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October 12

Identification of a Aussie footy player

Hi, Can anyone identify the player running with Collingwood's Levi Greenwood in this picture?

The picture was taken at an open training session on 12 December 2014.

@The-Pope: @JackETC: maybe you guys have an idea

Thanks,

--SuperJew (talk) 06:38, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Oxley? Hack (talk) 07:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I asked for help from Collingwood fans on twitter, and Oxley was their answer too. The first photo on this page seems to look like the runner. The-Pope (talk) 12:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Thanks guys. Fixing it up now. --SuperJew (talk) 13:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, User:SuperJew. Can I suggest that you crop it into two separate photos and use each isolated photo, rather than the pair, on each player's page. The pair photo might be suitable for 2015 Collingwood Football Club season or similar. The-Pope (talk) 13:38, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I was considering that (even just for Greenwood originally), but my default photo editing program was making problems. I'll try to do it when I have some more time. Or maybe someone else will beat me to the punch? --SuperJew (talk) 13:43, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done :D cropped for Greenwood and uploaded another pic for Oxley. --SuperJew (talk) 18:01, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

October 14

Looking for an 80s dramedy/comedy

I'm looking for an 80s dramedy/comedy. For a long time, I thought it'd be Arthur (1981), but now that I'm watching it, it's not the one.

The main character of the film I'm looking for also seems to be either a childish millionaire, or really a millionaire kid. Digging deep in the back of my memory, he had the name Eric and had a black adult servant and confidant. I dimly remember a funny scene where the black servant was locked out of the Penthouse, running around on the lawn while trying not to get wet by the many sprinklers and calling, "Eric! Eric!" for his master to let him back in. --2003:48:2E4C:B175:11DD:8C1B:A072:CC9A (talk) 03:39, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

From your description I am pretty sure that you are remembering The Toy (1982 film). MarnetteD|Talk 04:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! :) I'll check it out to see if that's the one. --2003:48:2E4C:B175:11DD:8C1B:A072:CC9A (talk) 05:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that The Toy is most likely, but Carbon Copy is a 1981 film that features a millionaire (George Segal) and a black millionaire's kid (Denzel Washington). StuRat (talk) 03:10, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

October 17

NCAA football rules: catching your own pass?

The Michigan-Michigan State football game is on TV right now, and the UM quarterback just caught his own pass: it was thrown forward, batted backward, and he caught it. Statistically, is this a pass and a catch for him, i.e. is it possible for the same player to throw a pass and to catch it, or is it recorded some other way? I couldn't find anything addressing self-passes from a statistical angle; I found sites like this one, but they all address the question of legality, not the statistical side of things. Nyttend (talk) 23:09, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The box score shows the Michigan QB with 1 pass reception for minus-3 yards.[1] Does that describe the play in question? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:56, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does; I didn't think of checking ESPN. Is that something that would have been updated throughout the game, or would I have had to wait a few minutes until the game was over? Nyttend (talk) 23:58, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can't say with absolute certainty, but if you look at any game that's still being played, it appears they are keeping the box score updated as they go. I was hoping to find a play-by-play of it there, but I didn't see one offhand. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

CFL rules obviously aren't relevant here, but for interest... I remember watching a game where something like this happened, and the quarterback passed the ball forward again. The referee threw a flag and called it illegal procedure because only one forward pass is allowed on a play, and the QB afterwards said he should have known better. So in the CFL it seems it would be a pass all right. --174.88.134.156 (talk) 04:31, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would be consistent with all levels of gridiron football, as far as I know: Only one forward pass allowed per play. Of course you can do unlimited lateral or backwards passes. Nyttend's question was about how the stat is recorded, as it's certainly a forward pass, even though there was a negative gain, which happens sometimes with passes. In this case, the QB has to be recorded as the receiver because he's the one who got possession. When a forward pass is made, only certain offensive players are eligible receivers: the backs and the ends. (All the defenders are eligible, of course.) But if the ball is tipped or batted up into the air, everyone becomes eligible, and whoever catches it and gets possession would get credit for the reception. If no one catches it cleanly, of course it's an incomplete pass. (I'm waiting fo Jayron to turn up here, as he is the real football maven.) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:23, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brad Johnson not only caught his own pass in the NFL, he scored a touchdown on the play. His NFL.com stats show his 1997 catch and TD. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If the quarterback made a forward pass and it was batted back to him then yes, he would get credit for a completed pass and yards he may have ran. According for the NFL rule book, "A forward pass may be touched or caught by any eligible receiver. All members of the defensive team are eligible. Eligible receivers on the offensive team are players on either end of line (other than center, guard, or tackle) or players at least one yard behind the line at the snap." (http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/forwardpass)Kmmi227 (talk) 17:59, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

October 18

add zonderling

artist zonderling is not included .223.176.152.231 (talk) 09:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Be more specific. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 11:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See Noisia. I've created a redirect from Zonderling. Tevildo (talk) 15:56, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jews wearing tallit / Jewish High Priest in film

Hi. For a hobby project I'm involved in, I'm looking for some film clips, preferably on YouTube, of:

Jews wearing the tallit OR
The Jewish High priest

It would be idea if the scene/s involved dialogue. Other than that, I'm not too fussed. Can be animation, live action, whatever. Any help gratefully received. Some ideas I've thought of but rejected:

The synagogue scene in 1980 version of The Jazz Singer - no dialogue
The High Priest-type sequence at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark - too brief, no dialogue
The stoning sequence in The Life of Brian - just one character wearing a tallit

Thanks in advance! --Dweller (talk) 14:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A Serious Man has a scene of a bar mitzvah ceremony which might qualify, though I don't recall exactly if there's a tallit there. Staecker (talk) 16:21, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

October 19

War (2007 film)

I want to make sure. If Tom Lone is actually Still Alive, then why did the Guy say, ["Tom Lone is dead. My name is Rogue."]?

Becuz of that Phrase, I believed for a Moment that Rogue was Alive all Along — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.173.3.162 (talk) 04:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Link, in case anyone who's seen the film pops by and can answer the question: War (2007 film). Our article outlines a complicated plot, but the line "Rogue is actually FBI agent Tom Lone (who, after undergoing plastic surgery, changed his voice to obtain a Japanese accent); and killed the real Rogue" implies that Lone is alive and Rogue is dead. --Dweller (talk) 09:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying that Tom Lone changed his Identity Card to Rogue at the End of this Film?(50.173.3.170 (talk) 13:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)).[reply]

Forgot film

Forgot horror film title from the 2000s (most likely American, certainly in English) involving witchcraft where a young man is thrown into air by supernatural force and killed. There's also a repairman who is called to fix some house wiring, gets electrocuted and also dies due to witchcraft. Animal remains for the purposes of witchcraft are also found in the forest. Superficially resembles The Blair Witch Project, but not that film. Thanks--93.174.25.12 (talk) 09:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can Anduril glow in the book?

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle-earth_weapons_and_armour:

The filmmakers opted not to make Andúril glow at all, keeping that property only for Sting. (Gandalf's sword Glamdring also did not glow in the presence of orcs. Peter Jackson notes, in his DVD commentary on The Fellowship of the Ring, that this was an oversight, not a deliberate change from the books.)

Does it mean that in the book Anduril can glow, but the filmmakers opted not to, like Glamdring and Orcrist (and yes, I know that Glamdring is an oversight, but in The Hobbit it doesn't glow either), or that they initially wanted to make it glow, but decided that it isn't consistent with the book? 139.195.93.229 (talk) 12:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doing my semi-annual re-reading of the books right now. I don't recall anything about Andúril literally glowing, though the name ('flame of the west') certainly insinuates that. There are certainly mentions of the blade "flashing". At one point, I think when the company is near the Falls of Rauros, Aragorn asks Frodo to draw Sting so that they can see if orcs are close. Presumably he wouldn't have done that if his sword exhibited the same properties (in the book, of course, Aragorn has the sword at this point, but in the movies he wouldn't have). I suspect that our article is in error. 64.235.97.146 (talk) 14:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that in the books, Anduril does not glow in the presence of orcs the way Sting does. Sting, Glamdring, and Orcrist were all forged in Gondolin during the first Age. Anduril was forged in the third age, out of the shards of Narsil, which was forged in the second age. My opinion was that the art of making orc-detecting glow was lost at the closing of the first age, but I cannot find any clear canonical support for that claim. Maybe Elrond et al. could indeed have made Anduril glow to detect orcs, but they didn't. lotr.wikia has some coverage of these blades [2]. SemanticMantis (talk) 15:03, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps Narsil was made of stuff which could not be made to glow, even in Gondolin. — Foster's Complete Guide to Middle-earth says that Narsil was made in the First Age by Telchar, a Dwarf, who also made the knife with which Beren pried a Silmaril from the Iron Crown. —Tamfang (talk) 07:19, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mister Rogers' Clothes Change

Was it a commonly occurring thing for people to change from blazers and loafers into cardigans and sneakers upon arriving home from the office in Fred Rogers' time? 20.137.7.64 (talk) 13:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

White collar workers often change into different clothing when they get home from work to this day. It may not be cardigans and sneakers but a change often happens nonetheless. This is, in part, to keep their work clothes cleaner. A pair of pants, for example, will often not show any dirt or wear after just a day at the office, so they may be changed upon arriving at home. That's not an easy thing to do on a children's show but shoes and a blazer/cardigan are easy to show. Plus, Rogers would look more relaxed and less formal. Dismas|^(talk) 13:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Four person conflicts

I'm looking for fictitious conflicts involving four individuals with the conflict situation being

either two against two
or "round robin" - everyone against all the others.

In the first case, I know Batman & Robin vs. Green Hornet & Cato (but still looking for more). I know no example for the second situation. Coming close is the essential conflict in the early stages of Guardians of the Galaxy: Starlord vs Gamora vs Rocket+Groot vs The Nova Corps, but the latter two are not only individuals. Has there, possibly, ever been a Mexican Standoff between four gunmen? --KnightMove (talk) 16:56, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The closest thing to a four man Mexican standoff I can think of is near the end of Reservoir Dogs, but not everybody is armed in that one. May be worth a look, though. 64.235.97.146 (talk) 17:27, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Most of Tarantino's trademark Mexican standoffs would qualify. Also the one from Pulp Fiction features four parties all armed: Jules and Pumpkin are aimed at each other, Honey Bunny is aimed at Jules, while Vincent is aimed at Honey Bunny. It's not a full cycle, as Vincent is not under direct threat, just as in the Reservoir Dogs example, it's not a full cycle as Orange is not himself threatening anyone. Tarantino's Mexican Standoffs usually each have their own unique twists like this, each one has a different permutation. --Jayron 32 16:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

IIRC, Honey Bunny starts off pointing her gun at Vincent - or at least swings between the two. Jules then tells her to direct the gun at himself. 64.235.97.146 (talk) 19:34, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, Honey Bunny is pointing the gun at Jules at the start, and Vincent (who was in the bathroom at the start of the conflict) sneaks up on her and points the gun at her. She gets confused and starts to swing the gun between the two momentarily, but Jules tells her to return the gun back at himself. Except for the brief instant when she's surprised by Vincent, she in mostly trained on Jules. --Jayron 32 20:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For an alternative idea on this scene, go to about the 2 minute mark of this item:[3] ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest any Professional wrestling Tag team match would qualify for the first. I have seen four way matches too. --TrogWoolley (talk) 12:49, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

English football manager of the year (pre-LMA)

My google-fu is failing me right now. English football has had an annual manager of the year award since at least 1969 (Don Revie winning that year). It went through a period of sponsorship by Bell's and was voted on, like the Professional Footballers' Association awards. I've only been able to find the award history from the League Managers Association, but they only go back to when they were first formed in 1992. Does anyone know who ran the English manager of the year before that? Fuebaey (talk) 18:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This forum posting has a list - unsourced, I'm afraid. It's surprisingly difficult to track down for something that was presumably well-publicized at the time. Tevildo (talk) 19:19, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

October 21

Qualification of football team in Copa Sudamericana and Copa Libertadores

In this possible scenario, São Paulo FC finished the Campeonato Brasileiro Série A last season in 6th place and was qualified to participate Copa Sudamericana second stage. This season, they have won the Copa Sudamericana and was qualified to this season's Copa Libertadores. Then, they have also won the Copa Libertadores and they finished the Campeonato Brasileiro Série A champions this season. In this perfect case, will São Paulo FC can both participate again in Copa Sudamericana and Copa Libertadores next season? Or they will only be qualified to next season's Copa Libertadores? Mphba (talk) 00:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

beitar jerusalem

Considering it well-known that at least in recent years (if not ever since founding) the team has a bigoted history even amongst secular/leftist jews. I was wondering what happens when the games every season at their ground feature Arab players/managers (I imagine their must be some Arab coaches at top teams). Also do the Jewish teammates of the Arabs turn out in support of their teammates against the bigotry? (what with Jews from Arab countries/Arab speakers).Lihaas (talk) 03:56, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any direct knowledge of this, but you can find some good related info and sources at Beitar_Jerusalem_F.C.#Fans_and_anti-Semitism and La_Familia_(Beitar_supporters'_group). SemanticMantis (talk) 14:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yevadu Film

I'm born in America but my Parents originated from India.

1. If people are saying that Retaliation is Wrong in SVU episode Grief during 2003, then Why did the Actress refuse to call Cops to Arrest the Hero to push Villian out of the Window in Yevadu Film 2014?

2. Seriously be honest is It becuz there are Diferent Rules between America & India?(166.177.248.154 (talk) 22:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)).[reply]