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Unblock request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Bonkers The Clown (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Half a year has passed by, and in this period of time I have sincerely atoned. Looking back, I deeply wish that I had not committed such deplorable acts here. I do enjoy editing here and hence it is truly a pity that I was led astray by the temptation of trolling. I appreciate this platform of information-spreading and I truly believe that I can serve the project well. I understand where I have gone wrong and my soul has been purified, after half a year of meditation in peace. May we not neglect the multitude of good articles and may we not dwell on mishaps. Having been cast aside for six months, I ask for your forgiveness and may we put things aside to make this world a better place. I ask, kind admin reading this, that I be unblocked. I promise to do what a good Wikipedian would. I will accept whatever penalties the community decides to impose on me, just so that I may return to proper editing, which is what I truly love. It is understandable if you reject my unblock request. I will not harbour hate toward you if you do. Rather, it is love, and only love, that I will give to the world. Embrace the world with love and do good, that is the way of life I have attained. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Thank you for reading this and Bless You. --☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Accept reason:

We all make mistates; being willing to own up to them is commendable. I believe a second chance is reasonable here, so I have unblocked you. Please bear in mind your edits will be subject to closer scrutiny than many editors', but if you keep productive there's no reason you can't be a valued member of the community. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Although I found Bonkers annoying in some of our interactions, I believe he has the desire and ability to contribute quality content, especially on poorly represented topics. I support unblocking him and am willing to offer him some guidance. --Hildanknight (talk) 15:06, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@The Bushranger:, are you aware that this user was blocked after a community discussion (see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive819#Request indefinite block of User:Bonkers The Clown) so a unilateral unblock may not have been appropriate. Even if we are going to give this user another chance (4th or 5th? Certainly not his second chance), we should be applying topic bans to try and prevent previous problems from reoccuring. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:02, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@The Bushranger: God bless. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@MSGJ: Existng topic bans on race-related issues will still be in force. Plus the fact that I've endured half a year in exile, I think that should suffice. God bless. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@The Bushranger:, you wrote in November at the Bonkers the Clown is indefinitely banned from nominating any article to DYK and is indefinitely banned from moving any page to mainspace unless it is approved by an uninvolved admin alternate blocking proposal at the link provided by MSGJ, Support as condition of any unblock - for reasons already rather well-stated. Are you invoking this here? Already today there have been two DYK nominations (one article moved to mainspace, and one direct mainspace creation). BlueMoonset (talk) 13:14, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Something's not quite right. "I understand where I have gone wrong and my soul has been purified, after half a year of meditation in peace". Maybe a bit much? I won't speculate on this editor's... "issues" here. Doc talk 13:38, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I do not know whether it is invoked and The Bushranger did not make it clear. However, I would like to seek some good faith and just allow me to start off from where I stopped. We have too little time on Earth and too much to do. Stop the nit-picking and spread the love. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 14:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you actually want "to seek some good faith", why don't you show some to begin with? In your unblock request, you claimed you "will accept whatever penalties the community decides to impose on me." But once unblocked, you're demanding the community to "stop the nit-picking" when they want to (rightly) enforce sanctions that had earlier been agreed upon at WP:ANI. What's with the sudden change of heart? Smells like bad faith bargaining to me. —Bloom6132 (talk) 20:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Disclaimer: Neutral third party view, since I stayed out of that ANI discussion and did not vote either for or against blocking/sanctions against BTC.
BlueMoonset - I didn't write the first part of that, it should be noted; I'd forgotten all about that kerfuffle, to be honest, if I had I'd have clarified it here. That said, Bonkers, I'd suggest that while - assuming good faith that it'd slipped your mind as well - that you refrain from any further DYK activity (and moving-to-mainspace) until you request that the community lift that sanction, as it was seperate from the block; no action on the existing ones, per AGF. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:49, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@The Bushranger: Sincere apologies for forgetting something stated more than 180 days ago. I will heed your words and "refrain" from doing so, until the community has heard my case and (hopefully) realises that I wish only to do good and spread the love. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 08:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back Bonkers! Good you to see you around again just in time for an AFC backlog drive too. However, can I also echo Bushranger's comments - your edits are going to have more scrutiny and if you ever doing anything block-worthy again, it probably will be for much longer. I'm trusting you won't! I'm also assuming your apology covers your sock puppetry and understanding that doing that was just wrong. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:27, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Your userpage

I'd pack that in right now - whilst I don't personally think it violates WP:POLEMIC, you're now in an edit war on your own userpage. Don't let your return to editing end before it's even properly begun. Yunshui 雲水 12:50, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Yunshui: I made peace with the editor before undoing his edit. See my contribs. No war. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 12:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
We came to a conclusion on my user page Origamite\(·_·\)(/·_·)/ 12:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough - just promise me you won't carry on reverting if a third user objects! Yunshui 雲水 12:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Declining submissions

You are declining a lot of submissions at AfC and Draft. While checking thos submissions is a necessary task, it has to be done very carefully, and with correct and helpful reasons in the case of a decline. I have undone two declines and moved the articles to the mainspace because I believe that your declines totally misrepresented the articles. These are The Marina Affair and Michigan Cyber Range. I have serious doubts about some others as well, like Wikipedia_talk:Articles for creation/Greeks of the Sea or Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Creative Group, the Agro-Industrial Company, which doesn't read like an ad. Declining submissions for incorrect or inadequately explained reasons only baffles and discourages potential contributors, and doesn't help Wikipedia. Fram (talk) 13:11, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article declined

Hello Bonkers, Please, explain me more precisely why the approval of the submitted article has been declined.

ThanksHeavyRiff (talk) 13:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop

Please stop your work on AfC and Draft articles. You are going way too fast, not giving the articles the time they deserve, and offer completely incorrect advice to the editors involved (and too often incorrectly decline their submissions). You have now stated at User talk:HeavyRiff[1] that "It is unreferenced and reads like an advertisement.". This is about Draft:Welcome Chinese[2], an article with 16 sources including e.g. the New York Times or this article from China Daily[3]. I don't see the "advertisement" either, but that is always more of a judgment call. But telling someone that this an unreferenced article is plainly ridiculous. Fram (talk) 13:41, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Fram: Excuse me, unreferenced does not mean entirely unreferenced. If I'm injured I only need to have just one part of myself injured, not from head to toe. Look at the many unreferenced paragraphs in the article! References are missing at so many parts. And look at the headings of the sections. I do not know why you approved it, but I disagree with your call. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:48, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"'Tis but a scratch!"
"But your honour, the victim was unharmed!" "Unharmed? Only a toe was left, the rest was shredded!" "But that toe was unharmed, and I only need to have one part unharmed to be unharmed". I don't think your reasoning is entirely correct... Fram (talk) 13:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Following much the same line of reasoning as Fram, I have just removed Bonkers's name from the AfC whitelist. The reviews I'm seeing from you, Bonkers, are absolutely not of sufficient quality for that project. Until you can demonstrate enough understanding of the relevant policies that we can tell you're qualified to be guiding other, newer editors, please direct your efforts somewhere else. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There has been concern expressed from several editors that Bonkers should not even have been unblocked without community review. The problems that we are seeing on several fronts are becoming... problematic. Again. Sorry, Bonkers. Doc talk 14:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've already dropped a note on Bushranger's talk page, as Bonkers was socking as late as 31 December last year, and I am reasonably sure Yunshui found the socking and decided he was not going to unblock Bonkers any time soon because of it. I've also had a complaint from an editor about a declined submission myself, that I am utterly convinced meets at least one criteria of WP:NMUSIC and have only not passed it myself because I personally know the band.

I am just gobsmacked by this. I had marked Bonkers down as understanding the AFC criteria. My rule is simple - if you wouldn't AFD or speedy it, pass it. Just slow down with the editing, because all it will take is one edit to ANI and all hell will break loose. Please. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is the band you speak of?--Launchballer 19:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Rocky and the Natives Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:04, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
They seem to meet WP:MUSICBIO#C6a, but I wouldn't approve it because it's a bit messy at the moment. Ritchieandrhonda.com looks suspect given that it looks self-published - you say on your userpage that you share an IP address with a Rhondamerrick - probably you and her! And I can see no good reason for the Players section; either all members should have biographies there, or none should.--Launchballer 10:46, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree it meets that criteria in WP:MUSICBIO but as stated I am not passing it because the submitter cited our blog, creating a potential conflict of interest (even though I've reviewed hundreds if not thousands of music / band submissions at AFC, why take the risk?) Of course it's not a reliable source. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:07, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mass replacement of content with redirects

On 4 June 2014[4], you deleted the content of many articles on primary schools in Singapore and replaced that content with redirects to Primary schools in Singapore. Your edit comments often cited WP:COMMONOUTCOMES, but this is not a policy or a guideline. Most of these pages were not the subjects of AfDs, just the first three, of which you made NACs[5][6][7]. I suggest it would be appropriate to self-revert, pending AfDs which you or others initiate. I note also that your edit comments included "There is too much primary school crap",[8] "trigger happy massacre of all crappy articles. Begone, non-notable pri. schools"[9] and "i pity whoever drummed this up but that's life",[10] that last being Saint Joseph's Institution Junior, an article created in 2005 and since worked on by tens of registered editors. It is hard to see these comments as expressing the same benign attitude you expressed in your unblock request: "Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things." NebY (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have rollbakced all the redirects and AfD closures. While a lot of these are probably non-notable, it is quite obvious no attempt was made to assertain which were. Additionally, the usual procedure is to merge to a more general article (school district, town), not delete. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re-blocked

It is not conceivable that someone who:

  1. does not want to risk repeating previous disruption, and
  2. is capable of recognizing when they're risking disruption

would review 100 AFC pages in 68 minutes. Therefore, you are either unconcerned with repeating previous disruption, or incapable of avoiding it. I'm not sure which it is, but I don't need to know. I've thought carefully about whether yet another warning is appropriate or not, and decided that it isn't; at some point, "last chance" has to mean "last chance". You don't appear to even be trying to avoid disruption. Re-blocked indefinitely. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:16, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Floquenbeam: Reviewing 100 AFC pages is disruptive? I call cowcrap on that. Monkeys drop from vines sometimes. Just because of a few bad judgements (which can actually be justified), all my reviews get mass-rollbacked by blind editors. Last year I reviewed close to 540 articles, of which only five failed during a check by AFC reviewers. Having not edited for roughly half a year, my mind will obviously be rusty and I may miscontrue certain things. Bar me from Afc, give me a warning, that is acceptable. But to block me for "disruption"? It was never in my intent to disrupt and the fact that I sacrificed that much of my time to look at these drafts shows that I was, in good faith, wanting to alleviate the troubling situation. The reason why articles here are becoming crappier is because of lax approvals. So what if the topic itself is notable but the content and tone is crappy? Never mind that – notice how I stopped reviewing after Fram pointed out a few of my bad rejections? Did I continue to review? I did not! My decisions are justifiable, whereas your call to block me because I spent time at AfC trying to clear the backlog is not. Note that I was blocked previous NOT because of AfC. I stress that I do not think I was, and I was not, engaging in disruptive editing. May faith strive on! Praise our Saviour! --☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 08:22, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Bonkers, you may have a point that you stopped AfC reviewing the minute somebody said what you were doing was problematic, and therefore the block might not be "preventing damage and disruption" to the degree we feared. Okay. But saying to the blocking admin "I call cowcrap on that" will just lead to rolled eyes and you staying blocked. Perhaps, just perhaps you might be able to persuade Floq, Bushranger, Yunshui, hell let's get @DangerousPanda: in here for a fourth opinion, that you promise to only edit in article space, you get a mentor (are we still doing those?) and you promise to abide by any and all topic bans you are served. Otherwise, you might as well forget about Wikipedia forever and do something else. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:00, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for seeing from my perspective. I never intended to disrupt the peace. I promise. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:03, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's almost cruel to give Bonkers the hope of being unblocked now. Bonkers is not going to get it, ever. Someone needs to just end this charade. Doc talk 10:22, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You have to believe, otherwise it will never happen ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:33, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You just sealed your fate, below, with the "female former lecturer" bit. Don't be socking, now. Doc talk 11:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
People get upset by a few bad AfC-related edits, forgetting about the starving kids of Africa, the wars around the world, famines, natural disasters, political turmoil, riots, global violence, etc. Where has our good faith gone? ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:40, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Cry me a river. You're screwed, Bonkers. Female former lecturers? Who cares what gender a lecturer is? Or what race, for that matter? You are just so totally done. Buh-bye now. Doc talk 11:48, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My dear female former lecturer, it is also patently untrue that I have learnt "nothing", as much as you'd like to paint this false picture to discourage magnanimous admins from unblocking the misunderstood me. In the past I would like to take snide digs at editors. I now no longer do so. I use the standard automated message churned out by AFCH. I also listen better to fellow editors. After being told off by Fram I stopped immediately, no questions asked. Being a grandmother, User:Voceditenore, why not display some compassion to a slightly younger individual like me and demonstrate good faith, for I have stressed that it was only in my sincerest intentions to ease the backlog. We have all but this lifetime, shimmering like the heart of Jupiter, and melting like a vat of peacock feathers in the fiery Sun. Much love, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:29, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Long hair in Singapore

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:52, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Power ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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