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Q1: Why is this article about the People's Republic of China?
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The Russian ruble is accepted as valid tender in Suifenhe, China
Chinese government allows to use both the Russian ruble and the yuan, in Suifenhe, China as a legal tender. It is the first time in the history of PRC when the usage of a foreign currency as a payment for goods and services is allowed on its territory. I suggest to add the Russian ruble to the list of currencies along with the yuan in the same fashion as it's done for Panama and US dollar, but with a footnote that its usage is only allowed in a certain region. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.52.141.26 (talk • contribs) 11:24, November 26, 2014
both nominal total GDP and purchasing power parity
China is number one by both nominal total GDP and purchasing power parity not number two. Please edit ????. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swax2 (talk • contribs) 16:44, December 19, 2014
Edit Proposal
Hello Wikipedians! I am a student at Rice University, and I am thinking about editing this article as part of my class (Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities). I am currently interested in learning about political repression in China and adding what I learn into Wikipedia articles. I would like to contribute to this page by adding information to the subsection "Sociopolitical issues, human rights, and reform" under Politics. I would add a link to the "Censorship in China" article, flesh out information about how China has treated its political activists (such as Liu Xiaobo), and add how citizens have been going around China's different forms of censorship. I have already been doing some reading, and a list of relevant resources are on my user page if you are interested! Please let me know if you have any suggestions about the direction I should take this! RiceStudent (talk) 12:45, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- Maybe you can learn about how some factory-owners treat workers and break the labor law (even the CHINESE labor law!). The unionist may suffered more than other activists nowadays.wkbreaker 14:25, September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkbreaker (talk • contribs)
Etymology
The etymology section has recently been revised to stress the theory that the word China is derived from “Qin,” the name of the first imperial dynasty. Although this theory is certainly popular, it is refuted by the fact that Sanskrit usage predates the Qin dynasty by several centuries. The theory dates to the 17th century, before the development of modern philology. It apparently falls into the category of “too good to check.” Oxford English Dictionary, the most authoritative source on these matters, traces the derivation to Sanskrit Cīna, a word that has been used to refer to China since at least the second century AD. For earlier history, it directs us to a journal article by Lecoupiere. Lecoupiere rejects the Qin theory and argues that usage in the Indian epics refers to a state other than China. That is to say, the word was repurposed sometime after the Indians began to receive silk from China and wondered what land it came from. See Geoff Wade’s “The name China and the Polity of Yelang” for a detailed and up to date discussion of this issue. Great scott (talk) 05:15, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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Please change
" Under Xi, the Chinese government began large-scale efforts to reform its economy,[128][129] which has suffered from structural instabilities and slowing growth.[130][131][132][133]"
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" Under Xi, the Chinese government began large-scale efforts to reform its economy,[128][129] which has suffered from structural instabilities and relatively slowing growth.[130][131][132][133]".
Reason: China's economic growth rate still considerable compared with other others' which is why I propose to add the word "relatively". 106.185.25.41 (talk) 09:53, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
- Not done. What you have proposed is neither good English nor clear what it means; "relatively" needs some indication of what it is relative to. The article already covers the country’s high economic growth, both in that section and in the Economy section, so it does not need restating in such a way.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 03:06, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Caption for image in section 4.4 - Foreign Relations
There's an image in section 4.4 simply captioned "Diplomatic relations with China" that is color coded. I would like to request that the caption is updated with a key to represent what each color means. Because this page is protected, I am unable to do so. The file itself has a key, it's just not listed in the caption. Here is a link to the image in question. 24.207.148.200 (talk) 20:21, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out. I'll take a look at it. Codyorb (talk) 02:38, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Founding date
Well, that was odd. It's a common misconception that the PRC dates to 1 Oct. since that became the basis for the country's National Day but the new state was actually proclaimed a few days earlier on 21 Sept., which occasionally gets remembered (at embassy shindigs &c) as "Chinese Independence Day". What's strange is that the source for 1 Oct. in the current page already made it clear that the date was 21 Sept. I know this is a highly-trafficked page and no urge to get into an edit war, so added two further sources as well. — LlywelynII 04:01, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
- Super edit! Such a pleasure to see a popularly held misconception debunked. sirlanz 05:12, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
I think "An estimated 200,000 Chinese were massacred in the city of Nanjing alone during the Japanese occupation.[103] " ,it should be 300,000, and "China hosted the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, where its athletes received 51 gold medals " already cha
I think "An estimated 200,000 Chinese were massacred in the city of Nanjing alone during the Japanese occupation.[103] " ,it should be 300,000, and "China hosted the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, where its athletes received 51 gold medals " already change for 48. (I come from China) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.100.83.109 (talk) 08:33, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Timeline
The timeline in the Territorial disputes section has a number of problems. It is far too wide for the page; at a normal width it disappears off the right edge of the screen. Even at this width it barely fits; the text has been made smaller to take up less space but that just makes it less readable, especially against the strongly coloured backgrounds.
Mostly though it assigns too much weight to one particular territorial dispute, the one with Taiwan. In fact almost all of the timeline does not concern this; the bulk of it on the Ming, Qing, Dutch and Spanish has no bearing on the modern dispute, which started in 1949. The only bit really concerning it is the rightmost end of the second row, as it covers the period from 1949, when Taiwan has been in dispute. And even that does not illustrate the status of Taiwan, it simply says Taiwan exists.
Removing everything before 1949 would eliminate the irrelevant periods, and make it fit properly. But that would reduce it to just one time period, and rather pointless as a timeline. If that is the only way to fix it then it makes no sense in the article, and should be removed, which is what I propose, unless someone can find some way of fixing it.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 13:10, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
I think the timeline should be deleted, or using a more details one:
--Lisan1233 (talk) 05:30, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
- That is far worse. It fixes none of the problems I raised, just makes it much bigger. The new lines make it look like there are three or four territorial disputes, not one. The only people likely to understand what the different lines represent are people already familiar with the detailed history of cross-straight relations. To the average reader it is just a confusing waste of space, and puts far too much emphasis on one particular territorial dispute.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 13:41, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
There have been no good proposals how to fix it so I have removed it. The section is on current territorial disputes, not the last 200 years of China–Taiwan relations. It’s not that the timeline is wrong and can be fixed, a timeline is simply inappropriate for a section on current territorial disputes, of which the one with Taiwan is only one of them.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 04:55, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Sockpuppet investigation involving Wrestlingring and Supreme Dragon
A case involving User:Wrestlingring and User:Supreme Dragon has been filed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wrestlingring. They were heavily involved in China/Taiwan articles, especially regarding the naming dispute. Your input may assist with the case. Cheers! --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 18:51, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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China and its motivation to keep up to the US-Dollar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtJ3JonFWew — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.230.4.167 (talk) 22:55, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Music and Justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTtcdPn40EU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.230.4.167 (talk) 23:00, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Largest City
Shanghai's population is 24 256 800, but Chongqing's population is 30 165 500. Chongqing is larger than Shanghai. (source: List of largest cities)--Make WP Great Again (talk) 07:05, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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