address but it is not gmail or hotmail or anything that ends with .com. As for where do I get U2's music... I buy it digitally from people who have Internet access and who can download it. Sometimes I find the albums very cheap and sometimes they're very expensive, it depends. Oh, Jim... I didn't know that my knowledge of U2 was deep and impressive... I just know some stuffs :).

It's really nice to hear all those great things you said about me, Jim... really great :) Thanks!!

Again, thank you so much for your help and I will let you know when I am able to receive emails again. Best! Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:20, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Your phrasing at the Teahouse didn't make me feel like it was a silly question. I posted that question thinking it was silly but I had to ask eventually. I appreciate that you wrote on my talk and took the time to apologize if you had offended me. (You didn't offend me) Thank you for going that extra mile to ensure that I, and all other new editors and contributors, feel welcome. Nt-501 (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind remarks. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:11, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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List of massacres in South Africa

Did you mean to do this? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:36, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Got your message. Thanks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:38, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

It was an accidental rollback, NeilN. The problematic editor has messed with several of the wikilinks on this list, turning valid links into red links. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:43, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

How about reverting to here?, removing the one redlink and adding the unreferenced tag? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

That seems better, NeilN. I have my doubts about the entire list and especially the inclusion of the Battle of Isandlwana, which was a battle between two armies rather than a massacre. But I am not an expert in South African history. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:53, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Excellent point. Reading the article shows there were 1,000+ casualties on both sides so I've removed that as well. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

"Defender"

I'm not much of a defender, Cullen... Drmies (talk) 02:09, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

That is not your job, dear friend. By the way, I am very pleased to see that you are again a member of our administrative team. I was going to say "corps" but I know that being a janitor and wielding a mop is "no big deal" and all. And some here object to the power connotations. Anyway, thanks. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:40, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Electrocoin and Barx Wiki Sites

Hi Jim,

Sorry its been a while - I finally have what I think is sufficient sources/back up for you to create the Wiki pages for Electrocoin and Bar - X.

I cannot find the last correspondence in which I think you provided an email to send across the PDF'S of the articles, so if you can do this again that would be much appreciated. I may set up a drop box or something similar so I can upload as many documents as possible, so please let me know what is best.

I'm not use to the Wiki system, so if we can be in contact via email or even telephone this would be a lot easier - so If you can provide either or both, again it would be appreciated. As agreed I will make donations towards Wiki and your charity of choice, so if you let me know how many hours you have worked on the two wiki pages, I will gladly provide the equivalent of $8-10 per hour. Just let me know if you are ok with this or if you prefer an alternative.

Kind regards

New Update - I have created a Drop Box account with all the documents - Please let me know how we can move forward.

Many Thanks

John — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnelec17 (talk • contribs) 16:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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I made this today

Planning to use it on my userpage File:Ireland_background.jpeg and as a wallpaper for my laptop. What do you think? The scruffy parts are intentional. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 19:52, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

It is simply beautiful. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:56, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Really?? Your opinion matters a lot to me. I usually spend my time working in Krita or Photoshop. I like design. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 20:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Teahouse

You gave me some feed back in the tea room that I greatly appreciate! I don't yet know enuf about wiki to respond on the tea room page but I hope y;ou get this! Thanks! GMarin 02:36, 11 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lrh246 (talk • contribs)

Portal:U2, we need your opinion

Please, answer (whenever you can) the questions that Pjoef made here Portal:U2/Quotes, we are trying to revamp the portal to nominated for Features Portal. The questions looks like this Q:..., I've answer a few of them. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:19, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jim,

Did you see my message earlier this week?

John — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnelec17 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Snertking. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Mel Sembler have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, you can use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Contrary to your assertion, the text you referred to was not WP:BLP, as this was a major scandal covered by numerous reputable sources including the st. petersburg times, huffington post and the washington post. see previous discussion on the talk page for the rational as to why this is not BLP —Preceding undated comment added 06:55, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Snertking. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Mel Sembler have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, you can use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Contrary to your assertion, the text you referred to was not WP:BLP, as this was a major scandal covered by numerous reputable sources including the st. petersburg times, huffington post and the washington post. see previous discussion on the talk page for the rational as to why this is not BLP