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NO; YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COME IN!!

Well, isn't that sad ...

I hope you get a new account soon, Hafs! Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:12, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, is someone helping Hafs get rid of the hacker/hacking? That is very strange and awful. I don't have any advice but I hope someone is helping her or finding someone who can. Softlavender (talk) 01:30, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Bgwhite is assistance being provided to this user via email and other backchannels? Irondome (talk) 01:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your attempted ping won't work since your four tildes were used with a typo version, so I'll ping Bgwhite .... See Irondome's question above. Softlavender (talk) 02:23, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Irondome and Softlavender: I know Hafs has had some help locally. Both Drmies and I are in contact with Hafs via email. Hafs mentioned being unable to log into Wikipedia as it was refusing their password. I've blocked Hafs account as a precaution. Bgwhite (talk) 04:39, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Bgwhite and Drmies: My concern is that if her computer is hacked, then how do you know her email is actually reaching her and not the hacker? If her WP password was changed, then the hacker had (and presumably still has) access to, and possibly control over, her email. You really need some way to ascertain that you are corresponding with Hafs and not the imposter. I know she's overseas for both of you, but is there any way you might call her? Softlavender (talk) 04:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Softlavender I have the same concern about Hafs email too. I don't have Hafs' phone number. Hafs never mentioned blocking their account, that is completely on me.  :) Bgwhite (talk) 05:00, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Phil has her phone number and has in the past spoken to her directly (or at least met her in person, and thus presumably has her phone number), if you want to avail yourselves of her assistance. Softlavender (talk) 05:22, 30 September 2015 (UTC): edited Softlavender (talk) 05:26, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My understanding, such as it is, is that Hafs feels there is some risk that this account could be used maliciously, so if it isn't blocked, it needs to be vigilantly watched. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:24, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just for Hafs ....

A nice image [1]. -- Softlavender (talk) 09:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

This one goes with Softlavender's dog.

Drmies (talk) 14:25, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I really hope this is sorted quickly Hafs. This must be very stressful and I really empathise if you are feeling that way. I've never seen this situation before :/ It looks like our colleagues have the situation in hand, from the comments upthread. I hope this is cleared up quickly and you are very soon back! Kind regards, Simon, aka Irondome (talk) 14:38, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A Swedish pig for you

This one goes with Drmies's kitten and Softlavender's dog. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:59, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Not currently compromised by Piggate [reply]


A brown white-lipped tree frog for you!

Ich bin gebraunt weg. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 20:06, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Jag är en munk". Martinevans123 (talk) 20:48, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Je suis une grenouille croquante". Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 20:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]


A German Leopard slug for you!

What a magnificent beast! Notice it is crossing the road. Be careful Mr slug! From Simon. Irondome (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ouch! I thought slugs couldn't fly. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:43, 30 September 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Bad News

WMF reports password hasn't changed and CU checks look good. I've unblocked Hafs' account. Sorry for the bad news, but Hafs can vandalize our talk pages once again. Bgwhite (talk) 22:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers cheers cheers! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:23, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Resilient Barnstar
Welcome back. You've cheated death again. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:28, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
An aphorism frequently used by U.S. Navy Aircraft carrier pilots. To be compared with YGBSM! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:32, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A glass of Akvavit for you!

Hurray! Welcome back, Hafspajen! Here's a glass of Akvavit for you!

– Corinne (talk) 02:22, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hafs, where are you? I hope you are all right. We miss you. Corinne (talk) 19:06, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Something sweet for you

Aah! Enough to make anyone broody... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 14:20, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What are you hinting, PCW? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:50, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No hinting, Gareth. I just thought it was a cute picture. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:23, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
... there is an article, you may like. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:09, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(runs off to get tubes tied) Kafka Liz (talk) 16:47, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Something bitter for you

SOUP FOR EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spiritual Cleansing

A great person from Sweden died, Henning Mankell, author of Chronicler of the Winds and of course the Wallander crime fiction. I met him in 2009. Both articles are in a sad state. Help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But you're unable to edit any more, aren't you Hafs, because your account has been blocked as it was compromised, through no fault of your own, whatsoever. You'll have to forgive us asking you all the questions which you can't even answer. (Unless may you've now made a new account??) .... But Gerda's right you know.... he even does dogs! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:26, 5 October 2015 (UTC) very sorry, User talk:Ryk72 if my deeply bitter and sarcastic "humour", which has earned me multiple pictorial "gifts" from Hafs, over the years, appears to you as "trolling". Why not take a quick look at my very well-decorated Talk Page?! Some of us are big Mankell fans, you know??[reply]
It seems sometimes those cheeky Welsh trolls get a bit lost in translation... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:58, 5 October 2015 (UTC) [reply]
Just 'cos you Saesnegs lost, there's no need to set our good womenfolk's hair on fire! "Red Fanny" (talk) 22:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Account is unblocked but who wants to edit anymore if Floq doesn't (who once told me that I am so unbitter, - look under "blushing" on my talk)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:31, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocked? Really? Then we await some response from Hafs with gleeful anticipation. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:13, 6 October 2015 (UTC) Yes, Gerda, so much better than being Bitter and Twisted[reply]
Here I preach letting go all the time but this was one of the hardest. Here I preach "he who speaks a word of consolation ..." (user page) but when I needed some that's where I would go. Tough. Beware, I may come to you now ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
For some reason, this video always make me think of Wikipedia editing...... shake people too hard and they drop their books... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


I literally have no idea. I consider the other suspect to be too much of an idiot to do something like that (but I know there is some evidence pointing that way). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:51, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dunno, somebody said that the more simple the more efficient methods. Hafspajen (talk) 16:55, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm with Xanterix. I think your email account got abused. It takes much more than an old(-fashioned) detective to hack a computer. Drmies (talk) 22:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, calm down, Drimatrix. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Skeptics, skeptics, skeptics. Yes, my email account got abused,Drmies. But it happened because the computer was hacked. And don't tell me that I put sensors in my own computer, and by the way what is that user Pnp_20001 doing on my computer? And the <Brother- device driver that just popped out of nowhere? And my passwords that were removed from my computers too, out of nowhere - suddenly nobody asking for password any more; I just got in - without any password control at all, just "welcome" - huh? Where did the password go?? Why was the screen getting black for hours? Who is closing the tabs on me the moment I go on Wikipedia from those computers? Who is logging me out from my own computer when I log in to Wikipedia? Where are all those weird programs coming form? Who changed my password on Wiki? Is that a poltergeist? Eh? And WHY would I invent such things, to start with, Drmies? Hafspajen (talk) 14:02, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • User Pnp_20001 is just a process Microsoft uses when installing a device. Perhaps you have a faulty device somewhere. Lots of people have their computers hacked, usually by criminals looking for credit card info and so on. However that wouldn't result in the kind of behaviour you describe. If your Wikipedia password is not obvious, then it's quite impossible it's been hacked except if you stored it somewhere where it could be found or if you happen to type it out each time you log in. NSA itself couldn't do it, not could people in Wikipedia itself give it away (because it's encrypted). I suggest you just get your computer serviced or get a knowledgeable friend to look at it. I also suggest you back up all your files right now in case it fails. 128.90.60.217 (talk) 15:43, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are backed up like ages ago. And the rest of it, too. Since I am not to knowledgeable about computer, maybe that user:Pnp_20001 is OK, but the rest is still not. There are tons of things that happened with those computers, and it would take ages to describe all the weird thing going on. I rather won't discuss those things, because it is SOO OBVIOUSLY HACKED that there absolutely no doubt of it. The cursor moving all by itself, (he is not using that any more) tabs closing down when one I not closing them, flashes from the camera, programs added that there were not there the day before.... no doubt of it whatsoever, at all. Hows the weather over there? Hafspajen (talk) 15:51, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weather's fine here. A bit cold. Those computers? Are you in fact part of a remote network? That would be very different. Minimum precautions would be switch off your computer each time you finish work. I should have mentioned you shouldn't store your password in your browser. That's not secure. Use a password manager. I'm just trying to reassure you. Anyone seriously hacking into your computer, NSA for example, wouldn't be doing that kind of stuff. You wouldn't know. 207.207.22.53 (talk) 04:54, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like perhaps somebody broke in through Windows Remote Desktop. It's supposed to let a technician fix your computer from afar, but if hackers tricked you into letting them in through that door, they could take full control over your computer as you describe and install any type of awful spyware / malware / viruses they wanted to. You really need to either reinstall Windows or just buy a new computer, imo. Zeng8r (talk) 16:31, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Zeng8r - exactly. AND he is adding some kind of extra programs to it every time one reinstalls the Windows ... to, but I am glad you get it. Bercause that is exactly what is happening, and Bluetooth programs and family control programs are added and what not. And if I removed them, the next day were back again. And if you are inside a coputer, there is not much trouble changing a Wiki pasworh or whatever they like to do. RAT is probably involved too. And it is illegal, of course. Hafspajen (talk) 16:56, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dear, a rat in mi 'puter! How very unhygenic! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know the details of the recent troubles that Hafs has been having, but if an account has been compromised, it does seem more likely that someone just guessed a password or something similarly simple, because why would someone go to any more trouble just to cause mischief to a Wikipedia editor - especially to one who is interested in subjects like fine art and dogs? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Probably one of those dastardly Bahamian pilots. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • i think I may have missed something here, so perhaps shouldn't comment at all. Kafka Liz (talk).
(... has never yet stopped me). Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 16 October 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Signpost FC

Hi, Hafspajen,
I don't know if you are still working on the Signpost article on Featured Content but this week's edition has just been posted, if you would like to help with some descriptions or resizing photos: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-10-07/Featured content. Thanks for your help! Liz Read! Talk! 16:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

McCloskey

Hi, I'm interested in working on an article on William J. McCloskey and I see your excellent draft. Are you planning to publish? Happy to help!

Best, Subsidiaerie (talk) 18:32, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Livingstone, I presume? Hafspajen (talk) 15:19, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Giant virtual muffins

Coffee-shop dodgem
This reminds me a bit of you: prevented from using your computers by a malicious individual who tracks your every key-stroke, only able to edit wikipedia from coffee-shops, etc. No doubt you are as sweet as ever, even if a bit irritated. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:21, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For you

This is for your contributions. Regards Ezaid Fabber (talk) 18:16, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sheesh! If we're going up market like that (and knowing you are such a keen birdwatcher...) you can even help yourself to some of these. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:39, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Something for Haffy

Old Woman Frying Eggs – per your interest in food-related matters. I like the detail in the image, how the dimensionality of the various items stands out (e.g. items on the table), and how it's painted in a realistic manner. View enlarged image to fully appreciate. North America1000 18:48, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Eat ur heart out, Tjalf Sparnaay". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:05, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
GIGGLE. Hafspajen (talk) 13:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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