Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 16
March 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 16, 2016.
Adumbration
- Adumbration → Foreshadowing (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"Foreshadowing" is really only a tertiary meaning of "adumbration." More frequently, it is used as a term that means "to give a description of something that includes general points about it, but no details." In fact, the OED defines the term as: "to outline; to sketch; [or] to give a faint indication of." Therefore, I think we should delete this potentially misleading redirect. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 23:39, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Weak retarget to wikt:adumbration. It gets a fair amount of hits (just north of 1/day), so it'd be better than nothing. -- Tavix (talk) 00:57, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Meghan Trainor filmography
- Meghan Trainor filmography → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No such list exists at the target. Readers looking for films which Meghan Trainor are going to find no information due to the lack of any information about the subject of the redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 21:58, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Romancing
Return the redirect to point back to romance, not onwards another redirect to an obscure song mentioned on an EP. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:21, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to romance per nom as a closely related word. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 23:41, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - "Romancing" was the first music video from the Will You Wait for Me EP by The Colourist. We can put a hat note on the EP article. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:36, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to Romance per nom. Clear historical WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Subjects, such as the title of the song at the redirect's target, are based on the "Romance" concept. Steel1943 (talk) 00:55, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to romance as the primary topic -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:00, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Sweet, Sweet Pie
- Sweet, Sweet Pie → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Sweet Sweet Pie → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Same rationale as Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 16#Redirects to Meghan Trainor - unnotable song redirects but apparently, these redirects' titles are misspelled. Apparently, these titles represent a song by the name "Sweet, Sweetie Pie" on I'll Sing With You, but are obviously erroneous names. For these two, I recommend they be deleted without any retargeting alternative. Steel1943 (talk) 21:02, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 21:25, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Redirects to Meghan Trainor - unnotable song redirects
- Back to My Home → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Broken Puzzle → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] =
- Hold on to the Ones You Love → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Leave a Kiss → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Love Me More → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Out the Door → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Shoowap Shoowah → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- When Did You Fall? → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Why'd You Have to Go? → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These {{R from song}} redirects are several titles of songs in WP:GNG/WP:NALBUMS-failing Meghan Trainor albums I'll Sing With You and Only 17. These songs are briefly named at Meghan Trainor discography#Independent albums, but they are only listed there as names of songs on the notability-failing albums. (These redirects are not mentioned at all in the Meghan Trainor article.) With that being said, I believe these should be deleted since confusion could exist that these songs redirect to a list of albums where their albums do not even have articles, or otherwise, weak retarget to Meghan Trainor discography#Independent albums. Steel1943 (talk) 20:42, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete these are all jamming up search engines, most of them with multiple possible subjects. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to Meghan Trainor discography#Independent albums – mentioned there. No other topics with the same names. sst✈ 05:29, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Singer Girl
- Singer Girl → Meghan Trainor (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The connection between the redirect and the redirect's target is unclear. Also, I attempted to see if this redirect is the title of a song or album by the redirect's target, and no such luck. Also, no page titled "Singer Girl" appears on the Meghan Trainor Wikia (meaning I essentially cannot find anything about "Singer Girl.) Steel1943 (talk) 20:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 21:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Regarget to Women in music where female singer leads to, and the meaning of "singer girl" -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:01, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, no obvious connection to Meghan Trainor, nor to any other topic. -- Tavix (talk) 04:23, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to Women in music. Plausible search term. sst✈ 05:31, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Juez judy
Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. Judge Judy has no affinity for the Spanish language. -- Tavix (talk) 19:31, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Steel1943 (talk) 19:34, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 21:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep many Spanish speaking users look for her as such. Give them a hand --Camilo Sánchez Talk to me 10:01, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Aaj Shahzaib Khanzada Kay Sath (Official Page)
- Aaj Shahzaib Khanzada Kay Sath (Official Page) → Aaj Shahzaib Khanzada Kay Sath (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Misleading - no WP page is an "official page". PamD 18:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Furthermore, it shows the user's purpose: he wants to create an official page for this individual on WP. The redirect target is up for speedy; hopefully that will take care of it. ubiquity (talk) 20:47, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:WEBHOST --Lenticel (talk) 07:29, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Compositorial
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was restored article. Since the merged content was removed from Composite number, the preferable action to declare the content in Compositorial unnecessary would be to nominate it for deletion as an article. That can be accomplished at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. For this reason, I believe that this speedy close is warranted. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 18:10, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Compositorial → Composite number#Compositorial (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Compositorials → Compositorial (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] (a double redirect)
The merge was completed as suggested by Kvng, but David Eppstein removed the section completely from the target article. 63.251.215.25 (talk) 17:43, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
Azadliq Statue
- Azadliq Statue → Statue of Liberty (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Freiheitsstatue → Statue of Liberty (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. The Statue of Liberty has no affinity with the German or Azerbaijani languages. -- Tavix (talk) 16:47, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
-cest
I'm not sure of the validity of this redirect. I think I understand what the creator is doing, but I do not think it's encyclopedic-worthy of a redirect. Izno (talk) 14:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete since this suffix doesn't directly represent the redirect's target ... that is, if it is even a real suffix used in the English language. I'm not finding any proof that this is even a suffix. Steel1943 (talk) 19:37, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete other -cest topics are not covered at the target -- 70.51.46.39 (talk)` —Preceding undated comment added 04:03, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Airbus Japan
Not mentioned in article. sst✈ 09:13, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Also exists, will be mentioned http://www.airbusjapan.com/contact-jp/ WhisperToMe (talk) 09:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Relisting comment: There's now mention of Airbus Japan at the target article. Is it enough?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 13:47, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per content In ictu oculi (talk) 21:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Billboard Korea
- Billboard Korea → Billboard (magazine) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in article. Also per precedents at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 December 29#Airfrance.ae. sst✈ 04:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- We can retarget it to "Korea K-Pop Hot 100" or mention the Korean version in the Billboard article. --Moscow Connection (talk) 05:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 13:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Or redirect to Billboard K-Town. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Billboard.biz
- Billboard.biz → Billboard (magazine) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in article. Also per precedents at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 December 29#Airfrance.ae. sst✈ 04:30, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. It was one of Billboard's official websites. It is linked from many articles because it was where you could search through many charts that weren't available on the main website (notable, the Japanese ones). Now the address redirects to http://www.billboard.com/biz. --Moscow Connection (talk) 05:28, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 13:43, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. Most obvious target if someone happens to search for it by URL. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Title (album)
- Title (album) → Title (disambiguation) (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Looking at Talk:Title (Meghan Trainor album)#Requested move, should this be retargeted to Title (publishing)? sst✈ 11:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Why? In ictu oculi (talk) 11:37, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Some commentators at the discussion expressed that Title (album) may be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Title (publishing). sst✈ 11:41, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Well then Keep plus there is Title (Straightener album) mentioned on dab. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Some commentators at the discussion expressed that Title (album) may be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Title (publishing). sst✈ 11:41, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Move Title (Meghan Trainor album) over the redirect, as primary topic and the only notable album named Title. A hatnote would still be appropriate. The more pertinent Album title already redirects to Title (publishing). --BDD (talk) 13:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Strong oppose "Meghan Trainor" the topic of "title" in relation to the topic area of "album" is the title of an album (ie. album title) which is not a Meghan Trainor album, but the title of any album. In addition to that, there is legal title to an album (ie. ownership). This alternate proposal would use ambiguous disambiguation for the Trainor album making it a failure of WP:PRECISE; and as pointed out above, there's multiple albums named "Title" as well -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:05, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. Given the possible ambiguity, the current setup make sense. Also, moving Title (Meghan Trainor album) to Title (album) is problematic for two reasons: 1) The subject of the title of an album is explained at Title (publishing), so moving an article of an album with the name "Title" is the equivalent of expecting all readers to have an native understanding of Wikipedia:Naming conventions, and 2) "Title (album)" could also refer to Title (EP), a separate article from the Meghan Trainor album article (and even more confusing is that the EP is also a Meghan Trainor subject.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Parent, Ontario
- Parent, Ontario → Thunder Bay District (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There is no mention of the name "Parent" in the target article. I could find no such place via Google, though it might have been obscured by the many web pages about Ontario mothers, fathers, etc. Cnilep (talk) 05:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Upon further search, I did find this, but it gives very little information. Cnilep (talk) 06:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- It's listed at List_of_townships_in_Ontario#Thunder_Bay_District, so a redirect seems reasonable. I don't suspect the township is sufficient enough to have it's own article, but either reidrecting to the district, or the list of townships makes sense.--kelapstick(bainuu) 07:13, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to Unorganized Thunder Bay District. It seems to be a former/historic(/geographic, I don't know what that means) township in the unorganized part of the district. There is a Parent Lake in the unorganized part of the district, close to Geraldton, Ontario, which is the best I can find of things this could refer to, and this memo from the Ontario government referring to the closure of a waste disposal site in "Parent Unorganized Township" close to Geraldton seems to back that up. Although it's not really significant or mentioned anywhere so it wouldn't be awful to delete this either. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:50, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Statute of Liberty
- Statute of Liberty → Statue of Liberty (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
A statue is not a statute. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 05:04, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as it could cause confusion, otherwise I'd suggest bill of rights. -- Tavix (talk) 05:11, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- I'm also okay with NCFF's suggestion. -- Tavix (talk) 04:07, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. Likely typo. sst✈ 11:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have added a template to the redirect. This should be sufficient to prevent confusion. sst✈ 14:11, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to Geoffrey Robertson, who wrote a book called Statute of Liberty (it's listed in his Wikipedia article). For more info on the book, see this summary by Random House. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 23:46, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- A reasonable idea, definitely preferable to a keep.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 06:40, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep or disambiguate it is a typo, and a likely one. However, other uses (ie. actual statutes) can turn this into a disambiguation page with a see also to Lady Liberty NYC -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:12, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
GradeAUnderA
- GradeAUnderA → List of YouTubers (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not included in List of YouTubers, hence there isn't any information about the subject there. A local search yielded no results on the subject either. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 05:02, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Not mentioned in article, readers looking for the topic would find nothing at the target. sst✈ 11:28, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Bigy
Could equally refer to Big Y (https://www.bigy.com) along with a few other things from a quick search. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 04:32, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Retarget to Big Y and add a hatnote to Biggy Smalls -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY. It's equally a typo for Big Y and Biggy, so the redirect is more trouble than it's worth. -- Tavix (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Russian propaganda
- Russian propaganda → Propaganda#Russia (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unnecessary redirects combining with mendacious interwiki from the Ukrainian segment. I propose deleting them В.Галушко (talk) 14:57, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep plausible search term. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 23:44, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Keep. I'm not sure how this is mandacious; it looks like a valid search term to me.-- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:30, 10 March 2016 (UTC)Keep. Useful, can't see how this is problematic. sst✈ 12:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)- Keep as plausible variant --Lenticel (talk) 00:34, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: I closed this, but undid it as I'd like for this discussion to stay open another week. At first glance, it's an obvious keep, but the target in the nomination was incorrect. It's not targeting "Propaganda in Russia" but actually pointing to "Propaganda#Russia," and that section doesn't currently exist. In fact there's zero information about modern Russia in the prose of the article. Because of this, I don't think it'd be helpful to keep it like it is. There's a few things we can do to mitigate that problem. The first option is to restore the previous article that existed at this title and clean it up. I'm assuming the former article is the "mendacious" thing the nom is referring to, but I think there's enough there to have a start-class article once the POV is removed/cleaned-up, but I'm not entirely sure. Another option is to retarget to Propaganda in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was fairly commonly referred to as "Russia" in a colloquial sense, so it's not completely crazy of an idea, especially with how detailed that article is. Lastly, of course, is a WP:REDLINK deletion to encourage a proper article to develop. Thoughts? -- Tavix (talk) 04:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 04:30, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Comment redirect Propaganda in Russia goes to the same target -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- REVERT the conversion of Russian propaganda (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) into a redirect, as it was a fake deletion by turning it into a redirect without merger to a non-existent section. That is clearly inappropriate. If the editor wanted to delete the article, it should have been sent to AfD instead of hiding the deletion by converting it to a redirect -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:35, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Wow. Revert WP:BLAR per 70.51. Clearly notable topic. sst✈ 11:38, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Revert to version prior to blanking. Mea culpa for not looking at this article's edit history before voting. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 23:55, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Revert to this edit per WP:BLAR as above.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 02:24, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Polish electios
- Polish electios → Elections in Poland (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Polish elections is reasonable, "Polish electios" isn't, assuming "electios" is not polish for "election". —Godsy(TALKCONT) 04:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. If this was plausible, I would image that you'd find usage of it somewhere in the "wild." A Google search for "Polish electios" turned up exactly one result: this redirect. -- Tavix (talk) 05:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep {{R from typo}} typo by omission of a single letter, "n" -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:37, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Just stops autocomplete working properly. --Richhoncho (talk) 11:32, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 21:28, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Neurodiversiry and Panrthera
- Neurodiversiry → Neurodiversity (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Panrthera → Panthera (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] —Godsy(TALKCONT) 04:22, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Delete per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 3#Mexicp. Qwerty keyboard location typos based on the letter "r" being directly to the left of the letter "t" (at least the first one). —Godsy(TALKCONT) 04:22, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Panrthera, I can't imagine how somerone can justifry the random insertiorn of an "r" in that worrd. That makes no sense whatsorever. Also delete Neurodiversiry, another "novel or very obscure" typo. -- Tavix (talk) 05:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Rock Obama
- Rock Obama → Barack Obama (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 3#Back Obama. Implausible. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 02:15, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and WP:XY, believe it or not. "The Rock Obama" is a fairly significant character that Dwayne Johnson portrays on Saturday Night Live (video). I'd probably support creating the actual title, if there was a good place for it. It's briefly mentioned at Dwayne Johnson and at Saturday Night Live (season 35) (although that mention wasn't the first or last time he portrayed that character). Also "Sir Rock Obama" was a nickname P. Diddy briefly used (sound clip). I honestly can't see it as a misspelling for Barack Obama, it's simply too far of a stretch. -- Tavix (talk) 04:49, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per Tavix who points out the confusion of this redirect.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:58, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Tamagotchi Secret Characters
- Tamagotchi Secret Characters → Tamagotchi (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Besides the word "secret" being vague, no such information exists at the target. Steel1943 (talk) 02:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:CHEAP, ten year old harmless redirect. MB298 (talk) 02:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- I'd say the fact that the information in the redirect's title is not present in its target article is quite harmful since it misleads readers into thinking they will find information about this subject at the target article. Being old doesn't cancel out a redirect's misleading nature. Steel1943 (talk) 02:54, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as misleading. Despite what the redirect says, you won't find any information on "secret characters" at the target article. -- Tavix (talk) 04:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom , misleading In ictu oculi (talk) 21:28, 16 March 2016 (UTC)