User talk:Flyer22 Frozen

I RETIRED IN THE MULTIVERSE

This user left Wikipedia in an alternate universe...

Flyer22 died sometime between 13:24, 23 October 2015 and 14:21, 23 October 2015. Well, a little after 14:21, 23 October 2015. You can learn more about her at her introduction page and user page. Also see her views on disruptive editors and the administrators who protect the project from them, and her acknowledging a lack of respect for those who don't. The few WP:INVOLVED administrators who seemed like they would block her at any time for protecting the project, especially the one or two acting like she was problematic, also featured low on her "respect list." In fact, it was this latter aspect that led to her death. She was never a big believer in templating the regulars. She was quite the hardened personality or hothead after years of dealing with the worst type of editors, and having such matters exacerbated by nonchalant editors (especially nonchalant administrators who haven't a clue about what content creators go through). She often contemplated leaving this depressing place for good, and was clear that she'd never suggest anyone, let alone a woman, edit Wikipedia. Editors wanting to close the gender gap could not rely on her to spread any good word about this site.

I am the new Flyer22 (Flyer22 Reborn), left in her place. I have some of the same ideas or views as her. And I have the same skills as her (for example, I can surely recognize if you are not a WP:Newbie, even though I likely will not press you on it unless necessary). But unlike Flyer22, I take more of a WP:Don't-give-a-fuckism approach. I'll take a potato chip...and eat it! I might also be painfully nice to you even when you are a highly disruptive editor. You can vandalize my user page or talk page, or leave confrontational and/or disparaging remarks on them, and I'll welcome you with open arms, no matter how fake. I might even take the WP:Assume good faith guideline to the extreme, like some other editors here do. You can call me Flyer22, if you like, but mistaking me for the other one is misguided.

If you leave a message here, I will usually reply here instead of at your talk page.

Hey baby

Since this will be the only time I will ever be able to get away with calling you "baby" (Flyer 22 reborn), I thought I would take advantage of it! :) Viriditas (talk) 02:39, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am of course disgusted that you would make such a grossly sexist remark. And even more disgusted that you beat me to it. ;) John Carter (talk) 19:45, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The new Flyer dyed her brown hair platinum blonde and moved to South Beach where she is a high-priced call girl/Sexologist. Wlmg (talk) 01:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In your dreams, buddy. I can see her right now in my mind's eye: she's a beautiful, marine biologist who is desperately trying to save the world's oceans from collapse and trying to get her life-saving research published in a respected journal. She's figured out how to save the coral from bleaching and the fish from dying by decoding a message hidden inside a whale song frequency. She discovers that the oceans are being poisoned by a deadly mixture of caffeine and sildenafil seeping from wastewater treatment plants. She's in a precarious position: how to convince the world powers that they must give up their cup of morning joe and their morning wood? Think Jodie Foster in Contact meets Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich. I can do this for under 50 million. Viriditas (talk) 01:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome

I didn't mind the old flyer22's spirited editing, but I welcome the new flyer22 as well. Congrats.Mattnad (talk) 10:29, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I'm not sure if I am using this correctly, but I just wanted to say, I am not using multiple IP's or accounts to edit pages. I only have this one account.

Thank you. Moley87 (talk)

RfA

I was going to ask if I could nominate you to become an administrator, but I'm not sure if you've left now or not. Still, if you are still here and would like to become an admininistrator, I am happy to nominate you. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 17:06, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This has come up before she has no desire for the mop.Wlmg (talk) 01:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That was before she was reborn. Dr. K. 01:11, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rubbish computer, at this point in my Wikipedia career, it wouldn't work. See User talk:Flyer22 Reborn/Archive 18#Adminship. Maybe in three or five years, when my hothead persona has cooled down (the name "Flyer22 Reborn" is to go along with a change in behavior); but even then, it likely wouldn't work. People have a difficult time getting over troubling past incidents, and often only look at one's blocklog without doing the important research on it. My sockpuppet cases (the two specifically about me), even with Alison helping to explain, and even with having been a big sock catcher, would be something to overcome. I can see all of the questions and other queries that would be posed about that. My youngest brother, who edited Wikipedia as an IP before getting a registered account that became tied to mine, is an actual person. He indeed copied my style of editing and writing (it was how he first learned to work his way through Wikipedia), but not completely; he made mistakes in adapting my style to his. The general Wikipedia editor doesn't know this. And they only have my and Alison's word on it. And then there's my attitude toward Wikipedia, even the current text at the top of my user page (about dying, being reborn. etc.) would be used against me (whether I were to remove it before the WP:RfA or not). As I've recently noted, I am very self-aware and I know how others perceive me (the ones who like me, the ones who don't, and the ones in between); I noted that not being an administrator allowed me more leeway in how I went about dealing with disruptive Wikipedia editors. Montanabw has dealt with disruptive editors in similar ways. And we see how some people commenting in her WP:RfA had an issue with it. I know exactly how administrators are supposed to present themselves and what they should and shouldn't do, but WP:RfAs are based on past behavior, not so much on current or future behavior. So, no, there is no way that I would subject myself to such a grueling process at this point in my Wikipedia career. And it is most certainly a career as far as I'm concerned. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're right Flyer. Your block log (rap sheet) makes you a Wikifelon :( Wlmg (talk) 01:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see. During the renaming the archives were renamed also, therefore, technically speaking, the decision regarding RfA was adopted by the new Flyer. I am disappointed to hear that; the reborn Flyer should not be burdened by the past. Hopefully in the not too distant future the new Flyer may change her mind. Dr. K. 01:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks anyway. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 02:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's good to see you haven't left. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 02:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hugs to both old and new Flyer! And a song for you!. Montanabw^(talk) 03:14, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Like Montanabw said! Since Flyer can be reincarnated based solely on the force of her awesome personality, I request that Todd return to General Hospital, just so we can see more of this! For some odd reason, this whole situation seems to fit the ring tone. ;) Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 03:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Worried

I think you seriously may have slipped a cog this time Flyer. And don't f*ck around with multiverses. You may not like what you find. Wlmg (talk) 20:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

She lives in Florida, the alternate universe of the US. They don't call it "weird" for nothing. Where else can you get attacked by gators and humans, both of whom are trying to eat your face off? And the state government has prohibited their employees from discussing or mentioning climate change (because in the alternate reality known as Florida, climate change is a hoax). Don't even get me started on the hanging chads. If it wasn't for Florida, 9/11 might not have happened, there wouldn't have been multiple wars based on false premises, and I would still be able to get on an airplane without someone touching my balls. Viriditas (talk) 21:34, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

She's in the 'verse where Wikipedia has become the Galactic Library and there are no vandals or trolls or POV-pushers or socks or... --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:42, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's More Than One of Everything. Flyer, I really hope you finally found time to make it all the way through the Fringe series. I admit, the last season is a pain, but there's no better treatment of the multiverse in popular culture. Viriditas (talk) 00:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Last wishes

To the "old Flyer22", so to speak, I hope you were able to enjoy the time you spent here. May the "reborn" Flyer also have a good overall experience here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:06, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello F. I strongly second SNUGGUMS comments here and the barnstar presented by The ed17 below. You have to put up with as much flak as anyone but I must say WikiP is a far better place for all your efforts. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 00:52, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: WP:Articles for deletion/Karen Franklin (2nd nomination)

A page whose deletion discussion you participated in was re-added and nominated for deletion again. See: WP:Articles_for_deletion/Karen_Franklin_(2nd_nomination) Barcaboy2 (talk) 16:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, Barcaboy2, I don't have anything else to state on all of that; as you can see at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karen Franklin, I commented once. I recently linked Karen Franklin at the Hebephilia article, though, because it seemed you were going to forgo nominating it for deletion again. I did think that my linking the article there might lead someone to re-nominate it for deletion, not James since he has a WP:Conflict of interest with her (seeing those two duke it out is like watching a movie or reading a feisty book and needing popcorn to go along with the spectacle, despite the fact that debating sexual interest in early/mid pubescents is something I'd very much rather not be doing or reading), but I don't feel strongly one way or the other about the Karen Franklin article. I know that Franklin would rather not have her Wikipedia article deleted. The new Karen Franklin article is substantially different than the previous one, though. NeilN or some other administrator watching my talk page, do you mind restoring the previous Karen Franklin article, to my WP:Userspace, so that it can be used as a comparison to the new Karen Franklin article?

On a side note: Barcaboy2, I added on to your FYI heading so that it is clearer as to what this discussion is about and will be easier to locate once archived. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:35, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. User:Flyer22 Reborn/sandbox. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Neil. I'll link it at the new deletion debate. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:46, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I was remembering one of the older versions, Neil. The one you recreated seems to be a stubbed version. The stubbed version isn't all that different than the new version. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Commented. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:56, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now restored the "largest" version. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:57, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping

Thanks for pinging me at WT:MEDRS, I had misinterpreted the situation. For me what biomedical means is so clear, so I merely meant that it should not need defining. I realize it is not so for everyone, and I hope my clarification helped. It can at times be difficult to get a clear view of the proposal at hand when a lot of text produced quickly, and quite often I don't have the time to go through every comment when I'm looking at things during my lunch hour. CFCF 💌 📧 16:37, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For you

		The Barnstar of Awesomeness
		For ... everything, really. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 20:08, 29 October 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Thank you very much, The ed17. I shall work even harder to keep my cool on topics such as domestic violence and the WP:MEDRS debates (such as this one), all because of this barnstar from you. I will also work harder to extend that cooler head into other contentious topics. Only then will I feel that I fully deserve your barnstar. You see, "Flyer22 Reborn" is supposed to be a reincarnation of the Flyer22 that Textorus and others were familiar with, except with a touch of Textorus's WP:Don't give a fuckism attitude; this is why I, as Flyer22 Reborn, can take a much needed break from contentious issues and not return until several or many hours later to deal with them; I started doing this before the reincarnation, though -- clicking away from Wikipedia with a labored sigh and going off to do something I enjoy or don't enjoy that much (such as exercising). And, of course, there is also work (real life work). I refuse to let POV-pushers and other problematic editors fully burn me out. Admins and their burnouts are certainly not the only burnouts to keep in mind. Anyway, your barnstar means a lot to me and came at the right time. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure of what happened to lead to the third person and all, but I do think highly of you and am glad that you're not burnt out entirely. Enjoy the barnstar and keep up the good work! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 01:10, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Glenn

Color artwork for Glenn does indeed show him to be white (ex.) I don't see any commentary claiming him to be Asian in the comics other than the wikia?Cebr1979 (talk) 08:37, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Cebr1979. With regard to this and your statement above, it seems that you are basing his race/ethnicity on drawings. I mentioned the artwork in that dummy edit because I've never seen or heard anyone state that Glenn Rhee is white, and figured that you must be basing the matter on your interpretation of the artwork. From what I've gathered from the artwork and interviews such as this one with Steven Yeun, Glenn has always been Asian. There is no indication (that I see) on the Internet that the writers changed his race/ethnicity for the show. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 08:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel like going on one of your searches. Where exactly in that article does it say that Glenn has always been Asian even in the comics? Also, drawings are artwork. So, if your "gathering" things from the "artwork" then it's perfectly fine for me to "base" something on "drawings." LolCebr1979 (talk) 08:56, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See the GIF where Yeun has the comic book imagery right beside his face. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 08:55, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What? The black and white one that solves nothing?Cebr1979 (talk) 08:57, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm stating that both of our interpretations seem to be based on the artwork, and that there is no indication (that I see) on the Internet that the writers changed his race/ethnicity for the show. If it was changed, then why isn't there commentary on it in WP:Reliable sources, like there is for Iris West from The Flash television series being black as opposed to being white for most of her comic book incarnations? Why wouldn't the aforementioned Vanity Fair article, which comments on Yeun's/Glenn's physical appearance, including his race/ethnicity, have mentioned it? I'll get around to asking about this matter at Talk:The Walking Dead (TV series). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 09:05, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can get around to asking whoever it is you want to ask. The fact is, there's nothing that states he's Asian in the comics. I never added anything to the page stating he's white so, even if my edit summary is wrong... who cares? It's an edit summary. As far as the page is concerned (which, y'know, is what matters and all 'cause, like, that's what's important and needs to be accurate and sourced), I removed unsourced info from it. I never replaced it with any other unsourced info. I just removed unsourced info that had only recently been added. Wikipedia thanks me for that, because it follows their policies. But, feel free to go start all your lengthy conversations wherever it is you feel the need to do it. Unless you come up with a reliable source explicitly stating Glenn is Asian in the comics... what exactly are you hoping to accomplish with your questions? You've lost me there. You're not just starting talks for the sake of having talks, are you? Wikipedia shouldn't be used as a fan message board for theories, Flyer. Wikipedia is clear on that, that's not what talk pages are for. Cebr1979 (talk) 09:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The point of asking at Talk:The Walking Dead (TV series) and/or at Talk:The Walking Dead (comic book) is because people think of Glenn as Asian in the comics, and there will be more edits like the one you removed. It is fine to ask about these things at related article talk pages. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 14:52, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in having editors who are very familiar with the comics weighing in on this. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 14:54, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Taken to the talk page. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 15:14, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no global account for "Flyer22"

You may want to create a WP:DG account to prevent vandals from impersonating you. sst✈^discuss 15:10, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If editors are that eager to be me and throw dirt on the Flyer22 name, then they clearly have far too much time on their hands. Perhaps I should consider it a compliment that I've so thoroughly gotten under their skins. Unless they can get all or a good number of my Wikipedia mannerisms just right, such as my tendency to state "Like I stated," then I don't see that their impersonations will be successful. And everyone knows that I am very anti-child sexual abuse, so none of the boy wiki editors stand a chance.

Céréales Killer, since you renamed my account and are familiar with global matters such as this one, any opinion on this rename issue? At Simple English Wikipedia, it currently states, "User account 'Flyer22' is not registered." But it also states "This user has been renamed. The rename log is provided below for reference. 15:17, 23 October 2015 Céréales Killer (talk | changes) renamed user Flyer22 (0 edits) to Flyer22 Reborn (per request)." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:06, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vicarious traumatization

I just came across this article Vicarious traumatization while researching something else. Would you like to work with me on improving this article with more recent research - maybe even try to get it promoted to GA eventually? Minor4th 00:18, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Minor4th, while working with you would help to heal the tempestuous relationship we have, I (as I've stated before at this talk page and in article edit summaries) am quite lazy on Wikipedia these days; I do not build content as actively as I used to. I mainly WP:Patrol. That stated, I am currently working on the Vagina article, and have the Human brain article on my to-do list. My to-do list has several articles on it, including the Sexual fluidity article. If you want to assist me with improving those articles, including bringing them up to WP:GA status, that can be our start to a better working relationship. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:06, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm kinda lazy too about creating content :) but I'm trying to make that a bigger part of my WP experience. I'll take a look at those articles. I do look forward to a more collaborative working relationship going forward. Minor4th 02:09, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Socking / Tisane

You're right again, as usual. I blocked about a dozen or so accounts tonight. You might want to go over their contribs and page creations for the usual POV. I notice they've been arguing with you on Talk:Child_protection, too. But yes - well spotted again - Alison ^❤ 09:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Alison. If it weren't for you having so much experience with this sock (including data on him) and trusting me on these matters, I might have been declined by a clueless WP:CheckUser for lack of evidence when reporting this editor. As you may have deduced from the discussion on NeilN's talk page, that this user had something to do with the sexual aggression link made me even more sure that he was Beembly (talk · contribs). Despite my previous discussion with him about recognizing him/being significantly repulsed by people like him (now seen at User talk:Flyer22/Archive 18#Why banned users keep coming back, despite attempts to remove their incentives), he continues to directly or indirectly interact with me. Test me. I'm not always looking for him, or looking for him often, but I've been clear with him that when he creates articles like that, articles in those areas and which show that there is no way that they were created by a WP:Newbie, I will know it's him. Or suspect an editor of being him when I see that. Then again, testing me in that way is no different than other socks I continue to recognize. But with him, ignoring him is not an option for me. As for child protection, I see that you mean this discussion at Wikipedia talk:Child protection. Yes, as you know, the boywiki editors have pointed to that matter in a way that gives it a Flyer22 vs. Alison feel. Anyway, thanks again. I will look through the other accounts later to delete his material. In my opinion, per what he stated to me in the aforementioned archived discussion, any edit he makes to an article here (unless it's reverting vandalism or removing very problematic material) needs to be deleted. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 13:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Acalamari, I appreciate you helping out with IAJHTBAE (talk · contribs), who (unless it was one of my other disgruntled stalkers impersonating him) I assume is Tisane by the edit summary "Your side will eventually lose this fight", and since, as shown by the aforementioned archived discussion, he's stopped by my talk page to rant after I've uncovered his sock farm before. Then again, Cali11298, who I still see around, has done the same thing. But I am interested in knowing what Tisane stated. I didn't even notice that post on my talk page until I got a new message indicating that you'd reverted him. This is because I sometimes go right to an editing concern before looking at what was posted on my talk page. In this case, I went straight to a WP:ANI matter. ~~From what I see, what he posted on my talk page was there for hours, so it must not have been that bad.~~ Either way, nothing he stated could have been worse than what various other problematic editors have stated to me at this site. It also helps to use such problematic behavior against these editors. In the case of Tisane and others, the things they state/how they type helps me calculate their next moves and gives me further information to identify them in the future. So feel free to post what he stated here in this section, or email me the details if you can't bring yourself to repost it here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:05, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyer22 (or Flyer22 Reborn? Please let me know which you prefer), since it was Alison who revdelled the edit, I'll defer to her judgment with regards to your request so as to not accidentally overrule her admin action in any way. Acalamari 00:13, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Acalamari, yes, I just saw that, while you did the reverting and blocking, it was her who WP:Revision deleted it. I loved her edit summary: "(Deletion log); 23:35 . . Alison (talk | contribs) changed visibility of a revision on page User talk:Flyer22 Reborn: content hidden ‎(RD5: Other valid deletion under deletion policy: Apart from being a narcissistic screed)." LOL!! You can call me Flyer, or Flyer22, or Flyer22 Reborn; it's all relative. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:20, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Check your inbox, Flyer22 - Alison ^❤ 00:28, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[ WP:Edit conflict ]: I struck through part of my post above because I see that the sock's commentary hadn't been there for hours; it was left at 23:19, 2 November 2015‎; I'm not sure where I got "hours" from.

Okay, Alison. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:32, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have long been an admirer of Alison's creative edit summaries. :) Thanks for the clarification on your name; I wasn't sure what you preferred choice was. (And thank you again, Alison!) Acalamari 00:34, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've read the post thanks to Alison's email; there were no direct personal attacks there, just a lot of ranting about changing the world, how one can't change it unless stupid and persistent enough, how there have been political movements throughout history and that there will apparently eventually be a political movement that supports his side...even if not in his lifetime. In other words, it seems he thinks that sex with prepubescent children will eventually be the norm and well-accepted and/or that the age of consent laws will be significantly lowered. Given that age of consent laws allow sexual interaction with teenagers to some degree, it's clear that he is primarily talking about prepubescent children. He pointed to Rind et al., a study that pedophiles and child sexual abusers commonly point to in order to support their views, often in ways that Rind does not support. He likened this fight to one army against another, stating that we are nemeses because of our political views on child sexual abuse, but that neither of us can destroy the other or our respective sides. He also stated that, as I've acknowledged higher up on my talk page, I've gotten lazy at creating content, and he is creating material that I can't be bothered to create.

Sighs. Time to revert his remaining edits and/or delete any remaining articles he has (the ones I know he created and which fall under WP:G5, that is). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:05, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

	"High-Ranking Officer of the Wikipedia Sock Police"
	For your prowess in recognizing non-Newbies and defending the Wiki against their woolly and myriad deceptions, this very special officership to you, Flyer22 Reborn, in fuzzy gratitude Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 08:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Like Can I join the force? Montanabw^(talk) 17:24, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Per what I stated at the talk page of one of the articles this banned editor created, I will be taking the issue of whether or not to keep articles by this user to WP:AN or WP:ANI. And this user's statements on my talk page, including what he very recently stated to me (a statement reverted by Materialscientist and deleted from the edit history by Alison), will be used as evidence. When I do that, Alison, I'm going to need the posts by this editor visible to the community, not just to administrators. Either that, or I will repost them in a sandbox; again, this will only be done so that the community can read them at one of these noticeboards. WP:Deny alone does not work in the case of this editor. His latest post on my talk page was titled "I can't be deterred; I can only be temporarily incapacitated"; if that were the case, he would not feel the need to rant on my talk page after I obliterate his socks and work. Deleting his work does deter him. And temporarily incapacitating him is also good. Just imagine the frustration and/or anger that exploded in him when seeing that I'd gotten all of his articles (which were a lot, and are now memorized by me...title-wise) deleted, except the remaining three that I will be sure to continue pursuing deletion for as well. Also, every time he posts with a new account, it is an opportunity to report it in an official WP:Sockpuppet investigation and have that account checked for WP:Sleepers, whether the account is already blocked or not, and whether the account is immediately reported or the report is saved for later. Given the amount of socks this editor comes up with, saving the report for later is better; one can take out more socks that way. If we are going to have administrators restoring poor articles by this banned user, feeding his ego, then this is definitely something the community should have a say in. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:23, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit for Gh0st RAT

I thought Wikipedia should be free of typos like those and that is the reason I edited it and thought it could be constructive. I apologise if I have done anything wrong. Kaartic (talk) 08:16, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Kaartic (talk · contribs). You did nothing wrong. I am the one who messed up; sorry about that. I've reverted myself. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 08:47, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tweak

I want to wholeheartedly thank you for supporting the use of high quality evidence on health related topics, and I actually don't understand how those edits in August could be missed by so many. I guess people were busy and didn't understand the implication of removing every single mention of health in the guideline. Anyway, I tweaked one of your comments by adding {{od}} instead of 7 x : (or however many it was), I hope that is okay. CFCF 💌 📧 10:30, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PONY!

Pony!
Congratulations! For being a brave, noble and "High-ranking Officer of the Wikipedia Sock Police," you have received a pony! Ponies are cute, intelligent, cuddly, friendly (most of the time, though with notable exceptions), promote good will, encourage patience, and enjoy carrots. Treat your pony with respect and he will be your faithful friend! Montanabw^(talk) 17:29, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To send a pony or a treat to other wonderful and responsible editors, click here.

The barnstar in the #Socking / Tisane section above and this pony by you are appreciated. The name that sock bestowed upon me sticks, I suppose. But now I have yet another disgruntled sock to worry about. Again, I don't go looking for socks or other non-new return editors (who are probably returning under a WP:Clean start account); I spot them, and sometimes I ignore, while other times I don't. I always know who is not new, but I'm not always going to pursue it, especially being "reborn" and all. That stated, it can be very detrimental to this site to ignore a sock like Tisane. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:51, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's all OK, I got nuked in my RfA by everyone I've pissed off over nine years (and at least two banned socks showed up to oppose me) and I'm still standing. Illegitimi non carborundum. Montanabw^(talk) 03:04, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To answer your question

MyLifeidisosdoisdio (talk · contribs) and AnUnearthedTaylent (talk · contribs). I couldn't tell who the overall master is and it is, in my opinion, irrelevant. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:39, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Guerillero, thanks for answering that question. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:49, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy notice

Got busy looking at your awesome barnstars and stuff, and almost forgot to post my message! which is that there's a thread been opened about you at the main drama board, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Edit Wars with Flyer22 Reborn. Regards, -- Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 05:39, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mail call Nov. 5

Hello, Flyer22 Frozen. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:46, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple IP Addresses

I have said it before on here, but since you're acting like the Wiki police whenever I try to add something, and very recently blamed me when I didn't, I'll say it again; I am NOT using multiple I.P addresses, or Wiki accounts. I have no idea who any of the others are, or belong to. Moley87 (talk) 04:25, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Moley87 (talk · contribs), so soon after you made this edit and multiple IPs and this one-time editor showed up to make the same or a similar edit, and were reverted by various registered editors, it was all coincidences or an influx that started soon after your edit? Given that Clarke is very popular and that the birthday matter had been posted that day on instagram, it makes sense that it was an influx. So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. And, yes, I see that you replied in the #Hi section above. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:08, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Marvin Gaye

Didn't you read my explanation? I fixed a spelling error, how is that a disruptive edit? I don't have an account, I simply fix things I see. How can the correct spelling of his father's name, "Gay" be all over the site except in the one place it would be considered important? I hope this isn't considered "vandalism", just trying to get some clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.15.131 (talk) 00:53, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, looking via WP:STiki, I missed this edit summary. Sorry about that. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:04, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What I saw was this. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:05, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. As I said I am not a "user". I usually read articles in my spare time. I know enough to click on Edit if I see something, but usually all of the articles are well written and I know very little of what you folks do. Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.15.131 (talk) 01:12, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Soap Opera Couples

Hi,

Maybe I should explain my edits in detail. The articles in the "soap opera couples" category are categorized as "Fictional duos". While this is by no means an incorrect categorization it can be categorized more specific as "Television duos". After all, all the articles about soap opera couples are about television soap characters. Plus: we're always encouraged to subcategorize, if possible. - User:Kjell Knudde November 7, 2015, 10:09 (CET).

Kjell Knudde (talk · contribs), I reverted myself before you posted here. If you started typing your post soon after I reverted you, that's good, since you were willing to discuss this instead of WP:Edit warring over it. Instead of me taking it to your talk page, you brought it to mine. Either way, I created that category when I was a WP:Newbie and heavily focused on soap opera articles. I don't care much about it anymore. If it were deleted, I wouldn't bat an eye. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 09:15, 7 November 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

You are welcome. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 09:17, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would state a lot more about that, but it'd be more unnecessary drama, especially since Cebr1979 watches my talk page. Editors can check my history to know what is true and what isn't. For example, there was only one case where I stated that I'd let editors figure out the wolf in sheep's clothing on their own. Those who assert that I accuse just to intimidate either aren't paying attention or are editors with a vendetta. Of course, there are also the ones who are sympathetic to disruptive users. Such is the way on Wikipedia. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 09:30, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To define realistic existence of Public administration

Definition: Those all legal, authorised and Constitutional behaviour of elected or non elected people which related to maintain development, unity and integrity of people and nation could be known as "Public Administration" Q:how you can say this is not constructive?

Dheeresh Kumar Sharma (talk) 13:55, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dheeresh Kumar Sharma (talk · contribs), click on this link. See all of what you removed and what you replaced that with? That's not constructive editing. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 14:11, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy notice

I am just letting you know I have taken the initiative in helping us resolve our differences by posting a request for us to get some help from an in dependent third party at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard about the Domestic Violence article. Let's just try and work together on this article Flyer22reborn.Charlotte135 (talk) 02:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not interested. Even after I stated this, you are still acting like I have been against adding gender symmetry material to the article, when it's actually the case that I have been against it being added to the article inappropriately. And I'm not the only one, as even the WP:RfC there and that latest section show. You do not listen; it's like you've completely ignored any support I've given to gender symmetry material being added to the article. For example, how many times must I point you to the Discussion section at that talk page to show that you are wrong and that I am the first one to have suggested that 2008 review? Besides not listening, or not listening well, you twist my words/views. You act like I am some raging feminist taking a political stance. You don't seem to be trying to understand the WP:NPOV policy, and you consistently act like I am violating it and that I violate it across gender articles, as if you've seen me in action across Wikipedia. And you are wrong. It's always the editors who don't understand WP:NPOV who think I'm being non-neutral. And because I'd rather not engage you, it is not a good idea for you to visit my talk page. Notice that I do not visit yours. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:35, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see any truce I can have with you. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:39, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for inconvenience flyer 22 rebom posted to wrong dispute resolution noticeboard. Will ask to have it closed. Thanks.Charlotte135 (talk) 11:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)Looked at the drama. I think you are right, Flyer. At best this user is a tendentious editor, is engaging in false disbelief, and IMHO is more than likely the sort of editor who doesn't need feeding. If not a sock, then certainly a duck. Montanabw^(talk) 06:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC) Hi Montanab. Have you got any reason or evidence for this direct and blatant Wikipedia:No personal attacks you just made? Can comment on my talk page if you want? Charlotte135 (talk) 11:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]